EVE Online general /eog/

Both of these questions are complicated to answer as it depends what you want to do in the game. I will say as a whole design wise, I don't think the game is on a decline. The game has been shittier in the past certainly.

>Is it something you can play passively on the side while doing something else most of the time?

You get out of EVE what you put into EVE. You can just log in every now and then and go on fleets, you can log in every now and then and do missions, or log in every now and then and explore. However "playing" EVE is kind of a misconception. In WoW or some other MMO once you clear the expansions content you've "played" the expansion. You do dailies and grind gear in order to make your character more powerful etc. In EVE you are either logged in doing stuff or you aren't and that's really up to you. Can you have fun in EVE without making a lot of commitments? Certainly! Can you compete in EVE without making a lot of commitments? No.

You can't compete in mining. You can't compete in the market. You certainly can't compete in claiming territory. You probably can't hold a wormhole. You can't accomplish things in EVE unless you're outpacing or outsmarting other players. (except missions, they basically have zero community interaction and are broken content)

>Also is the game in a state of decline?

The game goes through high points and low points. Its like the real world, stuff can escalate very quickly, or it can lull in a state of relative piece for long timelengths. On an individual content scale, there is always content if you go out and start shit.

had to disable a plugin to amarrpost

How do I join Oruze?

Do dolphins breath air? OR DO THEY BREATH WATER?

So The Marmite Collective declared war on my high sec industrial corp. Think there's a chance they'll try to kill our pos?

Nah, they normally only shoot stuff taking gates.

Marmite only shoot things that don't shoot back.

What is considered committed?
Like do I need to put in 12 hours a day to be semi-competitive? or is it something you can give an initial burst at and play a few hours a day and be competitive?

>How do I join Oruze?

zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/reset/group/365/losses/

It's air bud, they're mammals.

For real though, I can't remember if they had a pub for recruiting or not.

Is joining Brave Collective a good idea?

You set defense timers on systems and citadels on when they will be vulnerable. They need to be vulnerable for a certain amount of time depending on the size of the structure, I'm not sure if systems have different defense timers. Theres a weekly amount of time, I think you can have all your time in one day, or you can spread it out around your schedule.

Essentially the timers dictate timeslots when people log in to fuck with your shit so they know when they need to be ready to assemble their fleets and when you need to assemble your fleets. Typically the primary "commitment in EVE is a mental/social commitment. In order to compete in EVE you need to play with other people.

You can play EVE with it being a normal life priority that you would expect out of a hobby. HOWEVER, EVE can be unfun at times, its work sometimes, you'll deal with shit you don't want to deal with and in order to compete you need to still be able to log in and do shit when you don't want to.

If you're flaky you might as well just fuck off.

your group having a structure timer doesn't mean everyone has to log in

They get farmed 24/7 and recently got their asses handed by PL.

Now they hold shitty space that TEST didn't want.

Is there any point in switching to a frigate/destroyer when doing my level I epic arcs, or should I just stick with a Battleship for all level 1-4 missions?

you should be using a machariel with hyperspatial rigs and accelerators

it's probably faster in a destroyer

Is this game ded?

eh
not really, it's doing alright
could definitely be better though

Is it worth getting into at this time?

Not him, but I just started playing a week ago and I'm having fun

yeah, it's always worth
EVE is one of those games where things take time, a lot of newbros look at someone with a carrier, billions of isk, and tons of fancy mods and then get's all discouraged

but he doesn't see the years of SP training, ratting, grinding, mistakes, and learning that the veteran player has gone through

go get a referral from someone (either here or leddit) and you'll get 250,000 SP to help start your journey (it's actually a fairly big chunk) and go through the tutorial

Summer update when?

summer?

How do I get PvP in null?

I'm interested in small gang shit, but the only things happening near my corp seem to be massive fleets, which are mind-numbingly boring. I just want to roam with a small gang and blap shit but no one seems interested.

Join Dronelands today! Cheap rent systems, quiet ratting space. Comrade xXDEATHXx wants your money!

Depends on your alliance, probably. Some have specific ingame channels for that, others have sigs and private chat rooms and others just have corps dedicated to that within the alliance.

>Memelands

>quiet ratting space

cyka plz

>give orbit at 3 km command around immobile structure
>ship is orbiting at 4.9 km
>try to orbit 500m around small structure
>1300m orbit

the fuck is up with this shit

does it bother you

you have terrible agility and can't turn fast enough with your prop mod on

>Some have specific ingame channels for that, others have sigs and private chat rooms and others just have corps dedicated to that within the alliance.

This is the only way I've found of getting any kind of small gang pvp in nullsec. Don't wait for publicly announced fleets, that's just the necessary bullshit to keep your shit safe. It's hilarious if you can get into a group that actually lives in hostile areas, just to fuck around with the locals.

>mfw guy tries to cyno but doesn't realize that there's cyno jammers up

It's a frigate. Prop mod is off.

>you have terrible agility
See above

kys maqiri

I'd rather not be food for fleet ops

>tfw don't know what to skill into next because everything's either too shit, too expensive or too time-consuming

max out any race's cruise, except caldari

Gallente
>Vexor
>Vexor Navy Issue
>Thorax
>Exeq Navy Issue
all fun as fuck to fly

Amarr
>Omen
>Omen Navy Issue (kitey dps platform)
>Maller (stupid tanky, semi brawler thing)
>Arbitrator (weapon disruption is stupidly underestimated in small gangs)
>Augoror Navy Issue (for meme tank)

Minmatar
>Scythe Fleet Issue (channel zarvox!)
>Rupture can be okay
>Stabber is best frigate in the game
>with Heavy Assault Cruisers lets you fly Vagabond which is actually the most fun ship to fly in the game

don't train caldari because all you have are pretty much
>rlml caracal (boring as fuck)
>blaster moa (the shield brawling meme ship)

>too expensive
What is too expensive?

ITT: Ideas that would cause complete and utter chaos
>Once per week, a randomly determined accessible K-space system is designated a "Galactic Nexus"
>Plex and skill injectors used in a station in this system have 20% more effect, when used for sub time or skill points (Skill injectors used by Plex cannot be redeemed on a character within a few jumps and must be flown in
>This system changes at the end of each week

>50 replies
>page 9

Why is this general so dead?

People are trying to avoid interacting with Australians.

Vexor or Algos for runing level 1 and 2 missions?

PLEX vault instantly kills that.

Large 'Sheriff' Shield Extender

Wait..looking at production skills, none of them affect material efficiency. So as long as I have production slots and a good place to build, I can buy minerals and build anything competitively?

>neet for 4 months
>burning through my savings
>can't afford to buy plex on a whim
This is awful

Competitively changes over night.
You need to be able to produce quickly to make the most of market gaps, otherwise you get to the party too late to make any isk.

Also, you had better have some 10/10 BPOs

>tfw fell for ratting rattle meme (drone horde)
>or maybe im retarded(i mean i am, but maybe i even more retarded than i though)
>Got myself a RHML rattle, 1200 dps (1000 with reload) with target painter
>only good damage againts cruisers
>takes 20-24 heavy missiles to kill a BS
>gecko does all the damage
>basically VNI that doesn't require focusing rats, but also shit.
>Basically a dominix, but also expensive
>took 3k missiles with me, lasted 1.5 sites
Did i retarded? Should i try using cruises or maybe torpedoes with 2-3 painters and omnilink for gecko to kill frigs? Then i will have no tank...hmm.. what do? Or do rats have that high thermal resist, i used inferno because i "calculated" that they will deal more damage even if diffirence of em\therm resist is 20%

how am I supposed to make money
running missions and exploration is boring as hell and I am too retarded to play the market

can't I just have a space farm and sell wheat

Live in a wormhole and farm sites there.

>can't I just have a space farm and sell wheat
Thats basically what PI is. You'll never do anything beyond paying the monthly plex with it though.

>Go to a ghost site
>Forget that the cans explode hard enough to 1-shot a frigate
Brb killing myself

please respond

is this game pay to win?

Interesting, thanks.

There's no "winning" in this game, so no.

noob here
the destroyer (algos) is extremely good vs frigates so I guess that
I don't remember what kind of enemies there are in level 2 missions but you should do fine

>doing l2-l3 missions
>not just grinding lvl 1 untill you can lvl4

you can't run lvl4s on an alpha

not with that attitude.

Is there skill involved?

What are COSMOS missions? I know they're used to get standings, and that the name means "space", but why were they added?

Is autism a skill?

sometimes
but usually no

use cruise missiles

Depends on what you're doing and the situation. Fair fights arent common.

it's pretty much a strategy game played from the perspective of a single unit

>new rupture model
>it's still a shitty fat triangle

>not loving fat triangles

Sortof. Experience and knowledge are more important than mechanical skill because most fights are decided before the engagement.

There are some skill intensive ships, but RLML also exist and they are a hard counter to them.

>afk rat
>in a snake
>get 20m ticks and salvage on the spot
Why didn't i do this sooner

Because you will eventually go afk in a rattle and come back to a pod in a station.

Nah, I look at Intel every so often

>afk snake
>salvage on spot
How? FoF cruises? My MTU can't even collect all wrecks in 30 minutes

From what I vaguely remember, you can make a bot that reads input and gives you a sound warning if an intel channel reports anything within your surrounding few systems.

You should probably go get that.

>salvage on the spot

what? how?

>intel chat doesn't say anything
>intel chat says something too late
>you tab into game to see your rattle webbed and scrobbled by 4 rats
>ganker's face when

I'm going to take a guess and say he uses heavy drones to kill rats and has salvagers in the highs.

Tabs out to his favourite gay porn website so the drones can do work on their own and just salvages wrecks every few minutes when he tabs back in.

Intel bots are pretty punctual, user. Comes with being an automated text processing machine.

>salvagers in high
This makes more sense than using salvage drones...still though, why not use a dominix then?
Bots are punctual, people who report in intel are not. Or we have bots that auto report neuts now?

Can you help with fit? I thought i could be just warp in 0 and brawl like that...but with cruises i guess i have to use centries and mjd.

I remember there used to be something to do with data cores that could be done monthly for passive cash? Did they remove it?

I think it's still there but it wasn't any real money before and you can jsut do the same in 10 minutes with hacking sites.

Can an aplha clone rat effectively in a vexor/vexor navy issue for some decent isk/h so I can afford to plex an account (or two prefferably because I already have an alt)

Also why are the gallente ship skins all so shit?

How much do you think the Pacifier (CONCORD covops frig) will go for?

Is it any good?