Why does nobody here like Subaru when they are the only company that has any true "driver's cars" for young people prices?
>base WRX has good power, AWD, manual only, minimal nanny systems and infotainment, good outward visibility, MPG 20 city 27 highway, 0-60 5.2 seconds, four doors for more whores, ok looking aesthetically but not a knockout >MSRP 28k >base BRZ has enough power, RWD, manual available, minimal nanny systems and infotainment, good visibility, MPG 21 city 29 highway, 0-60 6.1 seconds, two doors for classy whores, excellent looking aesthetically >MSRP 26k
Even ignoring these two great examples, Subaru has a great lineup overall of affordable sedans, wagons, and SUVs known for reliability and relative simplicity.
These are basically the best most overlooked cars on the Veeky Forums market.
Because the WRX costs less than the BRZ but is superior in every way. This shit is an outright insult to our intelligence. Where do they get off doing this?
Juan Ross
The WRX costs more though.
>This shit is an outright insult to our intelligence. Where do they get off doing this? Do you think the corporate bosses have a dart board of prices and just see what gets hit? It's all supply and demand plus prices of factors of production.
Owen Brooks
>in b4 head gaskets
To answer your question it is that it isnt that people don't like subaru, they dont like You-bru starting threads all the time just so you can validate to yourself that they are good cars. Maybe start an interesting subaru thread instead of "WHY DOENSNT EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGE SUBIE WITH MEEEE?!?! #184747" and you'll see.
Nicholas Phillips
Subaru are one of the most popular manufacturers on this board. People gripe about the brz and the latest stis sure but that's about it. Maybe it's the culture that the following exudes?
Bentley Bennett
I rarely ever see Subaru threads that aren't central to the 86-twin. And nobody here ever talks about the WRX aside from vape/snapback shitposting.
Everyone is too concerned with Burgerkingring laptimes and supercar shitposting to talk about anything they can afford. I thought I'd mix it up a little and make a Subaru thread.
So I check Germany and Belgium as they have way less taxation on cars: >33k for BRZ >42k for WRX STI
Guess I'm just a Europoor.
Ayden Perez
Poor nederlander. I'm American so those are my prices, I forgot to put dollar signs in my post.
How expensive is an M3 there? For comparison's sake.
Chase Thompson
>msrp 28k Yeah, because 28k is "young people" prices.
I can order myself a 2000 subbie that's jdmtyte fresh from japan for 10k, save me the other 18k for whores.
Aaron Collins
Subaru drivers ruin Subarus
Grayson Thomas
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Kayden Watson
I drive a Crosstrek and don't go to organic free range gluten free yoga
Camden Jenkins
€ 113.520,00 M3 coupe :(
But I could probably get a very nice older M3 for 50k euro's.
It's pretty sad because I know that I would never be able to afford a car like this as income taxes go up to 52% for everything you earn more than 52k a year.
Gabriel Mitchell
Those rims...that color....are you a nigger?
Jeremiah Young
....its a subaru dipshit
Gabriel Cook
I found out how the Subaru WRX STI becomes 90k in my country.
MSRP: €35.273 Tax: €7407 Special tax on cars and motor vehicles €45.633. This adds up to a total of 91k euro's.
Brayden Walker
thats pretty cuck
Brayden Walker
>45 thousand euros of tax
Connor Lewis
*a little bit over 53k euros on tax total :^)
Jeremiah Lee
>150% tax rate
Owen Morales
>An entire cheap house worth of tax
Ian Torres
>implying that importers are not niggers that scam autists like you.
sure go ahead kiddo.
Joseph Butler
because Boxer engines are complete shit, its a inherently poor design to have pistons sideways so oil can pool in one corner of the valve covers. nevermind ringland and headgasket issues. i was a mechanic for nearly a decade, any Subaru car that came in you could expect to at least see early HG issues and you would just spray off the leaking oil from the gasket with brake clean
the only Subaru i own and will ever own is a Sambar, theyre actually good and one of the better Kei trucks. whenever some kid in a GC8 or Forester flies by me giving thumbs up its partial cringe because i hate every other Subaru but Justy and Sambar lol
Elijah Perez
>Doesn't know about rotating the engine >I've been a mechanic for 10 years Skrublord, I bet you're lying. Also hating on the GC8 is TREASON.
Anthony Walker
Subaru fucked up when they didn't introduced pic related turbocharged. It was a mom car with STI style. It was the biggest disappointment in my adult life.
The Toyobaru is a reincarnation of the 2.5RS
Adam White
At least you can STI swap it.
Justin Collins
This, there you go a DIY STi coupe. You can now pretend your Bunta, have fun with the Cigarette bill.
Gabriel Allen
It's my dream once I have the money and time to buy a rusted out 20 year old scoob and STI bits. For ultimate shits and giggles, I'd jam a EG33 in it and do silly things to that.
Alexander Ortiz
You can swap it now. But you couldn't do it then.
But you're too young to know that.
Evan Martinez
I know that. STIs weren't in the US until 2004.
Easton Lee
The fanbase drags the cars down. They're either: -well off free range organic hippie lezbo/fag -vape nation snapback wearing retards -morons who think they're off roaders
Which one are you OP? Doesn't matter. You're all insufferable and should be gassed.
Jack Sanders
You're an idiot if you let any fanbase ruin a car for you
Gabriel Young
What about evo and civic fans?
Joseph Martinez
>what are the miata, fiata, challenger, charger, camaro, and mustang >implying people do not like Subaru
Lincoln Foster
Damn dude that's a steep price. In America a new M3 sedan runs $64k.
>It's pretty sad because I know that I would never be able to afford a car like this as income taxes go up to 52% for everything you earn more than 52k a year. That's the price you pay for having a large social program state. The government will pay for your medicine, education, etc. but it all comes out of your taxes and the higher incomes get taxed more.
I personally prefer the way we do it. I'd actually prefer lower taxes and lower social program spending but I'll take what I can get.
>Special tax on cars and motor vehicles >the "special tax" is more than the car itself Christ on the cross
Austin Gray
So what, I'd get an evo or an integra type r. I don't give a fuck who else owns one
Jayden King
Good on you. That's how I feel about Subarus.
Adam Brown
>>what are the miata, fiata, challenger, charger, camaro, and mustang
>Miata Entry level sports car much like the BRZ, good car for low price >Fiata See above but Fiat badged and slightly different tuned suspension and different engine >Challenger In the only respectable format (V8) out of entry level price range >Charger See above >Camaro See above (and the most glaringly expensive of them all, running nearly $40,000) >Mustang See above
Once you pass 30k you're heading into middle-manager salary prices which aren't available to most young people.
Camden Morris
I'm a rich yobbo with parents that bought me an STi. I study medicine and don't vape. Roast me, I double dog dare you.
Joseph Cook
>I double dog dare you. Aw shiet it's on now
Not him but I'll go first >parents bought your car
Jaxson Morris
I drive an old beater Subaru and it's treated me very well even though it has almost half a million km on it. I agree the vape-wagon fanbase and head gasket memes exist but you don't have to become that just from owning one. Drive whatever you enjoy.
Carson Thomas
Was honestly a surprise, I was content to drive my meme mobile around for a couple more years. I ain't gunna say no to a new car though.
Levi Perez
AYO HOL UP *blows headgasket YOU BE SAYIN *understeers FINNA *Burns oil WE BE LIKE *loses torque KNOWHAHIMSAYIN *Trunk sticks YO *Quarter panel rusts off WE WUZ RALLY AND SHEEIT
Cooper Morgan
Lucky you. I wouldn't say no either. In all fairness by dad offered to pay for half of my first car but I wanted it to be completely mine in both name and spirit. It was also only 1,500 dollars.
Luis Hill
crossposting newfag pls go and stay go
Logan James
It's a 100% tax rate though
Isaiah Johnson
Same I guess I'll just have to fit the stereotype now. I've kinda been avoiding letting my poorfag friends see my car, since they complain about being poor students all the time.
Hudson Morris
>7407+45633=53040
car is 35273
53040/35273=150.37~%
how do you even get 100% when even the "special tax" is over 100%
Parker Bennett
Top kek
Hudson Long
Merely pretending to be retarded. There was that thread a couple weeks ago, hundreds of replies arguing over what percent increase in drive wheels 4wd is over 2wd.
Carson Carter
fastback gt starts at 33k not like the 3k over is gonna break the bank
Joseph Morales
are you a lesbian though
Robert Nelson
As long as you don't act like an asshole by bringing up how great your car is and how much better it is than their shitboxes at every opportunity I wouldn't worry too much about it. Good friends would feel glad for you and maybe give you some shit about the stereotype if their gearheads.
Hunter Hughes
Lol I'm the moron thinks I'm an off roader
Isaac Kelly
If you live in a snowy state a Subru is just about the best type of car for safe driving because AWD + snow tires is maximum winter grip
Easton Scott
Great cars when looked after, too bad they usually never are. Been looking for a clean 2.5rs coupe for the last 6 months, if I can't find a decent example in the next 4 months I'll just settle with a CRZ for daily commuting
Cooper Lee
>This shit is an outright insult to our intelligence. SHUT YOUR MOUF
Matthew Mitchell
>/pol/ posting outside of /pol/
This should be an auto-ban offense on any board.
Nathaniel Peterson
Current BRZ owner here. The car is garbage. Don't fall for the 'it has enough power'. Butt mad owners just say that cause they don't want to admit they fell for the meme.
The transmissions are garbage and are failing left and right.
Jack Scott
>they don't want to admit they fell for the meme Says the guy that fell for the meme, how about some proper research before blindly buying cars
James Flores
I did my research, and test drove the car for almost 20 minutes. I made a conscious decision to buy the car despite the lack of power, because I wanted something disposable.
Isaiah Perez
>because I wanted something disposable Why the HECK did you not buy a 3k civic, and what transmission problems do you speak of
Jack Ramirez
>not turning your commute into a rally >not being the coolest kid in parking lots after snowstorms >being too poor to pay someone to remove snow in your driveway
Andrew Peterson
Old cars are not reliable.
Andrew White
>Old cars are not reliable A 3k civic would be alot more reliable than the "problematic" BRZ you have
Jacob Edwards
a Miata will outhandle and outlast a BRZ. they could both have headgasket problems and the Miata will still last longer
Aaron Peterson
>Bought a new car >Disposable
What.
Dylan Thompson
How do we know that? The BRZ hasn't been out long enough to shit on its reliability
Isaiah Murphy
He probably leased an automatic and wonders why it's aufully slow
Isaiah Moore
If you drive it like a bitch, then yeah it's slow. I thoroughly enjoy my BRZ in traffic and backroads.
Ethan Wood
I love my wrx. This board doesn't hate subies they just like to make fun of vapefags and lately it's been cool to shit on toyobarus because the 86 came out
Charles Jones
I paid cash for a manual.
Jayden Turner
So how is your transmission garbage and or falling apart?
Cameron Cook
Then put it in sport mode and recline it you faggot.
Liam Thomas
>>Internet badass thinks throttling the piss out of his high schoolers car makes him not a little bitch.
Luis Lewis
Spend 5 minutes on the forums. People are reporting failures as early as 17k miles.
People, including me, are reporting throw out bearing issues from day one.
Justin Anderson
>BRZ has enough enough power
What did they mean by this?
Jeremiah King
Maybe you shouldn't be launching the shit out of you're car to keep up with others at stoplights, either that or just poor shifting habits. Why have you not taken to dealer for warranty? Something is not right or you are leaving something out because TOB's don't go bad day 1 It does have enough power, unlike the Miata. It's just geared alot different
Elijah Brooks
No.
Austin Kelly
It started making noise within the first 500 miles. I have taken it to the dealer twice, and they 'don't hear it'.
Josiah Bell
>I have nothing better to say There user, was that so hard?
Austin Mitchell
You're just objectively wrong about it having enough power.
Isaiah Howard
Did you go on test drive with the technician? What is the sound like a rusty spring or like rattling cans? You're someone that has never driven one
Bentley Davis
No, it isnt the clutch pivot. Its either TOB or Input Shaft bearing.
I've demonstrated it to the tech. There is a clear and distinct noise difference (whirring) between clutch depressed & not at idle in neutral.
Ayden White
Did you get any sound out of it infront of the technician? You need to stop being a timid kid about it or go see another dealer that will actually help
Ryan Roberts
I remember this, lmao.
Austin Smith
I don't need to drive one. I'm sure they're plenty fun to drive. They just need a different engine and more power.
Imagine if Toyota and Subaru had either never partnered, and/or Subaru was actually willing to let the BRZ compete with WRX sales?
You can't say you wouldn't be overjoyed to hear the BRZtS was getting an FA20F or that the 86TRD would have something like a bigger 1.8L Supercharged engine the Yaris GRMN is getting?
Josiah Robinson
I would be happy with more power but I'm content with a good set of pilot supersports, hawk hps brakepads,UEL header and tune.
David Peterson
>It does have enough power, unlike the Miata. >Miata is faster than BRZ What did he mean by this?
Angel Rivera
How much do the headers and tune even give you? Modified cars are a whole other animal.
Landon Robinson
Did you read the rest of my post involving the gearing? Doesn't the miata hit 60 on second gear or some shit? Not sure I have not dyno'd it, I'd say a solid 20hp gain. Would have got Vortech supercharger to go with it but ended up getting an sti for different kind of enjoyment
Samuel Morgan
>Miata 0-60 5.8s >BRZ 0-60 6.1s (MT) 7.3s (AT)
Tyler Ortiz
That's actually good comparison, they're both equally slow.
Daniel Reyes
>Miata does it in 5.8 seconds
what model/power/engine etc? concerning how my Z4 is only .3s quicker.
Ethan Kelly
2016MY, 2.0L, 155hp
Anthony Russell
Parkers states 7 seconds for both the soft top and the RF. Where are you getting 5.8 from?
Austin Edwards
Car and Driver. 2015 model with the 1.5 did it in 7.I don't remember. Maybe they're measuring that one.
Jordan Price
the miata is faster, the 370z is a better GT car and le ameican mussle exist if you want to look like a failed normie