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Is it a defense force if it's objectively true that Classic is better than Modern and Mania is the only Sonic game we need?
Also Mania, while a ROMhack, is still better than anything Sonic Team can put out apparently. Just hand Sonic over to Taxman and be done with it
Blake Lewis
I'm back to being really worried about Forces.
Brayden Gomez
Reposting the webm of Classic Sonic gameplay in Sonic Forces.
Colton Allen
Me
I still think the classic gameplay is from a level creator
Carter Powell
You couldn't make this Sonic forces themed?
Aiden Murphy
Honestly, this is what bothers me the most. It looks so fucking bare and empty.
Luke Watson
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Michael Ross
I'm still hyped. The Boost gameplay looks fun & while Classics gameplay looks mediocre, it's nothing worth shouting doom & gloom over. The game so far has revealed to be everything I expected it to be, which is fine.
Logan White
Right here senpai!
Brandon Nguyen
Except Modern Sonic played better than Classic Sonic in Generations. There's not much competition besides "muh nostalgia" because Classic played like sluggish shit compared to the level design for Modern taking a lot of the good aspects of Unleashed and Colors and doing them well.
Besides Planet Wisp. Fuck Planet Wisp.
Chase Reed
Shut the fuck up how about you make the thread next time?
Christian Rogers
pyramid in the bakground
Xavier Phillips
>Classic Sonic is back for god knows what reason so he can eat off of more nostalgia. >The Wisps are still around. >Boost gameplay has returned. >All the old character are just NPC cheerleaders again. >ANOTHER new character is being introduced. Looks like Bubsy to boot. >It's a "Eggman obtains/unlocks/unleashes another mystic power to beat Sonic/rule the world" plot again. >Classic Sonic's Green Hill stage looks like complete ass, and his gameplay looks like it's suffering too. >The guy who designed Sonic & The Secret Rings, Sonic & The Black Knight, Sonic Colors, and directed Sonic Colors is directing the game.
Dead. On. Fucking. Arrival.
Aaron Carter
Shills pls
Zachary Young
I don't understand why people complain about Boost. I mean there is also the fucking Wisps.
But who cares guys, we'll have Mania & Forces, both for free along with the One Piece
Also remember, to kill Solaris, we need to kill him in the pasr (Generations, Time Eater), the present (2006 with Super Sonic, Super Shadow & Super Silver) and the future (Sonic Forces)
Brayden Ross
Hyped for Boost gameplay Disappointed in Classic gameplay Worried about new gameplay and character
Julian Walker
Gee, I wonder why that could be...
Cameron Bell
DON'T WORRY! BE HAPPY! BE HAPPY THAT YOU CAN PLAY MANIA ON THE SWITCH AND THUS ON THE GO! youtube.com/watch?v=paGi5D2-QMc BE HAPPY GOD DAMNIT! DON'T SHIT YOUR PANTS OVER A 10 SECOND VIDEO!
Aiden Jones
I was literally about to post a thread with the new character as the op. I made the last one.
Aaron Lee
@173827876 Seen better ironic shitposting from /nepgen/. No (You) for you.
Juan Bailey
>Not Forces Themed >After getting new Forces stuff.
OP I am disappointed.
Anthony Gomez
I wish I could roll back to yesterday...
Daniel Scott
I'm less disappointing, more confused as to how they could mess up something like the classic gameplay. When they've shown themselves capable of doing better than this. It's not Sonic cycle, but it's not exactly covering themselves in glory.
Also the fact that people are defending this, I can accept that we need to see more before passing judgement. I can accept that it's not 06 levels of bad, but you can't look at this footage and say 'yep, this is what we waited for over 2 years for.
Aiden Cruz
The only people that are just now upset about Boost being back are people that didn't see the fucking reveal trailer, which has shown that Boost was gonna be back.
Brody Foster
>>All the old character are just NPC cheerleaders again. Literally nothing wrong with this. They're called supporting characters for a reason
Andrew Thompson
I'm less defending Forces personally and more getting tired of the people that show exactly why people can believe IGN when they say everything Sonic is and has always been awful.
Jaxon Garcia
>People will look at this and say "yes, this is fine"
Okay, so it's not a full gameplay video or anything like that, but EVERYTHING in this clip is garbage. It's like they found the absolute worst gameplay clip they could find to show on the Direct.
Jaxson Clark
Wait who the fuck said the old characters are going to be sidelined again? Just because they aren't playable doesn't mean that they aren't going to be relevant to the story.
Eli Williams
Because it is fine. Stop crying so hard.
Lucas Green
It's really time for Sonic Team to give up on 2D gameplay entirely. Leave it to the Mania guys.
I think it looks fine. It's only 10 seconds, anyway.
Tyler Davis
>not even on-model
Sickening
It's called people overreacting. The game has already said they're gonna help the Sonics beat Eggman. They're most likely gonna do something, even if they're just NPCs.
Ryan Torres
>It's really time for Sonic Team to give up on Sonic entirely. Leave it to the Mania guys. FTFY T. Shill
Jason Wilson
>Tails,Knuckles,Shadow and Amy >Supporting Characters
Nathan Harris
I doubt you wrote this down with a straight face.
Thomas Wood
So what's with the bitching about Aerial Momentum again? The fact that the spring cancelled out all of Sonic's forward momentum, or the fact that Sonic is able to move like that in the air to the side?
Andrew Hughes
Hey you sound better than the current Shadow VA
Also I wouldn't hate a ShtH2
Juan Price
RE:173827880 (You) sure told me
Jackson Collins
They've been reduced to radio chatter last I read.
>that laugh >I'm the coolest
Elijah Gonzalez
>They're most likely gonna do something, even if they're just NPCs. Probably via moral support or warning about incoming attacks. Well they are. Sonic is the main character, they're his supporting characters
Landon White
>Responding to an old shitpost
Stop.
Anyways, while Classic Sonic's gameplay looks alright, I'm more interested in the new character.
Jaxson Russell
>BLUHBLUHBLUH SHILL REEEEEEE Fucking kek. I certainly didn't type it out with an curved face.
Carter Murphy
Kek. Nice.
Brayden Nguyen
Well with trailers like this, can you blame them?
It is somewhat hard to believe that the same people, who made beloved classic games could trot out something that looks like like Sonic 4 episode 1 with a fresh coat of paint.
I think this surmises the frustration; Mania is over there making something that looks fantastic, utterly fantastic. While Sonic Team cannot even manage to make a level or at least show part of a level that isn't 'run right and jump'.
Caleb Lopez
>b-but it's still in development it's just an alpha/beta!
Why would you even show it then? They've been so secretive and selective about Forces and what they show of it until now, it's just baffling that they decided THIS was how they wanted to show the game off.
Gavin Cooper
The former.
Isaiah Peterson
>that laugh Thank you based Shadow user
Jaxson Wood
>OC Generator in Forces >No Multiplayer >No Online
One step forward and two steps back as always I see.
Hunter Price
Why are people going out of their way to defend what we just saw? Generations and Lost World didn't show us shitty footage like this.
Jonathan Kelly
Because they either show something or have the hype they built up drop off like a rock. Did you expect them to have the game fully finished to show? Retard. Even Crashfags can understand this.
Justin Torres
Glorious.
Jace Wright
>Because they either show something or have the hype they built up drop off like a rock. Oh the irony.
Evan Hill
But that's wrong. Sonic 4 was made by Dimps.
Christopher Ward
Tried to get a 1080p screenshot of the new character from non-stream footage since Nintendo's uploaded it all onto their channel more directly. Still obnoxiously blurred and underdetailed though.
To be honest, most of the people actually responsible for the classic games probably aren't even party of the company anymore, are they?
Owen Diaz
Because not everybody is upset with what they saw. Fuck sakes, calm down.
Hudson Perez
They're just paid shills and shitposters. Ignore them
Jordan Ramirez
>One step forward and two steps back as always I see That one step is pretty pitiful when you look at the giant leaps backward we got from Lost World and Boom.
Adrian Gonzalez
I guess we know why they were so secretive. It looks like ass.
Jaxon Gomez
There is no irony. Most people, at least here, are still hyped because they're not retarded.
Jason Stewart
>Multiplayer & Online in Sonic Forces >It's Time Attack against Ghost recorded user I don't know man
Asher Robinson
Because what they showed for Modern was hype.
What they showed for Classic kills the hype compared to Mania's reveal.
Carson Smith
If you're ever in a bad mood and get tired of all the shitposting, just remember:
"Nobody cares but /sthg/"
Henry Morales
I'm not sure you understood my post.
Forces information wasn't even announced for this direct. They didn't need to show anything, as they normally don't. Like I said, they're very selective and secretive about what information they present about Forces.
They didn't need to show anything at all, but instead they showed exactly what people didn't want to see.
Evan Gutierrez
Don't worry guys, we've survived shitty Sonic games before. We'll do it again. We always have.
We just gotta stick together...right?
Benjamin James
>like something >SHILLS SHILLS SHILLS SHILLS SHILLS Quiet with the autistic screeching, lad. You're gonna wake up your mum.
Caleb Baker
nintendonewsblogger.tumblr.com/post/159498588913/famitsu-interview-shares-new-details-on-sonic >- the third character in Forces will be an “unexpected character” >- Sonic Boom Sonic is NOT in the game >- the third character “plays an important role in the story, and embodies the overall features of the game” >- Sonic 3’s bonus stages seem likely to return in Sonic Mania >- “The boost system from Sonic Unleashed is present, as well as stages based on reaching the goal and clearing them a certain time limit also seem to be present.” >- “Classic Sonic stages are based on side scrolling 2D action" and will also have a twist >- Sonic Forces will be at E3 this year >- E3 will be where the third character will be revealed >- Sonic Forces story: “Dr. Eggman took over 99% of the world. Sonic and the “Resistance” members are fighting. Then another Sonic appears…” >- the reason why Eggman takes over so much of the world is because of “a new power” that his obtains >- this is the same power that makes classic Sonic appear >- Morio Kishimoto is the director of Sonic Forces >- Sonic Forces has been in development since 2013, and started around Sonic Lost World’s release >- “Forces was chosen as a subtitle from it meaning “power” and “army”. Two strong forces (Sonic and co vs. Eggman) are facing off in the game.” >- “This time, Sonic is fighting an Eggman who has nearly taken over the world.” >- the game won’t be all dark and gloomy, but there are some lighter stages in Forces >- Sonic Mania’s development began in 2015, as Sonic Team wanted to do a new 2D Sonic game and “not a remake” >- the general rule for the art of Sonic Mania was to be above the level of Genesis, but under the level of Saturn >- gameplay for Mania is similar to Sonic 3 >- elemental shields were mentioned as returning
Chase Evans
Classic Sonic was a mistake.
Luis Harris
I wasn't saying that it was, I was just saying that is what the footage reminded me of.
Well, they work there, people have played the old games. They must know, why can't they LEARN?
Okay, the boost may be good, I'm sure that will be fine, I just feel that it will be weighed down by a completely lackluster Sonic 4/Lost World 2D style 'classic' Sonic and the wild card that is Hugh DePlayr's gameplay.
Evan Brown
But it honestly doesn't look that bad.
Julian Sanders
I used to think VAs made everything better... but not this time.
Landon Rodriguez
What they showed for Modern was just as barebones as what they showed for Classic. Thank god you kneejerk dipshits are the minority in this. >but instead they showed exactly what people didn't want to see >implying everyone is as upset about these non-issues as the 7 or so people in this general having a fit, one of which being you
Carson Ramirez
Incorrect, looking around other communities, everyone is pissed by this.
Unless you're referring to something else.
Mason Hernandez
This. There was some complaints, but no one was flying off the handle this hard with Boost.
Forces doesn't look that shitty. Classic Sonic's gameplay looks unimpressive especially compared to Mania, but that was an inevitability the moment it was shown that he was gonna be in the game. The Boost gameplay looks super fun & the third gameplay & new character is something I'm curious about. People everywhere needs to chill.
Evan Hill
>Modern Sonic brings the hype. >Classic Sonic kills it not even a month after. 3 weeks to be exact.
Nicholas Barnes
Okay
What's *good* about that gameplay, and don't say 'well I don't care about classic Sonic' because that's not the point. You'll still play those stages same as you'll play the werehog or Big's fishing stages.
Cameron Howard
>implying everyone is as upset about these non-issues as the 7 or so people in this general Maybe if you got out of your bubble here and dropped the delusion, you'd see people ARE angry about this.
Bentley Butler
>It's been in development in 5 years.
>Still can't fix Classic's Gameplay
Bentley Roberts
Classicfags right now
Camden Peterson
>Well, they work there, people have played the old games. They must know, why can't they LEARN? Most Japanese companies don't learn from the past. Just look at Konami and Capcom, who only use the past as a means of reselling the same shit over and over and over with the same stuff on top. Sega takes one step forward and two steps back all the time in learning lessons.
Classic Sonic in terms of games is probably something Sonic Team wants to overcome and rise out of the shadow of, rather than be forever held to. Which is why Classic Sonic in Generations was unrefined and kinda felt slapped in since it was only added in on fan demand. The character himself in the 3D games is pretty much just to appeal to older audiences that bitch about everything Modern.
Henry Price
You should take your own advice and see that pretty much not even 10% of people are upset.
Hunter Ross
3-4 years. It's been worked on since Lost World.
Michael Jackson
Because it's not a 1 to 1 comparison. What they showed for Modern looked like a return to Unleashed/Generations after Lost World. That's hype.
Classic is already redundant with Mania, but the fact that it looks visually unappealing compared to Generations, and looks to be more of the same with no improvement? That's concerning.
But your right, it's only been 10 seconds, so we should wait.
I just wish it were a better 10 seconds is all.
Leo Peterson
Looks like the shitpostees are now the shitposters!
Angel Wright
>hyped for boostan >meh towards classic What a weird timeline to be living in.
Easton Gonzalez
Would people be as mad about this if Mania wasn't a thing?
With Mania around, it just makes Forces' Classic look tragically incompetent.
Andrew Diaz
>6 years have passed >But...I do not improve. Time has lost its effect on me. >Yet, the dark ages continue. >Iizuka's idiocy chokes the past, present, and future. Hope is lost. >Gotta get back >Back to the past >Sonic Mania
Hunter Ortiz
I've noticed this had been happening with Forces and Mania as well before. Whoever is handling these things needs a good shakeup.
Xavier Bell
>I just wish it were a better 10 seconds is all. That probably WAS the best 10 seconds Sega had to offer.
Oliver Williams
>but the fact that it looks visually unappealing compared to Generations, and looks to be more of the same with no improvement? That's concerning. Maybe if you have no clue how game development works. I'm not worried at all because this is simply how it happens. Ignorants like you will always flip out about how bad a game looks when early footage is shown and it almost always ends up being fine, granted nothing major happens like with RoL.
Samuel Thompson
This. My first reaction was 'at least we have Mania'.
After being hype for Modern's section at the panel a few weeks ago, this is not good.
Oliver Anderson
I can get that, they want to move forward, then why can't they let go? They have Mania? I like classic Sonic and I have that, I'm excited for Boosting Sonic, however to know that they wasted their damn time on making a Sonic 4 esque slapped-on Classic (judging from this footage, they may of course surprise us) when they could have been adding and refining to Boost. It's just ridiculous.
Robert Sanders
I dunno, but it really does look bad in comparison. It doesn't look much better, if at all, than Generations version either.
Austin Miller
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT
Carson Powell
>sega doesnt want to spoil the game >"lets show them green hill"
Tyler Richardson
Just reuse some of the assets. Is that so hard?
Gavin Thomas
Probably.
This. Almost everyone here seems to not mind Boost coming back & being used, but almost everyone is either unimpressed or downright pissed with Classic Sonic's gameplay.
Definitely a valid criticism. You know what? I'm glad this is happening. When Forces comes out & people praise the Boost gameplay & (depending on what it is) the third gameplay style, while shitting over how unimpressive Classic Sonic's is, this may convince SEGA to stop using him in the 3D games.