This is for a serious discussion about drive type. RWD, FWD, or AWD ?
What's best for a DD that's also fun to drive? I mentioned to my dad and brother that I'm thinking of getting rear wheel drive car and they pretty much just said that was really stupid and I should get a FWD or AWD. They said RWD is ridiculous bad in the snow but Veeky Forumstists have told me its fine if you have good tires and aren't stupid
what's Veeky Forumss opinion? as far as RWD, I can't find many in my price range that are also manual(there's a lot that are auto though) it's pretty much just BMWs I can't afford maintenance for and 1 non-v8 Lincoln landbarge FWD has many options, my favorite being a Ford Focus SVT. I like the car a lot, but I'm worried the something RWD would be more fun there' one good AWD, a 05 impreza wagon. It's a nice car but I don't want the Subaru reputation and they just seem way to common. what's the best?
Anything with snow tires >>>> anything without snow tires. Drive layout does not matter.
Jackson Lee
FWD cars are actually pretty good now desu. For a DD I would recommend FWD. If you don't get snow then get an older RWD, if you get a lot, get a Subaru. Also don't get turbo, 91 octane is too fucking expensive.
AWD option vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/cto/6131191914.html I got to college in an area with a lot of snow and ice, plus lots of hills. this points to the AWD subaru being better. however, I also like to have fun driving, and the ford seems more fun
Carter Hughes
desu fwd cars are better in the city. you're not gonna be putting all your power down that often, and they tend to be lighter and have better fuel economy. you do have to work harder or improvise to have fun with them. when I was younger we'd put metal cooking trays under the rear wheels and drive around at night sliding around corners and shit.
Isaiah Green
>city I don't really live in the city and my college is kinda in a town in the middle of nowhere. I plan to go drive around for fun a lot outside of the city
Caleb Bailey
I mean If you have money to burn in the long term Legacy GT... But 91 octane is a whore Maybe a WRX if you can find one that hasn't been force injected with autism
David Williams
the linked cars are in my budget, I can't spend much more than that. a WRX is going to be way more
Oliver Watson
I haven't yet driven anything RWD, but where I live has tons of hilly, twisty roads and we get a real winter. Absolutely the conditions for AWD. Depending on the car you may be able to drop out the driveshaft in the summer to pick up better fuel economy that's likely not realistic for most people, but I know some guys who do it
Owen Perez
>They said RWD is ridiculous bad in the snow What? It's FWD that's shit in the snow. RWD is good.
What is best for a DD? FWD What is best for fun? RWD What is best in the snow, snow tyres. AWD will let you pull away more easily but won't help with steering or stopping.
If you can't afford the maintenance on a BMW you won't on a Ford, everyone I know with one spends more time with it in the garage than on the road.
Jaxson White
I've never driven anything RWD that wasn't a pickup or a SUV :(
Xavier Peterson
>vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/cto/6131191914.html forget the fucking drivetrain layout. the focus svt will be way better to drive because the suspension, chassis and engine were developed for spirited driving, which is something Veeky Forums doesnt understand because it isnt easily understood on paper like >muh rwd that lincoln, while cool on paper, will drive like a heavy gas guzzling corolla and the subie will drive literally like a corolla except going uphill in the winter.
Josiah Carter
OP please understand this. The difference in tires impacts snow driving literally 10 times as much or more than the drivetrain layout does.
5th gear or some other car show from england showed it with a certain grossover. Fwd and awd on summer, both on all season, both on winter. Fwd on winter beats the shit out of awd on summer or all season.
Fwd can be easier in winter than rwd because quite some weight (engine) is above the driven wheels. This CAN reduce the chance of the front wheels losing grip. Once grip is lost, it comes down to driver skill and experience. Rwd and thus oversteer is, in my personal opinion, easier to correct than fwd and understeer. To regain grip in fwd one would have to reduce gas and steer the wheels back to their neutral position, and THEN steer back. This is so counterintuitive to normies that most crash regardless of layout.
Depending on where you live though, try to do a training about this. Here in Netherlandistan it is quite a hype to give these so-called "slippage courses" as a birthday present. They're 200 eurobucks or something. A teacher teaches you how to react when wheel slip occurs
Dylan Miller
>That Subaru I'm actually looking for slightly new one and may buy that one since it's only a few hours away. My experience with AWD: >Major snowstorm >Took my $700 Subaru with all seasons out in the snow for a Timmies run >No snow plows out yet >mfw I drive just fine there and back
Zachary Gonzalez
the general consensus amongst engineers and mechanics is that you are incorrect and that understeer is far easier to correct than oversteer. that's why they now recommend prioritising rear tires before front ones, regardless of drive train.
Hunter Ortiz
>Fwd can be easier in winter than rwd because quite some weight (engine) is above the driven wheel That's why you toss a few hundred lbs of sandbags over the rear wheels during the winter man.
James Harris
99.99%+ of the time it makes literally no difference
Jack James
as someone who dailies an MR in north europe which gets snow RWD is not a big deal. Half the cars are bimmers and they drive in winter fine. just get good tyres and don't be a retard and you're fine. You don't need 800lb f lifted crew cab bro truck with snow chains and steel testies hanging from back. You can do fine with a kei car in snow. Even if entire road is covered with mirror smooth ice you'll be fine with any car. t. take my MR on ice tracks with mirror smooth ice during winter and do fine
snow is overblown by dumb americans who drive summers and stomp on gas and blow into semis and then try to sue the weather.
Connor Butler
Oh no. Someone please tell me the Miata is a bad dd. Someone. Please
Christopher Hill
>everyone 91 octane is expensive >always buy 94 octane because it's ethanol-free >make up the difference in increased fuel economy
Joseph Rogers
maybe one with 290k miles
Kayden Walker
FPBP
Thread should've ended here
Justin Martinez
It generally doesn't matter if you're following the rules of the road. If you want to drive like a retard, then you may get more out of RWD. You'll also probably end up with a suspended license.
Leo Cook
Haha uh no, just do it on back roads or at night. I've never been caught snow drifting and I've been doing it for 3 yrs in my Miata
Hunter Lopez
Red with open differential is bad. But as long as you get a performance car with LSD it's fine.
Christian Bell
Have fun getting impaled on a guard rail, child.
Oliver Mitchell
>lot of snow and ice >Vancouver Only during a La NiƱa winter, which we just had.. Won't have another one for 8-10 years, last one was '08-'09
Parker Flores
rwd with a couple sandbags in the boot is fine for snow
Kayden Price
At most I'll slide into a ditch, chill. I know the spots that are safe
Brody Moore
>Red
William Garcia
That's 290k kilometers. About 180k miles
James Richardson
>Vancouver I'm actually from Washington. Car prices in Canada are generally a lot cheaper and the exchange rate makes 75 of my cents equal to $1 up there. When you're talking in the thousands, i save like $800.