Why did he kill his family and himself? Why not just flee?

>FOR WHAT PURPOSE? TO LIVE INCOGNITO, IN DEFEAT, AMONG ENEMIES, IN A WORLD CONTROLLED BY THE ENEMY, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES?
>THE WORLD AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WORLD THAT THEY ATTEMPTED TO ESTABLISH WAS NOT AN OPTION; WHY LIVE AFTER EXPERIENCING TOTAL DEFEAT ON A PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL, LEVEL?
>YOU WOULD ARGUE THAT KILLING THE CHILDREN WAS UNNECESSARY, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE; VIDELICET: THE CHILDREN WERE THE ONES WHOSE EUTHANASIA WAS MORE IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THEY WERE PURE PERSONS, AND AS SUCH, THE AFTERMATH OF THE WAR, AND LIFE IN THE USURPED WORLD AFTERWARD, WOULD HAVE BEEN SOURCES OF IMMENSE SUFFERING, AND POTENTIALLY, OF CORRUPTION.

so really he was just a sore loser?

did you miss the raping his family part?

fucking idiot

He was a fanatic and couldn't imagine life without Hitler.

Just like us

>FOR WHAT PURPOSE? TO LIVE INCOGNITO, IN DEFEAT, AMONG ENEMIES, IN A WORLD CONTROLLED BY THE ENEMY, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES?

So, pretty much like all of the other Nazis who went on to live in Latin America, work with the CIA or other American intelligence, stage fascist uprisings or just live off of the money they took from Germany just when WW2 ended?

You fucking faggot.

Idiot.

You going to elaborate on that or just resort to namecalling like the anti-intellectual roach that you are?

Eldest was photoshopped in because Harald had been off in the Luftwaffe and was captured.

Harald got final letters from his parents.

____________

Dear Harald,

We are locked down in the Führerbunker at the Reichschancellory, and we are fighting for our lives and honor.

How will this fight end, god only knows, But I know it will end for us with honor and glory, dead or alive. I do not think we will see each other again. These will be the last words you will receive from me. I hope, if you come out alive from this war, that you will honor both your mother and I, as is not necessary for us to survive to influence our people.

You will be the only one left to carry on with our family traditions. Always act in a way that does not shame us. Germany will survive this war, but only if our people has examples to guide them. and this is the example that we want to give.

You can be proud to have a mother like you have now. Last night the Führer gave her the golden party pin he has carried for years on his jacket, and I think she deserves it.

In the future, you will have only one mission: to be worthy of the great sacrifice we are willing to make. I know you will.

Don't let the noise that the world is about to start disorientate you. One day, the lies will fall under their own weight, and truth will triumph over them. The hour will come in which we will be above all, clean and without guilt, like our faith and task were.

Goodbye dear Harald!! If we meet again, it depends on god. If it is not to be, I will always be proud of having belonged to a family, that, even in adversity, and up to the last moment, has been faithful to the Führer and his pure and holy cause.

My best wishes and dearest greetings.

Papa

From Magda Part 1/2

My beloved son!

By now we have been in the Führerbunker for six days already — daddy, your six little siblings and I, for the sake of giving our national socialistic lives the only possible honorable end.

You shall know that I stayed here against daddy's will, and that even on last Sunday the Führer wanted to help me to get out. You know your mother — we have the same blood, for me there was no wavering.

Our glorious idea is ruined and with it everything beautiful and marvelous that I have known in my life. The world that comes after the Führer and national socialism is not any longer worth living in and therefore I took the children with me, for they are too good for the life that would follow, and a merciful God will understand me when I will give them salvation.

You will live and I ask only one thing form you, that you never ever forget you are a German, never do against your honor, and through your life, see that our deaths won't be in vain.

The children are wonderful ... there never is a word of complaint nor crying. The explosions above are shaking the bunker. The elder kids cover the younger ones, their presence is a blessing and they are making the Führer smile once in a while.

Last night, the Führer took off his golden party pin and pinned it to me. I am proud and happy.

May God help that I have the strength to perform the last and hardest task. We only have one goal left: loyalty to the Führer even in death and to be able to end our lives with him is an honor.

Harald, my dear son — I want to give you what I learned in life: Be loyal! Loyal to yourself, loyal to the German people and loyal to your fatherland ... Be proud of us and try to keep us in dear memory ...

It is difficult to start a new page, who knows if I can fill it, I would like to give you so much love and strength, and take away all the pain for our loss. Be proud of us and try to remember us with pride and happiness.

We all have to die. Isn't it more beautiful to live less, but with honor and dignity than to have a long life in shameful conditions?

I must finish, Hanna Reitsch is taking this letter, she is leaving again, I embrace you with my most sweet, deep and maternal love.

My dear son, live for Germany!

_____

Little wonder why Harald spent the rest of his life living a decadent billionaire's life and dying in a furious plane crash.

Your Mother

>THEY WERE PURE PERSONS, AND AS SUCH, THE AFTERMATH OF THE WAR, AND LIFE IN THE USURPED WORLD AFTERWARD, WOULD HAVE BEEN SOURCES OF IMMENSE SUFFERING, AND POTENTIALLY, OF CORRUPTION
A true übermensch would brave whatever challenges were thrown at them regardless of petty physical sensations like suffering. They would successfully resist corruption. By genociding his own family he was essentially admitting his genetics are inferior.

Switch that last part around. Magda was mentally ill from her trigeminal neuralgia, but she wasn't a seer.

Apparently Goebbels was quite a player, which is bizarre because he was ugly as fuck.

>Baarová, still working for the Ufa studios, met him when Goebbels visited Fröhlich's home in 1936. Gradually, they became closer and, under the urging of Goebbels, started a relationship that lasted over two years. Their love affair caused serious complications between Goebbels and his wife Magda. When the minister began to show up in public with his mistress, Magda Goebbels in turn began an affair with Goebbels' state secretary Karl Hanke and eventually asked Hitler for permission to divorce her husband.
Why were the Nazis such hypocrites?

Yeah, Goebbels had a Czech Actress as a mistress, and his betrayal of Magda got so bad that Magda went to Hitler begging him to approve a divorce. Hitler, not a fan of divorce sat them both down and recommended a separation, and when they came back together, and Goebbels was still unfaithful, Hitler would grant a Divorce heavily in Magda's favor and strip Goebbels of his position.

It was enough to scare Goebbels straight, at least until the beginning of the war. Then he went back to his mistress with Hitler too busy for the war. Ny then Magda stopped caring, and jumped head first into the war herself, including working part time in a radio factory (foregoing her armed guard and private car to ride on the bus with the rest of the women) and volunteering her time nursing. She ended up[p getting really jaded about the war right up until her trigeminal neuralgia set in.

Because they are human as you or I.

>By genociding his own family he was essentially admitting his genetics are inferior.

This was the mainline belief among higher-ups in the party.

Look up "Volkssturm". It is essentially sacrificing the loyal German civilians for no reason at all.

If you are a social darwinist, your only logical conclusion to a failure like the one the Nazis took in WW2 is that you really are inferior and therefore deserve to die. It makes a lot of sense.

They racemixed, they bestowed the title "honorary Aryan" amongst Japanese, Chinese, even Jews (!), they took speed and an early version of methamphetamine and generally engaged in any "degenerate" behaviour imagineable.

To be fair, the 1000 year Reich had just started. You have to expect these things from an infant regime.

*Just like how Communists indulged in vices and killing peasants in mass and Republics denied the vote to women and colored people.

Awful human beings, just awful. Nazism was a cancer, so happy it was cauterized.

I DO NOT EXPECT A MATERIALISTIC BARBARIAN LIKE YOURSELF TO COMPREHEND CONCEPTS LIKE NOBILITY, HONOUR, PURITY, OR AUTHENTIC BRAVERY.

I like how you decided to reply to him, but dodged my post:

>THE WORLD AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WORLD THAT THEY ATTEMPTED TO ESTABLISH WAS NOT AN OPTION

Apparently it was for all the Nazis that did end up fleeing.

Like Klaus Barbie, Gustav Wagner, Josef Mengele, Walther Rauff, who were all essential to the Nazi administration?

Depending on which source you believe, around 9000 Nazis fled Germany after the defeat.

spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-explores-how-so-many-nazis-escaped-justice-in-south-america-a-879101.html

>THE CHILDREN WERE THE ONES WHOSE EUTHANASIA WAS MORE IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THEY WERE PURE PERSONS, AND AS SUCH, THE AFTERMATH OF THE WAR, AND LIFE IN THE USURPED WORLD AFTERWARD, WOULD HAVE BEEN SOURCES OF IMMENSE SUFFERING, AND POTENTIALLY, OF CORRUPTION.

It seems to me most of them had it quite comfortable in Chile and Argentinia.

I IGNORED YOUR POST BECAUSE IT IS SENSELESS; YOU DID NOT EVEN HAVE A "POINT"; YOU TOLD NOTHING WITH YOUR REPLY.

>Apparently it was for all the Nazis that did end up fleeing.

IS ETHOS NOT A FACTOR TO YOU AT ALL? APPARENTLY NOT; IF IT WERE, YOU WOULD BE AWARE OF THE DIFFERENCES IN ETHICOMORALITY, AND IN PERSONAL STAKE, AND IDEALISM, BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS.

>It seems to me most of them had it quite comfortable in Chile and [ARGENTINA].

>FOR WHAT PURPOSE? TO LIVE INCOGNITO, IN DEFEAT, AMONG ENEMIES, IN A WORLD CONTROLLED BY THE ENEMY, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES?

>I DO NOT EXPECT A MATERIALISTIC BARBARIAN LIKE YOURSELF TO COMPREHEND CONCEPTS LIKE NOBILITY, HONOUR, PURITY, OR AUTHENTIC BRAVERY.
Try me. I greatly admire nobility, honour, purity and authentic bravery.

However I just do not see the value in rejecting materialism. Is it a crime to build a sewage system and wash cholera out of London? Would it be wrong to colonize mars? These things are the physical manifestation of the will of people like yourself. In this sense materialism is not barbaric.

As far as selfishness goes, as I mentioned, I do not place much importance on petty physical sensations like suffering, neither do I value hedonism or mere pleasure. Nobility, honour, purity and authentic bravery are in my interest and thus it is in my self-interest to promote these values, I strive for them in myself and would try to foster them in others if I had the influence. I would take thm out of the metaphysical/spiritual/abstract/theoretical realm and make them a reality. I am striving to achieve excellence.

One does not value the materials used to make a piece of art, you value what it means. All value stems from the immaterial, but we are part of the material world. Embracing it and making your will manifest is a worthy goal.

If I am wrong, I want to know why. Even if I am unable to comprehend I at least want to catch a glimpse of your esoteric wisdom as a tourist.

>IS ETHOS NOT A FACTOR TO YOU AT ALL? APPARENTLY NOT

That is the entire point you worm, that for most of the NSDAP high ranking officers, ethos was not relevant at all.

>IN A WORLD CONTROLLED BY THE ENEMY, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES

Every Nazi, from Hitler to Goebbels, has always been opportunistic. This is easily proven.

While the theory backing up the Nazi ideology clearly stated who is and who is not Aryan, the NSDAP just bestowed the title "honorary aryan" upon anyone they wanted to be viewed in favorable light.

Like when they declared Chinese, Japanese, or literal Jews (!) as "honorary aryan".

For this exact reason many Nazis collaborated with American intelligence services, because they did not see them as the enemy anymore. The war had ended.

>rape
>bad

he's a sore loser. it's like people who quit before they can be killed in counterstrike, just to prevent someone else from getting the kill.

But they did flee and went on to live happily in argentina

Did you not read ALL CAPS's post? How could they ever lead a happy life in a world that does not bow to the nazi regime? How live, facing their defeat every day?

(Apparently they didn't mind too much. I wonder why...)

They hanged all of the Nazi higher-ups after the war. If they hanged von Ribbentrop, they were definitely going to hang him.

I hope none you actually believe that any of the caplock posts are actual Wehraboos. Just more shitposters meant to detract any discussion by making anyone who has any interest in the third reich as wackjobs.

Goebbels was most likely the only Nazi leader to actively egg on Hitler into committing to Barbarossa. Everyone else thought it was a horrible idea, and when Goering is begging the boss to at least finish the war with England first, something is going on.

Speer had made an observation that for months after the conquering of France, Hitler spent more and more time with Goebbels at his home at all hours and came back more and more radicalized in his hatred of Bolshevism (if that was at all possible).

I realize that Speer is hardly trustful, but given how regliously zealous Goebbels became to the theories presented in Mein Kampf, it is unsurprising that the second best people and First Toady of the Third Reich managed to convince Hitler to engage in the war in the east.

At the same time, there is something slightly commendable to Goebbels at the same time. While he believed in the weakness of Soviet character at first, when the shit hit the fan, he was the first Party member to stand next to Speer and say "Holy fuck, guys, we need to commit to Total War right fucking now." and never swayed from it for the duration of the war.

>They racemixed, they bestowed the title "honorary Aryan" amongst Japanese, Chinese, even Jews (!)
"honorary Aryan" is a propaganda term coined by the Allies. It is a rank that never existed in the Third Reich.