sneks are not a combo deck sneks are a plug n play extra wincon in your control and mid-vengeance decks spread awareness to save a life
Joseph Miller
I need a runecraft deck that's not dshift, dirt aggro or daria tempo.
Logan Richardson
Does mangrove work like robinhood, hitting the enemy before they hit their target? I've never actually tested the amulet.
Lincoln Smith
You just listed every playable rune archetype.
Gabriel Flores
Make forest great again!
Jaxson Peterson
THIS SHITTY FUCKING GAME LITERALLY GIVES ME THE SHITTIEST DRAWS POSSIBLE
Aaron Gutierrez
which Shadowverse is the biggest slut?
Thomas Perez
>I need a runecraft deck that isn't the only 3 viable runecraft decks in the game
Justin Hill
Alright Dusting those 2 useless leggos in favour of this shadow deck was a good idea Holy shit
Liam Price
>T1 Vanguard >T2 Vanguard and TAG >T3 Pompous Princess pulling a TAG >T4 Pompous Princess pulling a TAG >T5 Floral >T6 Alwidas Like fucking really?
Owen Kelly
>pepecraft what's the point
Jack Bailey
>elves >having rights
Joshua Wood
Post your current leggos
Jonathan Parker
Goblin princess.
Dominic Rodriguez
Well that just leaves you with snowman PtP, have fun with that
Ian Cruz
Post elf
Aaron Wilson
i just imagine elves and fairies being breeding material in a roach den, isn't that the only thing they're good for?
Jaxson Thomas
dragon hunting
Brandon Garcia
Dirt Control and Dirt PtP are too weak against Shadow rn to bother with, and you've denounced the other good archetypes, so I guess you aren't playing Rune today
Oliver Taylor
>he doesn't play dragon/shadow
Benjamin King
afaik
Hunter Myers
not him but what rune should i play in tog? any cheap deck?
Carter Gray
sAUCE
Austin Brown
Reminder that wallet dragon is actually super hard countered by Aegis/Grail haven if you don't suck.
Plop your cup down on 8. Does he D-blast? Congratulations, you're clear to Aegis without face pressure. You win.
Does he not? Drink your cup with hallowed and get 3 satan cards with a 75% of an Astaroth, and a 100% chance of one of Dis or Rider. You still win.
You only get fucked if they have get to lategame with 2 evolves and back to back Zell you. But, if they manage to get to lategame unpressured enough that they can do a 2-turn 4-card 2-evolve combo, you deserve to lose you turboshitter.
Eli Rodriguez
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Justin Peterson
Moonie want list!
Christopher Cruz
add pepe to banner btw, he works in it too
Cameron Gray
Fuck Soulsquasher. Why is this card allowed?
>oh you just evolved that one? Thanks
Julian Anderson
>they need to start giving forest ways to actually take advantage of fairy generators. These cards already exist, but the problem is, they all suck compared to Roach. So, nobody even bothers.
Eli Roberts
Dirt Burn is your best bet.
Connor Morris
But what about Ginger?
Liam Martin
You listed every PLAYABLE rune archetype.
Jordan Johnson
>T8 do nothing Thanks for the free Saha+Bahamut/Ouro and Zell evo.
Christian Taylor
Hence the notion that forest needs something better than AE and roach.
Andrew Jones
But storm ramp kills aegis though.
Grayson Lewis
How do you guys control your anger while playing?
I end up punching the desk, punching my thigh, yanking my hair, or scratching my arms to the point of bleeding. I've broken trinkets on my table as well.
I don't understand how other people can control their anger so well.
Adam Robinson
Alright, so I have 2 Alberts, 1 gawain (Going to make more), and 3 otohimes (All drawn from packs).
How many more sword legendaries do I need for a deck? And what would it look like? Is Otohime useable with Gawain now?
Blake Jenkins
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Connor Anderson
They don't just suck compared to roach, they suck compared to the cards of every other class as well. Pretty much all the cards that aren't played in a roach/wolf deck are terrible. Even then they aren't great.
Alexander Moore
the problem with forest is that the combo mechanic is supposed to give a bonus effect on top of the base effect, but all of the cards are so shit without the added effect that they basically have a hidden +2pp tax on them. cards like tia seem strong for 5pp, but the actual cost is 7pp. then you're forced to play garbage 1/1 fairies that are even less useful than the 1/1 knights in sword decks because there aren't as many or as good cards supporting them.
Eli Rodriguez
not being autistic helps
Jonathan Taylor
Only Zini is really bad. Not a terrible pull starting out. Do you know about the private match quests for 100g each?
Ethan Price
it's time to take a break
Austin Ortiz
burn? i know about the dirt sub-mechanic but what is burn?
Mason Allen
Literally impossible to "pressure" dragon as Haven. You can easily ignore their minions and soak damage to your face while ramping if and then play your board clears once you get to high enough PP. Doesn't matter if you're sitting at like 10 health or so after it, your average Haven deck has zero reach so you don't even feel threatened by them.
Once you get to 10 pp you basically never give them a safe turn to drop aegis or grail or whatever shitty wincon they're using. Literally the only way to lose as dragon is by bricking and never drawing your ramp or late game minions.
Oh, and one of those sword taunt legendary chicks.
Kayden Jackson
this nigga has it right shit like metallurgist sounds great on paper, but in reality you need a 4p to even get the combo off, and then you have a shitty 2/1 on the field, with two even shittier 1/1s.
Brayden Peterson
basically aggro
Josiah Jones
Just exit the game, alt + F4 exists for a reason. Then take a break for the rest of the day or even a few weeks. No reason to get that mad at a RNG game.
Elijah Evans
My anger usually subsides after a few games and I just accept it's going to be one of those days.
Blake Jenkins
>How do you guys control your anger while playing? i just stop playing, then once a few minutes pass i am calm and can think rationally again
although its not working that well anymore since i always get anxious as fuck when i load up the game now. i don't think i'll ever be able to enjoy playing again
Hunter Rogers
spell damage. half the "control" decks in shadowverse are burn decks.
Nathan Jenkins
Forte so based
Wyatt Scott
>punching my thigh do you have cute thighs?
>scratching my arms to the point of bleeding i recommend biting them instead
Christian Sanchez
Combo mechanic is fucked because of 10 mana and 5 slot board cap.
Only roach can maximize due to its damn cheap as fuck.
Michael Rogers
guys how do I stop my laptop going into nuclear meltdown when I play games? I literally only use it for morrowind and shadowverse. I can smell it burning a hole in my desk. no seriously, I smell burning.
Aiden Gutierrez
This is the dumbest shit and it almost never works but it's so satisfying to do when it does
Colton Sullivan
>intelshit >not made for poaching eggs on youre cpu when was the last time you cleaned up the insides? they are delicate things you know?
Nicholas Evans
----> /g/
generally you likely should check if it has some space below it for venting, laptops usually have vents on the bottom
Jeremiah Johnson
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Eli Wilson
daria pleases elephants now
oglers weren't enough
Hunter Watson
>since i always get anxious as fuck when i load up the game now Me too. Not sure why, even happens in unranked.
Carson Thompson
Spicy.
Andrew Jenkins
Yeah exactly, the combo effect is pretty taxing and most of the combos are just bad. They have such bad card draw as well, glimmering wings is a 2 mana draw 1 or draw 2 if you play two other cards. There need to be stronger effect that aren't just "play 2 cards get +1/+1", tia is good if you can get zero costs as well, but the only thing that really gives zero costs is like EPM and Feena. The combo minions are just given bad stats because they have an effect to make them okay with the combo, the combo should make them a lot better for the cost.
I would love to see different combos and them actually putting to use fairy generators, instead of just giving forest these useless generators that will probably never see play like fairy cage.
Roach is also the only combo effect that scales with a bigger combo for forest I believe. And it's pretty much forests only finisher outside of silver bolt so they pretty much have to use it, as they can't really rely on their weaker minions.
David Gonzalez
MAJOR I'M BURNING UUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
Colton Williams
asking for tech support on /g/ is like asking for an anime like cowboy bebop recommendation on /a/.
Adam Fisher
Unranked doesn't bother me at all, but I just hit AA2 and with the meta not being settled yet, I have a small fear of playing ranked right now because I don't want to lose an insane amount of points being relatively close to Masters.
Oliver Perez
Why does rank never reset?
Christian Bell
>Roach is also the only combo effect that scales with a bigger combo for forest I believe.
There is Tam Lin but he is understated. Like the other user said the combo cards pretty much has 2PP tax attach on them. So the other way to make these combo viable is for forest to have a way to reduce card cost in hand.
Jackson Garcia
Tia has gotten power-creeped so hard it's not even funny.
Costs 2 extra cards/tokens to use, or an evolution from a 4 pp minion that is extremely awkward to use going 1st. Basically 7PP for 6/6 rush when we now have cards that are 4/5 rush summon a 2/1, has no combo req and requires no extra cards to perform, is a must kill target because she gives evolves for free if not destroyed.
I see a lot of lists actually dropping her now because she requires too many cards/board space to use and is no longer good enough for all those downsides.
Joshua Kelly
its more like a 3 pp tax because generating fairies usually costs 1 pp
Jason Ross
no, go look up midrange albert sword deck on game-ai and forget about otohime. All new sword legs and golds are average at best and control sword is more meme than ever.
Jaxson Hill
It's not that simple. The thing is EVERY Forest deck plays Ancient Elf and Roach. Whenever you hear the words 'Forestcraft' or 'Arisa' you immediately think of AE and Roach. Those two cards, and the style of play they encourage are integrated with the class' identity. If you are not playing Ancient Elf and Rhinoceroach in your Forest deck, then you are not playing Forestcraft. You are playing something else. It's not a simple matter of nerfing the cards, or making new cards that push AE and Roach out of old lists and fuck up the metagame. Players would still get pissed of no matter which decision here is made. These two cards restrict design space for the class, but at the same time, nerfing these cards would make the entire class unplayable overnight, and Cygames knows this.
>no, go look up midrange albert sword deck on game-ai
that deck scares new players because it also has 3x tsubaki
tsubaki is optional for that deck, you can use dod instead
Ryan Harris
I go where the road takes me Time to settle down~
Isaac King
Just beat a luna and she rage DCed on me, Its probably going to make me lose even though I won THERE we go I won
Nolan White
Master is the real ranked and it resets monthly.
Jonathan Brown
>gert with ward
Dude, Lecia only protects Officers that were on board before her.
Think Liza.
Juan Watson
I don't think you could make a deck that works without AE or Roach just because the forest craft cards are so bad and the combos outside of roach are extremely weak with a high card tax. Do you think you could make a forest deck work well against other decks in the current meta without those cards? The problem with forest is they have so few options and their cards and a lot of the combo effects are just useless.
Brayden Hernandez
he actually explains why it has tsubaki you can go and do 12 face dmg on t7 with her and Arriet - better than enhanced albert
Julian Reyes
>Whenever you hear the words 'Forestcraft' or 'Arisa' you immediately think of AE and Roach.
There is the reason this picture is editted this way .
However, if they really make something that is stronger and can replace AE and roaches entirely, I don't think anybody will complain. At least I won't.
Aiden Carter
Why are most of the fairy generators so fucking bad? Fairy token generation seems to be worth about .5 PP. Then they print shit cards like Fairy Knight that's an entire 1PP over Blitz Lancer for 1 fairy.
Parker Sanchez
oh, you mean a totg deck i haven't seen yet
i meant a couple of rob decks there, or that #1 deck from twitter with 2 luminous mages, tsubaki is completely optional there imo
arriet + baki looks very interesting indeed
Ian Torres
elf really just relies on roach and ae to even stay alive what forest deck could you even make that would stand a chance against any other classes in this meta? i think the point is that the power of their other cards is so low they can't really get away from roach and ae
Julian Davis
But she's so cute. I don't want to have to drop Tia.
Anthony Perry
I kill myself
Henry Moore
>main both shadow and dragon >be garbage tier in DE and RoB >mfw both shadow and dragon are tier 1 now you all laughed at us look who's laughing now
Jaxson Parker
so you spent 40k on new cards?
Chase Jenkins
>tfw Ungoro looks really fun that I have no will to play SV anymore
What do, senpai???
Carter Fisher
Just a little bit more
Isaac Garcia
Yes exactly I really want something like Fairy Princess to work out, or Rose Queen or even Fairy Cage. They really need to create cards that can actually take advantage of a lot of fairies, the problem is always 1/1 fairies taking up the small amount of board space and being useless 1/1 fairies that are only really there for combos (of which are pretty weak effects outside of roach). Then they just clutter up your hand most of the time, and that wouldn't even be a bad thing if you had more cards to use the size of your hand like bolt and will.
It's just they have so few options on how to play the class, and comboing outside of roach isn't even that good most of the time.
Zachary Lopez
>Last two dragons have been JO Pendants with Eggs >didn't draw their mad cyclones >wasted their salamander breaths on maids and vanguards Just because you have removal doesn't mean you should use it every single opportunity you get. The 1 damage pings don't mean shit when you can heal for 4 HP a turn.
David Rogers
shadowverse gets patched to shit while hearthstone gets patched to fun
what a time to be alive
>b-but muh magic card designers
Gavin Perez
Same. I was even lucky enough to get an animated Tia.
It kinda sucks that Aerin is taking her place
David Reed
>kabal is dead without Reno >pirate gets spayed >jade will run rampant
That is fun, right?
Liam Harris
>autism
i don't get particularly angry at games. yeh i might curse if some bullshit rng happens or i misplay or whatever but if i'm on a losing streak or something i just exit, do something else for a while and play later
shit nigga it's a fuckin game that's most popular with japs playing on their cell phones on the train - you should never be causing injury to yourself over weeb anime tiddie wizard poker