Reposting because nobody could beat it last time.
Name ONE car with 200hp or more that's lighter than the SW20 MR2 Turbo (2750 lbs).
Hardmode; no fwd
Reposting because nobody could beat it last time.
Name ONE car with 200hp or more that's lighter than the SW20 MR2 Turbo (2750 lbs).
Hardmode; no fwd
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Any supercharged Lotus Elise.
Fitting, considering an MR2 is just a poor mans Lotus.
Mr2 is king
I just found out today that there's a convertible SW20.
Pic related, yeah it's all factory.
This is pushing it, admittedly, but you can get a stripped-out GT86 in Japan (called the RC). 205HP and 2650-ish pounds.
1987 Porsche 944 Turbo
WINRAR
Too bad the usdm doesn't get to see cool stuff
What shit is that stripped model missing?
First generation mustang with a HiPo Windsor V-8
>210 hp
>2445 curb weight
>rwd
niiiiiiiiigaaaaaaaaa
I was gonna bring up the 'ol 944 -- but only the NA models are that lightweight. Turbos push anywhere from 2900-3100lbs stock. Super easy to strip down though.
wasn't sure when i read your thing, but yeah doesn't look bad at all. hows it look top up?
I always liked the looks of a 944. Too bad it would probably shit the bed if I tried to DD one.
It's straight up a Porche
Ford would make me so happy if they went back to making the Mustang small, like they did with the original and the Foxbody.
Big engines in small cars > big engines in big cars
>2750lbs
holy fuck that is fat. just boost a miata
No radio, no passenger airbag, not sure if it has aircon, no infotainment. It's literally sold as a car they expect you to mod the shit out of, it's even on steelies.
Paint, for one.
>implying 1250kg is light
oi vei
2855lbs.
>52 more hp.
>much nicer
>badgewhores like it
GC8 WRX and WRX STis were around 2600-2800lbs.
Also seven times more expensive
;-)
A GC8 with a turbo is seriously my dream car. Pretty much the only lightweight awd cars ever.
BBR NA MX5
220hp
maybe 2200lbs at worst
60k mile warranty
>seven times more expensive
closer to only twice as much, really.
a decent mr2 turbo isn't a cheap car either
Steelies ;)
s2000 CR
They didn't even paint the fascias in the toyota version
if you will forgive 100 lbs ~
neon srt4 WHP/WTQ 245
I can't find anywhere that says an SW20 Turbo is 2750 lbs. Must be a super rare hardtop model? The T-top turbo is 2888 lbs according to some sources.
Pic of one on a scale?
Because I was going to bring up the Boxster too. Stick with early model base cars to keep the weight low.
1997 Porsche Boxster
Luxury vehicle
4.2/5 · Cars.com
Horsepower: 201 hp
Engine: 2.5 L 6-cylinder
Curb weight: 2,756 lbs
MPG: 19 city / 27 highway
Dimensions: 170″ L x 70″ W x 51″ H
Fuel tank capacity: 15 gal
>
>205hp
>to the crank
still only 170whp
Also maybe not relevant to those in the US, but I'm sure a 1991 Nissan Silvia K's is similar weight and power as the SW20 turbo.
As if drivetrain losses don't apply to MR2s.
mr2 turbo can easily reach 290whp on stock turbo,ecu,injectors, provided you also go with 3 inch turbo back and get a larger intercooler.
see
your mums sweaty snatch
You can do that with most factory turbo cars. I thought we were talking stock here. Because guess what... You can remove weight from both cars too. And for free, even. Which would make this whole argument irrelevant.
S13 Silvia
>500lbs lighter and over 1000hp more than the mr2
introducing the worlds fastest production car
modified car*
2,688lbs, 210hp
There's at least 50 different make/models from the early 60s that meet this criteria
>Curb weight: 2,376 lb (1,078 kg)
>Power Output: 406 bhp (303 kW; 412 PS) at 7000 rpm
>Torque Output: 349 lb·ft (473 N·m) at 4500 rpm
>s13
The chassis is floppier than your moms vagoo.
yea... "gross" horsepower maybe. Dyno one of those.
Torana SLR5000
2608 pounds
240 hp
>playing easy mode
mustangandfords.com
Not sure why you think 210hp out of a 5l with 10.25:1 compression and a 600cfm carb would be difficult to attain, if anything the 1964 K code was underrated and the 1965 (the one dyno'd in the link) was accurate in it's claim
>Curb weight: 1,100 kg (2,425 lb)
>4.0L Mk1: 360 bhp (268 kW), 310 lb·ft (420 N·m)
>4.2L Mk2 T440R (2003): 440 bhp (328 kW) @7600 rpm, 475 N·m (350 lb·ft) @/6000 rpm
>Curb weight: 1,100 kg (2,425 lb) (Speed Eight)
>1,060 kg (2,337 lb) (4.5 Lightweight)
>...a 4.2 L V8 producing 360 horsepower (268 kW) and gave the Cerbera a top speed of 185 mph (297 km/h). A 4.5 litre version of the engine was later offered with 420 horsepower (310 kW).
Thanks for proving my point. Testing an engine on an engine dyno with no accessories and an electric water pump. Perfect definition of "gross" hp.
I can rely on the SW20 to actually work, though
>proving your point
>in disbelief that it could make 210hp
>makes 270hp
>moving the goalposts
270 gross hp.
>still doesn't know the difference.
If playing easy mode, an rsx type s has 200hp and weighs about 2700
I did last time motherfucker
>Subaru BRZ
>2600lbs
>205-210 horsepower
Floppy compared to modern cars, but will take a 400hp motor through the drive train and still drive with good dynamics.
the GT-Four is about 2600 pounds iirc and makes around 250 hp
never mind, just looked it up and it weighs just over 3000 pounds. Disregard my post
So far the only USDM wins are;
1997 Boxter
>expensive and unreliable
(inb4 "muh german engineering")
RSX Type-S
>easy mode
FRS is 27xx
BRZ is 28xx
Still close enough to be a win
>Spider
unicorns m8
S2K comes pretty close weight wise.
>2800lbs
>~250hp
Also, RSX type S, NSX-R
>water pumps parasitically draw 70hp
>the MR2 horsepower is measured at the wheels
>so far the only wins are x and x, if you ignore at least 50 other cars already mentioned
Cars need to be USDM and stock. Should have clarified I guess?
elise or built 2zz mrs.
Only thing that can defeat a mr2 is an mr2 + tune
s2000
only because it's awd. if it was rwd it would be the right weight.
Does anyone know if the first generation mr2 came with a hard top? No moon roof, no t-top, just metal.
Yes 85 models made before June will be hardtop only.
Z3 M roadsters are
Ford Sierra Cosworth
Alfa Stratos
Oops meant lancia
227hp, 2690 pounds, awd: Nissan Pulsar GTI-R
GOAT
>gross
It was common for alot of engines to be advertised with less power
And 200 hp with a 5l v8 is pretty low
>Boxster
>USDM
jej.
>expensive
>unreliable
Stop being a poorfag who neglects maintenance.
fd rx7
fc comes close
both can be stripped down a significant amount as well
In order of appearance
>Porche Boxster
>Acura RSX Type-S
>Scion FRS
>Honda s2000
>Mazda rx7 FD
>Toyota wins again
any of the first 3 lancer evos, no problems
>fc comes close
FC type RZ is less than 2750lbs according to wikipedia
Lotus 3-11 410 hp and 925kg (2040lb) in road trim
Arent the gearboxes in these made of glass?
Elise SC
218bhp
2000lbs
RX8 Type S.
234 bhp.
1.300 kg.
>Opel Speedster Turbo
What did I won?
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