>Spyral Sleeper Cannot be normal summoned or set. Must be special summoned (From your hand) by banishing (2)? SPYRAL cards from your graveyard and cannot be special summoned by other ways. Once per turn, during either player's turn, you can target 1 SPYRAL card you control and up to 2 cards your opponent controls; destroy them. If this card on the field is destroyed by battle or card effect and sent to the graveyard: destroy as many cards you control as possible, and if you do, Special Summon one Spyral Super Agent from your Hand, Deck or graveyard
Michael Diaz
Whats the most special summons you guys have gotten in one turn with the new fusion substitute zoos? I just got to a max of 29, not sure if I can get 6 more to be able to take on maxx c challenge
Adrian Robinson
are any of the subterrors in their has anyone found them yet? please any information would be appreciated.
Ethan Kelly
>ready to make new thread with fixed OP. >captcha fucked up and someone beat me to it Welp. Reminder next OP then.
So apparently if we're not getting Subterrors revealed, they're higher rarity.
Samuel Howard
Or lower
Grayson Anderson
i swear to fuck if they secret all my subterrors again, then make them tier 1 somehow they'll be a bagillion dollars to pickup the new ones, please just ultra them
Matthew Hill
all other Fairy Tails are short print, make the newest one a super
ok
Hunter Campbell
>subpar-terrors >tier 1
John Moore
My bad, if you're gonna try to do that you should announce it at like 50-posts in. Also, >not having a pass for EZ new threads, even on mobile
Brody Jenkins
Stranger thing have happened.
Nicholas Watson
I don't understand this card. The quick effect is a nice addition, alright, but the risk is just too great. Like, if your opponent chain GOSR, then everything explodes, just for a single Super Agent pop.
Joshua Russell
Well, maybe next time. The thread is rather slow until the leak so I thought I don't really need to announce it.
>having Veeky Forums pass Nah, not really worth the effort.
Ethan Myers
I assume the thought process was multiple cards either get benefits on being destroyed (Charming Resort Staff/Master Plan) or like being in the grave (Recapture and Assault) plus work with some unrevealed cards in the pack and triggers Agent's MST effect. It's an incredibly dumb and stupid reason that causes more harm than it's worth, but I assume that is what they had in mind.
Gavin Nguyen
What are the most expensive cards I need to buy for true king Dino's?
Andrew Brooks
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Blake Russell
How about you stop being a massive cunt and just update it yourself? It's mentioned in every fucking thread that it needs updating. If you make a new thread then it's your responsibility to make sure the OP isn't shit or outdated.
Logan Rogers
"somehow" they could make em tier 2 with some really strong support i just want a nemesis handtrap that when your opponent activates an effect you can dump it, flip all set cards up, and all faceup subterrors are unaffected by card effects or some shit. They just need solid protection and a good way to flip up to surprise your opponent. that would easily make them tier 2 if not one.
Logan Bell
Dragonic diagram was common in japan But knowing tcg that shits gonna be ghost rare only in tcg, with a 1 in a trillion chance of pulling it cause tcg is run by fucking faggots.
Adrian Sanchez
I am trying to. What I mean by next time is that I'll make the thread next time.
I've been trying to for a while but the timing is never right.
Chase Scott
>I just want an absolutely ridiculous card
Go away CaC Shitter
Gabriel Mitchell
>running that thing in draco format PURE MADMAN IM GONNA LOSE EDITION
Jaxson Davis
Oh, sorry, I was meaning to reply to the other guy that made this thread. I know you're trying to do the right thing, user :)
Gavin Lee
They just need more ways to put subterrors on the field while plussing
Jayden Martinez
Several times theyve printed retarded cards that made decks tier one, you new to fucking yugioh? You legit can just toss it up to it never happening
Lucas Price
either let them flood or keep their current takes a turn or two to setup but have insane protection.
Jack Diaz
>implying 1 card can save subterrors They were doomed the moment they gave them a flip effect in this day and age. They're better off just fucking scrapping SPYRAL and subterrors, waste of cardboard.
Ian Reed
I prefer something that can flip-up the Subterror that isn't Decoy Dragon tier.
Lincoln Martin
So now that the TCG meta is going to be paleofrogs, kings/dino kings, invoked WW feat. artifacts and what's left of the mostly untouched zoodiac engine .dek what are some good cards to side against them? I'm particularly interested on things that fuck paleofrogs over as my locals is full of people using it.
Wyatt Rogers
What's next, Ritual can never be good ever?
Austin Moore
were moving into a slower format when links comeout plus the other 3 cards could help too, and the card i mentioned would give their effects a chance to go off on opponents turn/
Thomas Moore
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Jason Jackson
Fuck yeah man A flip effect FUSION deck? Confirmed GARBAGE
Oliver Johnson
How do you think a character deck should be made? Using anime cards, tcg/ocg cards, multiples copies, anime or manga only, outside archetypal support, outside support in general?
Matthew Rivera
I always imagined something like ygo4realmen's drill warrior.dek would be something yusei would use
Nathaniel Davis
tcg/ocg cards, and has to consist of at least 16 archetypal cards and the rest of the deck needs to be complimenting the usage of those cards as opposed to using them as an engine for something else
Evan Phillips
>Being this mad over Subpars Please read, I said in this day and age. Where are shaddolls/fip effect monsters at in todays meta?
>were moving into a slower format when links comeout >People still believe this
Nicholas Bell
come on guys hes clearly new to yugioh and fucking retarded, he thinks komoney has never printed a singular super retarded card that hasnt made a deck retarded! hes adorable! let alone komoney printing 6 retarded cards like the d rulers and babies! its almost like hes just gotten into yugioh and just spews stupid shit to sound intelligent cause he hates subterrors for no good reason!
Nicholas Evans
>Where are shaddolls/fip effect monsters at in todays meta? Banned. #ReconstructConstruct
Kayden Stewart
A great character deck should be one that devotes 62.5% of the cards in the deck either related to the archetype directly, or to the ace monster directly, with the rest being meta.. (So, 25 cards in a 40-card deck, 38 cards in a 60-card deck.) The deck must use TCG/OCG cards, and must be banlist appropriate. If it uses a side deck, the 62.5% ratio must be maintained with the total cards. (So 34 cards out of 55, and 47 out of 75 cards.)
Dylan Gomez
Try to find the focus of the deck and go from there. Protags decks tend to be all over the fucking place. Like for a Yusei deck it should either be Stardust focused or it should be focused on a handful of the warriors.
Luis Cooper
its almost like they banned construct, but that would involve doing research, and thats hard to look at the banlist isnt it little timmy! maybe when you've played the game for more then a month you can have good input timmy!
James Stewart
If anything, they need cards that compensate their passive playstyle. To be specific, more disruptive Behemoths like Umastryx and a Nemesis that can flip them during your opponent's turn or SS Behemoths from the grave.
Having to rely on a bricky ritual engine is pretty terrible tbqh I hate this mentality. Konami can make any strategy meta by overcompensating them (Pendulums, Rituals etc) Shaddolls were known more as a Fusion/grave-based deck (who splashes light engines) than a flip deck.
Also look at all these retards! using shadolls in 2017 amiright! yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Shaddoll whole heartedly you're clearly new, don't understand anything, and have never seen komoney randomly print stupidly good cards that make decks people thought as garbage to tier 1. It happens all the fucking time, if you actually knew anything you'd know this. I'd advise just shutting up and lurking till you learn this, or leaving. multiple people are telling you you're retarded, its cause you are.
Brody Price
You are right, look what happened the last time TCG tried to fix a poorly designed deck with one card. It totally broke the game.
Joseph Perez
FINALLY! YES!!!
Ethan Ortiz
Holy fucking christ at long last. I'm glad it's only a super as well so it'll be pretty cheap to get.
Ryan Hughes
Didn't say it works everytime did i little timmy, i said they do it sometimes, and randomly. But reading comprehension is something you learn in middle school so i wont tap your wrist too hard for that little timmy!
>Shaddolls were known more as a Fusion/grave-based deck (who splashes light engines) than a flip deck. Doesn't change the fact that most of their MD monster, fuck Zefra, is a FLIP monster. Just because a deck mostly consist of a flip monster doesn't mean that they will always be bad.
Austin Cruz
>its almost like they banned construct So you are agreeing with me that shaddolls and flip effect mosnters are not in todays meta like I stated, correct?
Shit, I don't know if this is sarcasm and you're agreeing with me or not.
>I say that shaddolls are no longer meta >Shows me a list where shaddolls are non-meta Thank you for proving my point
Kayden Bennett
I'm still calling him V.F.D.
Hunter Martinez
That has to be fake holy shit that deviant art tier name my sides. also hes only fucking super komoney didnt print him in hyper ultra secret ghost tech rare to force out the cash from true dino players?
Hunter Murphy
>True King >True Dracombatant "True Draco" or "True King" card then? Great insight, KoA.
>inb4 True King =/= True Draco in TCG
Asher Hall
Secret Diagram
Isaiah Hall
It's like saying Spellbook is bad.
Wyatt Baker
>Snow >Sleeper >Rella >Luna Stop! Yes I am mad. These names are crap!
Jose Anderson
Mozzarella is the only shit one.
David Martin
SPYRAL Sleeper Level 8 LIGHT Fiend-Type Effect Monster ATK 2800 DEF 1200 Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 3 “SPYRAL” cards from your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. Once per turn, during either player’s turn: You can target 1 “SPYRAL” card you control and up to 2 cards your opponent controls; destroy them. If this card on the field is destroyed by battle or card effect and sent to the Graveyard: Destroy as many cards you control as possible, and if you do, Special Summon 1 “SPYRAL Super Agent” from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard.
So if this thing is going to die, you can just chain his effect targetting him and pop 2 cards, and a possible third with Super Agent.
Angel Adams
>i said they do it sometimes TCG did it 0 times.
Bentley Harris
>list has tourney wins from last month ? you're clearly a troll or unironically this retarded so im not gonna waste my time on you, if they do print a card that makes subterrors completely broken ill laugh and remember your dumbass, if they don't ill just enjoy them as my petdeck for the time being anyways. Enjoy being proven wrong by a ton of people and continue to be retarded on a childs card game general.
Luis Collins
Have their been any cards with name changes that were actually decent?
Samuel Mitchell
i knew they'd jew somewhere tewart never fails to make everyone hate him
Xavier Hughes
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Joshua Peterson
>If this card on the field is destroyed by battle or card effect and sent to the Graveyard: Destroy as many cards you control as possible Why do they force these completely unnecessary punishments? Spyrals weren't going to be meta anyway.
Christopher Brooks
Resort give your monster a relevant protection, so you should not have to worry much about your monster dies on opponent's turn anyway. Now, blowing your field is a much bigger concern.
Logan Reed
I never stated that shaddolls were bad, I stated that they are no longer meta which they aren't.
>list has tourney wins from last month >All shaddoll list are either top 8 or top 16 >Last time shaddolls got 1st place was July 2015
Dylan Miller
No, you're saying anything with FLIP is inherently bad.
Dominic Brooks
Flip? More like FLOP lmao
Jonathan Rivera
Like I said In this day and age
Easton James
>Charming Resort Staff >Resort maintenance cost >temporary Mission >SPYGAL >Sleeper mandatory blow your field It's like Konami doesn't want them to be good.
Adam Perry
The current strongest monster in the game is a two tribute main deck boss. For something more TCG-specific, just look at how long Burning Abyss and Dante lasted.
Don't underestimate Konami's ability to make literally anything good if they actively choose to. If something is bad or subpar, they chose to make them that way to appeal to the casual crowd. If they want it to be meta, it'll be meta.
Jordan Garcia
what im saying is that they managed top 8s or top 16s while significantly neutered, they have a card on the banlist and with it off they'd still be topping.
Asher Adams
Fucking newfag. It's not even THAT long since DUEA.
Julian Lopez
its like talking to a wall he doesn't listen to reason. Hes clearly new so just let him be ignorant.
Lincoln Sullivan
Should be in a hierarchy of:
Anime > Manga > Vidya > TCG/OCG support >>>>>>>>> outside support Multiple copies should be used at your discretion, and only if a deck is literal shit without multiples (Dark Magician, Red-Eyes, etc.)
Character dicks should strive to consistently pull off the character's ace monsters/strategy using their available cardpool, without resorting to shit that's obviously not a part of their theme.
Landon Lewis
Again so they are not meta
You're right, we'll have to wait and see
>It's not even THAT long since DUEA. You're right too, I'm using a poor choice of words to measure time. I should say in the current meta.
Dylan Baker
>starts to admit hes wrong >starting to recognize everyone in the threads calling him out for being retarded smug.png
Carter Anderson
Personally I draw only from cards they themselves have used (no matter what point in the show), with this guy's hierarchy in mind. Anime is generally enough but manga can be useful to throw in too, especially since those fuckboy Jack players always run HRD Bane and Abyss.
Yuya.dek is particularly fun to play like this.
Brandon Thomas
I still would have rather prefered a Meteor Black Dragon retrain then a new monster thats a gemini
William Gomez
SUPERS Zefraath Metaltron XII, The True Dracombatant SPYRAL Sleeper True King of All Calamities Sylvan Princessprite Fairy Tail Lyrical Lusc - Tyrant Neptune Fodder Pendulumucho
That's 8/14 Supers.
We still might get 6 more reveals.
Levi Cox
>Pendulumucho >Fairy Tail - luna >not short prints
why
Sebastian Murphy
But it does happen. You get Meteor Black Dragon retrain, then a new gemini monster.
Julian Cox
Oh. I had completely forgotten this thing existed honestly.
Nolan Gomez
It's like, the best RE Fusion, how could you forget it, man.
Jace Moore
Should I buy Lightsworns now that Minerva is getting a reprint?
Grayson Williams
The cards will only get more expensive since now everyone can play it without a $1k debt.
John Taylor
Will it though? The deck is still mediocre even with Minerva, so the hype may fade quickly.
Jackson Myers
Stop posting Kuroinu for fuck sake!
Justin Cox
>implying TCG make that card(s)
Samuel Mitchell
Even though it was very minor, I love the "The" they added to all the Phantom knight monsters (sounds very oldish). Some recent name changes I enjoyed were: >Pot of Desire >ShogunSaga >FullmetalfoesFusion >Crystolic Potential Yes 2 Lightsworn builds made it to top 16 RN so I really wouldn't call the deck mediocre.
Austin Perry
>Lightsworn builds Is it noid?
Nathan Gray
If you believe the anti-hype of Links killing off the Extra Deck, Judgment Dragon might once again become the King of Cheese.
Christopher Brown
>tfw price of the SDs have already gone up from where they were a month ago
Ethan Baker
I am expecting the final Spyral Gear spell card to be something like a machine dupe for the archetype, and if that is the case then Spyral will be insanely good because opening resort and this/any way to make this is dumb.