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BUFF REAPER

Reaper's wraith form gets refunded after he kills something/collects a death globe

OR

Reaper has a 4 second animation when starting up his teleport, but can move instantly after he's on the other side.

Which of these sound more reasonable?

I want to DEPORT Sombra.

So have we developed a strong role for Orisa in battle yet? So far my best idea for her is relief tank to reinhardt, but then, Mei and D.va can do that as well. She'd be useful in tilting a rein-brawl one way or another, I suppose.

Why don't they just lower the cooldown of his warp? It's so ridiculously long.

Would it be so bad if Reaper could warp around the map more freely?

That first "refund" tidbit sounds a bit op-ish, I do like the idea of that teleport, it'd make it much more useful in initiating fights. Teleport in quickly, smash faces, ghost out.

4 seconds? Thats longer than Long Dick Johnson, and he had a long dick. Hence the name.

She's good for holding down chokes on defense. That's about it.

Just make it so he can cancel his Wraith Form early and I'll be satisfied

What if they made reaper a bit of a berzerker class, where kill sprees are a primary mechanic.

What if he got a short lived speed boost every time he consumed a soul, the only way to keep the boost going was to keep killing. That would make closing gaps much easier for him. he just needs to ambush one victim and then he can go on a spree, or remove himself from a bad situation easily.

Really? I was actually leaning the other way around. I thought teleporting in instantly would be more op.

If you have to wraith in, kill and then wraith out, they'll at least see you coming.

It makes it more punishing to people who try to teleport from a position where enemies can see them.

now to wait 3-4 months for doomfist to be added in

>Replace triple tank with barrier wars

Maybe you should actually try Orisa.

2 seconds for that would be punishing enough. You know how long a second is in these games? Anyway, with the instant ghost reset, we could see a reaper going in, wounding/killing an enemy, running out of ghost, snatch up a soul, and ghost again.

Really, I think before we do something like either of your two suggestions, we start with trying a cancelable wraith form.

She is a bit of a do everything tank.
She actually reminds me a bit of Soldier 76, in that she is a jack of all trades.
She is much less specialized compared to the other tanks, and i think that will make her a net benefit for any team with one, but its not to say the other tanks cant do her jobs better.
Rein is superior as your primary tank, but I wouldnt be too upset with a competent orisa.
Same thing with the second tank role. I think a zarya or roadhog is superior, but i would complain about an Orisa.

>JOIN TEAM CHAT

Orisa manages to be both more and less vulnerable to flankers than Rein.

She doesn't have that instantly reactive 2k shield to just pop around at any direction she wants and block damage from any direction.

But she can also actually fight back against flankers who get behind her shield with a gun that's actually a threat at close range.

He already deals fuck all for damage, may as well make him useful for something.

What were they thinking when they gave him high sustained damage (Hog and Soldier outdamage him in burst damage) without much ability to actually chase down his targets?

>won a game against much higher level players
>gain 60 points
>lose game against much higher level players
>lose 49 points

I'm still climbing, I guess. One Russian guy on my team who was close to diamond and had fallen down to low plat was so toxic though. I tried to stay positive and would give people props for good picks which did seem to work since we were able to win the next round after losing 2, but it wasn't enough for us to win.

It did feel good winning the other match though, even though someone on the enemy team sperged out in match chat over losing.

>not communicating in team game

>Needing to communicate
>Not being able to predict your team's movements with just a glance and following up or lead them on

Sombra is for breeding

Ok Blizzard, back to the drawing board. This is terrible.

Anyone else trying to run this game on a radeon 5800 and getting shitty sub 30 fps on low settings? prob not but thought I'd ask.

Before the new years update it ran really well even on high settings...

Nigga this game is terrible.

What is terrible about it? It's your enemy team fault they couldn't even touch the point

Well, I guess this is Blizzard's response to people whining about choke points.

Now you have to fight on the point with enemies coming from every direction.

>YET MY FEET DONT TOUCH THE GROUND

As it kinda supposed to be.
Aren't it is what you wanted so long, complaining about chokes?

Did something get deleted? I saw two videos up earlier from the official OW youtube channel and now theres only one?

I swear to God it's like this game's moronbase gets worse every single day.

Comp needs a ban system based around player input. Throwers, idiots who won't switch and people who are too stupid to play need to be thrown out.

Yeah, area denial feels like it's making a bit of a come back.

Some people complaining about barrierwatch, but we're slowly approaching the most balanced Overwatch has ever been.

on a side note I'm surprised he hasn't gotten buffed yet.
>no one plays him in comp
>he's been like this since launch
>people have been complaining since launch

Game just needs to ban anyone with a gook or canadian IP

i read that as moonbase

He was in a pretty good place at launch
It is just everyone around him move on and he stayed the same

I'm surprised they haven't fucking fixed Genji's ult or returned Winston to being fucking useful

The same can be said for Tracer.

How did you cap it instantly?

prob 3rd round competitive

>they got rid of brawls for garbage

lawsuit when?

never

>team mates still alive near point
>other team caps it anyway because nobody is on it

Pharahplayers HATE HIM

I've climbed out of plat by instalocking soldier and so can you.

Plz play comp with me

NA support main at 2100

Bnet - Mollywhoppin#1159

But I don't wanna play generic shooty man I want to have fun

they always drop out of where i can see them before i can finish the job

Any news on when PS4 is getting all the bugs from the latest patch fixed?

>PS4

>overwatch on ps

How do you counter Orisa+Rein+Bastion on attack? It stomps in record time. Particularly on payload.

On defense you can zarya+hanzo it relatively easily, but on attack anything other than maybe some heavy dive(and even here I have my doubts because Orisa shield means Rein can actually swing at people diving and Ana can't heal them) just gets rolled before they can build ults.

With new Lucio it's going to be even stronger.

If you keep whining, I will return Ironclad back to 35% again
t.Jeff

Pharah.

He actually maximizes the amount of time spent having fun in an average game, though.
>don't waste time walking slowly to the point because your team didn't pick Lucio, since you can sprint
>don't waste time hunting healthpacks because your team didn't pick any other healer, since you can heal yourself
>don't waste time hiding from snipers because your team ignores them, since you can kill them yourself
>don't waste time waiting for the enemy shields to go down because your team isn't shooting them enough, since you can burst them down quickly or just flank and shoot them in the back
It's all action, all the time.

You're just mad because you can play as your waifu.

Sombra, her ult will remove both shields and remove bastion from turret mode.

Well for one it is QP, there is no way to gauge how effective it actually is yet.

But how do you counter it? Reaper. If Orisa catches on I think Reaper will get picked a lot more. I for the first time ever got gold on damage as Reaper facing off against the exact comp you mentioned. It worked perfectly.

junkrat if you can sneak around the back and get your riptire behind them

I main Rein and backup with Reaper, clocking in at 3200 SR. I play for fun only, if I really really set aside time to practice a lot I'm sure I could get GM since I'm in diamond while not giving a fuck.

I just don't like people telling me what to play or throwing a hissy fit because they didn't get what they wanted. Whenever I go Reaper, the cries of
>"Just go Soldier!"
are so thundering I find myself leaving team chat to avoid it. I want to play what I play, and if I do bad I'm not doing it intentionally. Half the time as Rein I feel like my team would be fucking lost without me, so when I wanna play a round as Reaper I better not hear a fucking word.

OK then let's get rid of Genji's free swift strike when he gets a kill?

I want to become good friends with Sombra and laugh with her at people who think she is a bad hero, especially in the shieldwatch meta.

I used to destroy as Solly without ulting when he still got that 3 or 4 shots with 100% accuracy. But ever since it got removed, my enemies live way longer

How am I supposed to get good at Orisa when there she isn't in comp?
All my game in QP have no teamwork or synergy so it is way harder to be good.

You'll either die instantly or have to stay far away enough that the enemy will rotate to the point while wiping your team before you kill any shields.

Remember that Orisa has a long range no-falloff gun so while for now people can't aim for shit with it, it will soon change.
You get run over before you even have ult. If you can hack the rein instantly so your team can burst Orisa's shield, that's an option.
How? You won't get the chance to teleport in against people with functioning brains, if you wraith in you get a pick or two then die before you can run away and the enemy gets next push for free, if you hide somewhere and wait for them to set up it will work literally once.

Quitting comp match during character selection screen way before match even starts shouldn't be punishable.

t. just got banned from ranked

Meh.

>I've climbed out of plat by instalocking soldier and so can you.
How does being on a lucky streak feel like?

>dc twice on the beginning because my internet is shitting me
>not even twice in a row
>lose 120sr all together
Really makes you think

Create a custom game with your friends.
Still don't understand why we don't have an /owg server

Yea I wish, but then they couldn't force you to play with stacks in your team anymore.

>How? You won't get the chance to teleport in against people with functioning brains
Bastion can't move. Rein and Orisa have to stay close. That leaves three people to try and keep you away, two of them likely being supports. It's no problem. Like I said it was in QP so how this will translate to comp is anyone's best guess. It was also in KOTH, in CP or Payload it'll probably be way harder. Especially if the Bastion composition is defending.

My advice is practice Reaper and see how it works. I'm telling you I've gone against that composition a few times now and Reaper hasn't been bad.

>Pharahplayers HATE HIM
Hate Ana more than him

I don't have any friends though

fuck you

>Know Hanzo is a troll pick
>But he's just so fucking fun

Please help me understand why Orisa gets manhandled by Widow, Soldier and McCree so hard. It's basically impossible to manfight them.

>fixed Genji's ult
what's wrong with it? not accusing you or anything I don't play gengu so I dunno jack shit about him

Because she's huge and they have better ranged accuracy then she does.

you mean when no one screamed at you for your shitty reaper pick and everyone picked heroes based on those guidelines blizzard gave at hero select instead of loosely adhering to the meta and no one but beta players knew how to play and there was no hero limits?

I actually like this idea lot

>Remember that Orisa has a long range no-falloff gun

Loving every laugh. If you really think it takes more time for a Pharah ten miles out in the open to kill a practically immobile gigantic target such as Orisa, then you're probably playing the jet gal wrong

What tank other than Roadhog can manfight those?

we don't have an /owg/ server because we're all shit autists and it'd never work.

also aren't custom servers region-based?

i still wouldn't mind that 6 giganigas roadhogs or reinhardts or winstons chasing a squishy though for top keks.

mostly probably it wouldn't work though. timezone differences, region differences, autists, edgelords, you know the drill. it's like that "Veeky Forums /b/ IRL meetup" cringe situations.

I *feel* how devastating Sombra can be, holy fug. She just really requires skill. I know this phrase is said a lot to justify bad heroes, but this really isn't the case.

I can literally genuinely feel if I was more skilled with her it'd be absolutely devastating. It's right there, it's right in front of my face, it's obvious, but I just don't have the l33thax0rz we r anonymous mlg pro skill.

Sombra has slowly entered my fav characters list, though I don't like her aesthetic design/model.

I agree that problem with any imageboard group activity that it automatically creates attention whores and namefags
Irregular games together from time to time could work though, especially if people from outside are allowed

Hanzo is not a troll pick, tho, he's incredible useful in the right hands

>ask someone to switch
>says no
>someone else on team tells him to go fuck himself
>he goes full blown autism tears "gess ill go fuk myself" and picks widow/torb rest of the game
>"just fukin myself here what do u want from me"
>get him 3 games in a row
>guy that told him off isn't even in my games
>he throws because i'm there

I know this probably belongs more in /3/ but why are Overwatch SFMs so bad

they're all stiff and blocky and whatnot

is it because of the makers that are all shitty or is it the engine itself? or is it the models themselves? is it the people who ripped the models?

where the fuck did they get the models from anyway? just, ripped directly from ingame?

The worst part are the stacks that aren't in the voicechat and flame the other players for being shit

As much as it pains me to admit I agree.

I remember a game with a Hanzo where I could just feel the vibe that he was good stuff. Ookami skin, he was pretty funny and communicative(?) too, waving hello and having a dpi seizure and whatnot, waiting for people to come out of spawn and all.

I don't remember their name or anything, but that Hanzo's still in my memory.

You swing and get hitmarkers, but it doesn't deal any damage.
Had to deal with that earlier against an Ana. Spent the entire ult slashing her in the face and by the end of it she only took damage once.

>"Overtime!"
>Sudden packet loss for the rest of the match

I fucking hate this shit

It's because people don't want to put too much effort in porn of all things.

>not waiting before qing again

oh, I hate those. just the other day I remember one of those in my team were calling someone in our team trash in qp of all places. If only that fucker was as good at the game as he was shittalking people

Guy is an autist but I get pissed when people give me shit over not playing what they want.

I play Reinhardt and Reaper, I'm good at both. If I carry the team as Rein and then want a round as Reaper, I'm getting a round a Reaper and if you don't like it you can throw but I'm playing my Reaper one way or the other.

Its because SFM is the Gamemaker of 3D modelling.
The models are all their textured and waiting and you can just follow some basic tutorials.
These people do garbabe lighting and crappy emotionless animations because its easy to do and they think they're so good. Its even worse when they do shitty edits on models. Like that fag that does those terrible anthro pokemon in SFM, Black something I think.

I've seen stuff made in other 3D programs that are way better.