/owg/ - Overwatch General

Ana's grenade's healing will never be nerfed hard. Ever.

im not joking when I say that this is the first thing I thought of when I saw they were selling it.

i still dont know if i can justify spending $150 on something like that

Anubis > Volskaya > Hanamura
Ilios > Nepal > Lijiang > Oasis
66 > Gibraltar > Dorado
Eichenwalde > Hollywood > Numbani > King's Row

Assault:
Volskaya > Anubis > Hanamura

Control:
Nepal > Ilios > Lijiang Tower > Oasis

Escort:
Dorado > Gibraltar > Route 66

Hybrid:
King's Row > Hollywood > Eichenwalde > Numbani

haha is this an EPIC new "every single thread even though nobody cares" veegee MEME?

Assault:
Volskaya>Hanamura >Anubis

Control:
Oasis>Ilios > Lijiang > Nepal

Escort:
Gibraltar > Route 66 > Dorado

Hybrid:
King's Row > Hollywood > Numbani > Eichenwalde

First for Spicy Thighs

No, seriously, how the fuck do I play Winston?

Also, how to hit Junkrat's bombs more effectively, or do I just shoot them in the enemies general direction and pray?

When will people realize, that Symmetra still counts as support and they shouldn't pick triple support just because she can't heal?

because she is effective as defense

bean here all along

So what is it gonna be?

Surely if it was just voicelines she wouldny both posting about it
on twitter?

An obvious thing is to simply lead them. Spamming down corridors works pretty well, but they can dodge that. Firing the grenades over walls or other obstacles works pretty well, too, in my experience. Other than that, you just have to sort of get a feel for the bombs to hit them effectively. You've got to reach a sort of zen with Junk, y'know? Play him in quickplay until you think you've got the hang of it.
Also, keep traps up as much as possible. They don't even have to be in sneaky spots most of the time, just placing one out by the point might get you a free kill on a Tracer who's not paying attention.
Keep in mind I'm a gold shitter, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

>tracer on hanamura defense
>they're just not doing anything anywhere the entire match before we lose
>they get mad when people go 'hey please be useful maybe a second healer, or a proper defense?'
>they switch to widow when it's attack

Sounds pretty good, I'll keep it in mind.

Winston is an initiator, he needs his team to follow him into battle and needs a good healer to keep him in the fight.

Winston's tesla cannon does the same dps as if he were to punch enemies. The upside is that it can hit multiple people. If you can dive in on multiple enemies with team support you set yourself up for a good fight. Use your ult as a form of sustain, it heals you up to full health and gives you 500 extra hp. Use your bubble not as a rein sheild, but to cut their team in half, ideally you separate ana from rein and bully ana while your team fucks up rein

When will people realize that team composition is highly flexible. A team with two healers and symmetra can do great. You have your main healer ana/mercy just pumping out big heals all game, and you have your off healer like lucio or zen helping the team with mobility / damage.

Sym has great synergy with every support.
Nanoboosted sym is terrifying
Speedboosted sym is impossible to hit
Mercy died with res? Teleport that bitch in.
Discord + sillystring = RIP red team

post butts

Triple support literally never worked in my games, it was always getting stomped in first or second push, I know that team comp can be flexible, I mean, we once capped both points on Volskaya in 3 minutes with 6 DPS after being rolled over on defense, but triple and more support is just hilariously bad.

>entire team of french people
>all sound like they're angry constantly

Late night EU is weird

I love using Sym on payload maps. If we get a competent Rein, I focus on shielding his blindspots, relieving his shield when it gets close to breaking, or warding off flankers

boop

...

symmetra and sombra are dating

pharah + mercy needs to be removed because only hitscans can deal with it effectively and you need to be far better with said hitscan to stop them than you do to press shift and m1 every so often as them

You ever have match that just drains all your will to play?

>Vodka attack
>we spend three whole minutes on the point trying to cap but our and their mercy keep ressing when too many fall
>finally manage to cap with seconds left when reap and pharah both blow their ults just to take their mercy and team down

>join comp
>someone on our team goes attack torb and does nothing but throw himself off a cliff the entire match
>enemy team has a level 30 genji who is very clearly not supposed to be playing in gold elo

Comp really sounds awful.

When you get everyone on mics talking shit while wrecking face on their comfort picks it's the best mode.

When you get children and ebin troles ruining games or dunning-kruger shitheads that won't switch of Sombra despite accomplishing nothing it's the worst.

>5 round nepal koth
>losing first two
>bite it and switch to le ebin germin wall man
>come back kings to win 3-2
>our 76 has 87 elims with 66% kill participation

I don't think there's a better feeling than when you're playing Rein and your dps is competent and capitalizes on your big meaty earthshatters

Assault:
Hanamura > Anubis > Volskaya (a shit)

Control:
Ilios > Oasis > Lijiang > Nepal

Escort:
Gibraltar > Route 66 (except last corridor) > Dorado

Hybrid:
Hollywood > Numbani > King's Row > Eichenwald

>Still have to do 9 placement matches.

Just get them over with.

Assault:
Anubis>Volsk>Hanamura

Control:
Lijang>Illios>Nepal>Oasis

Escort:

Gibraltar>Dorado>Route 66

Hybrid:

Hollywood>King's Row>Eichenwalde>Numbani

I mean he's fun to play I just enjoy him less than other characters, but THE BARRIER META so welp.

make his shield 1000 hp instead and have it recharge way faster once it's no longer deployed imo

Well, Widowmaker is usually better on attack, provided you can hit your shots. Playing Widowmaker in defense is harder because you need to be very consistent with picks.

what the fuck is that thing

They weren't accomplishing shit with either Tracer or Widow, so I'm inclined to believe it was a rage troll pick because everyone was calling them out on their shittery.

git gud

I'm completely retarded at this game, cannot consistently win in bronze.

I'm just gonna do a total reset of whatever "skills" I've developed at this game because there's something so fundamentally wrong with how I play that I can't even win in the bottom 10% of matchmaking.

Help me, /owg/. I just wanna get better. Tell me what to do.

>enemy team goes "wow run all the cancer characters and still can't hold first point"
>we have a torb, mei, and symm which is pretty cancer i guess
>they switch to triple tank and ana + 76
>they can't cap the last point
>potg me death blossoming their whole team
>"when u roll the cancer comp and can't cap last :^)"
>mfw the salt rolls in

Sad. Both of these can carry a game almost singlehandedly, sucks to see them do shit

almost like when you are solo tanking as Zarya, be forced to switch to Reinhardt, manage to get 4 golds, on fire whole match after the switch, and the 76 is like "why the fuck did you switch off zarya, you could've combo'd with pharah or genji, fkn useless, reported"

play winston

>defending teleporter against hanzo on hanamura first point
>doesn't want to jump down to death
>solo ults tele
>misses

>play sombra
>hack Mercy so she floats to the ground, unable to keep spamming shift to her bird wife
>Pharah either dies immediately or is forced to retreat with low hp
>Mercy gets ganged up on and the enemies begin staggering

I know most Sombra players are garbage, but she can really fuck with the enemies in a way that no one else can.

IMO start playing quick play or arcade a bit in case you don't, practice a couple of heroes per category (I'd suggest s76 + another offense, rein + another tank, ana + another healer, maybe learn symmetra spots? idk I did), and when you're confident enough with at least 6 heroes (bare minimum imo) and jump back in.

Try to lead your team as rein, a good tank goes a long way. Mercy too at that rank probably, the more your team stays alive the better

76 needs a nerf ASAP he just does everything too fucking well

As a 76 / Zarya / Ana main I have to agree on the fact that he's pretty good atm, but I don't think he needs a nerf, I believe McCree needs a buff to be on par (or close) to him.

>76 needs a nerf ASAP he just does everything too fucking well

No, 76 doesn't need a nerf, the others need buffs. Part of the reason we have the tank meta in the first place is because DPS got nerfed to the point where tanks and healers can DPS most DPS characters.

>flick sleep high noon on high ground
>land long range nades
>keep split team healed up
>drop anti heal on full team
>made pharah switch with 3 scoped in shots+aerial nade
>sleep ulting winston
>sleep charging reins
>lose

we were at least going to get a draw, but our rein decided to go in hammer swinging, charged into their whole team, and ate shit through nade+heals+nano, and i only nano'd for the damage reduction

>Blizzard guts D.va for '''''''''doing too much'''''''''
>Leaves 76 alone.

K.

>its a nobody on your team kills their heals yet they zero in on yours episode

Get really good at playing Pharah and Roadhog.

What characters do you play?

>3.98 MB, 477x240
w-what was it...?

>Be Pharah
>Shootin supports, doing my usual thing
>other Pharah trying to focus the FUCK out of me
>tbags me when they kill me because I don't wanna waste time fighting them when I'm killing someone more high value
>our supports remain relatively unharassed the whole game and we win

pharah v pharah is a meme that should be ignored 90% of the time

Pharah
Ana
Lucio
Dva
Winston

Depending on what the team seems to need

76 is the only reliable ranged damage really, I guess Pharah, McCree and the snipers but the keyword is reliable.

It's a fundamental problem with the game. We've entered another Lucio dilemma with 76 where unless another character can do what he does, we're stuck with him.

Because blizzard devs are fucking pussies. They know she is broken they tried to nerf her and feared the backlash.

Agreed, it's a massive waste of time, if you are not avid Quake or Tribes player. I usually attempt 2-3 shots, if I don't get direct hit, I simply get back to ground targets.

Meanwhile
>Hog M2 gets a buff
>Hook 2.0
>"heh it's because you were out of position trying to push the payload 3 meters to the checkpoint on overtime" as he eats a self- heal worth more than your entire HP

>nerf 76 to be more in line with the rest of the DPS
>or buff every other DPS to be as ridiculous, flexiable, and no weaknesses as 76
Which do you think's gonna happen. People are only calling for a McCree buff but all that'll do is make him and 76 mandatory DPS slots

What are protips for rectangle german man?

waddle towards the enemy with your shield up, so that it's at least down to 400-600 hp by the time your team is behind it, then when it breaks charge into the enemy, missing everyone, and queue up the mic to say

WHERES THE FUCKING HEALS?????

Dps buff is needed if the nerf 76. We would go through 4 tanks meta

PTR giving anyone else trouble?

finally push myself to go higher then plat this season as tank/heal only

fuck trolls this season though

it's down because the patch is coming out

I didn't realise there were any pros with such high levels. It makes sense tho

>The others need buffs

Tracer and Genji absolutely DO NOT need buffs, those characters can already tear ass easily enough

Reaper is overshadowed by Hog in 99% of situations and needs buffs

Sombra I want to wait and see, anymore buffs and we'll have a new Ana

Pharah's fine, the most I would like to see is some kind of ground pound option, just to drop out of the sky quickly (and truthfully Pharah is a very good answer to tanks since they can't really touch her)

McCree maybe needs less harsh damage falloff or a shorter cooldown on his roll, but he doesn't feel like he's in a terrible spot.

76 is the only one that feels like he's too good at everything from every range imo, his gun does crazy damage while also having greater burst than McCree thanks to helix, heals faster than if he had a zen orb on him, and sprints are pretty good for jukes

Start swinging when Roadhog has his hook on CD. Don't swing if u see snipers. Don't walk into Mei wall traps. Bait hooks and shatters by dropping ur Shield for a split second. Don't ult as soon as Rein drops his shield. Swing at him once first to make sure he is not baiting you. Putting ur shield up slows u down but if u need to get out of bad position. Drop ur shield, jump, put your shield up and the second you touch the ground let go of the shield and jump again then hold the shield etc.... U will move with your normal speed while blocking a good amount of the damage directed at you.
If u land a shatter. Do this combo: swing fire swing charge.
Don't fire strike at the choke if you have your ult.

Ana's grenade is a problem.

I don't know why they're SO scared to nerf it. It has a big radius, does a significant amount of damage, blocks healing AND, wait we aren't done describing a SINGLE ability, it also increases healing on ally targets.

Is there some Ana cartel that is threatening to murder Kaplan's family? I'm very confused.

What do you do when Tracer and Genji are both absolutely fucking your whole team? Had a match on Gibraltar where we got absolutely rolled by them, we tried to Winston at the very end but still just got stomped

>tfw you cant boomerang throw your ult and we're stuck with a shitty 2-3m lob

Assault
Anubis > Volskaya = Hanamura

Control:
Oasis > Nepal = Lijiang > Ilios

Escort:
Route 66 = Dorado > Gibraltar

Hybrid:
All of them are great but Eichenwalde is my favorite

it's an instakill on anything but a tank and tracer is really good at getting behind people, that would be stupid op

It shouldnt provide the extra healing percentage from all sources. It should only increase the healing from her gun and that's it.

Fuck illios ruins. it's so bad.

When will Tracer tights become a thing regular girls start wearing?

SOMBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

Today in quick play I saw a Gold tier Reinhardt (Silver last season) trying to break Orisa's shield by swinging at it.

Heres what would've happened if you played 76

>play 76
>Shoot mercy
>kill her
>shoot pharah
>kill her

And? Melee does damage to the shield what's your point?

No, there's no cartel or any such thing.

Overwatch dev team has stated multiple times that they make their design and balance decisions on their internal playtesting and how they feel about the game.

Honest gut-punching truth is that Kaplan played Ana, internally, a bunch of times, and thought that all things were okay.

Same thing goes for all the other bullshit issues in the game.

>play QP with friends because comp is a fucking joke in OW
>every game has autolock hanzo/widow with a meme name
>decide to go Winston/d.va and bodyblock them all game

oh no is retarded

The entire Bastion situation was remedied because Jeff played a couple games in LIVE and realized how horrible it was.

You're telling me their internal testing didn't show them that an unkillable, damage dealing monster was totally okay to just be thrown into the real game without any prior tests?

I've come to the point where I don't know if this is serious or not.