>first roll Warrior >hard as shit to solo something that's even one level above you >requires a lot of grouping to really be productive >really got into the whole "muh Vanilla" mindset since I had to take advantage of my mining/skinning to make good money for good gear/pots, and the secondary professions for good downtime heals >things still take forever though particularly due to said downtime even if reduced thanks to food/bandage
>then roll Warlock to see how it is >easy as shit to solo something four levels above (also managed to solo Vagash and Hogger at level 11) >grouping feels like a liability since things are so easy to solo so you're wasting xp from kills >don't really even need professions for money; mount is free as well >while not as quick at individual mob killing as a very well geared warrior, things still take less time due to non-existent downtime
Huh, I guess it kinda makes sense since Warlocks probably are the most social kinda people either. But shit Warlocks really do put a damper on the whole "Vanilla is hardcore" thing since it's easier to level than retail honestly and only gets easier as the game goes on unlike retail (fear, voidwalker, healthstone, soulstone, siphon life, etc etc) Makes me wonder why Warlock is the second least popular class on the server since it's probably the easiest to level up.
Reposting because new thread.
Gavin Powell
Because pets are usually fucking jank as hell on private servers, warlocks are super boring to play in raids, and they have really bad threat problems.
They're fun while leveling though
Jaxon Carter
Hey my fellow shamans
How is life treating you on the glorious horde?
Tell me, what are you: Grindan Critan Healan Memean (for you enhancement players)
Also shaman question of the day: What is your favorite troll tusk type?
Angel Wood
read the leveling guide in the OP, warriors are #1 in gear reliance
Parker Hernandez
>wow used to be hard!
t. someone who's never played a real rpg before
Blake James
The guide is shit. Warriors are bad because that's what they are not because of "gear reliance." And no it doesn't get better at 60.
Landon Taylor
Because no matter what you do you will just be a bad mage that also has to cast to do well in group pvp, while mages just spam instants. Shard farming is the worst thing in the world.
Gabriel Rivera
>the reason most people play Warrior, Rogue, Mage is because warlocks suck at endgame!
Evan Hughes
>is the only level 60 warrior in the guild >has the opportunity to single handedly lead SD into greatness >deserts to Reddit guild because is too impatient to wait a few weeks until the recruits can reach 60 I never liked Trux anyway.
Leo Davis
about to start doing dungeons on my druid alt, how to tank? precast hot's and spam swipe?
Matthew Campbell
I don't blame him honesty, if you want to raid then you have to do it ASAP on Elysium because of ow fast the population is dying.
There's no guarantee that SD people would stay around in a few weeks with all of these shitty private servers coming out that will lead people away
Ian Walker
There were shitton of warlocks at the start, voidwalkers were everywhere, most just dropped after first few bgs, when they realised how actually useless they are in their shit gear with 2k hp and even before that most dropped after their first rogue encounter. Also fear being broken as shit didn't help warlock population at all.
Jason Gray
>Because pets are usually fucking jank as hell on private servers Is this a thing that happens often? No big problems for me so far.
>warlocks are super boring to play in raids Mages are the second most popular class, and their raid rotation is even simpler than Locks, no?
It's what I have been thinking so far. Not sure how this got popular.
Maybe it's because our little guide up there hasn't so far (at least for me so far) been exactly accurate, but based on that, and what some others have said, are Locks not better than Mages at PvP? Not to mention that the big three DoTs (Corruption, COA, Siphon Life) are all instants as well.
Connor Carter
>fear being broken as shit didn't help warlock population at all
Yeah the game gets boring fast when you're fearing people for 20 seconds at a time without it breaking even long after they're dead, I would quit too.
Juan Gomez
>are Locks not better than Mages at PvP
If only you knew how bad things really are...
Ryan Carter
> are Locks not better than Mages at PvP No not at all. If I were to pick premade setup there would be room for only one warlock being trashbuff/soulstone/cot bot. Most likely spec him demo so healers can ignore him. > Not to mention that the big three DoTs Corruption immo sl gets dispelled almost instantly even by shit pugs. They do no damage. Lad, go play a warlock and tell me how good fear actually is.
>leveling new warrior >recommended talent spec doesn't take blood craze
Wait, why? You're already sitting to proc Enrage, why not get free regen out of it too?
And is MS really worth losing Enrage when you could use Slam instead?
John Ramirez
>If I were to pick premade setup
Good thing you're not in a position to do that since there are no premades at level 30 something.
Wyatt Miller
arms is worth it. every 30 seconds you can kill 2 mobs at once easy. mortal strike is VERY good as well. also you can actually pvp as arms with tactical mastery. fury pvp is just suffering
Blake Allen
>read a recommended guide by /v/ >it's shit
l-lol??
Carson Green
Ah I see your knowledge is showing. Well newsflash for you, most alliance premades run with 1 warlock at best and they put him to guard some shitty base, cause he's fucking useless trash class that can't do any good at anything besides standing at lm/gm.
Ayden Flores
He joined the reddit guild.
Cameron Watson
I'm sure this is the real reason why the warlock class is underpopulated. Everyone knows the demise pug farming meta is to stack Mages and only take 1 warlock.
Juan Turner
can I start shitposting now?
Jace Perez
Corruption and CoA do 2k damage alone at 60. Warlock is fucking busted. Not to mention all the utility you get from either succ or vw. Warlock is easily the best 1v2 class and the 2nd best 1v1 class.
David Morales
Maybe, but with Fury you get better sustain with BC and a huge free damage boost with Enrage. Bloodthirst's heal seems worthless but faster Slams seems decent.
MS hits hard sure, but it has a longish cooldown and I don't know if it's worth losing that passive damage bonus.
Logan Jenkins
Its the only real reason. Warlocks are shit at endgame. People realise this and roll something else. Stop pretending to know better cause you don't. If only you knew how many warlocks whispered me asking if its as bad for me as it is for them.
Josiah Sullivan
do NOT ue any of those specs or the item docs. most of that shit is wrong intentionally.
Easton Russell
What bracket is best for a warlock twink?
Hunter Jones
Us Warlocks have it pretty tough... If it weren't for my extreme skill and gear I would never beat absolutely everyone absolutely all of the time.
Eli Bennett
The Priest one is fairly accurate, but yeah, they seem pretty bad. I was using a warrior specific guide anyway and thought it was weird in the sticky that it was so wrong.
Kevin Hernandez
How new is the population in elysium? Everyone seems to know more about the game and when I join a group I'm just following people around trying to not be a useless piece of shit, however whenever I attack someone I win above half of the time, you gotta be really shitty to die to a newfag leveling his first character ever.
Zachary Cruz
if you honestly think warriors don't have a gear reliance problem you're absolutely retarded
Blake Powell
Surprising amount of people that (at least seem like they) have never played wow before.
Protip, bind a and d to strafe. Don't be a keyboard-turning retard, it's the easiest way to spot a free kill.
Jace Morris
I want to orc these bitches
Blake Morales
lots of people are new, lots are old players
source: my asshole
Isaac Ortiz
>MS cooldown is too long
lad...
Justin Ramirez
>bind a and d to strafe. Not the first time I've read this, I'm starting to think that it might actually be good advice.
The idea is to free Q and E for MOAR HOTKEYS, right?
Sebastian Thomas
That plus turning with your keys is useless and super slow compared to using your mouse to move the camera
John Harris
They don't. Warriors are just bad, any other class benefits from gear just as much if not more.
Brody Brown
No, I got caught by surprise by stoneform, sprinted off, restealthed and killed him. Then someone requested a screenshot so I killed him again and took one. And I wasnt raging, simply wanted to confirm that its intended that you can activate it while being blinded instead of being immune to blind when activating it before. And if you need a crutch as a warrior to kill rogues you should probably just uninstall.
Why would I give you my name? His name was Whitebeer tho.
Zachary Ramirez
>Rogues are easy for Warriors
lol
Cameron Ross
No, you can already have qe open for more keys because you're still not keyboard turning when you hold right click for movement as people that bind strafe have to do as well. But they're forced to use two hands, you still have the ability to jerk off while autorunning if you so desire.
Jacob Bennett
What is the reddit-guild?
Jason Young
We are not talking about lvl 30, friend.
Carson Miller
>Right click for movement. Literally what? Why? Left+right click for running is binded by default, that plus W plus autorun works as good as needed, why would anyone change that? I see no purpose.
Luis Morgan
I either walk with right+left mouse button, holding down W+right mosue or ^ for autowalk.
Jonathan Gomez
>Left+right click for running is binded by default So do you unbind W as well?
David Johnson
You don't change it you doof. Right click let's you turn your character as fast as you can move your mouse.
Brayden Price
Yes?
Zachary Phillips
I don't think that's a good idea nor was that what I meant.
Yeah I understand that, it seemed like the user was saying that right click should be bound to running which didn't seem logical.
Ian Wood
is the thread....dying??
Daniel Howard
Haha bro it's Saturday night we're having a night out haha
Brayden Williams
So alliance has better 60 premades and horde has a better pvp lvling experience?
Alliance is better at taking orc dick and Horde is better at games, better at life?
Xavier Edwards
repost fuck you
we try problem is you want us to be around 24/7 watching bgs all day long? got more important shit to do than babysit bgs when all the reports look like this
'giganticfag is afk in bgs, please ban'
wtf that's worthless, send me a fucking screenshot of them staring at the mountain in a corner or something
Brayden Allen
I don't get it
Caleb Bell
Going afk is a natural response when facing premades. They just want the game to end quickly because they know they won't get any honor points anyway. Why would that be bannable? I understand if it's a rogue or druid that stealth afk's near objectives all game however.
Nicholas Watson
holy shit is elyisum team gms really here?
Adam Nguyen
wouldn't surprise me since shenna posts here sometimes
Christian Garcia
Of course we lurk, retard.
Luis Cooper
...
Lucas Taylor
please stop muting me in game for hours at a time., its really annoying to talk to my guildys in /dnd messages
Bentley Barnes
fix bug where you disconnect when you ceblock fear
Jacob Allen
Jazzl has been plaguing pvp for months, maybe even a year in total now, trying to get R14, he's been breaking brackets forever and gotten himself blacklisten from premades, this week, he managed to beat everyone and grab standing 1, pretty sad really that pvp community just doesnt give him a slot and be done with him... sad thing is that he got to like R13 50% or something, and got banned for a week and got decayed like crazy
kronos gms were also in /krog/ some were retarded and had this mindset of 'Veeky Forums is le evil' too, banning for that
Carter Martin
I'm a lock and have been following the stickied guide to the letter for 29 levels. It seems to be working alright but that might just be because warlock leveling is pretty hard to fuck up, is there a more efficent build?
Ethan Brooks
gear reliance =/= gear benefit
confirmed retarded
Eli Miller
>guide by barrymanalow he didn't make it to 60 lmao
Xavier Rivera
wow all that for r14 as a non-warrior/rogue...
Ayden Ramirez
One, two, Zekrum's coming for you.
Three, four, better flare the door.
Five, six, he hits with Improved Kicks.
Seven, eight, Gotta stay up late.
Nine, ten, Horde win again....
Elijah Rogers
>blacklisten from premades
Absolutely devastated.
Ryder Ortiz
Are you fucking stupid mate?
Logan Jones
Post your macros
Grayson Jones
>Veeky Forums is le evil
This pretty much, any server is better off just banning anyone that joins a Veeky Forums guild. It's not like anyone is going to miss them.
Gabriel Morales
ill miss you
David Lewis
Did trux leave?? :'(( mfw saddest day of my life
Parker Evans
Is there a better leveling spec than the suggested one? All others I've found say to go demonology after getting impproved drain soul.
Jack Morris
>~~ so sorry ~~~~ i am so stupid person ~~~~ why do they do this literally nothing happened for him to say this and what is this ~~~~ shit and why am ieven trying to socialize with a chinaman in the first place
Jacob Green
He quit the guild apparently, surprised he stayed that long desu
Justin Howard
i dont know shit bout locks, ask ingame people
Brody Young
>I don't actually play the game just shitpost lol
t. 99% of the people that post here
Lincoln Ramirez
>tfw you thought things are about to get better
that's the final nail in the coffin for salty dogs I guess
Luis Carter
read again
Brandon Parker
Go make a theoretical demonology spec and ask yourself if anything you'd be speccing into would significantly improve your leveling experience.
Ethan Davis
lvl 55 water quest starts at 60 or is it possible do to it earlier?
Matthew Brown
rolled an alliance warlock, am I gonna regret it vs all undeads?
Justin Garcia
when you level yes, once you got geared shouldnt matter that much anymore
Ayden Russell
Whats so broken about Fear ? The crazy Pathing that makes People run a Marathon or does it break to fast ?