Also reminder Moe Shivvu best demonfu if you disagree you are a homosexual or a lawfag.
Jason Martin
It's not bad.
James Allen
Gas the hoy posters
Lucas Brown
REND
Elijah Nelson
Nekomata > Moh Shitvu
Ryan Robinson
Why is the Devil Survivor series so punishing for simple choices? a little bit of spoilers in this small rant
In this first game, Kaido or something won't protect Mari (His fucking childhood friend) unless you tell him he should protect her in day 2, and if you don't do that you will be unable to save Keisuke on day 5, which just seems retarded that you need to tell the guy to protect someone he knew ever since he was a kid, and how he won't do it unless you say it.
In the second game, you are supposed to get everyone to Fate 4 to get the True ending but even small choices before the demon invasion begins can affect the Fate points some characters gain (The way you introduce yourself to Io increases the Fate value if you pick the correct option(s) )
Call my a crybaby, but I think it's just boring to have to REALLY focus on every single dialouge choice even when it's not law/chaos related (see : introduction with Io and how it can affect the fucking ending if you somehow are a few points short off of Fate 4 with her) I get that in other SMT games choices matter, but the choices are kinda obvious most of the time, Law / Chaos and sometimes Neutral, making every little thing matter just makes people more inclined to start using guides which in my opinion kills the game.
Rant over, hang me for being a whiny faggot I don't care, had to get it off my chest.
Andrew Garcia
Looks like shit
Easton Ross
Welcome to the General of SMT Games, where shitposters gather...
Brody Turner
SLAUGHTER
Oliver Hughes
Ignoring Jimenez and Protagonist losing his jawline and cheekbones, Gore's updated design is absolutely unforgivable.
Nolan Martin
Gore... Gore had a smooth life
Josiah Reed
I know that feel brother.
No.
Tyler Taylor
because you play multiple times
Elijah Torres
...
Brody Cooper
Besides Arthur and Gore, who are canonically some of the most bro-tier characters in mainline series?
Jaxson Russell
dagda, atsuro
Isaiah Cooper
>playing a tactical turn based RPG more than twice
I don't see the appeal.
Dominic Hall
I think /feg/ might have a word with you.
Brandon Morales
...
Henry Morgan
Big Booty Ghost Navarre
Parker Martinez
Can someone post all of the "revamped" designs IV and IV - Apocalypse gave us? I just remember the archangels being really stupid.
Isaac Jones
>muh motorbike gang
Landon Peterson
...
Cameron Walker
SMT x Dark Souls?
Leo Gonzalez
Human lives are often lost due to unforeseen circumstances. Choices you make may have consequences you as a mortal being cannot comprehend. The problem is you want to play as a God and can't live with consequences.
I've played through like 15 or so megaten by just following my heart and discovering where it leads me.
Cameron Nelson
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Owen Kelly
SMT x Star Wars?
Eli Davis
What are you even talking about, this nigger looks exactly the same.
James Murphy
Are you blind?
Thomas Jackson
>literally SJW cast Dropped.
Justin Gomez
He's right though, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Gore, he looks the same, literally. Jimenez on the other hand...
Noah Brooks
>he looks the same >except he doesn't Are you blind?
Jaxon Evans
A good megaten game lets you have an equal chance of getting any of its endings, not having one locked behind a wall of correct choices that only a lucky person or a guide-reader gets.
For example, I played Nocturne and on my first playthrough I got the secret boss fight because I did not feel like accepting any of the other Reasons, that's good design honestly since I had an equal chance of getting any other ending.
But with DS it's impossible to get the true ending or save certain NPC's unless you're extremely lucky or use guides on your 1st playthrough.
Camden Cruz
Are you? There are no differences, you can't deny that.
>still no arguments about what so different about him so far
Jonathan Allen
How hard was the Gore boss first time round for you? >prev thread links to an image of Alex Ah I've found my waifu. >not pixie
Nathaniel Flores
Are you blind?
Ethan Perry
he's slightly different, but hell if anyone could tell from DS resolution
Ian James
Felt like adding to my post.
The problem is that the choices required are just too specific, you need a chain of correct choices to reach the desired goal, and each of these choices is so obscure you can almost never get them right.
One game bases that shit off of your choice when you greet someone and the other bases it off whether you betray or don't betray , you know?
Juan Foster
I want to lick Waxed Gore's head.
Bentley Richardson
>his eyes are smaller >detail on his lips are gone and their made much larger >looks like a generic anime black man now >"he's the same/there's no differences" t. Doi
>slightly different I think you have some sort of ocular disability.
Oliver Foster
>le ruined designs Gore looks the same. Go back to /v/ or something.
David Scott
>No eyeliner on all chars >No black upper lip >Less detailed shading
It's doll-like people vs anime shit. The outfits are vastly superior on the left but let's not pretend that the right is perfect. The shading is obviously more detailed but they still have his trademark doll people look. It works great when he's drawing demons or uncanny people like Demifiend but it looks odd on normal people, especially Jimenez.
Connor Myers
(You)
Luis Powell
>looks like a generic anime black man now
You're joking, right? And what was so unique about his original artwork? He looked more tense and now he doesn't, that's all. You can argue about the artstyle being inferior but when you guys say dumb shit like he looks generic now as if he didn't before, it makes it obvious you're just nitpicking.
Jeremiah Gray
>details on his lips are gone >his eyes are smaller >he could tell from DS resolution Fuck outta here stupid shitposter.
Zachary Gonzalez
>Gore looks the same. Doi's Gore looks like a wax sculpture going into uncanny valley compared to Kaneko's Gore. His skin is completely smoothed, he has next to almost facial details that make him stand out from the others and even looks like his face was flattened and steam-pressed.
Where's the detail, stupei?
Austin Myers
All you have to look at is the official artwork from Atlus themselves you mongoloid.
Adrian Fisher
I hate this bitch so much
Adam Miller
Why did you reply to me though? I didn't say Gore looked the same at all. I said the comment about him not looking unique anymore was pure BS because he never did to begin with. He had the token big balled black guy design japs love to use for anime black guys.
Jaxon Roberts
>Where's the detai That was mine question, provide us with high-resolution Kaneko's Gore picture to proove your shitposting about ''''details'''' on his lips right. Otherwise you're talking out of your ass and should neck yourself before your genetic code outbreaks from your crotch (which probably won't happen anyway)
Evan Harris
Why isn't this filenamed anime blackman? The user your responding to didn't even say anything about DS resolutions. Why are you strawmanning so badly? And that looks awful.
Jackson Bell
Dagda and Navarre in final
Walter in 4
Lucifer and daisoujou in nocturne
That's all I can think of
Jace Ross
He looks just as bad as Kaneko 80s angels desu. Fucking garbage.
Brayden Smith
>Doi's Gore looks like a wax sculpture going into uncanny valley compared to Kaneko's Gore.
And Kaneko's Jimenez doesn't? I'm just saying that you guys are pointing out every single mistake Doi made like Kaneko's is perfection. Yes, Doi has less detail in his art because he's going for a more 2D art style, arguing against that would be dumb.. but to pretend Kaneko doesn't go full doll-face when Jim has it the worst is just cherry picking. All this focus on Gore's downgrade when Jim went from weird glass eyes to normal is just extreme bias.
Jason Gonzalez
Looks fucking terrible like something A-1 would shit out with their designs. Can you explain why he looks like a rubberman in Doi's artwork?
Caleb Clark
Too smooth. Face looks as if all the features have been shrunk down. All those facial details like the cheekbones or his ridges. His expression is too neutral and too soft imo, gore had a more intense face but I dunno if that's just his lines from Kaneko or his eyes looking more larger.
Brody Hughes
Can you explain why Jimenez's face looks weird as hell and uncanny.
Jonathan Jenkins
Jimenez and Protagonist look the least problematic of Kaneko's artwork, especially compared to his pre-Nocturne stuff.
Luke Rodriguez
>inb4 who is kazuya
Benjamin Davis
Nocturne >Dante / Raidou IV >Walter IV:A >Dagda >Gaston
Jacob Murphy
Why is Doi allowed to make shit like this?
Isaac Collins
Nigger is a nigger, I honestly can't see that much of difference. I bet user whos trying to argue over loss of details is probably nigger too. All niggers should be hanged, ho!
Zachary Parker
>stole a demon >ditched me >attempts to fight me when I leaned somewhat law What a prick. Law bro broke me out of prison, sacrificed his life to save me and only got brainwashed
Wyatt Bell
Doesn't change the fact that it's heavy biased. Unlike the other shitposters I can admit that Gore received a massive downgrade, but the people who are complaining are acting like Doi's change made everyone look bad, when Jimenez's face now looks normal.
I wouldn't even care if it wasn't for the fact that people still shat on Doi during his IV and IVA artwork. I mean, I agree the random guest artists were garbage but what did Doi do in those games that were so bad? He even made Merkebah look good in IVA. At this point it's obvious that we have a case of SMT genwonners who will shit on everything regardless of quality because it isn't by the original artist. They won't even give credit when it's due.
Eli Green
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Carter Howard
People here never shatted over Soejima though. /smtg/ is a bunch of cucksona fuccbois.
Christopher Nguyen
I said time and time again that while Doi's art work is more slanted toward the generic anime style, and generally simpler and softer then Kaneko's I had no ultimate issue with his version of the protagonist even though I prefer Kaneko's over his. And Zelenin actually improving under Doi.
Daniel Wright
>And Zelenin actually improving under Doi. kys right fucking now, Zelenina was ruined the most
Bentley Long
You haven't seen it then. They shat on every artist that wasn't Kaneko. They pointed out the artist's flaws for each game, like P3's being it's neck but defending how badly Kaneko handle's his feet. It's nothing but bias. They'll go as far as attacking a character's designed fashion sense but defend what's her face's entire denim outfit that didn't even look stylish for it's time.
Charles Collins
Can't tell if this is retarded fanboy or shitposting so I'll bite. Zelenin is the least changed. The only real differences for her case is the eyeliner removal, no black upper lip and the shading difference on her hair and face. She's he closest to her original out of all the other chars here.
Kevin Powell
Handsome Jimenez or Junpei Jimenez >inb4 what's the difference that's the joke
Tyler Adams
>Nigger apparently is Ubergestalt Sounds like terminal cuckshit. Why everybody loves this progressive trash?
James Smith
SMT I has the best Law hero and Chaos hero. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact.
That said, which is the best Neutral representative, /smtg/?
Blake Perez
sure, look at his tone, typical lawfag
Gore is probably the most memorable.
Dominic Watson
Y-ko.
Aaron Torres
>implying BLACKED isn't the secret to enlightenment Poor foolish user. >not Lucifer and Zayin
Joshua Morgan
I love Izabo. She just wanted to be kuru bifauxnen.
Grayson Perry
>A group meant to look ethically diverse with certain racial features emphasised like MC's facial bone structure and Jimenez's hair >Now they're all just cookie cutter anime characters with different color skin This is disgusting.
Jacob Cook
>A group meant to look ethically diverse with certain racial features emphasised like MC's facial bone structure and Jimenez's hair
Sure, fucko, thats why Space Marine was japanese and american at the same time, alright...
Gabriel Howard
>he doesn't know how to do both More like worst
Aiden Kelly
>Americans can't be Japanese >Japanese can't be American
Matthew Gonzalez
post more cute
Jaxon Ross
t. nigger Why are you here, shouldn't you commit crimes and debate about piramids right now?
Oliver Cox
Because world of STR white boi.
Evan Green
To the artist fellow from the last thread, that style is really interesting, keep the art flowing.
Joseph Hughes
>liking a fujoshit who probably wanted Jonathan and Walter to bang throughout the game
Ryan Walker
Agreed. Also, do the cast of SJ. I wanna see how your style makes them look
Noah Myers
Kuru, not kuuto! >projecting with your inner faggot this much Suck a dick or something.
Luke Ramirez
Hey now, Flynn and Jonathan would clearly be the better gay pairing.
She is literally a fujoshit though.
Joseph Ross
>She is literally a fujoshit though. Sorry user, but Final is not a canon.
Joshua Jones
>SMT >worst girl's a monkey >Gundam >worst girl's a monkey Coincidence?
Benjamin Taylor
Not him but Final is very canon. It's an alternate universe to IV but they both happen. The DLC proves this fact.
Isaiah Price
I would probably have intense anal sex with her until one of our pelvises snapped in half
Fucking hell short haired nerdy cute indecisive women are so hot
Cameron Taylor
>The DLC >proves anything
Gabriel Murphy
Which Gundam exactly? Would watch. Also farted in your face.
Jonathan Turner
You're either shitposting or incredibly stupid if you can't understand what the rest of the playerbase got from it. How about you go run through the wiki and save you some time arguing with me?
Adam Martinez
Let him be, user. He just hates the idea of his pure qt neutral waifu wanting to see guys fuck one another.