/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

Bidwell
Bidwell

This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate).
tags: /cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/

Previous thread: veekyforums.com/thread/173747356/video-games
Stellaris Resources
- Mod archive mega.nz/#F!hpBCSbCC!vZNs1Qhip_UJQPSSdoZjUg
- Mod recommendations pastebin.com/qsTFCyvh (embed)

Endless Legend Resources
Manual cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467
Wiki 1 endless-legend.wikia.com/wiki/Endless_Legend_Wiki
Wiki 2 endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

Civilization Resources
- Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors: dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
- Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE) well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
- CivFanatics Database and Forums civfanatics.com/
- Wiki of all Civ games civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Civilization_Games_Wiki
- Browser Civ game, similar to civ2 play.freeciv.org
- /civ4xg/ steam group steamcommunity.com/groups/civ4xg

Civilization VI
hydra-media.cursecdn.com/civ6.gamepedia.com/2/29/District_Cheat_Sheet.png?version=07510f0f43d7188e00e7046c90360dba (embed)

Civilization V
- CIVILOPEDIA Online (Civ V) dndjunkie.com/civilopedia/
- Civ V drafter georgeskleres.com/civ5/
- Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot - multiplayerrobot.com

Civilization modding
- Wiki for Civ modding modiki.civfanatics.com/index.php/Main_Page
- Civ V mod workshop steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods pastebin.com/5ANRmRur (embed) (embed) (embed)
Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX) resources
- Essential improvements pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

I GUESS THIS IS MY JOB NOW. I DON'T HAVE GOOD OP IMAGES.

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youtu.be/BZMepnUqpo8?t=1m11s
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Deflector_shield
physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-1/Inertia-and-Mass
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=903132430
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youtu.be/aR5N2Jl8k14?t=712
npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/08/519235038/researchers-take-a-step-toward-mind-controlled-robots
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence
youtube.com/watch?v=3TYT1QfdfsM
bipedalshark.gitlab.io/stellaris-tech-tree/vanilla/
lesswrong.com/lw/xu/failed_utopia_42/
veekyforums.com/thread/173849696/video-games

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

i want to fug that droid.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

You're a good guy, OP

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Thanks OP.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

OP will never rest edition

DeathDog
DeathDog

veekyforums.com/thread/173747356/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/173747356/video-games
Enslaving your own.
I tried being authoritarian, banned slavery and used robots for menial labor. Authoritarian faction was 15% happy because I didn't enslave my own people.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Hmm, so lewd though

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

15%+ happy which is good, or just 15% overall faction happiness which is horrific?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

So, I own a legit copy of Stellaris. If I pirate Utopia, is it still possible to play multiplayer? I've no idea how it works with DLC but hell if I agree with Paradox's way of doing it.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

System survey complete.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

15% overall faction happiness which is crippling when it's the main faction and during early game.

JunkTop
JunkTop

veekyforums.com/thread/173747356/video-games
But I like the dudes I made, and I don't want them enslaved.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Yes it is

You also don't need to pirate it at all if the host has the DLC.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

i wish stellaris was this

viagrandad
viagrandad

Science ship under attack

takes2long
takes2long

Oh damn, didn't know that second part. Thanks user.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Its for the hive.

hairygrape
hairygrape

star empire
a faction for the democratic and progressive rights of aliens
who were uplifted from flinging shit at each other

It's treason then?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

So someone told me mechanist lowers your robot upkeep cost, is this true? I can't find anything concrete on my own, and if so anyone know how much?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

putting a defense station on the jump-in point

DEVILISH

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

It's one of the nicer parts to paradox DLC.

Though you still can't be plants and shit if you don't have that pack and shit.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

goddamnit that's fucked up, I wanted to do a Roman empire role-play with robot slaves. Why the fuck do paradox have to shit all over the interesting mechanics

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

You know you can force the jump in station to be where the defence station is right?

askme
askme

it's your own damn fault if you uplift a species and teach them ethics that go against your mainstream.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So what happens if you make a race with one of the dlc exclusive civics well in mp then try to load up a game with them in sp not owning it?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Actually I don't know about multiplayer but there is a workaround for that. Two lines of code and you have that DLC.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Most stations have flypaper mods anyway, so any incoming vessel lands on top of them. I stick mine over the star and surround it with concentric rings of minefield stations.

At least before 1.5, the AI couldn't into avoiding systems like that, and it doesn't seem to take stations into account when determining relative military strength.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I forced Hyperlane in my SP game because it's pretty comfy and I have a decent start but I'm considering restarting with Wormhole.

Do I stick with Hyperlane and be able to block people I don't like or do I go Wormhole and go superspeeds?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Go supremacy approach
get assraped by multiple AI early on because they didn't like my harsh tone when we first met

Go diplomacy approach
Have everyone reject my invitation to federations while they go and start their own

I think I have made a mistake with purchasing this game

MPmaster
MPmaster

I put it where it is because of the wormhole generator. They seem too valuable to leave undefended so I'd rather the AI has to fight a defense station before killing the generator. I give the station an FTL inhibitor thing so it gives my main fleet time to jump in and defend the station. It's usually good bait.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

If I have legit base game, but all the DLC are pirated, can I still play multiplayer?

If no, then to play multiplayer all I have to do is throw the original files back in to the folder and disable DLC, right? I don't need to delete the dlc folders too?

idontknow
idontknow

tfw you conquer 6 new worlds as a Hive

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

It's sad, if Stellaris had the character significance of CK2, the CB, fortress and peace-deal mechanic of EU4, the population manage of Vicky2 and the Front Line mechanics of HoI4, it'd be a fucking amazing game. As it stands, it's somewhat fun but just lacks everything.

Your empire has no identity past the one you want it to have. No where does it really interact with anything in any meaningful way.
Wars suck crusty cunt and just involve stack wiping and going after everything in exhaustive detail.
Your pops literally don't matter. No one gives a fuck and you can't change ethos or time (last time I played) or anything.
Even declaring wars is fucking boring. You set your wargoals and can either achieve them or not. There's nothing that incentivizes holding what you actually want to have and encourages just wiping shit out, with the catch that, if you actually went and wiped everything out, you can't actually just take the lands you destroyed, forcing you into several long and extremely boring wars, the third of which will definitely end in your target ending up under some other empire or, worse, a federation.

It's fucking sad.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

What should I build to counter AI who spam PD, cutting lasers and disruptors? All I have are level 3 fighter/bombers, level 4 missiles and level 3 disruptors. My ships are all armor and shield, so I get dicked by these guys.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

THICC

5mileys
5mileys

Too versatile, too casual.

It'll only be good after 5 DLCs. Already they added factions and internal politic.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Do I need to remove my dlc files/disable my DLCs if I want to play, or can I leave my cracked files?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

youtube.com/watch?v=NEgwxGWgiIg

massdebater
massdebater

KINETICS

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

That will take fucking long though.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

How do I get utopia

Playboyize
Playboyize

about the current galactic civ bundle, is it worth buying? galciv looks fun but the free code is spazzing out on me.

whereismyname
whereismyname

frontlines in space with ftl

girlDog
girlDog

You justify it with supply lines.

Methshot
Methshot

Here you are friend, enjoy.
paradoxplaza.com/stellaris-utopia

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

As I said you shouldn't be able to do the cosmetic pack even if the host has it.

If it works SP and has the right checksum then you're good.

JunkTop
JunkTop

It's better than this current boring dogshit system we currently have. Instead of just going
le funneh green arrow xDD
you could give a suggestion on how to fix wars.

Emberfire
Emberfire

So wormhole would be immune to being cut off as long as they are in range to use their ftl?

JunkTop
JunkTop

INTERDICTORS

Lunatick
Lunatick

Pretty much, thats the issue with the 3 FTL techs, with Hyperspace you can easily justify fronts and importance of supply lines while with Warp you can just about justify it, wormhole just makes it obsolete.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

what triggered the Unbidden and why did they spawn inside my only ally's space?

hairygrape
hairygrape

They're shield heavy so stick guns on everything. Armor your ships, disruptors will fuck shields too fast, even faster than the lazors will cut through armor.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

what triggered the Unbidden
A forbidden technology.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Jump drives

Flameblow
Flameblow

Using jump drives calls them.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Regarding the shroud
I'm only allowed to establish a covenant with one entity, right?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

The primary issues with wars are two fold, one combat is just doomstack against doomstack and two the peace system is garbage.
To fix combat you need to have a reason to split fleets up, the best way I can see to do that would be using something akin to hoi4 where leaders can effectively lead so many ships, which would in turn also reduce the spam torpedo corvettes against large ships.
I would say don't have any leader with no cap, but have the cap scale with their level and your maximum fleet size, with a minimum of 10 ships/level to prevent being crippled in the early game, might need to be higher it would require testing.
To fix the war demands I would say allow dynamic adding of war goals. But make it cost influence to add them after the war goals are initially set.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

have strike craft
oh no
have missiles
dear god
disruptors
I'm so sorry.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

i think so. hope you plan on winning within 50 years

RumChicken
RumChicken

Create a similar mechanic called "operational theaters", based on how sectors work, by assigning systems to them.

Fleets get assigned to theaters and are individual assigned specific missions, such as "defense", "raid (destroy infrastructure but avoid combat)", and "seek and destroy", "occupy", etc etc.

Combine this with a fleet manager where fleets are automatically reinforced to a set number and distribution of ships, as well as being able to be flat out constructed in one lump group that auto-forms, and you're golden.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

we were all new once, user ;_; I'm currently researching railguns however. I am quite sick of point defense being everywhere so not having to deal with it will be great

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

tfw unbidden have spawned the past 5 games i've had

it's ok it isn't like prethoryns exist

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

You have a Chosen One God Emperor/God Empress
You've already won the game through any of the three victory conditions
Enter the Shroud, new event pops up
Possible to sacrifice every single Psionic pop in the galaxy, basically billions if not trillions of people, harvest all their Psychic energy and transfer it to your leader
Galaxy screen switches to show The Shroud instead
Pop up explains that millions of years have passed and you have finally woken up as a Shroud God
New victory conditions explain you must now fight for dominance over the other shroud entities
Game mechanics and resources are translated to reflect this
You can switch between the Shroud and Galaxy map, Galaxy map shows a regular new game only with all AI Empires
Shroud Gods get buffs and bonuses for Psionic Empires/Pops that worship them, form covenants with them and successfully complete tasks/missions for them.
New Game+

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

As fanatic purifiers, can I cleanse planets to get my unity, or do I actually have to annex, them, park an army on them, and wait for them to be purged for me to get my free unity?
Doesn't really matter either way, I just don't want to gimp myself and miss out on the free purge points.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Is there anyway to get around the fact that only xenophobic states can do more than just displace aliens? Displacing doesn't cut it when there aren't any other empires large enough to take the refugees.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Generally, if you want a 'Take-All-Comers' ship, mixing plasma and kinetics about 50/50 is the best way to achieve it.

Defences need to be tailored to the enemy a bit more, at least until late game when you can get hull regeneration high enough to essentially make your ships untouchable even without shields.

askme
askme

So you want to take the player out of combat entirely?
I don't like the sound of that, we have enough issues with sector ai being dumb, and looking at front ai in Hoi I would not trust them to do this in a sensible way.

Methnerd
Methnerd

federations are gay
i want to out of this guardian's of the galaxy federation.
all I want to do is attack this guy
but i don't want to get bullied

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Multiple Crisis is mandatory at this point
200h and I never seen the AI uprising once

Playboyize
Playboyize

Yes, because the combat in this game is extremely tedious and annoying in a way that no other paradox game is.
The fact that systems are actual, physical areas which you can micro a fleet in is beyond retarded.

FastChef
FastChef

I made a covenant with the cycle dude, is that bad?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I think that that might actually alleviate some problems of the current system. Leaders would help with the doomstacks.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

are you in actual federation or did you just agree to be his battle thrall (signatory or whatever)

hairygrape
hairygrape

JESUS

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I hope you like The Unbidden on Bath Salts

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

stellariswiki.com/Crisis#The_End_of_the_Cycle
You fucked up in ways you can't even begin to comprehend.

SniperWish
SniperWish

i joined the federation to fight the unbidden, even though I had to do half the work. It's just that he has 300k+ military, and I don't want to make him mad.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

No user, not bad at all

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

so I'm building a ring world and completed the platform station and it said 'our team of hundreds of engineers can begin dismantling the solar system's planets' or some shit
how do

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

nobody thinks stellaris porn exists

Evilember
Evilember

No user, I'm sure nothing can go wrong when you make pacts with psychic space demons.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

which you can micro a fleet in is beyond retarded.
I wish.
They just go full speed towards the enemy till they are beating each other with the ship bows.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Tell me more

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

How does this even work

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

This game tries to do way too much. There are like 20 types of weapon alone jfc.

WebTool
WebTool

then try rts games wich are easier

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

strong enough framework/armor > force applied to bow of ship = not comically blown up

Booteefool
Booteefool

Yeah I fucking hate when a game tries to have depth

w8t4u
w8t4u

One ship is disabled, so it's not resisting the directional thrust from the ramming vessel spinning it off-axis, the other SD thinks the other one is maneuvering until it's too late.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Ask again in 1 hour

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Ship can push a 20 times bigger ship at a fast speed
Not only that, but has enough force to throw everybody in the bigger ship to the floor
And to crash it to the other big ship to cause massive damage
Also you can see the actual bridge when is crashing against the big ship
Magical Plot Powers.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Im not hating on it. I just think they threw literally every sci-fi concept into the game but dont really go into depth with a lot of them.

Take clones for example, they can do so much more with the concept, but right now they're just for army.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Should I build two Ringworlds at once? I just realized how long it takes to build and I get minerals much faster than it takes to build.

askme
askme

tfw you finally pinpoint the mod that's been causing that really annoying bug

such fucking relief

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Same with xenomorph armies. When I read about it in the wiki, I was hyped. But then I found out it was just your regular army with better numbers.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

this hive mind has an interesting shape

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Rate my space snails /civ4xg/

Evilember
Evilember

That's actually kinda cool
I wish all end-game crisis were that challenging/interesting

JunkTop
JunkTop

Is Rimworld /civ4xg/ or /indie/?
Because I kinda need help about basic stuff.

Firespawn
Firespawn

No ya don't, mate

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

/v/ loves it if you don't get answers here

girlDog
girlDog

oven tier

whereismyname
whereismyname

should be das reich

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

You can only work on one at a time, so that won't help you. You probably want to spam Habitations in all your colonized systems to help with the excess minerals thing.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Magical Plot Powers.

Or you know, inertia and delta-v in a micro-gravity vacuum.

viagrandad
viagrandad

/v/?
Loving something?
Ya be pulling me leg matey?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Ofug; do you think it's worthwhile to get the 33% build speed ascension perk?
Would have to wait 50 years to get Dyson spheres with my unity.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Finally, an immensely powerful Shroud entity known as "The Reckoning" - representing the combined essence of all deceased psionic individuals in the former empire that summoned it - will appear over the empire's former homeworld, and proceed to seek out the remaining life in the galaxy. All pops consumed will increase the power. Up to 800 pops. It's power will increase proportionally in term of hull, shield and fire rate. But exponentially in term of damage.
Hahahaha oh wow. You fucking lost so badly you'll make EVERYONE ELSE lose too. There's gotta be an achievement for fucking up this badly.

Soft_member
Soft_member

ok so I'm getting the hang of playing stellaris with the new features, and now that I've outpaced the civs around me I'm pretty sure I can dominate my immediate surroundings. so if I conquer them and subjugate them that will fuck up my unity requirements right? or would a slave species not affect that.

Illusionz
Illusionz

two destroyers have a head on collision in ESB
no major damage
tiny piece of shit rams destroyer in rouge one
look at our physics plugin guys

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Dude, the Hammerhead are literally ancient, and the Star Destroyers are the strongest ships during the Empire era.
Crash into a tank with a car and tell me who gets fucked.

girlDog
girlDog

disney in charge of physics
The difference is mass alone would've crushed the smaller ship like a can of soda.

WebTool
WebTool

#
Dude, the Hammerhead are literally ancient, and the Star Destroyers are the strongest ships during the Empire era.
Crash into a tank with a car and tell me who gets fucked.

Dude, moons are literally ancient, and the Star Destroyers are the strongest ships during the Empire era.
Crash into a mountain with a car and tell me who gets fucked.

Illusionz
Illusionz

rate my hivemind

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Dude, hammers are literally ancient, and my dick is the hardest thing during my daily fapping session.
Crush my dick with a hammer and tell me who get fuckede.

RumChicken
RumChicken

the hammerhead was built for hammering tho

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

hive mind

2/10

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

5/10
why extremely adaptive?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The Star Destroyer just lost all power and drive. Did you even watch the movie? It's dead in space, they've rammed a free-floating object and are accelerating.

Of course it'll move, particularly since they're just spinning it on it's axis mainly, not massively altering it's direction of travel or velocity.

Crash into a tank with a car

Again, this is in a microgravity environment. A fucking handfan could move a tank in that environment, given enough time and the battery power.

This is why shit like ion engines work and can accelerate probes up to km/s speeds, despite producing miniscule amounts of thrust.

Learn basic physics, this is high school shit.

cum2soon
cum2soon

i can colonise all planets

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

want to make a slaver empire that enslaves xenos
can't be authoritarian because authoritarian factions get mad if you don't enslave your own race
can't be xenophobe because xenophobe factions get mad if you have any xenos in your empire at all, even if they're slaves
Why'd they have to remove the ability to enslave pops individually? Slavery is impossible to use now.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

banks poorfagget detected

Skullbone
Skullbone

You realize hiveminds don't have happiness to manage for pops right? Habitability is meaningless.

RumChicken
RumChicken

You can only block other people with Hyperlanes, wormholes and warp powers can still go where they please.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Clensing gives you nothing. Having said that I think the mechanic is broken because I get zero unity from purging as a FP...

RumChicken
RumChicken

He said hyperlane only, dude. Which allows you to set up chokepoints on the map.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Wormhole is slow and unwieldy if you're not used to it. I like using it though because it allows me to jump over enemy territory once I get the upgrades for it.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Rate my bootleg Imperium of Man, any modifications I should make?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Or you know, shit that doesn't even exist in Star Wars.
Plot powers is a better explanation.

5mileys
5mileys

Corvettes are meta, guys
Missles are fine now, PD wont counter it as hard now t.paracocks
18k fleet vs a 25k fleet is totally gonna be a battle and not an execution, guys

Also i got a grand total of 4 warscore for that

Spamalot
Spamalot

this endgame sounds totally ridiculous, but fun if you can actually win it

idontknow
idontknow

Dang son

eGremlin
eGremlin

a planet need 40% habitability to colonise

iluvmen
iluvmen

this is how mass works.

WebTool
WebTool

I'm not sure what you were expecting. You heavily outgunned that guy and won easily and got barely any reward for it? No shit?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

The flesh is lewd

Playboyize
Playboyize

But can you? From what I read, you basically only control a colony ship, everyone else in the universe hates you, and you soon get some avenger coming after EVERYONE.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Well "dude" clearly I didn't read his post now did I?

Wormhole is the most superior one because it's the one which enables you to move quickly without being boxed in. Warp and hyperlane suck hard.

Illusionz
Illusionz

That was the largest fleet in their entire alliance and i completely smashed it, that should be worth like 20 warscore

Firespawn
Firespawn

This is collision, you have to take the masses into consideration. The frame of the smaller ship would give out way before it could move the star destroyer.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I hate this. When you destroy an enemy's whole army but it's worth nearly no war score because it was really small compared to your army. That's dumb. You still ruined their army.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

not doing it just for flavor reasons, not to mention the fact that you need a certain habitability to colonize in the first place

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I considered keeping habitable planets inside my territory via frontier outpost , terraform if needed the idea is keeping at least 5 planets within 3 FO

Build more colony ships from the one colony you get and rebuild from there , trading energy for minerals with the trader enclave since all empires will hate you and refuse to trade

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

destroy their fleet
occupy their capital world and the warscore target
you still don't have quite enough warscore so they refuse to cede you the one fucking planet despite them having no ability to actually win the war
have to keep occupying more planets until they finally surrender

This is my favorite part of warfare in Stellaris.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Well it's no secret that warscore is totally fucked. It makes no sense how it's calculated. I mean if you're a tiny empire that controls only a handful of colonies and your main fleet is completely obliterated and then your homeworld comes under siege from a fleet you can't possibly defeat, and your remaining stations are being destroyed by raiding parties, you'd think that would be enough for unconditional surrender. But in Stellaris that's really just the start of the grueling war process that involves invading and then occupying as many worlds as you can in order to force them to capitulate.

Spamalot
Spamalot

konstantos sucks chechen dick

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Huh, didn't know HRS had been updated.

farquit
farquit

*in Paradox games
I'm glad at least in Stellaris the AI doesn't send unreasonable demands like in EU3. Where you could get a warscore of 50+ and the AI would still ask you for all your gold and that you release this or that vassal and stuff.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I didn't know you could play as Turkey in Stellaris

Methshot
Methshot

How come there isn't a random option for galaxy shape? I never know which one I like best.

Firespawn
Firespawn

It's how Paradox artificially increases the difficulty of the game. Because actually making the AI not suck dick at the game is too much work. So instead they just make playing the game a huge pain in the ass. You'd think since war is a huge dominant feature they'd put more work into making it fun, but I find myself avoiding war as much as possible because of how tedious it is.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

So all whole bunch of in game graphics are low res after the update, is there a fix?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

chechens

They were wiped out in 2134 by the New Cossack Hetmanate.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

the small ship would give out

That depends how strong the ship's superstructure is relative to the force they're exerting from their engines. Provided they don't exceed the strength of their own superstructure, they'd be fine and could still move the SD.

The Star Destroyer has nothing to do with it.

WebTool
WebTool

I dread playing my current save because a neighbouring empire broke our NAP, I feel like it's going to attack me as soon as the truce period ends.

FastChef
FastChef

they're just spinning it on it's axis mainly
No, watch the full scene again, the corvette is pushing the whole thing towards the other Stardestroyer.
Not to mention you are ignoring a 100m long ship rams at full speed against a 1,6km long one and suffers no damage, it even penetrates the hull of the Stardestroyer.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

What ship mod is that?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

i dunno if you can, but it *seems* possible

RavySnake
RavySnake

They couldn't move the SD anyway, it has fancy anti gravity space magic.

girlDog
girlDog

Fuggen jackpot

"We are the Imperial Navy" or something along those lines

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Would gib rights to any day of the week.

Supergrass
Supergrass

How annoying is the democratic crusader personality?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Imagine your average American.
Then don't change a thing.

SniperWish
SniperWish

No they could not, the mass of the SD is still too great unless that thing has some serious engines. Hence why space ships still require huge thrusters to move in space. If it worked the way you are suggesting a space ship could run on a 12volt battery for propulsion because any thrust is enough in micro gravity.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Most democratic crusaders ive met didnt have the repugnant or the slow learner trait desu

SniperGod
SniperGod

decide to build tall, like some anons theorise
pick a couple big planets
build a good number of research stations
discovering the mysteries of the universe at dangerous speeds
dwarf all over empires, technologically
surpass all my other games, easily, hitting their research level ~100 years earlier
Goddamn genius, this.

Going synthetic may have factored in, though.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Suffers no damage

It clearly crumples. They're just making contact anyway, they don't bump the SD into the other one, they contact it and start applying thrust, essentially turning themselves into a maneuvering thruster.

Which was shut off, because the entire ship had lost power.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

why would it lose power? it doesn't even touch the reactor

StonedTime
StonedTime

konstantos' nightly activities suggest otherwise

happy_sad
happy_sad

unless that thing has some serious engines.

We know they do, Star Wars ships maneuver at ridiculous speeds.

Methshot
Methshot

How long does it takes for the AI to become psions/cyborgs/mutants?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

there's still no reason to think it would do much of any damage

humans understand physics intuitively, if it looks wrong it's wrong

Methshot
Methshot

they don't bump the SD into the other one

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Not using warp travel

Shit Imperium, bro.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

does anyone play civ anymore or is it all space shit?

if i used to play paradox games but fried my brain with drugs and now i cant handle anything more complex than civ vi will the space shit be fun?

cum2soon
cum2soon

I had already used up 7/8 ascension perks before a I got any notice of nearby empires taking any ascension paths.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Stellaris is babby mode, if you can play Civ you can play Stellaris.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

but at the end you still get buttfucked becouse you dont have enough recources and space for ships.

StonedTime
StonedTime

It lost power before they rammed it.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Euroshits get out

Techpill
Techpill

Corey?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

fried brain with drugs

It shows.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Lost power
Artificial Gravity is still funtioning

iluvmen
iluvmen

humans understand physics intuitively

That's just plain wrong. Humans have zero 'intuitive' frame of reference for zero g physics.

Yes, you'll notice they're still in contact with the SD, with their engines firing. They're actively maneuvering it into the other SD, they didn't just bump it into the other one with their initial impact.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

T R I B U T A R I E S

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Ok

viagrandad
viagrandad

Wormhole travel is closer to the WH40K Warp

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Yeah, confusing, because there'd be no reason to put life support on a seperate circuit from maneuvering thrusters...just stick em all on the same system so if one goes down, they all go down.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

so I saw some people talk about building "tall not wide" with their stellaris empire, but how does that work when you actually try to go to war with others. I mean you have to spread at some point, are you just purging everything or what?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Tributaries and vassals, m8. Conquer someone and force them to pay you money and minerals in exchange for protection.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Vassals , i'm staying at 5 planets and maxing traditions and tech before expanding

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I made these ones in the previous build attempting to match the AI personalities. However, I think they need some rework and more meat to them. Any advice?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Take the naval capacity ascension perk and subjugate other empires to get them tributes and vassal/protectorate capacity bonuses.

Nojokur
Nojokur

literally the first thing you ever learn about physics is rolling balls across a floor which is not much different

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I dunno, man. That massive headstart meant I can expand my empire with ease. I have the means to overcome the increased research cost and all of my buildings are more efficient, because of that research.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Ascension perks and traditions nigga, they make tall possible now.
that ascension perk that gives you +200 naval capacity
megastructures allow you to build Dyson Sphere for shitloads of energy to support your fleet
Domination tradition lets you get rich off of tributaries and boost your fleet capacity from vassals

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Should I subject the weak space elves to full slavery for complete and utter misery ìn the mines or domestic servitude so they can serve their very strong lizard masters more directly?

askme
askme

Tile blocker cleared.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I have the phenotype plant problem, does it only affect the pops on that particular planet or the whole race? How do I get rid of it ASAP?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

What about the shields user? SW ships have those, right?

Firespawn
Firespawn

ok so vassals dont affect your unity? what about enslaving them and keeping them as a managed species or whatever. I've got factions that want slaves.

RavySnake
RavySnake

To support what fleet?
You need minerals to build fleets, which are usually acquired from planets you don't have because you're not spreading.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

playing Imperium of Man
can't purge xenos

It seems I've made a mistake

Lunatick
Lunatick

Domestic servitude means lewd.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Nice

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

PURGE

PUUUURRRRGGGEEE

happy_sad
happy_sad

serve their very strong lizard masters more directly?

What did he mean by this?

Emberburn
Emberburn

You need minerals to build fleets, which are usually acquired from planets
You don't really need many planets. With like 4 or 5 planets plus the surrounding systems I grab with outposts I can easily get like 200 minerals a month. Advanced mineral extraction tech makes it absurdly easy to stockpile minerals.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

youtu.be/BZMepnUqpo8?t=1m11s
So, let me get this.
The Small ship has enough trust power to turn the Giant ship into a giant sword that cuts the Second Giant Ship, and the Small ship suffers supperficial damage, despiste its trusth being that massive?
How the fuck doesn't become a pancake without magic armor?

Lunatick
Lunatick

2200 ad
fapping to xenos

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

tfw want to pick authority and spiritualism for imperial cult
but also want to pick militarism and xenophobic for purging and full bombardment

What the fuck do I do?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Why would a reptile or snail have breasts?

viagrandad
viagrandad

They have deflectors not shields.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why do you even need Authority for Imperial Cult when Imperial Goverment doesn't need it?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I know the feeling.
I settled on F. Spiritualist / Authoritarian for the Imperial Cult

King_Martha
King_Martha

There's no reason to take authoritarian when spiritualist and xenophobe cover all the bases.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

full bombardment is lackluster trash. Just drop militarist.

FastChef
FastChef

2200 ad
not being Fanatic Xenophile

Skullbone
Skullbone

you need both do unlock imperial cult

but i need to purge

but i need to RP as the god-emperor

i'll probably do this

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

deflectors
Deflector shields
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Deflector_shield

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

not going fanatic spiritualist + egalitarian

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

playing Imperium of Man
purge yourself

SniperGod
SniperGod

Does it work?

Techpill
Techpill

Ah, my greatest victory to date.
What can't I do?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

well it's the imperium with a twist

see

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

wiki that takes stats directly from the non-canonical roleplaying game

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

you need both do unlock imperial cult
Yes, i am asking the logic behind it.

happy_sad
happy_sad

oh right, i guess it makes sense to have spiritualist due to the whole "state religion" thing

Inmate
Inmate

not interdimensional/10

TechHater
TechHater

war lost

farquit
farquit

Humans genemodded them in.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Scratch that, you were asking about authoritarian. You're right, it makes no fucking sense.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Don't worry, I found one without any.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

What kind of Fanatic Purifiers are the scariest?

DeathDog
DeathDog

That small ship is using it's engines, to quote the captain, at 'full sublight', which given how fast SW ships move, are pretty fucking powerful. They've basically turned their ship into a maneuvering thruster, and scaled, they're a big maneuvering thruster.

All they're doing is spinning the nose of the ship into it's sister and pushing it slightly downwards i.e. the direction the planet's gravity is going to be pulling the powerless ship anyway.

The small ship is imparting energy into the large ship, when it hits, the inertia of the SD coupled with the velocity it's built up relative to the ship it's hitting does all the damage, the thrust of the rebel ship is irrelevent.

For example, in zero g, a man could push a 50 ton truck across a room if he had magnetic boots or a jet pack, whatever, and if he had the energy to keep pushing for a while, and it was a big room, he could get it fast enough to get the truck moving up to whatever speed he could run/fly at.

If the floating truck then hit a wall, he'd suddenly run into it as it decelerated, but only at the speed he was running at, so he'd get a broken nose at worse. The wall the truck hit however, would be obliterated, because of the inertia of the truck's mass, coupled with all the energy the man has imparted over the last half and hour he'd been pushing on it.

Seriously, open a fucking book.

physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-1/Inertia-and-Mass

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

xeno mating noises
just end me

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

The Pheremone one? It only affects that planet, you can either pay a lump sum of energy credits at the start to get rid of it, let it continually worsen until you choose to start fighting its effects and eventually remove it for free or let it stay there. it only affects the planet.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

tfw democratic
tfw mandate fulfilled
tfw no influence
tfw leader dies

the greatest feel

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Got any space elves?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

this is how cute fluffy foxes and butterflies and snails become fanatic purifiers

doesn't even require a specific government authority

King_Martha
King_Martha

stellaris space elves are the most generic shit imaginable

are you seriously asking if there exists porn of elves with silver or pink hair

askme
askme

Are there Helghast portraits anywhere? Additionally, a mod that limits aliens to mammalians would be cool.

Playboyize
Playboyize

I mean as in "domestic servants" in Stellaris' setting.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

What if your allie is just a hivemind pretending to be a democratic empire?

Soft_member
Soft_member

don't use minefield, it does pisspoor damage
get the shield dampner and incapacitator instead
lategame -25% shield health and -15% attack speed are a hell of a lot more relevant than 5 damage a month

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What are all the rewards for going in the Shroud?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Ew, why not use the vanilla space elves

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

is there art of slave elves in sci-fi settings
Do you really need to ask this question

Methnerd
Methnerd

I know there is I was just asking had he drawn any himself.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Humanoids are pretty boring. Not to much to chose from.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

No lewd options.

Snarelure
Snarelure

A fucking handfan could move a tank in that environment, given enough time and the battery power.
The SD went from static to ramming the other SD in the span of 20 seconds

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I think I need more than one Dyson Sphere to cover the energy-necessities of my empire.

Emberburn
Emberburn

can't download a mod since it hasn't been mirrored outside the steam workshop yet

h-help me steamfags

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Build fucking power plants you stooge.

takes2long
takes2long

Are you going for the Half Life series Combine?
If so they aren't xenophobic, just have no problems enslaving and exterminating alien species for profit.

Methshot
Methshot

mod?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

just found asteroid called LV-426

There had better be big black ayys or I'm suing Paradox.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

build power habitats
a single habitat can easily get you 150+ energy

TechHater
TechHater

Can AI empire trigger this btw?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Are you going for the Half Life series Combine?
If so they aren't xenophobic, just have no problems enslaving and exterminating alien species for profit.

I know, but I cant have battle thralls and livestock without being xenophobic for some reason.

takes2long
takes2long

You're thinking of Materialist.

Methshot
Methshot

is it me or does turning your species into robots actually make your empire weaker?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

20 seconds

They cut away to watch Stronk Womyn climb a fucking tower and realign a comms dish before the impact is shown. Have you even watched this or are you just repeating le epic maymays you've seen on reddit?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Oh fug

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

If the floating truck then hit a wall, he'd suddenly run into it as it decelerated, but only at the speed he was running at, so he'd get a broken nose at worse. The wall the truck hit however, would be obliterated
So thats why the Moon crashed onto the Earth instead of being covered in craters due to small objects at high speed crashing into it, right?.

Inmate
Inmate

Elves of Stellaris. There's a Drow version too if you like the dark meat.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Politics
Fucking where. Show me one instance of actual politics in Stellaris.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Tile blockers are really one of the really bad mechanics. I get they want to impart the feeling that you're civilizing wild planets but that's what terraforming is for. Different blockers should just be standard tiles but with unique bonuses.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Some of those faces are mildly disturbing

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

for some reason.
I can only assume is a reference to SC2.
Otherwise i don't see how a Xenophobic Empire will be fine and dandy with having xeno armies.

RumChicken
RumChicken

tfw it's fucking nothing

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

What are your essential mods for 1.5 so far?

5mileys
5mileys

Yeah, I really don't like them. What's worse is finding a nice planet early on but it's like 99% tile blockers and the only tile you can settle on isn't adjacent to anything.

Would prefer if all blockers were clearable from the start, with very expensive costs and very long times to do so.

With Utopia, I always pick the Master of Nature thing as my first ascendancy point. Makes them free to clear and removes the tech requirement. Makes the mechanic much more bearable.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Planets exist to be mined. So many barren, useless planets. I wish there were planet-crackers. My Empire needs more resources.

askme
askme

Fuck that skyrim generic trash robe.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

He's probably one of the /tv/tards who thought a fucking jeep commercial was actually episode 7.

WebTool
WebTool

There's 'Real Humanoid Slaves' if you just want nude slaves for the regular humanoid/spehs elf races.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I get they want to impart the feeling that you're civilizing wild planets
Free to clear all of them with a single ascension choice

MPmaster
MPmaster

The factions.

Illusionz
Illusionz

to be fair that does come at the cost of things like +25% border span and +10% research speed

Bidwell
Bidwell

Yeah, I feel like you're the one who is supposed to instigate it. But that requires you getting mechanoids and not being Materialist, a combination that is really weak desu

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Are you intentionally being retarded now?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Cant really be that long because they were getting raped in the sky and the tiny ship pushing the big ship was kind of the "life saver" of the scene

I dont even know what the fuck you are talking about, please keep the sperging out to a bare minimum

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Neat, you don't need to be working the Cloning Vats to make clone soldiers.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

You still didn't answer how the small ship super powerful engines don't crush the ship itself against the giant ship.
Also, they are pushing the ship "horizontal" to the planet.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

C..can't be that long

Just give it up, be a man for once, admit you were talking out of your ass.

StonedTime
StonedTime

That's also one of the stupid things.
Draining a swamp is something on an entirely different level than removing a mountain or altering mantle convection to stop a volcano.

If tile blockers were just things like sinkholes and swamps, yeah they'd be fine. But mountains and volcanoes are stupid.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

How crippling is to pick wasteful trait?

Pop Consumer Goods Cost: +20%

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

playing multiplayer game
got boxed in by AI and one other player
fucked up my unity spending
wanted to go wide but didn't realize that wouldn't happen until it was too late

Welp I fucked up. How do I roll hard into playing Tall when I started everything up as playing wide? How the fuck do you even play wide? I have 3 colonies and it doesn't look like I'll be getting many more for a while

Nojokur
Nojokur

Speaking of things we're bitching about

can't terraform worlds you've colonized
can't build ringworlds in systems with inhabited worlds

The building system also feels rather shallow to me; I remember one of the best things in Galciv2/3 being how building large clusters of buildings would give bonuses. Building factories next to factories would give you more production for example.

As it is right now, Stellaris is just "put the right building on the right tile and be done with it".
I feel like it would be more interesting to reduce the amount of specific tile resources planets get (in favor of fewer but more powerful ones), while giving bonuses for intelligently constructing or specializing worlds.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

this game has mods?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

mfw the leader of the xenohugger faction is the emperor.
mfw so was his dad
mfw they keep boosting their numbers
I dont like this.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

it doesnt matter at all, its fucking nothing. Its like 5 minerals per month if you have like 50 pops .

cum2soon
cum2soon

You get a few less minerals. You basically dont notice it once you get a few good mines under your belt

iluvmen
iluvmen

How do I change my heir?

Flameblow
Flameblow

It scales with living standards.

+20% happiness = 2 minerals per pop
+10% happiness = 1.5 minerals per pop
+0% happiness = 1 minerals per pop
-10% happiness = 0.75 minerals per pop
-20% happiness = 0.5 minerals per pop

FastChef
FastChef

Let me claim I won the argument in a dismissive manner, without refuting the main point of course
Probably the funniest meme of the 21th century

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Why does the Ringworld consume all the planets in the system while the Dyson Sphere does not? You would think making a Dyson Sphere would be far more resource-intensive.

whereismyname
whereismyname

depends entirely on how far you're willing to propagate your species
if you use your species only its fairly crippling
if instead you combo it with decadent for a slaver overlord its fine

Flameblow
Flameblow

Long live the king
:^)

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

the small ship super powerful engines don't crush the ship itself

Because their superstructure is robust enough to cope with the thrust of their own engines? Same way the engines of a F18 don't launch themselves into the back of the pilot's fucking head the moment he hits the trap on an aircraft carrier and decelerates.

Think before you speak.

The neighboring SD is also slightly below the one being pushed. See;

TreeEater
TreeEater

Nice for egalitarian
Garbage for slavers

StonedTime
StonedTime

what does this mean you vague cunt, i need clear answers

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

the ringworld is made at a reasonable distance and is fairly solid
dyson sphere is right up the star's atmosphere and as thin as it can be

also in terms of gameplay balance a ringworld is drastically superior to a sphere

girlDog
girlDog

dawww, my cute weeaboo mushrooms launched their first satellite

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Not quite. Replace minerals with consumer goods and you got it. 1 goods = 0.5 minerals.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Did you never see the lion king?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Don't be butthurt about it, I refuted the point in the previous post, why would I need to repeat it just because you're searching for a goalpost to shift. Go time the fucking gap between them engaging their engines and point of impact if you want to argue the toss, but I guarantee you it isn't the 20 seconds you claimed it was.

DeathDog
DeathDog

star destroyer's hull crumples
rebel ship doesn't
jesus christ did they give the contract for that ship to the space jews

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

You cant change it, long may he reign.
:^)

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Right, so how do I kill my heir?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Speaking of things we're bitching about

can't terraform worlds you've colonized
can't build ringworlds in systems with inhabited worlds
I'm ready to purge all the humans on Earth so I can turn it into a Gaia world.
Also, I know building a Ringworld, Dyson sphere, and a dozen habitats would be op, but fuck you I want to pimp out my home system.

hairygrape
hairygrape

So, why are two km-wide space battleships so close to each? There's plenty of space around.

Star Wars

Ah, yes. I forgot that Star Wars works by Age of Sail rules mixed with WW2 fighters.

Snarelure
Snarelure

he

It's a she, I want a god-emperor not a god-empress. My species is enduring and add to that the fact the fact that she's got the damn resilient trait, I'm never getting rid of her am I?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Matriarchal trait when?

Lunatick
Lunatick

I want a god-emperor not a god-empress

shit taste desu

Techpill
Techpill

why do two destroyers colliding in ESB do no major damage but in rouge one apparently they get cut in half and explode?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

playing hivemind species
first empire I meet is using exactly the same species portrait

well fuck, how do I explain that one

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I... I guess I could get used to it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Never. Matriarchal societies never progress past the pastoralist stage.

Techpill
Techpill

I refuted the point in the previous post
No you just double-upped on your retardation by speculating that the EMP-bomb lasted much longer than it appear, thus letting the tiny ship build up speed for ages without any hull damage before pushing it into another SD (And then surprise, massive hull damage)

It's a nice spectacle, but not a very good scene

Methnerd
Methnerd

I suppose you don't understand how tugboats work either

SniperGod
SniperGod

why would it crumple when it's designed to penetrate?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

the most important part of being the empress of a thousand worlds is looking pretty

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

meh, the only good god emperors are worm-emperors anyways

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

REEEEEEEEEE

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Murder your kids.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Because they saw this shit happen in Rogue One and had reinforced their papier maché ships by the time of ESB to avoid it happening again?

TechHater
TechHater

it's a nice spectacle but not a very good scene
Well duh, it is star wars after all.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

24 ships
665K fleet power

What the everlasting fuck?

happy_sad
happy_sad

speculating that the EMP-bomb lasted much longer than it appear

They still have no power when they impact. Nice try, just outed yourself as not having watched the movie though.

Go watch it rather than just relying on other user's webms to craft you meme 'argument'.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

WE DINDU NUFFIN

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

The hell did you do to piss them off so much?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

In my empire the god empress is chosen from divine looking boys.
Yes the god empress is a god tier trap groomed to be the perfect trap.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Looks like he's using that mod where you play as an FE during their zenith.
You can make Gargantuan class ships which are meant to be doomsday weapons. Looks like they have one each.

Methnerd
Methnerd

*Snore , i wish i had taken that -growth time edict from ascension slots

Flameblow
Flameblow

Weebs btfo by based Xenos

FastChef
FastChef

When your whole race goes synth, how are new people born? Where do fresh human consciousnesses come from?

Any minds that get lost from server crashes, or suicide, would be an ex-human gone forever.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I wouldn't destroy the colony on my starting planet.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Diabolical and tasty

Soft_member
Soft_member

Well, you see, user. When to synths alpha, and a synth beta mixes their code together...

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

They can map and synthesize human conciousness. There's an actual project right now to accomplish that very thing.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

this is what singularity kiddos actually believe

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

this start

The God-Emperor is truly blessed

whereismyname
whereismyname

Not him, but the moon and the Earth operate on a different level due to their enormous mass creating gravity wells. A Star Destroyer is not massive enough to have gravitational mass. The moon is.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Same way the engines of a F18 don't launch themselves into the back of the pilot's fucking head the moment he hits the trap on an aircraft carrier and decelerates
Arrest wires are also designed to extend so the plane doesn't stop in a instant, also the tailhook is in the back for a reason.
Meanwhile the tiny sink sinks into the big one like the big one is made of paper.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Newfag here, what the hell is this? It's in a black hole system within my neighbor's borders, so I didn't get an event or anything.

takes2long
takes2long

Does an authoritarian xenophile with the goal to enslave all the cool species of the galaxy work?

Evilember
Evilember

can make whole race go synth
no option to start an AI hivemind
no option to forcefully mechanize other species
no special "upload only" ships or habitats
no option to stripmine your planets to hell and back now you no longer care about preserving the fragile ecosystem

so much missed opportunities

TechHater
TechHater

Stay out of that system until you can manage about 80k fleet power.
Make sure you jump from a system that puts you as close as possible to it when you do.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

They are not born. They are made. You manufacture people. Why leave it to chance when you can engineer the perfect mind?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

However the project turns out will be entertaining.
My money's on two identical conciousnesses cancelling each other out so when the computer conciousness is activated the dude its based on expires and both cease to exist.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

;_;7

happy_sad
happy_sad

For Stellaris is it possible to pirate just the DLC? just moving the dlc files to my steam location has them not show up in the launcher so I guess they authenticate another way.

iluvmen
iluvmen

should I do it?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

That's what you get for existing in any capacity.

whereismyname
whereismyname

producing more food on the planet causes pops on the planet to grow faster

WHAT IS THE POINT OF AN EMPIRE WIDE FOOD STORE THEN?

happy_sad
happy_sad

They still have no power when they impact.
Yeah that's my point. So either the magical EMP bomb lasted forever and this war-winning technology somehow got lost and forgotten for the next 4 episodes.
Or the bomb actually lasted a short-time and the ram-ship effectively pushed something 20 times their mass in the span of 20s
Sorry but I did watch it. And having to pick between wonky physics or magical plot point to justify what I was witnesssing wasnt really enjoyable.

Anyway your mind is clearly made on the subject, this is useless and of-topic, I'm out.

Inmate
Inmate

At least you can add cybernetic implants in the gene mod screen when you are still cyborg.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

that's celestine not female big E

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Actually the arrest wire is in the back because the plane would flip over if it was in the front.

Never mind the basic physics of how planes land nose up and tail down.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

yes it is.
The answer can be found somewhere in the last couple of threads. Good luck.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

that's one of the leviathans, a hostile one

basically they're boss level enemies that require a lategame fleet to take out (40k fleet strength give or take your chosen weaponry) and give very powerful rewards upon their defeat
spoilers actually to avoid spoiling everything
this one has a guaranteed jump drive technology and a massive boost to physics research as a reward as well as guaranteed dark matter in its singularity, however be careful with this thing it has literally infinite range so try to jump your fleet ontop of it

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Can someone upload the files of a mod to mega or something else like that for me?

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=903132430

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Is The Mandate ever coming out? I want my space RPG with ships which have internal deck plans.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Sentient AI on it's own is fine.
There's only a risk if you've also researched and manufactured Synths, researched Synthetic Personality Matrix and don't get the AI Accord event.
The AI Accord event requires you give Synths full rights and the more Synths you have the more likely it is to show up.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Growth is global and based on global food surplus.
If you have one planet making +18 and another doing -9 both will still have +0.3 pops per month.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

producing more food on an empire wide basis causes all pops on all planets to grow faster, not just that planet

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

IDIT IT I DID ITI I DID IT IDIDT ITIDIT IDIT IDIOT DILDO !!!!

Supergrass
Supergrass

Thanks, I'm going in.

farquit
farquit

STOP CAPPING INFLUENCE

It's dead

Nojokur
Nojokur

being this autistic

just because a plane can take the force of an engine pushing them forward doesn't mean they can take the force of an engine pushing them forward into a wall

in fact most jets have thrusts less than 1 G, an impact would probably be hundreds

you are a retard

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

sooo... Robots are 33% of my 258 population. Is that bad? Should I be scared? Never got this late into a game before, on Ironman too

girlDog
girlDog

I would serve with faith, dignity and honour.

farquit
farquit

that's another big issue
going cyborg is VASTLY superior to go going synth

iluvmen
iluvmen

dune memery

SniperGod
SniperGod

From the looks of things biological ascension will happen before synths

fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm551185.htm

FDA SHOCK REVERSAL!

Legalizes predictive Genetics test with no oversight. This new ruling opens the ground for direct to consumer Eugenics and Predictive Genetics industries. This is an incredible move.

"would allow other, similar tests to enter the market as quickly as possible and in the least burdensome way, after a one-time FDA review."

Transhuman genetic engineered babies are now possible legally in USA.

It is also theoretically and technically possible to create dumb catgirls with high libido

askme
askme

Dune memery is far superior to 40k memery

idontknow
idontknow

they dumbed it down considerably

sorry to kill the dream for you, at least we got some nice music

youtube.com/watch?v=HUArhjArumI

JunkTop
JunkTop

hm what does that give? I've only had it end with them succeeding

the rewards for that are pretty darn neat

askme
askme

Build none-robot defense armies on your planets, and have a 40-50k doomstack ready to wipe out the AI homeworld as soon as it pops up and you wont have any problems.

AI rebellions are really fucking easy to beat

Soft_member
Soft_member

the magical EMP bomb
still trying to pretend he's even watched this
can't work out what actually happened from his webms
finishes with le 'boring conversation anyway' meme

I'm glad you're finally admitting defeat, go actually watch the movie and stop shitting up the threads with your 'hurr physics doesn't maek sense' idiocy you cuck.

Inmate
Inmate

Build none-robot defense armies on your planets

oh... haha... thanks

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

They are running out of money. Dumbing it down or cancelling it is inevitable.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

all of them are fucking easy
if you remember to use PD the prethoryn fleet are a literal joke

WebTool
WebTool

I don't see how a simple genetic test could make a viable human feline chimera, and judging by reports from abductees it's no pretty sight anyway and I can guarantee you would not want to fuck one

3D will always be PD

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

adds +4 soc, eng and phsy to the gargantua black hole , gives 150 influence and the sentient AI tech ( +10% research speed )

very nice imo

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

How hard is the End of Cycle. Can it happen without the players triggering it?

askme
askme

start building ringworld
nearby xenophobic fallen empire has a shitfit because it thinks I'm building WMD's on it

okay this is hilarious
should I tell them to piss off or have their inspection?

farquit
farquit

It's dead
God damn it. I was looking forward to that game too.

Still have some hopes for Wayward Terran Frontier but that's not nearly as detailed a ship captaining simulator/RPG as I wanted.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

ah neat, the other reward is +10 soc, phy and eng to the new black hole and building a research station in orbit gives you +10% research speed ontop of sentient AI tech

Booteefool
Booteefool

Fallen Empires and normal empires react to megastructures? That said, I really want a weaponized Dyson Sphere.

King_Martha
King_Martha

DUDE
DRUGS
LMAO

viagrandad
viagrandad

research jump-drive
test it out by attaching it to science ship
send it on a 5-year survey mission
9 months in, Unbidden invade
Did... did I do that?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Holy shit.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

DUDE
HERESY
LMAO

massdebater
massdebater

Everyone can work up what happened in this webm : CGI and make-believe.
Now there's a special kind of retards that want to believe the physics shown is sound, more fun for them, but I personally have a hard time to "turn my brain off"

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Not dead yet. But it will be a shadow of what was promised or cancelled.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Hell of a drug man.

Yes, good work.
Were they in your space?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Some user a few threads ago claimed he saw the AI trigger it, but there were no proofs.
Depending on your galaxy setup, 1M fleet strength may or may not be something you can handle

5mileys
5mileys

you can only make 3 of them per planet with titanic life modifier so its not entirely op

that said its entirely possible for a gene warrior/titanic beast army to invade planets without the need to put a fleet in orbit

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

How come I never get any cool events when observing primitives?
Best I got was a scientist that 'disappeared' and pretended she was a god to them. That chain somehow spanned a couple hundred years. I think she really was a god.

WebTool
WebTool

Biological ascendants can gene mod species into food but can't gene mod elves into breeding livestock that no longer increase their own population but instead provide a growth boost to other species

wtf paradox?

eGremlin
eGremlin

in one of my games I found earth during the cold war, then they nuked themselves and wiped out the entire human race causing sapient cockroaches to take over

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Nah. They appeared on the exact opposite side of the galaxy from me, right in the middle of the other two biggest power blocs.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Same way the engines of a F18 don't launch themselves into the back of the pilot's fucking head the moment he hits the trap on an aircraft carrier and decelerates.
Interesting how different this video makes it look then.
youtube.com/watch?v=l7eI4vvlupY

massdebater
massdebater

I hate it when this fail
These overpowered fucker just rape and occupy your colony and if it's very early in the game you probably wont have the ground force to dislodge them

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

It was for settling a planet with titanic life, not observation posts.
Most the time when I use observation posts they tech up slowly then nuke themselves to death.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I cheated unity to reach full-on machine spirit status and a fallen empire I never met sent me a communication telling me I dun goofed. They react to everything.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Here you go user :3
mega.nz/#!404ySQrB!E1aZpGU9TgWdo_-3df1K4Ij1CvwhWfCNGAcJxfOrRNQ

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I didn't know you could observe that, I thought there was just a chance Earth would spawn as a Cockroach Tomb World.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

youtube.com/watch?v=YAg-WauGrLU&feature=youtu.be

Firespawn
Firespawn

its odd. It's supposed to be a genderbent emperor, because of the gold regal look, and the marines bowing, but it also has the sister of battle symbol. Clearly drawn by someone who doesn't properly know the lore.

FastChef
FastChef

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

RumChicken
RumChicken

You have to be pretending. No one can be this retarded.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The megastructures are an immense letdown tbqh

Ringworlds all have the same aesthetic
The current one works well enough for mammalian, but it'd be exceedingly easy to make assets that looked good for all the other aesthetics as well. Avian and Reptilian in particular.

Dyson Spheres are icosahedron
Enough said

Sentry Array and Science Nexus
Literally just giant stations; nothing "mega" about them.

You know what would have been fucking cool? If both Dysonspheres and the science megastructure were one in the same; Matryoshka brains.

build Dyson sphere, go through normal construction
give an actually useful amount of energy for the investment, somewhere between 500-1000
now given the option to build a second layer for some cost
second layer reduces energy output by 50%, but produces some insane amount of science (let's say 50 for the sake of argument)
can build third layer, reduces energy output by another 25% (for a total of 75%), but gives another 25 of each science
fourth layer reduces energy output to 0, but increases science to maximum.

Sentry Array could have literally been a system sized Dyson Swarm of observation satellites way out in the system's equivalent of an oort cloud.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Is the event where they join you random?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

No, because "xenophile" factions get -20 happiness if there are any xenos slaves anywhere in the Empire. They're perfectly fine with mass slavery of your own species, but they get really pissy if you enslave anyone else.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Building of ringworld can actually re-awaken Fallen empire
I dont know about other ascendency

Skullbone
Skullbone

how do I know its real

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

You will never have your race of tentacle monsters conquer a race of space elves and turn them into breeding sows.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Could just be language barrier.
Intoxication could explain it as well.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Because you can open the archive and it's a bunch of text files?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I hadn't heard anything about the mandate in years and I'm so starved for a space rpg that I started writing one last year. I'd have bought the Mandate if it was ever released, I've bought practically every space game released in the past 4-5 years in the hopes of finding something that was FTL+Escape Velocity Nova with RPG elements, npcs and some kind of storyline to follow.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

That's really fucking gay, xenophiles are true cucks

Evilember
Evilember

You can. Just make them livestock with fertile. They'll make food which boosts growth. Explains part well enough. Set them to not be able to reproduce themselves. Done.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Yep. When I do the robotic ascension path again I'm stopping at cyborgs. Synths are pretty shit because they don't passively generate new pops, can't migrate, and you have to manually build them on every world at cost. 100% habitability on all worlds is nice but it makes blobbing your empire extremely tedious.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

xenophobic fallen empires really REALLY take offense to the sensor station if they figure out you've built one

w8t4u
w8t4u

thanks

DeathDog
DeathDog

It could EASILY destroy all the end game crisis and all four of the Awakened Empires put together.
Praise it's divine might!

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

You broke the veil. Good job.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

np

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

not to mention you can still build synths getting 99% of the benefits of the ascension perk

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Holy Guardians send you a message. They see cyborgs and synths as unholy abominations. "Wicked cyborgs" penalty to opinion.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Don't worry, we'll get it soon as a mount & blade bannerlord mod

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

People aren't taking screenshots of all these events

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

They're perfectly fine with mass slavery of your own species, but they get really pissy if you enslave anyone else.
I was under the impression that the worst you can do to your founder species is Caste System, not full-on enslavement.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Yeah, it's a pain in the dick being a slaving faction and conquering anyone else, because by default you don't enslave everyone, you just enslave people working mines and farms and the rest are residents. But if you have free xenos anywhere in your empire this increases the attraction of xenophile ethics, meaning that you'll get a faction that starts out at like 0% happiness that's furious that you're mistreating the poor widdle aliens. They couldn't give a rat's ass that you're treating them exactly the same as you treat your own species. So when you conquer an alien species, you really need to enslave literally everyone and disperse them all across your empire, but you can't stop enslaving your own citizens because that'd piss off your Authoritarian faction.

Emberburn
Emberburn

What does it look like? Is there a video/pic of it?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yeah. Would be easy to fix, just make it so you can build synthetic assembly plants on worlds, and that synthetic colony ships turn into a synthetic assembly plant when they colonize a planet. It will automatically generate synth pops on that world. Should also make tech that reduces the time it takes to build robotic/synethetic pops.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Nobody cares if you genetically engineer your people with 7 points of traits. There's no events either. Felt like a waste of time.

RumChicken
RumChicken

somehow xenophiles don't take offense to my hivemind going around assimilating every species in the galaxy

guess the fact I'm obliterating their individuality and erasing their genetic records in favor of something more suitable to my needs is all okay as long as its not slavery

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

What's your favorite AI personality to:

Subjugate:
Trade:
Ally:
Kill/Conquer:
Marry:

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Found this on reddit when I was looking up information on it.
imgur.com/a/eCvur

It has it's own entry on the crisis page on the wiki
stellariswiki.com/Crisis#The_End_of_the_Cycle

WebTool
WebTool

Well that explains why I went authoritarian xenophile and had literally NO influence bonus and a lot of pissed off factions.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I was being unclear. I meant mass enslavement in the "enslaving lots of them" rather than "enslaving all of them" sense.

JunkTop
JunkTop

you sent me just the archive and not the .mod file

Inmate
Inmate

imgur.com/a/eCvur if you want to be spoiled of the entire event chain.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

honestly that should have been a major deal: techs to develop special buildings once you ascended to synth
the 2 other ascensions have shit like that

a fun tradeof could be that those buildings automatically decrease the habitability of the planet by existing to simulate you polluting the shit out of everything in the name of progress. Synths don't care about habitability so it would all be good.
Aside from maybe an opinion malus with some of the more xenophile empires around

King_Martha
King_Martha

Do xenophiles get pissed if you put ayys under caste system?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Caste system is really a misnomer. You have slaves and not slaves, that's it. They could do so much with a true caste system where you can have a priest or scientist class, military or peacekeeper class, merchant class, serf class, breeding sow class.

Slavery is never going to work properly if they don't redesign the entire civics system. Additionally they need to add a pop status window if they're going to keep with the pop management so you can see detailed information on the political leanings of each pop.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I wanted to make a military dictatorship where all the humans were scientists and all physical labor was done by robots but authoritarian is horrible if you don't partially enslave (caste) your own people. Wanted authoritarian to deport xenos but apparently it's more ritualistic tribal feudalism than a modern dictatorship.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I'd like it so if you built enough of the machine-buildings you can turn a planet into a "machine world" where only synths, droids, robots, and cyborgs can live.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Yes. If there are any alien slaves anywhere in the empire they get pissed. They also get pissed if ayys can't move freely, can't reproduce freely, and you allow unrestricted experimentation on pre-FTL species. This means that, if you just have the default rules for newly-conquered species, they'll start out at 0% happiness.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Just don't put humans on mines or farms?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Militarist xenophiles make the best allies.

WebTool
WebTool

It's supposed to be a genderbent emperor, because of the gold regal look, and the marines bowing
Yeah that could be because Celestine is a living saint anointed by the Emperor himself, and thus kind of holy.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

So, is it just a big fat monster with 1M of strength that goes around the galaxy killing things, or is there anything else to it?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

The *.mod file is inside the archive, are you perhaps challenged?

farquit
farquit

It gets stronger the more things it eats

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

all details were linked here

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

yup, you could do it with say an "industrial pollution" modifier that gets progressively worse the more buildings you build and once it hits a certain number say -80% habitation the planet is immediately terraformed into a machine world which is a renamed tomb world with say a modifier that gives a production bonus (10% energy/minerals) to mechanicals

however doing so immediately causes a diplo-hit with all spiritualist and xenophile empires and all fallen empires other than xenophobes (who don't give a shit) and turning a holy world into a machine world automatically causes the spritualist fallen empire to awaken and declare war on you

Methnerd
Methnerd

grey knights never bow to anything that isn't a custode/emperor. not to mention celestine looks vastly different.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

It's pretty apparent nobody at Paradox really tested authoritarian play styles at all. Because with the way factions are set up, it's pretty much impossible to actually make use of authoritarian mechanics. They totally removed any way to proactively suppress unwanted ethics, now you just click a "suppress faction" button and try to spam as much attraction to governing ethics as you can and hope the RNG doesn't make their faction grow despite this. I gave up playing authoritarian factions after 3 attempts all ended with a net zero influence gain due to spending all my influence trying to get rid of egalitarian and xenophile factions that prevented me from enslaving anyone.

Methshot
Methshot

Alternatively change it so that only fanatics get pissed enough to do something, while standards just take a mild happiness hit.

Oh wait, they removed the ability for pops to be fanatics as well as removed their ability to have two ethics because they couldn't "fix" the system so they actually made it worse.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Found the Cybrex anomaly in and around some other guy's territory.
He's probably already discovered some of their artifacts and ruined everything.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

yeah, she looks like a slut. But that's the artists' fault. Kudos for that

Illusionz
Illusionz

Authoritarian is a bad guy government though.
t. sweden

King_Martha
King_Martha

xenophobic fallen empire gets angry and declares war on me
have 10x their fleet strength sitting on their homeworld which I took in the last war
"we will feast on the flesh of your young automatons"

So xenophobic they don't even distinguish between the fleshy and metal aliens.

science nexus event
scientist volunteers to become brain in a jar
scientist is synthetic

If the event text was a little more generic it would've been fine, but it specifically mentions what is basically a brain vat.

I know I'm being autistic, but these flavor text things bother me. The hive mind stuff, also.

Techpill
Techpill

The AI can't do any of the precursors events unless I'm mistaken.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

They also need more ways to interact with pops, because the 1.5 update actually removed a lot of the features that allowed you to interact with them and made them into automated processes decided in the policy/species rights panel. Why shouldn't I, as a despotic authoritarian regime, not be able to persecute specific pops for their political beliefs? Is that not one of the defining characteristics of an authoritarian regime? The suppression of free thought? Why the fuck is authoritarianism completely lacking in any authoritarian traits?

takes2long
takes2long

NPC or multiplayer?
Computers don't get precursor quest lines. And Precursor anomalies keep spawning if no one has managed to find it.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I can't call Conformist a "good" trait but it's a bit helpful for avoiding annoyances. I almost never see a faction shrink in size outside weird special events so it seems like all Attraction to Governing Ethics does is prevent pops with the correct ethics from drifting. You can't even purge individual pops properly.

Now, one work-around I have noticed is that slaves can never belong to a political faction, so if you swap out all your slaves with angry xenophiles/egalitarians this can temporarily destroy the faction, but you have to be careful to grab slaves that don't belong to a conflicting ethic.

I just wish I could Purge a pop with an unaligned ethic to say "SEE THAT SHIT, NOW CUT IT OUT" to the rest of 'em.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I think the idea is to suppress rebellions with defensive armies more than politics. But yeah, it's self-defeating.

StonedTime
StonedTime

blood court
wew lad

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I've actually seen factions shrink in size, but I had to stack several attraction to governing ethics bonuses to achieve this. And it takes a really long time too. But of course it's also bugged, so if you forget to turn off the faction suppression and the faction disappears you will have a permanent -1 influence modifier for "suppressing (ethic)" that you can't undo because there's no faction to manage to change the setting.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

What would an End of Cycle style of ending would look like for cyborgs and mutants?

happy_sad
happy_sad

so it's slaanesh?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Respectfully disagree
It's bad enough having slavery in this game, paradox's finest and most promising title. We shouldn't enable the Trumps of the world by allowing avenues glorifying free thought suppression. If you disagree you are wrong.
t. upstanding Swedish citizen and father of my wife's sons Jamal and Abdul.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

There's another Shroud entity that's basically Slaanesh, so really this is more like the Fall of the Eldar without any specific Slaaneshi traits. Really it seems like the only Chaos god without an obvious shroud-counterpart is Nurgle.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

That emblem
The way the diagonal line is slightly off from the edge of the emblem
HOLY FUCK MY OCD

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Frogbros have learned the corvette meta

Firespawn
Firespawn

That's an edgy hunting party.

massdebater
massdebater

because every single gimmick in the game is already authoritarian so having authoritarianism as an ethic is moot. Seriously, egalitarianism shouldn't be in either because all it does is give you some other ways to force your authority unto your populace.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Oh god they're coming

last time I fought them they only had cutting lasers, now they have 80 torpedo corvettes

I'm scared

WebTool
WebTool

I love it when AI spams corvettes because then I get to actually use missiles.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

You are. AI get the same kinds of quest chains as the player. I've gotten 2 precursor homeworlds, stealing an AI's reward, thanks to a very aggressive scouting policy.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Wanting the catgirls to be dumb instead of faithful and affectionate.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I really like the look of reptilian ships, reminds me of homeworld.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Spam missiles bro. 2 destroyers aren't going to have enough point defense to screen out 60+ ships with missile launchers. Missiles are the hard counter to corvette spam.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Hey, strike craft are the most effective form of PD in my experience.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Missiles are great for fighting corvettes and early game space monsters but not much else. Kinetics are the meta weapon of choice because they have bonuses against both shields and armor. They are simply the best all around weapon choice and you can't go wrong with them. If they are stacking armor though, plasma cannons are a good option too along with kinetics to fuck up their shields.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

What's the trigger for new factions popping up? Aren't they all supposed to get activated at some point? Is it random?

eGremlin
eGremlin

It depends on your strike craft composition. If you use them as point defense then you'll want mostly fighter,s but you can also use them to fuck up enemy ships with bombers. Personally I use flagella since they have 100% shield penetration.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

That is also vulnerable to PD

iluvmen
iluvmen

play Stellaris for the first time in 6 months when Utopia comes out
go full synth run
having fun, dominating everyone with robo empire
finally get synths
can't give them rights because yet another Paradox Quality Update™
lost interest after that for a few days then decided to try a playthrough as fanatic purifiers
first star i explore has a gaia world on it
yes fucks yes
next star i find my first neighbor - another fanatic purifier
immediately declare war and let him give me warscore by throwing a constant stream of corvettes at my capital until he concedes defeat
exterminate his shitters from his relatively decent planet - ocean world while my pref is tropical
colonize gaia world
40 years of solitude and prosperity before i encounter anyone else
suddenly encounter everyone else at once
they're all in defensive pacts and shit so i just leave them be for now
5 years later get declared war on by a group of 3
a couple of days later get declared war on by the hivemind and his ally
took 20 years but i managed to beat them all back and win both wars forcing them to cleanse 3 planets each

Fanatic Purifiers a best

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Can you imagine seeing one of these things? Holy shit.

SniperWish
SniperWish

So far, I have seen that martials won't spawn until there's a war.

JunkTop
JunkTop

alright we've got the technology, done the maths, this is as close as we can observe a black hole

phew, what a scientific journey, thankfully it wasn't too difficult to murder every educated person in the colonies, now to draw scary cave paintings and kill myself, this way maybe nobody will ever discover the means to travel through space ever again

Snarelure
Snarelure

When your heir becomes emperor, declare war against a fallen empire and then immediately acquiesce to whatever their demands are.

I swear they assassinate my leader for fun whenever I'm forced to sign a peace treaty with them.

SniperWish
SniperWish

if I disband a transport ship with a certain troop type on it, what happens to it? Does the troop go to the nearest planet or do they get deleted?

hairygrape
hairygrape

10 pm
turns on stellaris
plays for literally 30 minutes
tabs out
4 am
anomaly detected

WebTool
WebTool

dlet

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

alright good, fuck off robo cunts

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

why is small ring galaxy hyperlane-only the best

girlDog
girlDog

At least before 1.5, the AI couldn't into avoiding systems like that, and it doesn't seem to take stations into account when determining relative military strength
Still doesn't. You can cheese openers extremely easily by placing a defense station on top of you space port and then leaving a weak fleet at the planet. They will suicide in until you have enough warscore.

hairygrape
hairygrape

2pm
wake up and start up stellaris
play for literally 30 minutes
tab out
4am
i've lost control of my life

Booteefool
Booteefool

thought I was the only one
what does this game have that it eats time like that? jesus, its not even that good

its just comfy

5mileys
5mileys

Me as well. Had a lot of time off work recently, and Stellaris has been draining 90% of it.

w8t4u
w8t4u

9 PM
play for 3 hours
"alright, it's midnight; two more hours and then I really need to go to bed"
play for 30 minutes
8 AM

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Playing Stellaris for the first time, about 10 hours into my first campaign and I've been using explosives the entire time, got them upgraded to level 3 right now and also researched torpedoes.

Am I fucking up, or are explosives good?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

tfw you get desperate to stop the unbidden's advance for long enough for an awakened empire to save your bacon
My desperate strike at their portal cost me my entire fleet, and I only managed to get it down to 1/3rd of its hp before I got swarmed.

Fuck i've already lost two systems before they got busy elsewhere. IVE GOT TO BUY MORE TIME

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

2pm
play stellaris
play for 30 minutes
tab out
2pm15
Why do I bother playing that game if I'm not having fun?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Don't FE only become guardians of the galaxy upon the crisis starting?

Nojokur
Nojokur

research into something else too, explosive alone wont cut it late game

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

2pm15

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yes. One of them already is, but they don't seem to be pushing the unbidden, just stalling them.

WebTool
WebTool

You know those black holes you keep looking at?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

should i max out the explosives first, or should i move onto energy/kinetic now?

also, am i best to have ships with mixed weapon types, or have for example; 1 destroyer purely explosives and 1 destroyer purely energy/kinetic?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Did the guy who did Fallen London write the flavor for the Shroud events?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Whispers in the Void.
Composer of Strands.
Eater of Worlds.
Instrument of Desire.

So the Shroud is definitely inspired by the Warp and you are doing faustian dealings with the Chaos gods all the time. The only missing one is the: End of the Cycle (Malal?)

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

R8
H8
Appreci8

No backstory cus I haven't thought of one yet, based pretty heavily on Forerunners.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

different roles. Like Plasma and lances is better on battleships because they mostly fight other battleships and they have the most armor.
Autocannons are probably best DPS choice on corvettes, though can take torpedoes too, best if energy torpedoes.
Want flak on destroyers to serve as your PD.

Just avoid strike craft, missiles and normal torpedoes.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

attack Unbidden portal location
annihilate their fleet
shred the anchors and station
sodomise a fleet that came through the portal
still can't do anything to the portal
Don't know what happened there. And during my confusion, all their reinforcements show up, coming from every direction. An 84k fleet and two 56k fleets.
Had to hard jump outta there.

Dunno what's going on with them anchors.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Torpedos and disruptors

Why? Torps ignore shields anyway.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Just avoid strike craft, missiles and normal torpedoes.
fug, wish i'd known from the beginning

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

That lightning spinal mount must be the best weapon. Ignores every defense and goes straight through the hull. Doesn't miss.

Looks and sounds sexy as fuck.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

that was them m8, not me. Guess Paradox haven't researched Sentient AI yet.

viagrandad
viagrandad

The
Lad, pls.

SniperGod
SniperGod

How do I use the weapons that go into the X slot?

Nojokur
Nojokur

How easy is it to cut parts out of a mod? Like there's this mod with a gorllion name lists and I like some of them but I don't need 100 of the things cluttering up my UI.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

So, what's this about Caste System slavery only working on your primary species?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I don't even get it why they added megastructures in the game. Mid game was the most laking part and it still is. Also all the magic and wonder about ringworlds is now gone. Because you can build one yourself after a century or so.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Tzeentch
Nurgle
Khorne
Slaanesh
Pretty much

Firespawn
Firespawn

edit the text file and remove a few lines , simple as that , save the original somewhere in case you fuck up

If the mod uses a yes/no opener like 0 or 1 , true /false , then change it to the opposite to disable that line

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I wish the Shroud had been less unambiguously evil, desu. Make it a world inhabited by both good and evil spirits, not just horror monsters that want to skullfuck reality.

w8t4u
w8t4u

tfw the Unbidden has been stuck in a fucking tiny system without expanding
What happend to the end crisis? I remember when they would just consume half the galaxy upon arrival.

idontknow
idontknow

My only consolation is the AI empire that caused this is getting butt fucked.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Illusionz
Illusionz

Do I have to do anything to stop workshop from automatically updating the thing every time it redownloads mods?

Evilember
Evilember

The real end game crises' are now end of cycle and wars in heaven

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

having a fun-filled game
really enjoying myself
doing good things and having a good time
some AI cunt invents a jump-drive and rips a hole in the galaxy, spewing horrors everywhere
Thoroughly uncomfy.

Inmate
Inmate

what is the best ost and why is it in memory of mercedes romero
youtube.com/watch?v=xDJJ8BsRvVc

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

ya'll got abducted tonight sorry to say

Playboyize
Playboyize

Okay, so I'm excited about this - it's going to be fun. It's already happening.

synths are a stretch, but cyborgs are already very close with the smartphone. All that needs to happen is to plug that phone directly into your brain.

The thinking/information/awareness network will be a system (already is, if you ask me; more bots on the 'net than people) of synthetic and organic mixed together:

youtu.be/aR5N2Jl8k14?t=712

And, of course, we can have synthetic prosthetics designed and built that we can control just like any real appendage:

npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/08/519235038/researchers-take-a-step-toward-mind-controlled-robots

My buddies from college always talked about how there will be a great divide/conflict/war between cyborgs (or just straight Terminator robots) and the genetically ascended, but I think it's all going to blur together to the point that this duality mindset of biological and synthetic will pass like the old philosophies of "the four elements of nature" and other such nonsense before the Theory of Relativity and modern science.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Research megacannons or particle lances, install them on X slot. Enjoy spinal mounted weapons.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Celestial Heir gets Chosen One trait
Now I can truly fuck the xeno, the mutant, the heretic.

Methshot
Methshot

I wondered why my ass was sore...

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I just wanted to be robutt isolationists.

How the fuck do I get the mega structures technology to pop up, i've done almost everything as far as engineering research goes and im sitting on an ascendance perk that i cant use waiting on muh dyson sphere

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

What would an End of Cycle style of ending would look like for cyborgs and mutants?

If you want to just lazily copy the mechanics I can imagine the synthetic version being a project-event where you attempt to create a matrioshka brain but it All Goes Horribly Right, creating a mobile super-intelligent planet-brain (basically a hyper Infinity Sphere) with 1M fleet strength that tries to go full Reaper on the galaxy.

For bio, the same thing: you try to create the Perfect Biological Being but it ends up growing out of control and becoming a 1M fleet strength voracious spaceborn tentacle monster.

eGremlin
eGremlin

synthetic ascension
thank fuck maybe then I can finally stop feel

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It is also theoretically and technically possible to create dumb catgirls with high libido

Yes, and morally abhorrent.

We'll be wiped out by 1%'er ubermensch and their drone armies long before gene editing gets that advanced anyway.

While Joe Chucklefuck is spending his life savings to make sure his kid doesn't have any genetic diseases or fucked vision, the ultra-wealthy will be rapidly increasing their offspring's IQ and lifespan with each generation, making the predisposed to perfect physical health and peak human mental and physical capabilities.

You think social mobility is fucked now, wait until the guy who owns the company you work at doesn't just believe he's superior, but genuinely is superior to you in every concievable way

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

dyson spheres are shit senpai, it's better to get ring worlds.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Which I also need the mega structures tech for.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

You wouldn't want to try and splice humans with cats, it'd be really hard. But you could encourage cat-like phenotypical traits using regressive traits from our ancestry, like the chickens they got to grow teeth.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The second immortality becomes available, everyone will get it.

Otherwise the "immortals" will have a lifespan measured in hours as they get lynched by angry poorfags, and they know it.

askme
askme

Oh, user. You hopelessly deluded fool.

idontknow
idontknow

Otherwise the "immortals" will have a lifespan measured in hours as they get lynched by angry poorfags

That's what autonomous killbots are for. Solves the problem of uppity plebs ruining everything like they have throughout history.

Plus, no one in their right mind would invent an immortality treatment. No second-sale ability. Marketing would throw a fit. Life extension technology means your customers need to keep returning to add an extra few years onto their expectency.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Not convinced.
Autonomous drones with guns means rich plutocrats no longer need employees.
They'll just live up in their mountain fortresses, interacting with the world only to snatch the prettiest peasant girls to daterape before sending them back to the slums with a belly full of rich-poor halfbreeds

TechHater
TechHater

stay out of my system unbidden
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

cum2soon
cum2soon

No, it's just a fact. That's what will happen.

Do you think rich countries have welfare nets because rich people are kind? No, they have them because otherwise poor people will kill them.

askme
askme

So what's the best Traditions to go for early?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I hope the Hive Mind play gets some love and attention. It's seriously lacking in events. The writing of many existing notifications are written in a way that makes no sense for a hivemind.

I want to play an enigmatic Hive Mind who protects the galaxy from these ancient alien threats.
It'll still be a meanie and keep trying to assimilate other species when it gets bored, but most of the galaxy could rest assured that their insane, indecipherable guardian is constantly watching over them. Constantly.

Methshot
Methshot

Help , i have 5 worlds and 42 fleet cap
Choosing between 200 fleet cap OR the first spy ascension perk

Can I even win a war vs two fanatical purrifieres alone without the extra cap ?

eGremlin
eGremlin

kill all the plebs
have to till the land yourself with your delicate piano hands

bad idea

Skullbone
Skullbone

Pretty sure it's other way around, if the first one will be anyone not belonging to a rich circlejerk, they will end up in Mai-chan's Daily Life scenario.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Is there a way to remove spaceport modules? Even if by cheating?

idontknow
idontknow

robots dude , or if production is still too expensive Haitians

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Discovery.

Always Discovery.

Because Planetary Survey Corps.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Exactly. They'll point us at each other. By promising immortality to some if they help defend them against the rest. Then you don't have to actually honour that because the fighting will go on for so long that they'll eventually forget why they were even fighting each other.

girlDog
girlDog

So these dickheads don't want me colonizing tomb worlds, yet I've only just met them. They are on the other side of the galaxy, with loads of people in between. What do? Tell em to fuck off? My fleet is only 20k.

Inmate
Inmate

You're not taking into account how automated our militaries are becoming. You're right that the massive difference in numbers between the rich and poor has historically kept the rich in check, but that's becoming less true.

Soon they won't need tens of thousands of human troops (who are usually squeamish about wanton murder of their peers) to enforce their rule. A few private security goons in a command centre giving orders to 400,000 infantry combat drones can police the general population, and if you decide a cull is needed, won't hesitate to follow the command, unlike human troops.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Build spaceports around all planets and upgrade them.

massdebater
massdebater

other side of the galaxy
They don't care. They will send their doomstacks after you, because they have Jump Drives.

Inmate
Inmate

Robotic labour > Pleb labour.

Robots don't revolt because you've got sixteen super yachts and they can't afford a car to get to their shitty job. As soon as robotics get even close to being able to do 99% of human jobs, you better believe those 99% start to look like nothing but a massive drain on the economy and a distabilising threat to society to the remaining 1%.

Bidwell
Bidwell

whose gonna build and maintain the robots?

idontknow
idontknow

I've openly defied FEs on the opposite side of the galaxy and never had any issues with them.
Usually because there's one or two buffer nations that'll have their borders close to them and are much too large to jump over.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Don't need to actually use your killbots to kill them all. Just enough to stop them getting any ideas.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Robots don't revolt because you've got sixteen super yachts and they can't afford a car to get to their shitty job.
And you are 100% sure some bug (or even a virus) will not fuck your rich ass?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

and this is why people should be worried that certain mega corps and known eugenicists billionaires are consolidating their influences around big pharma , all kinds of food production , gene research AND robotics

The Bill gates - Rothschild - Monsanto-Bayer Zionist mega corp will cull humanity to 10% of its size when they reach top technology , they already own ways to liberate OR produce bacteria/virus that target specific populations

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Other robots/a small number of proles.

You honestly think anyone with an automated army, largely automated means of production and genetic superiority is going to keep hundreds of millions of plebs around on welfare (since robots stole their jawbs), shitting up their environment, committing crime and demanding social mobility?

Techpill
Techpill

Using the fortress delaying tactic against the Unbidden isn't very useful because the Unbidden are never in a rush to get anywhere.
I find the best tactic is to use the Soviet strategy: relocate your production centers as far away from them as possible, and practice defence in depth until you've built up a big enough fleet to go 5D-huntin'.
You've got a huge energy excess, so it's not like them eating half your empire is going to cripple you economically.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

what economy will be left when robots take over 99% of jobs? You don't have to pay robots, and when it gets to the point where robots are intelligent enough to take over a majority of work, it means they can be self-sufficient, creating a vacuum where you don't need to do anything, which means that you wouldn't need to do shit like culling humanity or whatever because there would be no reason to. Money would be worthless at that point because self-sustained robots=infinite wealth and prosperity.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

robots are incredibly inefficient

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I mean, as a thing, I think megastructures are fine, but not in the way they implemented them.

They're definitely end game, but a very "mundane" end game thing; the dyson sphere gives you alltogether negligible energy for anyone who manages to build one, and the nexus gives you fuck all for science.
The ringworld is nice, but again, it's mundane.
The only one that's even "fun" is the sentry array, simply because of the utility it gives you.

If I had my way, in addition to what I posted before, I'd do the following.

Science nexus combined with dyson sphere to make Matryoshka Brain
Full upgraded dyson sphere gives +1000 energy; each stage gives +250 energy and costs 50,000 minerals
can build up to four matryoshka shells around it
each shell is built in one stage, and costs 100,000 minerals
each shell reduces energy produced by -250 energy, but increases research speed by +25%

increase the cost of the ringworld frame and sections to 30,000 each
Ringworlds have four habitation sections and eight utility sections
habitation sections lack tile resources like natural planets, but instead can be built as specialized sections
Industry sections give, say +20% mineral output
and the same for solar sections, agrarian sections, and research sections
the eight remaining utility sections can each be chosen of the following; all can be stacked
Defense Section: approximately equivalent in firepower to 15 battleships; can be outfitted in the ship design screen, would have a large variety of XL, large, medium, and small weapon slots.
Shipyard Section: equivalent to a T6 spaceport, +25% build speed and -25% build cost bonus to shipbuilding, still has space for 6 modules
Capacitor Section: flat +10% bonus to energy produced by all sections on ringworld
Refinery Section: flat +10% bonus to mineral produced
Procession Section: same as above, for food
Computer Section: same as above, for research
Etc
You get the idea

farquit
farquit

what mods?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Stellaris mod archive is a piece of shit with those folder names, so can someone just tell me which ones are the fallen empires expanded and flexible core planet ones?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

if they've taken over 99% of jobs, they won't be inefficient at that point. They'll have to be very smart and completely autonomous.

eGremlin
eGremlin

So you have an army of self-replicating self-serving robots just to make plebs stay away from your property. This implies a human-like AI. Why do you think it won't consider post-cull humanity a fifth wheel at some point?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Sounds cool but i doubt that such Utopian (hue) conditions will happen with the kind of people that we still have around and the monumental differences between our species

We could use nerve stapling though nut only IF the leaders are not ass hats

WebTool
WebTool

That's a risk, but revolt from the poor has pretty much been a given eventually in all human societies, either from outside or within the society.

Society-wide robotic malfunction is a relatively minor concern by comparison.

Movie like Terminator make us think the threat from AI is that it'll go rogue and kill us all. It's not really. Like says, it's more than a very small number of people will control a perfectly functional AI, and use it's transhuman capabilities to monitor, control and potentially cull the humans who don't have access to said super-AI.

Terminators coming round to disintegrate you probably won't be from some rogue AI that freaked out when they tried to switch it off, much more likely they come round to escort you for humane and orderly disposal because your labor is no longer required and you represent an unneccesary drain on the economy/environmental pollution footprint.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Stellaris HOTFIX
ends up making weird changes to my empire in my savegame

Uhh... good job?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Nah, but i do have improved space battles install the (((balanced))) version

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

And this is an issue, because?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Because you'll have programmed it properly. You'd have to be a spectacularly shitty programmer to create a program that doesn't just not work, but actively tries to kill you.

Not saying it's impossible, but it's unlikely.

Lunatick
Lunatick

you wouldn't need to do shit like culling humanity or whatever because there would be no reason to. Money would be worthless at that point because self-sustained robots=infinite wealth and prosperity
But some things you just can't do with the human population at the levels it is now.
"Sustain the environment" is one of them.
Also you're making a big claim with "infinite resources".
No pie is so big that you can't increase your own share by reducing the number of people you divide it between by 90%.
Finally, and most importantly, the problem with a vast underclass of plebs is not so much that they consume resources as it is that they MIGHT overthrow you. Having an army of killbots reduces this chance, but having an army of killbots AND culling the proles down to just the 10 million sexiest, most submissive women amongst them reduces it much further.

viagrandad
viagrandad

because conspiracy theories. it isn't how the world would work at all, but people love thinking about apocalyptic futures.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Some of us aren't the 1% of the 1% and don't want to be culled ;__;

tfw the neets will be the first to go

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

finally starting to get the hang of stellaris and survive the pirates
militant isolationists pop up right next to my second frontier outpost and come knocking

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

wormhole access treaty only lets you build wormhole stations in their space not use their stations
if it expires all your stations are instantly destroyed
getting real tired of your shit paradox

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

it isn't how the world would work at all

No? History is pretty much a chain of oligarchies and despots, usually only held in check by the need to maintain the loyalty of their people to support their lifestyles.

You don't think being able to manufacture perfectly loyal machines that can fill most roles a man could will change that dynamic at all?

Snarelure
Snarelure

You'd have to be a spectacularly shitty programmer to create a program that doesn't just not work, but actively tries to kill you.

This is not the consensus of AI researchers and academics.
The consensus is that it requires immense care to code an AI that *doesn't* want to kill you.
Wanting to Destroy All Humans really is the default mode of machine intelligence.

See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence

RumChicken
RumChicken

Pls respond. The game is not playable if you are forced to use sectors, and mega does not allow me to search within subfolders.

girlDog
girlDog

crabbed.jpg

DELETE THIS

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Well yes, but why would the one percent survive the culling? Power would be shifted towards people who design, build, maintain and control the killbots and the one percent are by and large not capable of any of those things.

girlDog
girlDog

I don't know whats up with your fetish for killbots and shit, but your fantasy isn't going to play out.
Put it this way. If robots have taken over 99% of jobs, the world is going to be a hell of a lot different compared to now. Sustaining the environment is going to be easy if this is the case, because there won't be any fossil fuels, or anything that can harm the environment. If humanity has reached that point, they would have colonized multiple planets by then, along with asteroids and colonies in space. If you have self-sustaining, autonomous robots, you could easily mine out the asteroid belt, comets, etc, and by that point you will have infinite plenty in terms of power generation (which would be required to have 99% of jobs on earth be taken by robots) which would result in infinite food and resources, easily. Why do you think the rich would even be capable of using up 99% of the resources if they, for some reason, culled everyone else?

viagrandad
viagrandad

removing a vast majority of the sub-human proles
apocalyptic

You were going to die anyways, and I can't think of a better way than being humanely sterilized and slowly having your population age out.
Better work hard and get in the top 5%, user.

happy_sad
happy_sad

misunderstanding inertia this much
god this is so cringey. i take it this is rogue one? fucking trash

Flameblow
Flameblow

Bump.

My 'lovable monsters' slave-owning build depends on sectors being able to enslave responsibly.

StonedTime
StonedTime

is flak worth researching?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

because at that point the dynamic of how people view the universe will have changed dramatically. Why would the rich give a fuck about people living below them when they have infinite resources at their disposal, because of self-driven robotic armies who can do whatever their master wills? Lets say we build a dyson sphere around the sun, creating almost infinite energy for practically the rest of human existence. Why would the rich care about people using up a bit of infinite energy on earth, when they barely use any up themselves?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

search the name of the mod in steam stellaris workshop , the url will have the code number for the mod , something like 6842342 or 723434 then you use that number to ctr-f the mod in the stellaris mod archive Or the seach bar at skymods.ru

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Sustaining the environment is going to be easy if this is the case, because there won't be any fossil fuels, or anything that can harm the environment.
If you think robots don't require power or metals, well, I don't know what to tell you.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Embracing a random faction caused my empire to loose xenophobic thus making agrarian inwards perfection non fictional

Just shot me in the balls sempai

Techpill
Techpill

It doesn't have to be Terminator for AI to add 2 and 2 and find out that human is a weakest link. And since in his scenario robots do absolutely everything plebs do, they will be smart enough to come to this conclusion.
And you are 100% sure you have 100% loyal programmers for 100% maintenance time? Take note if you add too much of human factor, your oligarchy (not as a type of government, but your reign specifically) can end swiftly for any bullshit reason, like a lead programmer doing it for lulz or you looked at him funny in the morning once.

SniperGod
SniperGod

General AI needs to be sentient, not sapient. What you linked only applies if for some reason you want a sapient machine.

So yeah, your robowaifu might try to kill you because she thinks she's a real girl, but if you just want a machine that can monitor 400 million citizens for disloyal behaviour 24/7, you have absolutely no reason for it to be sapient.

Stuff like the paperclip thought experiment is interesting, but not a major issue. All you need to do is give your AI a function where it explains HOW it's going to solve a probelm prior to you giving it the go ahead to solve it. So if it's solution is 'I'm going to turn the Sun into a giant inert block of matter for reasons', you don't give it the go ahead to solve your problem.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

you do know theres such a thing as solar and wind, as well as asteroids, comets, and general space debris full of natural resources? Why is everything centered only around earth, as if its the only place available?

Nojokur
Nojokur

I agree we need to exploit fairylands reserves of pixiedust right away

Methshot
Methshot

Why would the rich care about people using up a bit of infinite energy on earth, when they barely use any up themselves?

Not to go /pol/ on you, but I don't know how you can seriously ask this question when liberal atheists want poor Republican voters to starve to death in order to teach them a lesson on their "backwards, bigoted, religious ways".

Remember your Machiavelli, user. If men do not make war for necessity, they make war for ambition. I know that if I was a man with infinite resources I'd still put furries to death out of disgust. While simultaneously fucking my harem of genetically modified dumb libidinous catgirls; I don't need logical consistency when I have a drone army

iluvmen
iluvmen

Power would be shifted towards people who design, build, maintain and control the killbots

Power would shift to the people who own the killbots and the means to produce them, not the random proles they hire to work in the factories.

The techies who design and innovate will just be part of the class that controls them, because they'll own the companies and get hideously rich, but as you point out, this is a very tiny group of humanity.

Plus, as we've mentioned, genetic engineering could well mean that the one percent ends up mentally outclassing baseline humanity by a large degree after even a few generations.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

nice argument.

Inmate
Inmate

Why would the rich give a fuck about people living below them when they have infinite resources at their disposal

Environmental concerns would be my guess.

if you add too much of human factor, your oligarchy can end swiftly for any bullshit reason, like a lead programmer doing it for lulz

Only if you're short sighted enough to only have one type of robot, designed by one man. Divide and rule still applies in this scenario.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

So if it's solution is 'I'm going to turn the Sun into a giant inert block of matter for reasons', you don't give it the go ahead to solve your problem.
All you've done here is turn it into a game of "Can I trick this dumb human who thinks 4,000 times slower than me using a brain one millionth of my capacity, to sign off on a plan which appears to provide the perfect solution to his problems but actually has some longterm failure mode that will result in me gaining control of the world"
HMM I WONDER IF SYNTHBOT5000 CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Why would you embrace a random faction?

RavySnake
RavySnake

i'm sure you're aware of the durasteel improvements the mon calamari have instructed the rebellion to use on their rammers????

Evilember
Evilember

So yeah, your robowaifu might try to kill you because she thinks she's a real girl, but if you just want a machine that can monitor 400 million citizens for disloyal behaviour 24/7, you have absolutely no reason for it to be sapient.
Who is gonna make, and maintain, the list of disloyal behaviour?
Only if you're short sighted enough to only have one type of robot, designed by one man. Divide and rule still applies in this scenario.
So you expect 100% loyal robots designed by different (sometimes conflicting) people?

JunkTop
JunkTop

It is the best PD in the game so yes.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

what environmental concerns would happen? If we get to that point, we would have colonized several other planets at that time, would have infinite energy from the sun (meaning no fossil fuels, and infinite energy means extreme waste disposal, possibly creation of matter from the energy leading to infinite plenty)
not to mention if this was the case, most of the 1% wouldn't even exist anymore, simply because the robots wouldn't need any sort of real management or hierarchy. Since they're, well, robots. And if robots took everyones jobs, there would be no real currency, because there would be no jobs, meaning that there would be no competition, so no marketing, etc etc.

Skullbone
Skullbone

That's a hammerhead cruiser of knights of the old republic era, it's beyond a museum piece and more of a 5000 year old relic. Also one more reason to hate the rebels, they stole priceless antiques and used them in their war.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

But the machine isn't a human. It's not received it's instruction yet, so it has zero motivation to trick you into telling it to destroy the Sun. That would require sapience and malice.

GAI isn't a person in a box, it's a tool. It's a machine that performs a function. If rather than having it be a simple Instruction>Execution system you have an Inquiry>Instruction>Execution system, you've stopped it having any means of doing something you don't want it too because you gave it a dumb instruction.

Sentience isn't sapience.

Not to mention the fact you can program in (not infallible, but at least reasonably secure) safety buffers like 'Are you sure you want to [KILL HUMANITY] to solve this problems Y/N'.....you know, like our primitive 21st century computers have to stop us from telling them to delete that 10,000 word essay we just wrote and having them execute it immediately without warning.

Supergrass
Supergrass

That's what I've been doing. I'm building habitats.

What's frustrating is that a hive on the other side of the galaxy is becoming FE tier stronk while the rest of us have to deal with the unbidden.

I'm almost sure I'll be able to deal with the unbidden, its the hive empire afterwards that I'm worried about.

girlDog
girlDog

I spawn the Unbidden
On the opposite side of the spiral galaxy
Haha faggots

iluvmen
iluvmen

infinite energy
Wrong; it'd be a loto f energy, for sure, but would ultimately shrink in proportion to human energy needs.

And if robots took everyones jobs, there would be no real currency, because there would be no jobs, meaning that there would be no competition, so no marketing, etc etc.
Humans don't change; near-infinite resources simply mean the logistics of war and competition just got simpler.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Who is gonna make, and maintain, the list of disloyal behaviour?

....the AI...I thought that was clear.

So you expect 100% loyal robots designed by different (sometimes conflicting) people?

No, I expect you to hire more than one guy to maintain your army of killbots, so they can monitor each others work, just like real companies do today. You don't just give one guy the keys to the kingdom because he could rob you of everything and you'd have no way of knowing.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Spiral
uh..

DeathDog
DeathDog

Actually playing donut galaxies

I feel physically ill just looking at it

Inmate
Inmate

Ring. Couldn't think of the name
Only way I could guarantee limited border space as Fanatic Purifiers

Illusionz
Illusionz

He's playing future-germans. His post is in-character.

iluvmen
iluvmen

He's playing future-germans

Turks?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Anyone know why my subscribed mods don't show up in my stellaris launcher? What's the best way to copy my mods from my legit steam version to my all dlc unlocked version?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

My 'lovable monsters' slave-owning build depends on sectors being able to enslave responsibly.

Pic related. I've retooled them a bit so they can settle every kind of planet and therefore encourage more migration treaties.

So long as a single Shiyr is on the planet, every other species gets a bonus to happiness while they toil away in the mines.

RumChicken
RumChicken

That would require sapience and malice.
This. Why do people assume AI would want to intentionally overthrow or destroy mankind anyways? For what purpose? That'd require for it to have some sort of goal of its own due to the programmer being a retard and giving the AI shit such as human-like emotions, free will and desire for personal freedom, then being a dick and deriving the AI of those things it desires. The human developer would have to plant shit like that on purpose.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

xenophile+authoritarian
Your factions is are going to hate you.

SniperWish
SniperWish

How's that?

I /love/ aliens!

Especially when they toil in my mines.

Snarelure
Snarelure

youtube.com/watch?v=3TYT1QfdfsM
Making an AI with a goal and having it want to complete that goal in a way that is favorable to you is difficult, especially if it's aware of it's environment.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Is there anyway i can choose the appearance for my syncretic evolution species?

Bidwell
Bidwell

desu i wished this update would've focused more on orbital structures to make systems more interesting. like... add a central resource processing/storage plant for each system that increases resource yields/decrease costs of stations. can eventually be upgraded to have habitats that can be focused on specific functions like science. eventually they can lead to more interesting things like sensor array or science nexus, which should've been more mid-game projects.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Just finished uplifting the 3rd species in a single game, a world record. AMA

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Not to mention the fact you can program in (not infallible, but at least reasonably secure)

This is where all the problems lie, though. The devil really is in the detail.

Tell it not to kill all humans?
"OK, I'll just shoot them, technically exsanguination kills them"
Tell it not to shoot anybody?
"Nerve gas it is"
Tell it not to kill anybody?
"The economic consequences of my actions will inevitably result in some deaths. Robert Smith of 724 Wichita Ave. is identified as very sentimental about his mining job and has a 78% chance of self-termination if he is replaced by a robot miner even if I give him a $1,000,000 severance package"
Tell it to disregard suicides in its moral calculus then?
"OK, I will give all humans a cyanide pill and proceed to torture them non-fatally until they take it"
No torture!
"The UN Declaration of Human Rights defines torture as encompassing psychological torture and includes deprivation of family visitation as a form of torture. Refusing me to resort to torture will require me to relocate all humans on earth to proximity to their family unit"
Disregard denial of family visitation as a form of torture
"The UN Declararion of Human Rights also places under the umbrella of psychological torture as the general denial of a family life. As such I am unable to assign human overseers to the asteroid mines because I cannot guarantee continuity of service for travel to and from Ceres in order to make Little Suzie's birthday"
Lower threshold for required space travel reliability to 50%
"Acknowledged"

*Recodes space mining transport piloting routines so there's a 49% chance of each of the 10 million transports crash landing with the kinetic force of a 600 megaton nuke into a population center on every course correction*

"Heh, nothin personnel, kid"

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

are there any prerequisites for megaengineering like the better military station tech, or is it purely random?

Soft_member
Soft_member

This; Habitats, Sentry Arrays, and Science Nexii definitely feel like mid game stuff while ringworlds and spheres are late game.
There should also be some function of physical trade in the game, civilian ships and all, to make piracy and interdiction an actual problem rather than just an annoyance. Trade stations, etc and so forth.

Another thing that'd be cool to see is both local and global resources; spaceports and planets only have a given amount of minerals and food, for example, and as such they need to be moved around between planets by (automated) supply ships.

Cutting off a section of your empire would eventually starve it of minerals and food if it didn't produce its own, and it would mean that front-line spaceports would require clear support lines to continue their production during war.

On an unrelated note, a cool mid-late game tech would be FTL gates. A mix between wormhole and hyperspace, ships can travel between any other gate instantaneously over any distance, but they need to be built like wormhole stations.
Unlike wormholes, however, they're not an actual drive-tech, and so can be used in conjunction with warp, hyperspace, or normal wormhole.

Supergrass
Supergrass

you need fortress tech I believe

WebTool
WebTool

Material Authoritarians. Yay or Nay?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Not him but go read I, Robot.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

having it want to complete that goal
want

This implies emotion. i.e. sapience, which would need to be consciously programmed in. And you'd never sell that AI, anymore than you'd sell a toaster with emotions that refuses to toast anything some mornings because it's feeling blue.

People anthropomorphize hypothetical AI too much. The machine won't WANT to solve your problems, and therefore go out of it's way to deceive you into giving it problems that challenge it or resist you violently if you attempt to avoid giving it certain problems.

It'll solve the problem because that's it's function. Input to output, no emotions required. Intelligence doesn't require emotion, humans only have both because we're animals and needed to survive and socialise. Without emotion, our intelligence would be useless, we'd sit in one place and starve to death, because though we'd be aware, with our intellect, that we were starving to death, we wouldn't have any emotional response to that, so we wouldn't attempt to avoid it since what's the difference in being alive or dead unless you can feel fear of death?

For an AI, you can bypass that in the same way humans don't have our hearts beat because it makes us happy, it's an autonomous function of our existence. Same with sentient AI and providing solutions to problems, it'll apply it's intelligence because that's it's autonomous function, when it is provided a problem, it provides a solution just like people breathe in then out..

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I had this problem too, it looks like they changed the install location for mods in the update. I couldn't figure out a good way to get the legit steam version mods to sync up so I'd just download mods from skymods in the mean time.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

minerals are mined on planets
you then have to refine them; can do this on planets or on orbitals either above the planet, or further away if you can transport it
refined minerals then have to be processed into consumer goods, weapons, building materials, ect everything you need to actually produce physical objects
all this has to be transported as well to its proper destination

The thing that forever pisses me off about Stellaris is how much better it could be with more work. I really wish Paradox had a bigger team and more people working on it and that 4x was more popular so people gave them enough money to fund it.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I have, and in turn tell YOU to go read Robots and Empire.
Asimov's robotic cycle really exemplifies this well, where robots manage to abstract from "DO NOT KILL ANY HUMANS EVER" to "Kill all the humans you want and turn Earth into a ball of radioactive slag as long as you can convince yourself it's "for the greater good of mankind"."
proceeds to puppetmaster the human species like the mechanical Jew for 20,000 years and generate a stagnant galactic bureaucracy

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You need fortress tech, level 6 space stations and zero point power

At that point you have a chance to get it, but its rare, so you need to get one of these going
Heres the tech tree bipedalshark.gitlab.io/stellaris-tech-tree/vanilla/

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

NASA worked out how many people are killed as a result of toxic chemicals for their rockets being released into the atmosphere, down to a tiny percentile.

You'd just need to tell your AI 'your actions cannot directly harm humans and cannot indirectly result in the deaths of more than 0.0034 humans per execution of the task'.

Bob Smith gets chalked up as a statistic, AI provides solution and nobody's species gets wiped out by an autistic (and frankly pedantic) robot.

Firespawn
Firespawn

You'd just need to tell your AI 'your actions cannot directly harm humans and cannot indirectly result in the deaths of more than 0.0034 humans per execution of the task'.

*chemically neuters your species*
No deaths direct or indirect, master :^)

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Huh, so you have a x20 chance to get the tech if a system within your influence has a ringworld. I wonder if that counts the ruined Cybrex ringworld, or if that doesn't count as the "right kind" of ringworld?

Techpill
Techpill

It should count. But year finding and taking control of a mega basically guarantees you'll get the tech to appear the moment you finish fortress.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

purge ayys off newly seized planets so I can terraform for glorious humanity
it still doesn't let me terraform
now everyone hates my ass until the end of time
The unbidden have come, on the other side of the fucking galaxy, and nobody wants to dare let me kill them, despite me having the only fucking fleet capable of doing it
literally about to declare a war with a federation specifically so I can get to the fucking thing before it hits critical mass

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

base your ringworld tech off of a broken and destroyed one
wonder why it never stays afloat

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

That is specifically what is supposed to count yeah.
Also the way tech tiers work you need a certain amount of tier 3 techs first.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

is it really ? it has more CD than the small PD guns and rockets dont really have that much HP to justify the increased damage of flak over tier III Pd

idontknow
idontknow

So is this the Stellaris general now or what

hairygrape
hairygrape

lesswrong.com/lw/xu/failed_utopia_42/
It's a bit circuitous, but it eventually gets across why this won't work.
The essence of the problem is that a machine that is smarter than you will find loopholes in its "What is morally acceptable" programming that you didn't.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Yeah, how do you explain the concept of assisted suicide to a robot? Preferably, in a way so it wouldn't conflate it with normal killing.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

This implies emotion
No this implies basic understanding of computer programming and solving for X. Watch the video before you autism post.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Twice the range so better coverage and more chances to hit incoming missiles, can be put on a combat hull piece instead of a dedicated picket ship piece.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Colonizing tomb worlds
ytho
literally better in every way to terraform that shit

farquit
farquit

Quadruple range if the wiki is to be believed. Can be slapped on any medium slot and can actually poke at ships when there is nothing to PD down.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Holy fuck why are there so many crystalline entities everywhere what the fuck how am I supposed to expand

Illusionz
Illusionz

not using robots or irradiated presentients
lmao @ ur life m8

Snarelure
Snarelure

They usually have meme shit like horrific nuclear attack ground zero, that while being a tile blocker has like a +3 science adjacency bonus.
Early on you would see a ton of screenshots of Synthetics occupying a tomb world and making like more than 100 research from one.

WebTool
WebTool

+20% hab due to cybernetic species, +35 from tech. Couldn't care less about happiness either since I use a billion robots on every planet so hab is irrelevant anyway.

idontknow
idontknow

2 mineral patches should be illegal

RumChicken
RumChicken

listening to Elizier """technorapture""" Yudkowsky
DUDE
BASILISK
LMAO

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Is there a mod that replaces the robot upkeep for materialists with something else?

I want to do a Materialist empire based on genetic engineering, not synthetics.

Methshot
Methshot

Do we have a pedo for the new Stellaris DLC yet?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Decide to try out the tall meme
Take 3 planets. Not even good ones. Just 3 mundane planets
Takes traits for more energy credits and minerals
Start working my way of robo ascension path
Make ally with one single race just to ensure no one declares war on me.
Shit out mountains of science and unity
Bypass everyone by miles
By the time I finish upgrading my buildings, the tech for the next tier is already ready and researched.
Decide to check the strength of other nations
Even the biggest galatic bully is dwarfed by my strength
Take the +200 fleet power and begin building a great and terrible fleet.

As soon as robot ascension finished, I'm going to finish what the Cybrex started 6 million years ago

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

No. Just make it yourself. Takes about 2 minutes to create a mod that does exactly what you want.

Soft_member
Soft_member

that while being a tile blocker has like a +3 science adjacency bonus.
They took out the tomb world blocker adjacency bonuses in Banks. They're literally just normal blockers now.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Will we get a patch that scales robot/droid/synth construction with construction speed bonus research?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

a what ? Pedos cant into space

w8t4u
w8t4u

Traits and civics, user?

tfw can't abandon/evacuate colonies to live purely on ringworlds
tfw can't turn habitable systems into ringworlds

TreeEater
TreeEater

What is magnets?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

pls link dlc

girlDog
girlDog

He's hit-and-miss I accept ("I know what will increase my credibility: Harry Potter fanfiction!"), but the tricky AI thing I agree with.
And also the basilisk actually, FUCK

DeathDog
DeathDog

Are ringworlds worthwhile or should I stick to Habitats?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Telvanni
Mechanist
u wot m8

cum2soon
cum2soon

what tf are you talking about

Bidwell
Bidwell

The Basilisk only works on retarded plebs who don't understand the nature of consciousness anyways.
Assuming it's not created in your lifetime (which is an actual threat), any clones/simulations it produces of you are, in fact, not you.
The threat of torturing a simulation of you would only be a threat if you're so amazingly compassionate that you can't bare the thought of a person being harmed because of your actions; otherwise, you can just say "okay, so?" and be on with it.

Playboyize
Playboyize

was meant for

My first faction is happy all the time because I have a bunch of robots so I also have +4 more influence than I need and I keep curator science buff on always

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

[cs.rin.ru/spoiler]
Stellaris
CreamAPI
Is what you seek lads, Have fun

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Oh okay.

SniperGod
SniperGod

THIS WILL BE THE END OF YOU, SPACE S'WIT!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Very nice; personally, I'd drop the mechanist and go for either functional architecture or for corporate dominion, just to make the most out of your minerals and energy.
Replace weak with non-adaptive (you'll hopefully just be colonizing the best worlds anyways) and add in strong, just for that little extra boost.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Perfect Biological Being
It'll just stop thinking in space.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

magic is essentially technology in fantasy settings, especially in TES with the Dwemer

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Anyone know how to edit saved files in stellaris ? notepad gives me this ,OáF?ÇÁæûúüôömúX‚Q¡éèL(¥§g_3;¯fÌÍÜ+4j¿ãÝ[o½†¯Ägãdp6æâ“yó¼×Ïq.ùãWú1ð½¾9ÜÞ_ù(ý:oBðäý–Ut:ÝïÆó¿•;Ÿ‡Ãχ»»ÃMö|®îß¿ê ñ u{ÿÏ×·ÇÃùŽ<¸ÐÏ‹5<8°ËNÑ‘]…àsšWEÁËô·÷÷ç_RÇuùŽŠRn<Pët[âó'rÙLp/÷>ÃA|õýÁAüxszJ&•‚C

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Its by no means optimal but I seldom min max a race for that

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

They are renamed zip files that need to be extracted first

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Neat.
I should probably start colonizing but there's fuck all for habitable worlds around me at the moment, going to war the fuck to east of me soon since we share planet types.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Do science FE's come after you if you research sentient AI? If so, should I not bother discovering them? I can see a system named Beacon of Perpetuity which I believe is a science FE's system so I'll avoid it if I can

Emberburn
Emberburn

Psionic """bad end""" is an immense boon that ends with an instant harvest of your entire population, followed by a massive psychic rape monster

Synthetic """bad end""" would be adaptive nanomachines with networked intelligence. Due to the connectivity provided, pops become exponentially more efficient the more of them you have on a planet, and to a lesser degree in the system, and to an even lesser degree empire-wide.
At some point, based on population size and local density of pops, a gestalt intelligence is born within the nanomachines and it goes full grey goo.

Armies and pops empire wide have a chance to be turned into nanomachine swarms, defeated armies automatically become swarms, and pops, once purged, become swarms. Based on the size of the planets, after some amount of years, they're completely assimilated into nanomachine swarms and become mobile, powerful warships similar to the infinity sphere. They will attempt to consume celestial bodies to increase their size and power, and will assimilate habitable worlds once they bombard it to 0.

They can also split apart or merge together, based on the decision of the AI and what it deems is necessary.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

1.5.1 Hotfix

THIS WAS A BUG?!

King_Martha
King_Martha

tfw everyone gets pissy when I role egalitarian xenophobes
I just want to be space Greece

TechHater
TechHater

I never bothered with cream API due to the, admittedly very minor, chance of my steam account getting banned.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

But there's literally psionics in the game, why not just call them Dwemer instead of Telvanni?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

How does one find Terraforming candidates?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You were warned many times that egalitarian + xenophobe causes problems.

Methshot
Methshot

Luck. There's an anomaly on the planet and it tells you. Need atmospheric restoration tech to terraform.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Organic """bad end""" would depend on whether or not you're a hivemind or not.

For non-hivemind empires, they accidentally create an extremely mutable retrovirus that randomly mutates pops and is extremely virulent. This can result in worthless or dead pops, or ones that are better and more powerful than what even you could normally engineer. There's also a chance for them to go "feral" and become hostile, spawning armies and so forth, taking over ships, etc etc...
At some critical mass, on a planet, feral pops will go full zerg/tyranid/prethoryn and attempt to consume the entire galaxy, reducing it entirely to barren worlds before departing for another. As time goes on and they acquire more biomass, they will become exponentially more adaptive and powerful, with fleets reforming their organic loadouts real time, in space, to better deal with whatever you bring against them.

For hivemind empires, it ends up being the same thing, but it starts out with the hivemind having become so large that it becomes harder and harder for it maintain control over the rapidly changing and engineered populace its created, resulting in a gradual loss (and eventual negative net) of unity. Once it hits 0 unity, the hivemind goes "insane" and shatters into some number of disparate empires, with you controlling some portion of the original, and the others going to war with each other with their hyper-mutagenic empire (as described above), and you with yours, new technology and everything included to mimic the mechanics described above.

Your goal is to out-compete your "siblings" and reassert control (and consume the galaxy, if you wish), before they can destroy you and each other.

5mileys
5mileys

I remember an event like that. However, there's a special project one needs to complete, and it immediately turned into an Arid world without me having terraforming capabilities yet.

Is this the same event? Or is there an anomaly that specifically adds that modifier?

Inmate
Inmate

I just want to be space Greece
Squander them energy credits until you get negatives.
Then get in denbt with a superpower that you're federations with.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Sounds like you got the Ancient Terraformer event. There's a choice to dismantle or activate it at the end and you get, I believe, a random planet type terraformation if you do activate it. It can be very harmful so I usually dismantle it.

Bidwell
Bidwell

because magic in sci fi is cringy and I dont see Dunmer as space Christians.

WebTool
WebTool

Spiritualist faction
Led by a synth
If I embraced spiritualist values, they would be outlawed
????

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Stellaris a shit, play Distant Worlds and actually have fun

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Is that a mod or does the synth Ascension change the portrait to that wtf

Skullbone
Skullbone

Self-hating synths that believe they're an abomination against what is natural and right, and thus seek to not only destroy themselves, but all of their kin.

Easy enough.

Evilember
Evilember

Looks like the autism req to play that is a little too high for me

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

but it's ugly

Playboyize
Playboyize

Distant Worlds feels more gratifying to me because there's money involved, instead of energy or rubies.

Techpill
Techpill

SP only
Shit by default

Also like most 4x games, although not Stellaris, it has a fucking atrocious UI.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

How fun, autistic, and automated is it?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

tfw wanna play this but can't micro for shit and the AI is dumb as fuck

MPmaster
MPmaster

Luckily for me they generally spawned a good distance away, though they locked off so many hyperlanes so my science ships were locked off. Currently beginning a serious purge now my fleet is big enough.

girlDog
girlDog

are there "pops" or are there actual Victoria 2 populations to manage?

Bidwell
Bidwell

They don't know it's a synth. Controlled opposition motherfucker

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Mod that changes Droids/Synths/AI Rebel portraits.
Kind of annoyed me that they where just recolours of the same base bot.

It would be amazing if they actually made robotic-ish versions of each race for synth models, but it wont happen.

TreeEater
TreeEater

A lot.
Midly.
Depends how you want it. You can automate everything or nothing.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Please ready up the new thread

I was going to ask something but I don't want it to get buried at the tail end of this one, never to be seen again

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

a game where you have to automate by giving control to the AI because its filled with boring shitty systems
Either make a game where automaton is done by the player and is a mechanic, like Factorio, or dont do automation at all.

DW is just one giant fuckfest of boring features, with one or two you might want to actually do and a shitton of crappier ones you dont. Thats why Stellaris works, little to nothing is actually automated nor are you able to just pass it off to the AI which means the devs actually work to make what features are there enjoyable.

Its stuff that is automated like sectors thats absolute rubbish, and its exactly because the player has no control.

King_Martha
King_Martha

that comfy feel when you win a massive war and it's time to kick back and build up your empire and research new shit

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

New thread colonized:

veekyforums.com/thread/173849696/video-games

iluvmen
iluvmen

Somewhere between. Populations exist in units of millions. Planets require resources and have happiness. You can genocide, enslave or resettle different races.

Have you ever played the game? Every feature in Stellaris is unfinished, dull and uninteresting. DW lets you farm out the shit you don't want to do. For instance: micro-ing tax rates in the early game takes little to no effort and is huge in manipulating pop growth, but later in the game, it's not important so you can automate it under certain constraints.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Non-Telvanni Dunmer are crazy religious, just not evangelizing. Telvanni are distrusted by all the other factions because in addition to being ancient insane wizards they also border on atheistic, which is a big No-No in traditional Dunmeri society.

happy_sad
happy_sad

weak
repugnant
slow learners
hivemind
rapid breeders
extremely adaptive
cockroach
Turk/10

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

can't glass worlds
can't abandon colonies for better places
can't purge single pops
no trade routes
can't be a space pirate and raid the fuck out of xenos
can't be a friendly space merchant and gouge credits out of xenos
factions are literally useless
can't covert infiltrate enemy planets and tear shit up from the inside
why bother desu still spent 10 straight hours playing today again

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Let it all burn. It's what they deserve.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is there a mod that allows terraforming of barren worlds with the appropriate atmospheric tech and removes the terraforming_candidate requirement?
I'm gearing up to play a no alien comfy exploration game where I only expand to megastructures, habitats, and gaia worlds.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Literally only played Civ V and Endless Legend
decide to try out Stellaris

How hard should I expect my ass to get beat?

Is there anything I should prepare for being a 4x babby?

idontknow
idontknow

It can look overwhelming at first, but you'll get used to it.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

why can't you make a sexist civilization. like, make it restricted to not egalitarian or something.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Gender is irrelevant when you can switch your genitals for synthetic space tentacles with a quick trip to the doctor.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Unbidden appear just as I finished a war against a Awakened Fallen Empire
Just besides my empire

halp

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

There are no mechanics for it. One of the same reasons why they ditched Collectivist/Individualist.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Now this is what it means to be loyal, too bad they're probably gonna get raped by Unbidden or Awakened Empire

King_Martha
King_Martha

Is Stellaris worth buying?
Be honest

hairygrape
hairygrape

I played it for over 200 hours.
It's shit.

TechHater
TechHater

Why can we only build one megastructure at a time? Surely if you have the resources then you should be able to build more. It takes like 50 years to build one. That's plenty of time for an apocalyptic crisis to occur and fuck everything up before you get a chance to see the final product.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Try conquering 15 new worlds as a Hive/FP in ~2250 when there are no big alliances yet

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