/ndg/ Nier/Drakengard General #25

Route Y: ETERNAL MISER[Y]

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Oh, that? I'm not sure i would call that "squishing" but ok.

Reminder that Beepy did absolutely everything wrong

fuck off gideon

If he had bonded with a shade that wasn't a literal child things might've gone better

Hey dudes I had a question, does this classify as hitbox porn or does the upper have i-frames and am I just a retard?

who?

Okay, so I just finished Route E and my heart is broken into 1000 piece. That being said, there are a few things which confuse me:

1) Adam and Eve are still alive in the rocket? Where on earth is it going? And why is 9S still on earth even if I chose to go with them?

2) How did the war with the machines end? Did their consciousness just go out with the rocket? Is the world just devoid of robots now and just has androids?

3) What on earth do 9S, 2B, and 2A do now that they're alive with their memories back? YorHa no longer exists and I presume the same cycle repeats.

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The only good Four

>staying behind as 9s

Tears

I'm retarded, explain further.

Operator 210 deserved better. I felt so bad for her because I get the feeling that she legitimately cared for 9S like an older sister. And then 9S had to kill her (or 2A to be exact)

Also, when I went to buy stuff from Pascal, I was pretty happy to see machine torsos and arms which I could've get usually....then I realized where he got them from

Why the fuck do you do this to me Yoko Taro

Wait, is there canon artwork of the other YorHa who were with 2A?

1) Well the Adam and Eve you knew are dead, but it makes sense that the network would have a backup. It's just shooting into space, might not even hit a planet, if it's aimed at a specific place it's not said anywhere. 9S is still on earth because the pods saved his memory, if anything now there are 2 9S, one on earth and one on the ARK.

2) Because the network fucked off, but that doesn't mean there wont be a new network in the future, i don't think the ark had many machines physically in it, so there are plenty of machines left on earth. Probably.

3) Happiness, hopefully. With the machines and YoRHa gone they can start rebuilding the world, for their sake, not for imaginary humans. That's what i choose to believe, if you want to believe in despair that's up to you.

Jesus Christ. Stop with post like these, the game isn't sad. It's the tamest one yet and didn't even have all the quirks that makes Taro's writing style good.

cuhrayzee games general, I doubt most people here are experts on the technical aspects of the game

>tfw 9S and 2B will never have children or sex because they have no genitals

Ah, I had to ask because it's not up right now; I'm sorry. Thanks for your time user

The Ruse Moose
Whats his endgame?

They can always swap in reproductory parts and get on with it.

They do have genitals though, why else would Pascal tell 9S to turn around when he undresses that female android?

9S straight up says they can't make children. And Adam and Eve were smooth down there.

Because it's humorous.
Dev's probably put no thought in it other than making it funny.

Yoko Taro is a hack, he never thinks through anything.

I find it sorta cruel that they spent so much budget hiring Platinum games to do the combat when it's just the same mash and dodge as the others but now with flashier animations. There's a good reason why Platinum games normally don't last more than 6 hours.

Well of course they can't make children, they're robots. Doesn't mean they can't fuck. And i know about Adam and Eve being smooth like ken dolls and them looking like androids according to 9S, but you never know.

That said, you are probably right.

the joke is that there is no more /cgg/ so you might need to ask DMC threads on /v/

but I think launchers have i-frames, since the other weapons are instantaneous

>so much budget hiring Platinum games
>rehash their star fox assets for flight unit segments
>rehash their usual battle system with some twists

Yeah, this game was low budget as fuck.

>yfw 2B, 9S, A2 will start building their own world after Ending E

You fucking edgycucks that think they will kill each other again can back the fuck off.

The one thing that really sucks about Automata is that now that it's out I have to have a bunch of reaction images on hand to counter OG Nier hipsters, which are a thing that never should've existed but have still found a way to anyway.

Nier being a tumblr thing likely has something to do with it.

It's my headcanon and there's nothing you can do to stop it!!!!

I'm with this man, only happiness and relaxation now. Remove Despair.

That's... terribly unfortunate...

However, thank you for the answer, it would make sense except I noticed that you can trade or get hit out of uppercuts so I wasn't entirely sure.

oh you can? then there's no basis for my conjecture, I was under the impression that you can't

Yeah, with continuous combo on I've been hit out of heavy attacks but had the upper still connect and go through, so I'll get a combo out of the trade anyway and heal back with offensive heal generally speaking

>Building their own world
>Not living one last life that they know belongs to them before dying peacefully and leaving the Earth empty

Why is A2's butt so useless?

>leaving the earth empty

How would it be empty when there are still at least dozens of androids and probably hundreds of machines around?

>Adam and Eve being smooth like ken dolls and them looking like androids according to 9S, but you never know.
>That said, you are probably right.

>Hey Adam why are We wearing pants
>Humans thought starting at each others dicks was problematic

I think Adam just could make himself a dick so he would be like humans.

And androids might have something to have fun with. Maybe they hack each other or I dunno do some weird robot shit with circuits.

Or maybe he actually has some dildo down there and Tionlbie some onahole equivalent. They are LIKE humans after all

Do you feel threatened?

They are androids. They won't age to die or something.

yeah just like how machines won't age to die either

They require maintenance

Webm related. :

They put his chip into another machine.

Likewise the androids can always build a new body.

Machines are idiots and they can't repair themselves.

Reposting in the hopes someone more talented does something similar.

I just finished Ending E. I have just one question.
What the fuck exactly was Yorha's endgame here? Cause that part made absolutely no sense.
Having all your former allies turn into psychotic murder machines wouldn't exactly do wonders for surface android morale. It also just seems like a massive waste of resources in general.

That was the machines end game

I doubt that's easy considering they're machines.

There'll probably be racial stigma and compatibility issues.

Collect data on new combat models, keep dragging on the war, faciltate the lie that humans are still alive.

It was so they could use the battle data for the next generation of yorha. Don't think too much into it, it's a kind of crappy ending.

I'm sorry Pascal

The whole they are machine things is exagerated imo, they behave, and function nothing like machines. In honesty, i don't really think their black box being made from machine cores means much, at least not in this game. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a sequel and turns out that something horrific happens because of it, but in this game things seem to be ok.

FISHING

But who the fuck is going to build this next generation of yorha and why is deliberately sabotaging all your current resources a part of this?

Do they just have automatic android building plants in fucking deep space harvesting asteroids for materials or some shit? It makes no goddamn sense from a logistical standpoint.

I'm trying not to think about it but jesus christ this is bothering me.

>compatibility issues

Doesn't seem like it since Popola and Devola can repair 9S with no problems. And as for the racial thing, it's not like anyone besides 9S and the secret Illuminati androids know about it.

Why would they need to be in space when they have the entire planet earth and possibly the moon under "control".

>who is going to build the next generation

The same androids that created YoRHa, who else?

There are cities full of androids everywhere on the planet. Probably factories that make them too.

The bunker was small and insignificant expense of resources.

Did you miss the bits were the androids are getting pushed back untill Adam and Eve die?

That was intentional though, the android machine war was always under control by whoever is controlling YoRHa.

I never saw any evidence pointing towards android forces having any real control on earth. Are you saying this android illuminati has somehow contained the entire machine threat and only keeps them around for propaganda?

According to fucking what? And if true, what's the fucking point?

So why did androids have to fight if humans were no longer exsisting? There's no point there.

What do yo umean there's no point, do you think the Androids want to be exterminated by the machines?

>According to fucking what? And if true, what's the fucking point?

First Taro game? Once you get past the initial shock factor, there's not much there.

The whole point was that there was no meaning behind the war at all and both sides worked to prolong it for whatever reasons.

You get some sidequests that talk about other androids, for example the two resistance members that want 50 grand from you to flee from the war zone.
The area you traverse in game is just a small part of the world.

>According to fucking what? And if true, what's the fucking point?

For whatever reason, YoRHa got trapped in the same logic problem as the machines, they are keeping the war going for no reason at all. Originally the idea was that Androids needed morale to win against the machines, so they created YoRHa and the lie about humans on the moon to make the androids keep fighting, because "everyone needs a god to fight for", however, the secret purpose was also to analyze the data from the war to make better superior androids, and for that reason they have kept the war going.

In Jackass's words, they have kept a war that androids couldn't possibly lose going on for centuries for no real reason at all. And now Jackass is going to find those illuminati androids and execute them for being assholes.

>In Jackass's words, they have kept a war that androids couldn't possibly lose going on for centuries for no real reason at all. And now Jackass is going to find those illuminati androids and execute them for being assholes.
I want this to be DLC so badly.

>Jackass DLC
>it includes executing 2B, 9S and A2 because they were YoRHa

You asked for this.

Yeah.. Sorry.

She's only after the executives, this makes no sense.

Also they aren't part of YoRHa no more.
You'll battle 4S, A12 and whatever though which will be rehashed boss battles to save production costs

Well that depends on if Jackass knows that YoRHa footsoldiers weren't in on it. I don't know if she knows that.

How exactly did the devola and popola models fuck up the gesalt project,

Given how 99% of the YoRHa footsoldiers went fucking bonkers and/or died horribly it's not exactly hard to figure that bit out.

They helped Nier and then got killed by him letting him kill the shadowlord which ruined everything.

>machine network starts running in 400 years
>inb4 it's Nines who kickstarts it and manages it this time

9S did kind of know the truth before it blew open, so that could be a nice misunderstanding that ends up in his murder.
Did A2 know of the shenanigans though? She told 2B and 9S that their command is the one betraying them, not her.

>9S takes over the machine network
>fixes the planet and everything goes well forever

then some shit happens and he kills everyone

classic 9S

By not taking proper care of the replicant nier issue. He's going around fucking everything up and the most they do to try and stop him is send him towards some insane shades and hope he dies.

But it's still not really their fault. gestalt nier was going to flip out eventually regardless which automatically kills the project.

Commander basically entrusted the future to him and he already has experience with merging into the network.
On top of that he has no reason to hate machines. Never had. So maybe he can give everyone a better life.

>It's not sad to me and everyone else is me so it shouldn't be sad for anyone else
kys

im only a few hours in but my melee damage seems really weak

i have +18% melee damage from chips but the risk/reward seems to heavily favour bullet and pod program spam? does this change?

No way man, he is healed now, he's a nice boy he dindu nuffin

exactly

I never very rarely used pods, so i guess. I don't remember ever feeling like my melee damage was really weak though. Well, unless i was fighting an extremely high level enemy compared to my own level.

upgrde your weapons

i meant that i very rarely used pods.

>Nier 3
>9S superboss

>he can hack you and delete your save file

AAAAHHH

How the fuck do you deal against those linked spheres enemies?

>can hack your monitor and turn it off
>can hack your controller
>can overheat your CPU
>can swat you

Shoot at them as 2B and A2, hack them as 9S.

You look at the snake's trajectory and calculate where the vulnerable sphere will be in a second and use that second to get into a position where you can hit it. If the position is something you can't get to, or that will leave you vulnerable, you try again in half a second.

What is it about this guy that makes him swim in pussy?
>2B
>21O
>Devola/Popola
>Pod 153
>4S implies that 9S was generally very popular

He is the only android with a sense of humor.

is he dare I say /ourguy/

Didn't they say that no matter what the machines tried to they could never learn, just imitate humans, something about dictatorships and stuff. The BB being a machine core might then cause problems like this, no?

>im only a few hours in but my melee damage seems really weak
This game is hard early.
Very soon youll upgrade your weapon and start shredding the machines like theres no tomorrow

He's a polar opposite of everything typical NEET stands for
>gets shit done and generally extremely competent
>cute and easygoing
>faithful
>strong
>can actually realize his own mistakes

It doesn't seem like the YoRHa androids are stuck doing the same thing and over again though, they do learn, they can even go rogue.

Ironically, the ones that seem stuck doing the same thing over and over again are the ones that created YoRHa, which would be androids with ai.

At the very least, i didn't notice anything like that in the game.