488 vs 911

I think the Porsche looks more classy.. i don't like that fuck boy look the Ferrari gives.

No, it's less than half the price at 143k whilst the Ferrari starts at 301k. Also the Ferrari has 661hp as opposed to the Porsche's 500. But the Porsche beats in on the track. THAT'S what this thread is about

A "fucking camaro" doesn't steer. Not even sure it has a steering wheel. we're talking real cars here. Not high-speed trains.

Erm, not for the 2016 friendo. All 2016 Porsche RS are well over 200k some sitting at 260k Also keep in mind that these are used. dupontregistry.com/autos/listing/2016/porsche/911--gt3--rs/1641966

Why should I care about two cars I'll never drive?

/this

Honestly, no one here can afford either of these cars.

The GT3 is. Those listings are 1k mileage used in Top Gear and JewTube shit with ALL the options. entry level is still half the price of the Ferrari. And you don't need the RS or anything else to beat the Ferrari

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Nice dubs, also, do you really only talk about cars you can afford? No. No one fucking does

Entry level is 175k bare bone. Also that Ferrari some time is going to be one of those cars anyone can afford down the road. it just keeps going down hill. Look at the Gallardo, that car is trash now. That Porsche gt3 is going to be worth 400k one day if not more.

I stand corrected, that Porsche price is excluding taxes whilst the Ferrari is in Canadough

The Gt3 RS... NOT the Gt3.. i'm taking about the Rs

It sure will. The 488 has no production limit, just waiting time. The GT3 is amazing no doubt there

No one needs the RS

>no one here
1/10 bait

You know 911s are easily attainable right? You can get a 997 for $30k and drive it everyday, rain, shine, or snow

And thats why you own a bicycle, right?

Nah too busy buying a house. 911 comes after

>he's not a NEET like me REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just buy whichever one you like, neither company makes an objectively bad car.

>neither company makes an objectively bad car
Porsche makes the Cayenne, Macan and Panamera

True. But why is Ferrari the "Einstein" of cars when Porsche does better with less?

I'll just leave this here

Which are very good in their segment and make them all the money they need to keep building sports cars.

True. But this though

That's a really clever way to get fleet average emissions down. They just buy a bunch of iQs from Toyota, change up pretty much every single panel as well as the entire interior and sell it as their own car, which in turn allows them to keep building nothing but V8- and V12-powered works of art.

>But why is Ferrari the "Einstein" of cars when Porsche does better with less?
it's all about the branding fampai

they also attract some of the most cancerous drivers on the road, at this rate it's inevitable that Porsche drivers will eventually attain the same reputation as BMW/Merc drivers.

That's sadly what the "luxury SUV" segment does. Same with every BMW X model, Mercedes SUV, Audi's entire Q lineup, basically every Range Rover...

>it's all about the branding fampai
That's my whole point (OP here)

>they also attract some of the most cancerous drivers on the road, at this rate it's inevitable that Porsche drivers will eventually attain the same reputation as BMW/Merc drivers.

I fear this. As a new Porsche fan, I see people don't understand/respect the car. But being objective, Ferrari's also are fucking Gucci man-purses to a lot of people.

you buy a ferrari for the experience and sound

you buy a porsche to dd and track

>dd and track

bruh

Fuck ferrari

911 is the best selling sports car of all tyme

Also 570s is cheaper than a 911 turbo
Britain is the king again

>still, the Porsche wins the vast majority of real life tests.

That's bullshit OP and you know that. Please show us some evidence for your claims.

I'd probably rather have a 911 Turbo S than the 488 because it'd be a way more reliable daily driver

>A "fucking camaro" doesn't steer. Not even sure it has a steering wheel
Was he just pretending?

I don't care how fast the Porsche is. There's no fucking way in hell I'd pay that much for a 6 cylinder that sounds like a minivan. Plus you'll look like even more of a douche when yo inevitably snap oversteer into a wall.

>nearly 31
>uses lap times to determine if a car is good
Aren't you a little old to be a bus rider?

they are different kind of cars and they isn't really much to compare

with buying a ferrari, you're buying the experience., the involvment in "high society" and ferrari invites you to their silly rich people events etc. nothing too much regarding the car itself or any real sports driving. It's just a big circlejerk. If you buy enough ferraris from them overtime, and get your rich friends to buy ferraris, they reward you by picking you to offer you their newest special snowflake cars they don't sell to normal scrubs, and invite you to more special events.

with the porsche you're mostly buying a car. Everything is about the DRIVING EXPERIENCE and not the social status aspect like ferrari. With porsche you can have european delivery and fuck about with your car in europe, and they'll ship it to your home country afterwards, or you can go to the driver's experience every year and they'll ship your car to the track after you sign up and drop it off in the dealership.

TL;DR Ferrari's user experience focuses on the social status aspect of owning a luxury sportscars with events, dinners etc. Porsche focuses on actually driving and not circlejerking with other rich people. Unless it's a classic porsche.

I want to actually own my car and not have the brand send me a C&D for doing things to my possession

American cars have shit handling, period. That's why our cars are used at every fucking bracket of racing except for the one where you turn left for hours. That's for the limited capacity of ameriburger's intelligence and car handling.

I don't know where you're getting your info. This site suggests that the 488 is faster across pretty much every measure, especially at the top end, than the GT3 RS. Of course, if I had to buy one, I'd still get the GT3 given the $75K price discrepancy.

Forgot site:

fastestlaps.com/comparisons/1ct6zndtgn5l

Blowing out an absolutely rancid fart in a Ferrari feels a lot better than doing it in a Porsche. Dunno why. Maybe it feels more transgressive or something.

I highly doubt that.

>fastestlaps.com/comparisons/1ct6zndtgn5l

You fell for the Porsche-meme

911

488

The 488 is a one trick pony (heh), 2 seater sports car that's (sadly) mostly used to show off or kept in a garage.

The 911 however is probably the only sports car out there that can be owned as an only car.

>not too wide, has normal ground clearance
>no typical supercar issues like shitty visibility, tiny fuel tank or a shitty transmission that's awful at regular driving
>usable rear seats or decent luggage space, roof rack for ski or bikes available
>will not fall apart or ruin you with service costs if you put miles on it

And it comes in all kinds of flavours and with a ton of options to fit whatever you want to do with it. (I'd have a manual Carrera 2S with a ducktail pls)
Driving dynamics are GOAT, and all it takes is a GTS to keep up with supercars in case that matters.

The only gripe I have is the 991's light power steering (It's not that bad though, just not perfect). Apparently they fixed it with the facelift, but I haven't driven that so far.

The Ferrari is probably a great piece of engineering (same as a GTR, an Aston Martin Vantage or a Mclaren whatever), but the 911 is a different, somewhat unique kind of sportscar for a different purpose and not really comparable imho.

BS.

You fag can't afford a Ferrari that's all. Porsxhe is the Golf of sportscars.

wow what an amazing company

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This one little faggot must be the single one that;s killing the rest of the Veeky Forums boards with these fake bullshit stats. [Citation Needed]

We've already established muritard cars do not handle anything else than straight, dispite losing even 1/4 mile race, and turning left a lot during those laughing stock """""racing events""""" called Nascar. Get over it. No. Not happening. Murifags do not build good cars. Nor do they get music and food. No. It;s shit. Fuck off of this Japanese board.

delet this

This, and the C6 Z06/Z07s don't overheat, have leaf spring suspensions, and muh pushrods.

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>all of them slower than the GTR around the ring

And all of them faster than a Beetle with two extra cylinders and a big wing on the back, not to mention half the price.

Feel free to sperg out about muh GT-R though.

>do you really only talk about cars you can afford? No. No one fucking does
this is kind of the problem with benchracing busriders on Veeky Forums though.
>lmao this car is so shit my civic with a few simple mods can beat it

you should at least ride in a car a few times to get an actual feel of it before shitting all over it.
I'm sure most of you would otherwise like many cars that you think are complete shit, be it because of the price, lack of power (which apparently means anything less than 1000hp), lack of torque, lap times and so on.

911 is 423 more than 488, so how is this even a question?

uhhh hes not wrong? porsche is literally GOAT in daily driving dynamics while retaining world class tracking ability

>18 more than a 911

488: Rich kid with no taste

A newer 911: Estate agent with coke addiction who likes "modern design"

Get an 80's 911 you pleb

>S1071 more than a 929

So he wasn't just pretending, he actually was.

porsches are THE sports car you can dd and bring to track on weekends

you fucking retard

looks like Chernobyl isn't the only thing in europ that's melting down

Who's buying a $175-200K sports car and worrying about service costs? Nobody cares about how much it costs to maintain their 911 or 488.

>worrying about service costs
It's not really worrying, it's more annoying.
Mainly because you know there's no way the services rendered are worth what's being charged.
Having the cash to buy a six figure car doesn't make me believe the floor mats are worth $250 apiece, or that it really costs $150 to change the oil.

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Well, think about it a little, Ferrari makes cars that are supposed to be rediculous. They make cars that look bold, almost obnoxious, kind of like Lamborghini does. Porsche has always been a company about functionality, and even though the cars they release might look lackluster next to a Ferrari, they beat them around the track because they're made to be more sensible.

>1500 more than the s2000

You'd be surprised how fucking cheap wealthy people are.

>if you have money you shouldn't care if you're being massively overcharged

This...I've built kitchens for rich people, contract stated 40% deposit, 40% on delivery, 10% 30 day holdback. I'd show up with the boxes, looking for my 2nd 40%...them asking if I can hold on yntil the end of the month when whatever interest something was payed...
Nothing has moved off my trailer yet, so I just lifted and secured the ramp, and with them asking what I was doing, I got back into my truck and drove off...
I'd phone them back later and remind them that as per contract, I get my 2nd 40%...or no delivery...
Funny how they always seem to scrape it together for the next day...
Don't even ask about the 30 day hold back...that shit can go months...