are we done yet? Can I start Doters discussion yet
Austin Perry
finally
Thomas Kelly
Let's continue talking about my boy Carl, the Invoker
Justin Thomas
small dump because autism lost
Cameron Collins
>He doesn't buy atos on underlord >He needs a quelling blade to out cs a ranged hero >He has more than one point in passive before level 3 and doesn't max rain first
Alexander Hill
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Xavier Diaz
>atos on underlord why?
Jose Cooper
Daily reminder urn is a fantastic CK item even if you aren't support. Actually I'd say urn is one of the most underrated items in the game.
Oliver Watson
What else would you buy on Underlord really?
Michael Lee
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Thomas Ross
so Pit can proc twice giving you ample time to follow up with a buddy dropping a fat nuke
do you not look at numbers?
Evan Cruz
You're the reason these threads are deleted
Caleb Clark
>Latest patch: store.steampowered.com/news/28266/ >* Improved server region auto detection >Didn't fix server preferences being saved, just "improved" it instead Shit they really mean to leave it like that, huh? Why the fuck?
Ayden Rodriguez
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Isaiah Brooks
Health, Mana, long ranged linkens popper, oh and it's primary use of catching someone in pit, atos them after duration, and pit will reapply leading to a full duration rain.
That and atos absolutely fucking shits on the majority of the cancer picks this patch. It's utility is fucking amazing and the CD is surprisingly short.
Mason Sanders
Having Dota discussions? I was not avatarfaggin, fyi
Jeremiah Barnes
>wrapping up nyahoo posters with your generic anime avatarfags kisama dotard
Kayden Nelson
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Isaiah Taylor
but the same is achieved by the not 20 int+ wasted stat 3k item, so is it really core? actually, his passive is one of his better skills and that where the nerf hits the hardest, but can always go for more than 1 point even at l3
Jordan Perry
huh, neat if i ever play underlord ill go atos then
Nathan Torres
>Shadow Shaman got his base damage buffed like fuck Can we expect seeing him return to the meta? Honestly I don't even know why he doesn't get picked more often. Literally A+ lockdown and huge pushing potential with wards.
Caleb Mitchell
people have been picking him a lot in 5k and 6k games from what i've seen in streams. pros still rate him as shit tho.
James Ward
Snakes are a literal gold farm for most heroes. Pushing with them is meaningless because they explode the picosecond a creepwave appears now since their splash was removed.
Lucas Martinez
>plants wards to push down enemy tower >tower is now unkillable nice game doturds
Brandon Perez
Probably, especially split push is good now too
Landon Johnson
What item are you talking about that allows you to double apply pit in someone? Also have you seen the range on atos now? That shits ridiculous.
Oliver Reed
It's a sleeper OP atm. Nobody expects it because it was literally garbage up until 7.XX. Also good on Skywrath so you can drop a sick ult and literally melt their three heart centaur in under ten seconds
Ryan Long
alright
lets do some simple maths here
10 int 10 int + 250 hp + ________
30 int 350 hp
and yet people still dont pick up atos on every fucking int hero in the game I dont get it its so fucking good for offlane WR and "supports" when you play them as a roaming 4 like wd or rasta
Lucas Smith
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Luke Thompson
>one month wait until we get to see our boy jimmy win the kiev major feels bad man
Elijah Brooks
ARMOR IS FROM HEROES ONLY YOU RETARDED CUNT
Learn to fucking read.
Cameron Hall
i do on sniper, since the int gives aditional damage for my orb
Tyler Ward
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Jose Price
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Charles Reed
It's a great fucking item and I don't know why more people don't buy it. It's so god damn beneficial to most heroes and synergizes crazily with alot of ultimates.
Jakiros that don't buy this thing are retarded.
Colton Hill
>twitch scum
spotted the underage consider yourself distinguished
Mason Edwards
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Jace Wright
What. I tried it on sniper once for sticking people in shrapnel.
Dylan Morris
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Kayden Sanchez
i meant pure damage superior int sniper, on which atos is op.
Dylan Young
Is Underlord better utilized as a split pusher (Ult+BoT) ora team fighter (fifteen auras and one heck of a right click)
Justin Taylor
splitpusher buy maelstrom bots blink dagger on underlord and split push harder than anti mage
Hunter Morgan
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John James
How about Silver Edge?
Brody Rogers
I've only recently gotten on the pitlord fun train so only been team fighter/fight control, will have to give the split pusher a try.
Charles Ross
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Asher Reed
>+6 base damage on Big Guy is icefrog into big guys? Bane is a fucking support not a carry
Brayden Foster
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Evan Cruz
>double kill with solo offlane underpants Lord because people think they can trade rightclicks with me
Adrian Wright
enough
Elijah Watson
>What is lane harrassment
Cameron Brown
is reducing your damage and making you sleep every now and then not enough?
Joshua Roberts
no enuff
Henry Hall
>LION: >Level 10 Talent increased from +45 Damage to +60 lion... carry....?
Kevin Davis
Apparently it isn't
Isaac Rivera
>maelstrom why tho? He already has lane clearance with firestorm
max aura, then firestorm then pit, ult at 6 12 and 18 as per usual. Depending on who you're laning against, start with aura if you want the early damage boost, firestorm if you want to scare the other dude away from your creeps. Still playing around with items, but you'll want to end up with BoT, Abyssal Blade or Silver Edge depending on how fast your opponents react and whether or not they're smart enough to smoke gank. AC, and Echo sabre to take advantage of his atrophy aura damage boost Underlord has shit attack speed.
Good luck
Blake Morgan
What if we changed one of Lion's abailities and gave him an actual Lion and also gave him a +200 attack range talent?
Liam Martin
what happened to the memes /d2g/? where did they go after 7.0?
Lincoln Evans
>On a 5 game loss streak >all due to HC or mid or both being awful
Stop CALLING ROLES
IF YOU CANT PLAY THEM
Xavier White
but if i dont play those how will i ever get good?
Jace Gonzalez
Play carry abbadon offlane, literally free wins and gives 0 shits what your team does.
Jayden Rogers
>5 game loss streak >next game is a party queue with a 5k and 6k while i am a lowly 4k
Kevin Martinez
Heh, good luck with your loli user, hope she's still worth it
Parker Adams
honestly how do people even gain mmr in this game
like seriously, how do people combat the retardedness of other human beans and actually raise their mmr
people in this bracket just refuse to fucking learn 4k truly is the new fucking hell. I wish i was 2k then I could just win games without having to put in effort, or got matched with 6k+ so I could actually learn and improve
fuck this cesspool bracket
Owen Wright
play unranked if you want to "win" stop thinking about winning if you want to get good and just focus on your own game to game mistakes
Bentley Collins
Black people make anything more awesome
Grayson Hughes
mmr is my metric of "improvement"
if I go up X mmr over Y time, then I must be doing SOMETHING right, be it playing the meta, playing better or just getting lucky with no stacks
going 15-0-20 as an offlane puck against 2 account buyers, then getting stomped ending 0-14-5 against an aggro trilane as a solo ogre cause your lane partner decided he was gonna jungle, doesnt really show me i've improved or not
this bracket is just pure memeaids
Ryder Reyes
So I just came back to Dota 2 recently and noticed the loot system was changed. Can you not get drops anymore after games?
Joshua Fisher
gotta play like 15hrs per drop, and the drops are typically 1 item piece, instead of a set now
Carson Campbell
>>>>>>>>atos garbage before 7.00
bro i will acknowledge the root buff but even pre 7.00 that long ranged 60% slow was massive on certain heroes, come on now
Xavier Ross
then why was it forgotten. The entire time I played in 6.88 I never saw anyone get an Atos.
Chase Butler
See how trashed they got by EG?
Eziest last place of their life.
Wyatt King
Your mom is the Eziest last place of my life
Zachary Rogers
>thinking they'd give up their major strats to a joke show match sasuga dotard
Levi Long
>look at trending Dota guides on Dotabuff >7k players that get midases on supports at 25-30 minutes
Explain this to me
Brayden Martin
Their strat was literally >win with Meepo
I wonder what they could do to counter that?
Xavier King
Do you seriously believe they have a chance against top tier teams?
Aiden Ross
I'm still a firm believer in midas/sacrifice spam lich soft pos 3 into late game hard carry
Henry Ross
stop posting your retarded anime shit and maybe people would care
Jackson Cox
It's time to play GUESS THAT DOTAMON
Joshua Brooks
underlord
Zachary Nelson
reminder that if you play the meta and objective-game you can win and beat the coin-flip nature of mmr
Michael Collins
bloodseeker
Sebastian Edwards
Yes! On a related note, fuck having NP and Tinker on the enemy team at the same time.
Nolan Morris
venomancer
Easton Gutierrez
>the meta >luna
okay grandpa, I see trickle down tactics made it to 3.8k
Asher Ramirez
is leshrac actually good against weaver? perhaps if you build veil and shivas?
Easton Moore
He can blow Weaver up before Weaver can kill Leshrac so long as they have equal farm. His stun and radius damage melt low hp heroes in a couple seconds, and Weaver has real bad stats. He relies on avoiding getting stunned and ulting off burst damage. Lesh can kill him if he lands the stun.
David Lee
Timbersaw
Parker Russell
>This w33ha stream What MMR average is this? It's playing like one of my 2k pubs.
Aiden Rivera
Volvo increased the Judaism massively, bout a drop a week now.
Angel Barnes
>timbersaw >skadi Wat
Lincoln Foster
>5k jugg >6k Sniper >they are in party >Both literally least farm on the team other than the lich support >45 minute game >"I had a hard lane (s) ofc you have more farm than me retard"
REMOVE PARTY QUEUE
Ryan Garcia
>ranked game >your teammate has a twitch link his nick >its live
Its 2017, Jesus Christ. Worse, he got 4 viewers instantly once the game started, the support was getting dewarded, and jungle was invaded at every opportunity.
Nathan Young
usually guess-the-hero posts are dumb memes where some guy buys ridiculous items on an unlikely hero during a very one-sided stomp.
Actually posting reasonable items for the hero is pretty unexpected since usually everybody just memes
Easton Miller
why does Juggernaut look exactly like PA?
Christopher Garcia
literally bad ember
Joseph Anderson
ogre magi
Gabriel Sullivan
>Add quasi region locking >Remove it >Add true solo queue >Remove it It's like they just want to rub it in. >We could do these things, but fuck you! Lol!