Why do people hate 3rd gen Camaro's

>with kids i really need another 3 row
Fucking Americans. Normal children fit into Camaro back seats. Groceries fit into its trunk. You need nothing more than a Camaro unless you have a specific need to carry very large items on a regular basis.

Since you don't know how to properly use your Camaros, just ship them all over here where they'll find better use.

If you park one wheel on the curb you wont be able to shut the door

i dont like the completely vertical steering wheel

governors that raped those 5 to 6 liter engines and limited them to around 180 hp

This is why

youtube.com/watch?v=ASoqnSa1uRE

3300 lbs w/ a iron block v8.
heavy.

..........i'm sorry, what?

what

ugly - impossible to gauge today(were popular at the time)
heavy - just plain false.
slow - mid 14 seconds in the 1/4 mile. not too slow, but not fast either.
bad build quality - depends on what we're talking about. L98 is solid, tranny was always shit, rear end is hit or miss.
horrible interior - subjective.
bad reputation - according to?

i dont like it. thats all.

>3300 lbs
>1982
>best engine made less than 200 HP for over a decade

what the fuck is a "completely vertical" steering wheel

Mustangs of the time could be under 3,000 lbs with an iron block V8

neither one made shit for power so the Camaro is even worse

things are garbage

meaning it is 90 degrees from the floor of the car

if you wanted lightweight you would look for a chevy monza

Because it's not a Firebird

>Did all of 30 laps before retiring

which is objectively worse by every measure

if I wanted lightweight (or a good car) during that time I would not look at any American car

i said light, not reliable.

swap the intake and you have one hell of a car.

Intake+cam+heads and you're on par with a ws6

>just a few simple mods

It's a 305 don't pretend you couldn't do all that or even a fucking 350 swap in a parking lot

>not getting a 350 to start with
305 ain't even worth pissing on

doesnt matter

spending thousands to make meh performance from a 305 would be stupid

even a stock 350 is going to be slow

Maybe a stock 350tpi would be slow but any decent crate 350 would be pushing 320hp right out of the box

wrong since crate engines use gross hp (at least GM does)

so youre spending thousands to make 200 some horsepower

even then 320 is slow in this day and age

>thousands

Try $1400 for a 350/400 HP rebuild

>stock
Why would you swap in a stock 350

Maybe he has 3 kids dumbass

[citation needed]

because I call complete bullshit

Fine. Assuming you're dumb enough to start with a 305, throw in a random 350 for $500 and an afternoon, swap out the shitty intake, cam, headers, exhaust and you're down MAYBE 8k, including the cost of the car.

so yeah

spending thousands for unimpressive results

Dude, people practically throw away built 350s all the time.
You can't got to a single swap meet without stumbling over some built 350 for next to nothing.

superchevy.com/how-to/project-cars/sucp-0910-chevy-350-engine-build/
These guys did it for a grand, including the cost of the engine

>400hp
>8k
>unimpressive

>t.foreveralone

Car seats and boosters don't work very well with 3rd/4th gen back seats because of the way the bottom of the seats are shaped. Not to mention the need to be a contortionist to place and extract your children from back seat in said Camaro.

But you have a lot of first had experience with having kids or 3rd/4th gen f-bodies, obviously.

400hp isn't unimpressive you stupid fuck. And if "thousands" are too much you shouldn't be owning a car in the first place.

>junkyard 350 for anywhere between $0-$400
>nab whatever other bits you can find while there
>machining work for a couple hundred
>cams
>head for 400
>MAYBE another couple hundred for a good carb if you didn't find one in the junkyard
>no swap kit because it bolts right the fuck in
>tune it yourself because you went carbed like a fucking man
>walk away with at least 350HP and innate knowledge of the vehicle you put together yourself and take a bath in the money you didn't spend

Cry more

Oh right I forgot built racecars go for 4k these days

>not nigger rigging a booster seat into each t-top

yeah and I know most of them dont make 400hp either lol

not a citation either

>400 gross hp

wow its fucking nothing

probably makes like 240-250 to the wheels and maybe 300 net

I could make 400+whp for less than $1000 on my 4 banger

if you spend that much money you better be making a lot more than 400

LMFAO

in no world is 400hp impressive from a goddamn 5.7L V8

its embarrassing if anything

thought these things were supposed to be good

My dad and I rebuilt one for essentially free. We bought a peice of garbage one for a few hundred bucks, then bought 3 or 4 more for a couple hundred bucks(not at the same time and these ones were complete shit) and we stripped all the usable parts of the really bad ones, recycled the body for the same price we bought the cars for, used all the parts we could, kept some in case we might need them, sold a lot of parts on Craigslist/eBay. Used all that money to pay for a new paint job, reupholstered the seats, and bought an I-ROC 350(ours had a 305)

>just ship them all over here where they'll find better use
In a garage due to the stupidly high gasoline prices?

so you still end up with a slow car that you spent thousands on

cool

pretty much lost any respect I had for the sbc itt

All-lowercase-no-punctuation guy is a baitposter. You don't have to reply.

HP/$, not HP/lb is the point of a 350 you idiot

But sure let's see that 400hp 4pot of yours

>I could make 400+whp for less than $1000 on my 4 banger
Yeah for 20 seconds and then your eBay turbo blows the engine up. A 350 wouldn't even flinch at 400hp

>$1400
>thousands
Slow by exactly what metric Mr.400HP Is Nothing?

Veeky Forums has some fucking retards in here

yeah but its not even impressive

pretty much every 4 banger Honda does a better job

even Ford is better for the budget

nope

it even held up to a 75 shot of nitrous for a while before blowing after being ran at 440whp on junkyard parts for a couple years

>not buying a 2JZGTE for $800 that can make 500 with just nitrous and fuel upgrade

Its 2017

400 gross hp means shit

not impressed by a 300hp engine that took over $1,000 to put together in the year of 2017

sure maybe it was cool up to the 90s but now?

nah

>in no world is 400hp impressive from a goddamn 5.7L V8
You're right it isn't. A 350 can make 600+hp NA. Add boost and you're heading for the thousands

The 350 may be a boat anchor, but the 2JZ is a yacht anchor.

this
pushcucks itt defending their shit engines, lmao

Yet there are no 350 chevys running the quarter in 5 seconds

Holy shit dude, 75 shot! That's badass! Vroom vroom very fast haha!

5 seconds is also fucking ridiculously fast and requires a vehicle built solely for the strip. Kinda irrelevant to street rods. And another point, the 2JZ isn't a bolt-in for the third Gen f bodies.

yeah at least 600hp is nice

but damn people make over 300whp with NA Hondas displacing only 2.x liters and well over 1000whp with boost too

these things just arent that great in this day and age

because somehow 400 gross hp is impressive from a 5.7L but over 500whp (and probably 600 lb ft of torque) from a 2.2 isnt

>over $1,000
Lmao stay poor

Yes, modern technology had made huge leaps and bounds, but over 300whp in a low 3x00 lb car is still a lot of fun, and since people who are building third gens are actually going to be out driving them and enjoying them, I don't think they'll care about muh hp/l benchracing.

so basically the point of the SBC is to please poor people

but if people dont like them they are poor

makes sense

doesnt seem like they are doing shit but getting mad at how awful their engines are

80hp in a Daihatsu can be fun too fun is meaningless its a buzzword

>Hondas displacing only 2.x liters and well over 1000whp with boost too

AT
WHAT
COST

>fun is meaningless its a buzzword
>literally /v/ tier logic

I forgot the point of a project was to jack off to the dyno sheet, thanks for reminding me I almost had fun today

If a grand for a built engine is somehow too much, then yes, you are extremely poor and shouldn't be driving

>fun is a buzzword
Wrap it up boys we're done here

It only cost me 75 cents

dont know
go ask someone that builds them

yup

heres the losers that cant defend something

when you cant think of a single reason why something is good its what you say

LOL ITS FUN SO ITS GUD

its elementary school logic at its finest

its not even a built engine though\

its a slow anchor with bolt ons that makes shit power for its size and the price youre paying

when even Hondas BTFO you on value youre doing something wrong

>when even Hondas BTFO you on value

Read the sticky, it'll make you go real fast for cheap. Pretty easy and cheap for an ls swap. Also the car has beautiful taillights and girls will love it's retro look if it's kept in great condition.

because ARP headstuds, ebay turbo kit, slicks, and fuel pump are like all you need to run 12s

every girl I know thinks these cars are ugly as fuck

>every girl I know thinks these cars are ugly as fuck
You would be chatting up handicapped girls, wouldn't you

>just a few simple mods

nah

just girls who arent my white trash relatives or blind

yup

because thats all it takes

real world results

not 400 gross hp on a stand

glad I grew out of Amerishit cars

bet they think your 20 year old honda is real nice lmao

most girls like Hondas
plenty of Honda enthusiasts are girls

sooo yeah?

>400 gross hp
Uh huh

>ebay turbo kit
jesus christ everytime you post you look more dumb
>or just good bait

>every trap I've asked while getting butt fucked thought they were redneck cars

>plenty of Honda enthusiasts are girls

You don't know but you swear up and down its better and more powerful for the money. Top kek.

>cam and head are bolt ons
Confirmed retard

You don't know a goddamn thing you're talking about

not my fault you guys dont know shit

all motor is just an expensive way to go slow

I have met a total of 2 women in my life who like turd gens

both were 40+ years old and smoked heavily and one even owned one

perfect match for that trashbox but still

you literally bolt heads on you dip shit

a cam doesnt make it built either

the irony of your fucking post lmao

>buying cars because of what women think of them
>ever

Stop chasing pussy and dyno numbers you chuckle fuck, buy and build what interests you, not some walking cocksleeve

its funny because Im not the one who brought it up it was you Camarofags

and you are also the ones posting dynos and talking about hp constantly when I gave real world results

gee user

how much of a hypocrite can you be

Im not saying you cant like shit but Im going to make fun of you for it

>all motor is just an expensive way to go slow
Okay genius guess what'd happen if you hooked up an eBay turbo to a 350?

depends

given the shitty everything on a stock 350 it would still be garbage I bet

hotrod.com/articles/can-buy-small-block-turbo-kit-699-work/
Wrong. With a stock 350 these guys made 650 hp

once magazines get some real world power I will be impressed

dont care about engine stands

still not bone stock either

Don't forget swapping out the electronic carburetor.

The bone stock 350 in my 70 Camino made 300hp new. A motor is more than its displacement.

So many motors and parts on Craigslist... if you know what you're doing, you can build a hot sbc pretty cheap.

tpi is shit but the biggest problem with it is the intake because it was designed for the 305