>General Motors Co (GM.N) was accused in a lawsuit on Thursday of rigging hundreds of thousands of diesel trucks with devices similar to those used by Volkswagen AG (VOWG_p.DE), to ensure they pass emissions tests.
>The proposed class-action lawsuit covers people who own or lease more than 705,000 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups fitted with "Duramax" engines from the 2011 to 2016 model years.
>It said GM used at least three "defeat devices" to ensure that the trucks met federal and state emission standards, even if they generated more pollution in real-world driving. The complaint was filed in the federal court in Detroit.
EVERYONE is cheating on emissions, it's just a matter of who gets caught and when.
If all these cars actually met the standards set by people who know fuck all about cars, nobody would buy them and they'd all just get used shit that actually runs and drives well.
Carson Morris
>emissions was a mistake
There's no such thing as new carbon.
Ethan Turner
>i have a shitty chebby wit a DI gas enigne >its only a matter of time before i get monies
Nathan Parker
Wut
Jackson Wright
its gonna happen bro.
Ayden Howard
gm fangirls on suicide watch
Brody Campbell
lel GM fangirls will defend this
Nicholas Bennett
I think the question should be "who ISN'T cheating emissions"? If nearly every car maker has to cheat emissions, then there's something wrong with the emission standards.
Joseph Torres
>has to
Parker Watson
BTFO once again
Adrian Long
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Ethan Evans
watch them defend it >hehe u dont like smelly engines i bet you are some lefty ecocucks! GM is good, climate warming is a lie!
Joshua Lopez
>just don't sell diesel trucks when every competitor offers them yeah that'd ruin a brand pretty fast.
Lol at all these losers having meltdowns in this thread
Elijah Price
hey you dropped something, here.
Xavier Moore
lmao.
Robert Mitchell
...
Mason Scott
Fpbp
Josiah Wright
btfo.
Wyatt Wright
Please catch Toyota, I would like a buyback offer.
Zachary Morris
Meltdowns aside what did anyone expect? ICEs have to have emissions it's what they do. You can't legislate away physics.
Aaron Rodriguez
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Ryder Hernandez
>"ford" included in URL >CTRL+F not found on page
what did he mean by this?
William King
interesting, I did not notice this either.
Isaac Hill
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William Sanchez
Right now I see >26 replies >16 posters 1 poster posted 10 times.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. My number of qoutes seems interesting
Dylan Baker
>only one person is triggering me!
Logan Rivera
They all are. Everybody tests turbo engines off-boost which is technically cheating. Just like all professional athletes use drugs but only a few get caught.
Landon Richardson
>people are forbidden from dumping memes stay salty GM friendo
Tyler Collins
I know your thing is gm trolling, but I truly feel sorry for you.
Brody Foster
Assuming this is a new person, now we have 17 posters You're the same person and samefagging. I feel even more pity for you.
Eli Thomas
really makes you think eh.
Justin Roberts
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Jackson Fisher
imagine being this autistic lol btfo
Ryder Cruz
>1 poster posted 10 times. do people call you dumb on a regular basis?
Nolan Bell
im not you retard. posted only these.
have a taste of my OC filthy GMfag
Christopher Lewis
also daily reminder prez/o/ WILL create one of those >why havent you bought a corvette yet? threads in next 24 hours to damage control
Parker Perez
>baseless claims
I will wait until they actually find proof >see if I can nab me a cheap diesel chebby after
Jackson Cox
Everyone, except for Tesla, is cheating. It was just a matter of time untill another big manufacturer was caught, it is just fair that it hit a burger company this time.
Luke Howard
sperg more
Caleb Sanchez
>Alphonse has joined the session
Shit's gonna get good.
Gavin Murphy
ive been here the whole time. i was just posting under user.
Nathaniel White
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Adrian Morales
Wait...dont you drive a GM truck?
Anthony Nelson
Now you know why I shitpost so much
Levi Morales
>the absolute state of prezo
Parker Reyes
Nice quads.
Grayson Lopez
>be liberals >whine about "muh environment" >buy a car that hurts the precious fuckin environment
Austin Campbell
>emissions meme How many cars piss oil everywhere?
Dominic Hernandez
>get bailout money to save your ass >release only disappointing piece of shit vehicles since then GM should've died
Jose Watson
lol gm fangirls thought they could sweep this thread under the rug
"""The federal government filed a lawsuit against Fiat Chrysler Automobiles on Tuesday, accusing it of using illegal engine-control software to enable its diesel-powered vehicles to pass emissions tests.""" who the fuck cares, everyone cheats
Levi Torres
lol they defended it
John Evans
Dammit GM! I keep supporting you and you keep fucking up!
Christopher White
0.3 less seconds of lap time have been deposited in your Nurburgring record.
Thank you for correcting GM's record.
Christopher Price
Except Ford.
Leo Reyes
>blows off EPA bullshit >"fucking up" Huh?
Sebastian Gomez
gm fangirls on suicide watch
David Ross
We don't know that yet.
In all probability they will also be sued since the other manufacturers couldn't find a way to make the power without cheating that means there's no way Ford could stay competitive without also cheating.
Michael Scott
Government is gonna take a lot of money off of GM... That is the definition off fuckin up.
Brandon Powell
Government giveth*, government taketh.
Oh the irony lmao.
>*2008 government bailout
Angel Collins
bump
Jacob Kelly
>be liberal >say battery cars are good for the environment >ignores battery production industry
Thomas Jones
>implying that isn't factored in electric pollutes less. deal with it.
Kevin Barnes
I would like to see how they calculated it. All that open pit mining they do in china for those rare earth elements cant be good for the environment.
Easton Nguyen
it's already factored in. stupid autist. sperg harder
Jason Butler
>tfw you live in Jew York and daily an 8 mpg small block chevy with no emissions equipment
Adrian Edwards
Can you reference how they "factor in" these mysterious pollution variables and conclude that electric cars pollute less than internal combustion powered vehicles instead of throwing insults and posting smug anime girl pictures like some moronic bait throwing poster who is responsible for the slow deterioration of this website since they usually cannot back up their claims so they resort to an hominem attacks which shoo away any real discussion and only leaves bait posters in their wake?
Asher Phillips
>can you please spoon feed me No. The EPA factored it in. You're the same cuck who gets triggered every time. I'm not going to post the same image. stay mar
Lincoln Brown
It would be nice if you did post it since it would not only inform me of how they "factor in" pollution created by electric cars. It would also prove to other people looking at this thread that electric cars are better for the environment.
But I guess you've grown tired of proving your point so you've told me to "stay mar"
I, on the other hand, think the electric car industry isn't as cracked up as they make it out to be. Its more of a "there polluting over there so don't worry about it" sort of solution and wont do anything to save the planet that you have apparently grown tired of fighting for.
Juan Hughes
fpbp
Camden Barnes
or 2 posters 5 times or 5 posters 2 times or 3 posters with 2 posting 4 times and 1 posting twice etc.
Daniel Perez
sperg more >t. gm's marketing team
Nolan Watson
NICE DIGITS
Michael Brown
Nobody cares. A ton of truck buyers just delete their trucks anyway. With how Trump is handling the EPA, they hopefully won't have any power to do much of anything anymore.
The shills don't seem to understand the diesel truck community.
Carson Brown
.thread
Benjamin Campbell
gm fangirls actually ragequit
Kevin Baker
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Jaxon Edwards
>It said GM used at least three "defeat devices" to ensure that the trucks met federal and state emission standards, even if they generated more pollution in real-world driving. That's because emissions tests are NOTHING LIKE REAL WORLD DRIVING
Christian Reed
>Does Veeky Forums really care about emissions? No, not for us and our few shitboxes but I can see where millions of new cars need to have emissions controls or we'd have brown skies.
Matthew Turner
>replying to the LOL U MAD!? troll
Jonathan Brown
sperg more
Jaxon Morgan
@17272312 You won't be getting my (you), sorry.
Ian Cooper
sperg more.
Elijah Wood
One doesn't simply delete their posts, Cerberus. How's the samefagging life treating you? Pic related.
Jeremiah Nguyen
Almost forgot the picture, sweety.
Christopher James
i have no idea what you're talking about drake poster isn't me tho. you're delusional.
This is the most correct post in the history of Veeky Forums. I can practically guarantee that every car company does one or more of the following: - Emissions/fuel economy cheating - Tax avoidance/mitigation - Cutting corners on production - Bare minimum adherence to safety standards, pretty much only luxury european cars even try to make their cars safer than is demanded by whatever organisation is in charge of maintaining safety standards amongst auto manufacturers.
Jose Morales
they didn't calculate or consider shit, this faggot is lying out his ass.
they believe that all these electric cars will be charged using solar stations and windpower, lol.
