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/sthg/ #727 - Overwatch Edition
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Can we all agree that Sonic shouldn't have any humans, including Eggman, and any elements reminiscent of real world shit are cancerous? This includes shit like GUN and anything that's even an expy of real world locales
Brayden Wilson
FIRST
Xavier Kelly
>Can we all agree that.... No.
Kevin Nguyen
No one cares. Fuck off.
Sebastian Walker
FREAK
Jaxon Campbell
Like I said, you need to leave this franchise, because what you are saying is just plain stupid.
Justin Young
>No Eggman
Fuck off.
You are autistic if you think Sonic NEEDS humans. you are also a faggot.
Kevin Bennett
Anybody read Fallout: New Mobius?
Wyatt Peterson
Ok but in the end was Sonic the faker?
Or was noone the faker?
John Parker
Eggman would still be there, he'd just be an anthro with some robotic parts to show that he's about machine
Cooper Diaz
>Mobius Dropped.
Blake Harris
Remember to everyone: Don't get into an autistic argument over Sonic The Hedgehog. Nobody wins by doing such s thing.
I don't really follow it, but I've seen some of its stuff. It's a pretty cool idea.
Aiden Ramirez
I want to stab each and every one of you.
Jacob Russell
They're both fakers. Here's the real deal.
Leo Sullivan
We love you too, Shadow.
Nolan Moore
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Mason Powell
Can't be, he was made to rival sonic, so he is a faker.
James Cox
New Sonic's World doesn't have the same ring to it.
Joseph Jackson
Link?
Justin Collins
No, not at all. Most fans of the series like Eggman, and while this may or may not be as popular an opinion, I also really like some of the more real-life inspired locations like Rooftop Run or a couple other stages from Unleashed. I do think that "elements reminiscent of real world shit" are not universally a good thing, however. As themes for different settings I think they can be great, but as active forces shaping the story they can get bad. For example, while I understand the need for GUN as another source of robotic enemies separate from Eggman, I think that making them a violent and dark government sort of agency is unnecessary and out of tone of the series.
David Young
I want to stab you too, user-kun
Henry Cox
It was an askblog-turned-comic, though it was relatively short-lived. Though they still managed to crank out a lot of good stuff.
>The robot becomes curious and says, “Who is it, your girfriend or??”
>Sonic replies with, “What!? No! Not at all!”
>The tiny robot guy says, “Oh! I get it! Its not you that wears the pants, its her.”
>Sonic says, “No one is wearing the pants! No one.” (I’m not very sure what this means but..)
>Sonic calls Ami up again and says,”Ami, do you hear me? Were gonna go stay at Morrisville for a little longer to hang-”
>“No problem! But don’t forget that us two have to-”
>And then Sonic is all embarassed and holds up before she can finish her sentence. Bascially, the robots and Tails are thinking, “You ain’t fooling anyone, Sonic.”
>>Sonic says, “No one is wearing the pants! No one.” (I’m not very sure what this means but..)
What did he mean by this?
Jack Hughes
nobody is wearing pants
Michael Perry
Danm pervs.
Mason Murphy
Nice job, user!
Luis Miller
Marry/fuck/kill who?
Kayden Jackson
Kill: Amy Kill: Amy Kill: Amy
John Myers
>Marry: Amy >Fuck: Rouge >Kill: Pre-boot Sally
Rude.
Gabriel Ross
The answer to all of those is Blaze.
Andrew Nelson
Is the Sonic Boom gaem for the 3DS good or is it also shit like the Wii U one? The TV show is funny so it'd be a shame if the game kills the franchise.
Andrew Hall
Which one, because there's two Boom games on the 3DS.
Nolan Smith
Fuck.
Well, tell me about both of them.
Brayden Myers
I haven't played either, but I heard Fire & Ice was pretty decent, with a fun story.
Isaiah Collins
Dirty talking in sonic artists streams is pretty hot, even better when the artist is a girl.
I don't know why so many ladies draw sonic porn and are pretty good on it. Must be the spicy sonami fanfics.
Christopher Wilson
I want to punch you in the goat.
Christian Harris
So, what are the odds that Sonic 2 Beta's Hidden Palace Zone is referenced in some way in the upcoming Sonic Mania game?
Also, I can't believe they combined the two HPZs in the Sonic Universe manga.
Robert Flores
It was already "completed" in the Sonic 2 remaster, so I don't know how heavily they'd reference it.
Levi Smith
I think it's hilarious how the rebooted comic does sort of explain a lot of the odder things about Sonic's game continuity to some extent (the regions, origin of the Red Star Rings, Eggman's rise to power) yet the one thing it would never be able to explain is why the hell there's tiny animals and then Sonics. Old continuity said the tiny animals were unmutated or some shit, but I can't see them ever offering an explanation that makes sense without delving back into the post-apocalyptic stuff.
John Collins
Why?
Cooper Foster
I actually quite like the post-apocalyptic idea. It's canon to at least the OVA.
Adrian Powell
>Not Mecha
You Double Faker.
Colton Cook
>liking Mecha do the other kids make fun of you for your bad taste
Liam Davis
Why do humans exist in the same world as chimpanzees and gorillas? They simply branched off in their evolution. No other explanation is needed.
Evan Ramirez
Not him but that raises so many questions if it's true. Mobini display a level of sapience that no animal on Earth possesses. We treat chimpanzees and gorillas as precious factions of nature, things put on display at a zoo for their species's protection. We are still debating to this day about different facets about the evolution of our species.
And yet Sally doesn't seem to care that there are tiny chipmunks running around and vice-versa. If chimpanzees and gorillas had the level of self-awareness that they have, we would have a Planet Of The Apes situation.
You'll look at this and scream "autism" or wonder why I'm looking too deep into a children's comic, but these are the types of logistics problems your established fictional world raises when it has shit like that in it.
Benjamin Walker
And to add to this, I know the classic defense of this is "Sonic runs fast, your argument is invalid" but superheroes have explanations for why they get their powers. In Sonic's case it's already explained that all hedgehogs can run fast and that Sonic is just the Usain Bolt of them all. In preboot, mongooses could get super speed too.
Lucas Fisher
And to add to this, I know the classic defense of this is "Sonic runs fast, your argument is invalid" but superheroes have explanations for why they get their powers. In Sonic's case it's already explained that all hedgehogs can run fast and that Sonic is just the Usain Bolt of them all. In preboot, mongooses could get super speed too.
My point is everything in Sonic has an explanation EXCEPT for the Mobini. They're just there. And acting like no explanation is needed is nothing but an excuse not to think, like claiming Zelda has no timeline.
Mason Johnson
>but superheroes have explanations for why they get their powers. Except for the ones who are literally just born with powers, and characters without origin stories. >In Sonic's case it's already explained that all hedgehogs can run fast and that Sonic is just the Usain Bolt of them all. Fanwank, this is never said anywhere ever.
Benjamin Sanders
>And acting like no explanation is needed is nothing but an excuse not to think, like claiming Zelda has no timeline. Should be noted that Zelda was not created with a timeline in mind until enough autistic neckbeards reeeee'd hard enough to retcon a heavily slapped-together "timeline" into existence.
Christian Morales
People who legit think story in child's entertainment/videogames doesn't matter at all are the opposite end of that autism spectrum.
Joseph King
I'd like to append to user's point that there are clear sequels, prequels, and a timeline split, but Ocarina of Time was not created with the idea that the first four games would fall into a "hero fails" timeline. There's vague continuity, but no serious master plan at work.
Colton Walker
In some games (as recently as Sonic Runners), they're treated as having the same degree of intelligence as the Sonic cast. Unlike the comic, they're not just basic animals.
Jordan Sanders
Sure but things should be added to facilitate the primary story with few deviations. This isn't hard sci-fi; we don't need a long-winded chapter-long taxonomically-detailed explanation of the evolution of humans, Mobians (for lack of a better term) and mobini on the planet. They exist because Eggman wants to capture them and stuff them into robots, therefore any explanation that distracts from the primary story is unnecessary. If the comics ever do a story where the evolutionary history of the mobini is somehow relevant to the plot, then sure.
I mean hell, we don't have an explanation for how humans and Mobians exist, they simply do too, because we as the audience can assume that they simply naturally evolved like animals in the real world, unless we're explicitly told otherwise like with the Xorda shit.
Benjamin Sullivan
>Not obsessing over minor details in poorly written stories makes you autistic. You might have had a point if someone said these stories should always be ignored no matter what, but...
Joshua Morgan
>Except for the ones who are literally just born with powers That's still an explanation. Tails was born with two tails. They don't just gloss over it and say "oh he has two tails because whatever".
>Fanwank, this is never said anywhere ever. It is in the comics. It's stated that Mina can run fast simply by being a mongoose. Meaning Sonic can run fast simply by being a hedgehog. And if that doesn't count because it's preboot and not official SEGA material, it's stated again in Sonic Chronicles.
And if that doesn't count because it's not canon anymore despite being an officially published game, just open your eyes. Amy is able to reach speeds at least rivaling Tails just by running and is pretty fucking fast in Heroes. Silver may not be fast in 06 but he's canonically a speed character in Rivals and Runners.
Of all the characters who canonically go nearly as fast as Sonic can, only the hedgehogs go that fast on their feet.
Asher Parker
There seems to be a lot of people who think that around this thread. I don't think this is hard sci-fi either, and I don't much care for the topic at hand, but there's nothing wrong with wanting more detail.
Just because a story isn't super serious or adult doesn't mean it can't be well written and detailed when it wants to.
Xavier Edwards
The embodiment of chaos is your mum
David Bell
Sorta
Liam Miller
The servants are the seven Chaos... Chaos is power, controlled by my will... The controller exists to enslave the chaos!
Joseph Jackson
So what's the new troll meme in /sthg/ these days?
Jaxson Allen
I'm surprised there isn't that much trolling regarding the comic situation. I've seen it a couple times with an user saying subs are back on the store or a fake link that it's cancelled, but I expected more.
Christian Brown
>That's still an explanation. Except in most cases like that it's just assumed because they don't GIVE a reason.
>Tails was born with two tails. They don't just gloss over it and say "oh he has two tails because whatever" This is never said in any game ever. For all you know he suddenly developed a second tail on his sixth birthday.
>It is in the comics. It's stated that Mina can run fast simply by being a mongoose. That doesn't happen at all. Mina suddenly develops super speed and is confused by it, and later comics explain it was a power imbued to her by Mammoth Mogul.
>It's stated again in Sonic Chronicles. >"It's canon because a licensed game Sega doesn't even acknowledge said so." That's about as relevant as the time Ken Penders decided Sonic' s name was Maurice.
>Of all the characters who canonically go nearly as fast as Sonic can, only the hedgehogs go that fast on their feet. You just used Amy in Heroes as an example, but Espio doesn't count because...?
Seriously, shut the fuck up, Sparky.
Noah Foster
hey guys
Sonic Runners Adventure
Jose White
What about it?
Joseph Fisher
is it possible anyone here knows of any good sonic-related masturbation fics
Benjamin Morgan
Why isn't it in the OP for one thing
Justin Campbell
I don't think anyone bothers to update it that much anymore.
Juan Price
I wish they updated more than once a year.
Camden Mitchell
That was an awesome moment.
Josiah Johnson
Check writefag pastebin in OP.
Elijah Morales
What in the literal fuck did I just read? Did someone seriously just use Heroes' gameplay as part of a canon to anything?
Cooper Campbell
Do not reply to Sparky
Logan Cooper
>For all you know he suddenly developed a second tail on his sixth birthday. Occam's Razor, dumbass.
>and later comics explain it was a power imbued to her by Mammoth Mogul. If by explain you mean retcon, sure.
>That's about as relevant as the time Ken Penders decided Sonic' s name was Maurice. It WAS treated as canon, at the time. There's no reason SEGA would backpedal on it regardless of its canonicity if it's part of the series bible.
>You just used Amy in Heroes as an example, but Espio doesn't count because...? My point was that hedgehogs are naturally fast. Espio is a fucking ninja. He trained for that speed.
>Seriously, shut the fuck up, Sparky. I would behead someone with a butterknife for associating me with that autistic faggot.
Ethan Gonzalez
>Suggesting Occam's FUCKING Razor when the whole argument was "NO IT CAN'T JUST BE THAT THINGS ENDED UP THAT WAY I NEED DEEP LORE REEEEEE"
Are you retarded? If you're gonna play that then there's no reason to insist that Mobini need an explanation, they Just are as they are.
>b-buh retcon! Cite a single source for your claim then. I've read issue 88, they never say her speed comes from being a mongoose. She just suddenly develops it, and the narrative makes it clear she previously did not have it.
>It WAS treated as canon, at the time. There's no reason SEGA would backpedal on it regardless of its canonicity if it's part of the series bible. So now we're just assuming whatever Bioware wrote about Sonic is part of the series bible? Christ, dude.
>He trained for that speed. There are games where Amy is slow and instances of her training herself. You're seriously just cherrypicking points as "evidence."
Camden Reed
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Oliver White
>"they just are" Occam's Razor is for guessing, not dismissing. It's a miracle we ever asked questions about how the universe works if people like you exist. >Cite a single source for your claim then. They made her fast because mongooses are fast as shit. This is not a hard concept to grasp. Are you seriously implying that Penders sat on the whole Mogul explanation for 8 years only for Ian to bring it out? >instances of her training herself Name one. Where she trains to get faster. >You're seriously just cherrypicking points as "evidence." And you're not? That's how evidence works, you retard. There are far more examples of Amy being fast than of her being slow.
I suggest you kill yourself, to be put out of your retarded misery.
Ayden Ramirez
I just want to squeeze them, is that so wrong?
Owen Bell
This is why we can't have nice things.
>calling people retarded and devaluing their existence over an argument on the canonicity of a gaming franchise
easy, you two.
Hudson Nguyen
No touching!
Brayden Thompson
No, fuck you, if you don't think Sonic's Schoolhouse is canon you are SUBHUMAN!
Justin Lewis
>M-MUH HUGBOX Not them but holy shit grow up. If you want friendly conversation go to reddit or SSMB or something. I'm sure you'll feel right at home with the other children there.
Carter Nguyen
Get out.
Brody Reed
I want to thrust Cream against a wall and forcibly ejaculate inside her at least three times!
Andrew Ross
I don't think I like this general very much.
Leo Martin
This is how /sthg/ dies.
Not with a bang, but a whimper.
Evan Williams
Rouge isn't for squeezing, Rouge is for passionate cuddles.
Justin Edwards
I think this should be taken to /trash/
Brandon Myers
This level of argument isn't really that bad. Some generals are much, much worse.
Mason Williams
...
Brandon Ramirez
I want to rule an eternal kingdom with this qt.
Parker Russell
It's still pretty fucking bad. This is what I meant when I said Anonymity leads to sociopathy.
Liam Jones
t. newfags
Daniel Sullivan
It's not just the argument. This place feels like it's filled with the worst of /v/ Sonic fans mixed in with the turbo autists of /co/ and any hybrids that come along.