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Sharpcharm
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Gawain will save Otomeme edition

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Memes! Hooray!

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Get fucked frogposter

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

ywn calamitous curse a board of 3 mordecais and an urd again

why live

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

you can not banish amulets with calamitous

hairygrape
hairygrape

double may snipe frog
wotf frog
Feels good man

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So it's a safe bet that Ursias has fucked every single female Bloodcraft card in the game, including spells, already and possibly some males, right?

I mean, not like there's a reason not to.

eGremlin
eGremlin

How do we make Otohime great again

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

hagfag getting banished

Pottery.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

hating on birds
reddit spacing
when are you going to kys yourself?

Deadlyinx
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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Hagcraft has never been cancer since DE, I swear!

You're mum has spacing too

Methshot
Methshot

Evo points should recover one point at 8, 9, and 10 mana to make the game more interesting in the late game

TreeEater
TreeEater

proving you newfaggotries are coming from Facebook

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

no

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

End of DE, it was on its way to tier 2 status. Real top tier deck of that time were, surprise surprise, Forest and Sword.

WebTool
WebTool

Is Zoos worth running in a non-saha Storm Ramp?
I'm too lazy and poor for vials and I got one of him in a pack.

DeathDog
DeathDog

mfw Forest and Sword are dumpster tier this expac
Dragon and Shadow are stronk again

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

But Olivia?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

you could run one zues and two genesis or something

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'm sick of Sword and it's perfect curve bullshit when they go first.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

So you want more SABER STRIKE to the face?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

every T9 Albert is evolved
sure thing bud

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Can anyone concede to me for private match quest?
84217

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

le turn 4 sibyl faec

whereismyname
whereismyname

I'm about to craft 3 Sun Pascales

Talk me out it

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I'm not gonna say no to free score

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

you've got some balls dont think you could get talked out

Snarelure
Snarelure

Gaywine can't save shit, he couldn't even save his own master.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Lyrial

Did you replace sarge for her? I was pretty sure Shadow has enough good class followers to go neutral.

WebTool
WebTool

t1 quickblader
t2 veteran lancer or whole souled swing
t3 noive trooper
t4 jeno
t5 Aurelia Regal Saber

Just end me

DeathDog
DeathDog

Yeah I use her because 3 DAMAGE EVOLVES

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Jeno
Why was this card even printed, it's braindead shit that perfectly kills evolves, AND THEN they release the mage of free evolves because fuck you Sword gets to keep evolve points for turn 9 Albert. FUCK YOU

Illusionz
Illusionz

not him but the extra shadow is minimal especially once they start rolling with all the skeletons, the ping is usually more useful

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

roachbolt
alberto barbossa
dumpster

The real dumpster crafts of this expansion are Rune, followed by Haven.

b-but Aegis

Disadvantaged against all other crafts with only a barely even match up against Shadow. I predict that at the end of this expansion, it'll be a tier 3 deck. Best scenario is bottom of the tier 2 rankings.

Methshot
Methshot

12 face point
The hell are you complaining? Exploit broken deck and still stand up to bitch about the only answer the poor guy has.

StonedTime
StonedTime

dorkte is so dumb lol

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

why would you ever play spartoi sergeant in a aggro when lyrial evolves for 1 more damage and the 1 shadow is almost unimportant?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

why would you ever play aggro when midrange is superior?

DeathDog
DeathDog

1 shadow is almost unimportant
Your D (rank) is showing.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

esl nigger please go

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Some lists run Squasher now to deal with wards and that one extra shadow could be important.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Sarge sometimes gave me just enough shadow to squash something up on turn 5 when I didn't draw any catacomb.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Who cares? Are you gonna kill it? No, you're aggro.

5mileys
5mileys

Why don't you use the pack opening technique, /svg/?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Running that blood vengeance deck with laura, soul dealer and belph
Damn this is intense as fuck

Methshot
Methshot

kill yourself

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

not taking the chance to throw a tantrum on shadowbbs

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Aggro cucks Dragon harder.

takes2long
takes2long

because its nothing but a shitty placebo

TechHater
TechHater

4 useless golds
nice method!

Evilember
Evilember

All Haven player should neck themselves t bh fucking waste of air piece of trash

askme
askme

aegis is a fair deck with a 50% win rate, don't bully.

Methshot
Methshot

got one from daily pack yesterday
bitched about it becausd i don't want her
immediately got another one today
So this is how this bitch annoy people.

farquit
farquit

She's hot.

Methshot
Methshot

That one fucking time I wanted to burn some ungacraft, I brick to kingdom come.

Evilember
Evilember

It's as fair and fun to play against as DShift you fucking mongoloid.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I can't fight it anymore. Please don't hate me.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Olivia
I hope you dies and take along Zell with you.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Lyrial or Conjurer if I don't have room for both?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

k vials in action

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

But Wight King is better

farquit
farquit

Drew 2 echtars already
feels good

iluvmen
iluvmen

Not having room for both

Their your priotity 2-drops because they are also in your 4-5 curve.

Techpill
Techpill

You wait and hope she becomes top tier meta in the next expansion. She obviously has a use, just she doesn't seem to currently have the support to be useful.

Methshot
Methshot

Lyrial is usually more reliable and doesn't take up board space.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

lyrial

JunkTop
JunkTop

Exactly

Their deck is trash but its fucking annoying to play against and one time they won with their shit deck they bm like crazy, fucking annoying

farquit
farquit

I'm trying out Soulsquasher in place of one.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Why not both?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

shadow reaper is priority number one, after that it really doesn't matter as much, i'd personally take mummy and squasher over either of those two

Methshot
Methshot

Forest and Sword are a solid tier 2 and seeing tournament play. I won't be surprised if Forest can creep up to tier 1 again.

Rune is the absolute shit class so far, and Haven is doing no better than RoB meta.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Actually I would have killed it if he didn't concede immediately.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Fanart of Gawain actually rescuing Otomeme and carrying her bridal style would be cute as fuck.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

tfw you go through 2 test of strengthed aegises and win
he spamed sorry every single turn
Only won because of a 2hp heal done by unica. Best follower in the game and my wife

TreeEater
TreeEater

Because I'd rather the disappointment hit me all at once so I press skip.

Firespawn
Firespawn

win 4 matches as swordcaft or runecraft

King_Martha
King_Martha

Need concede senpai!

46625

Inmate
Inmate

forest is slowly gaining more usage on masters
Why won't you just fucking die, you piece of shit roach?

DeathDog
DeathDog

He can't save anyone. Absolute dream set up is turn 4 Gawain with Otomeme in your hand while going 2nd. Then Dragon plays Salamander on your turn 5 otomeme anyway and you remember why everyone stopped running her.

But seriously he seems like he was meant for a csword or support cannon build, which won't be playable for 3 months just like every other control deck.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Do you not want Roland to get some use?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Thank Forte

Emberburn
Emberburn

People are starting to play Jungle Forest. Goes even with Shadow and completely destroys Dragon.
twitter.com/otaku_sv/status/852132593420034049

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Like RoB, people are slowly realizing they can just add a couple new cards to old builds and, surprise, Roach is still bullshit.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I just realized it isn't obvious because normal shadow can run carrot but he was also neutralcraft.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

It's funny when many laughed at warden, saying he doesn't have a slot in their deck. And lo, it takes a netdeck to change their mind.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Nobody is gonna make 2-3 copies of Gawain, and this guy isn't a easy one to get out off the pack. Until someone can afford risking, we won't be seeing many viable Gawain decks.

5mileys
5mileys

He seemed to have so much potential with the commander Banner and/or Cannon, and everyone was jerking off over him before release, too.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Many people did see him as mini-albert prerelease.

FastChef
FastChef

Is this a real forest deck worth playing this expansion?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It had an 80% win rate over 50 games.
17 of those games were vs Dragon - all wins, zero losses.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I wish cannon had commander trait. Gawain making making it cheap makes it more playable than lel turn 5 do nothing.

SniperGod
SniperGod

And many scoffed at the idea of a 10pp play because lolroach and lolbolt.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

There's another version that swap out grimnir/lily for dod/wotf/glimmering/elfqueen.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

requires 3 ancient elf
GOD fuck
I want to try out forest but I don't want to tank 10500 vials in a deck I might not like.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Not him dunno but jungle is insane.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Make it 12900, no forest deck work without ae/roach. Maybe another 4-5k for tarzan and aerin.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

The madman just went face even though it was a certain win if he killed a zombie instead.

Spamalot
Spamalot

forest deck
Not having the obligatory playset if soccermom

Please be joking.

farquit
farquit

Worst comes to worst, you have a good elf deck for dailies

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Even if you had 3 gawains it would never be any good. Gawain is only useful when he attacks so to make full use of him he has to survive a turn and good luck with that in removalverse. Its like a bloody marry that doesnt do anything

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Tossing a couple in Wolf still feels better than having him as the only wincon.

TechHater
TechHater

Lots of people were calling bullshit on Warden. It was Aerin people dismissed as 'worse than lion'.

I think he IS good in commander heavy csword build, just that csword isn't viable thanks to Dragon's playrate. Dropping Luminous Mage and White Pally on turn 6, and evoing pally for free is pretty disgusting vs aggro. Or you drop a Frontguard turn 6.

Cannon suffers like every other amulet; you usually can't survive dropping a do-nothing amulet in aggroverse.

He's not your main wincon, he's a backup wincon in a normal OTK Roach build.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

3 Ancient Elves are mandatory since Standard.
Under a rock for too long?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I want to try out forest but I don't want to tank 10500 vials in a deck I might not like.
Soccermom is the safest investment of vials in this game, there will never be a forest deck without 3x of it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

tfw I netdecked this 3 days ago, except with -1 warden +1 elf queen
my only complaint is how inconsistent gobu is since you have 3 distinct targets, aggro blood ran it when it could hit 3+ targets but aggro blood followers are interchangeable, in this deck roach/may/lily all do wildly different things, it's even worse when you have to take a line that involves saving 0 cost gobus for your roach turn and the calculations start to actually get complicated

Lunatick
Lunatick

1 Tia
I'm gonna cut Tia, put in Elf Queen and then call it my own deck
Also because I have an animated Elf Queen that I don't want to vial because she looks pretty good

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

This is your final exam, user. Spot the lethal.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

It was Aerin people dismissed as 'worse than lion'
You sure that wasnt elf queen?

Nojokur
Nojokur

trade Prince, tempest and howl

That was hard.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

But there are two lethals

SniperGod
SniperGod

foul tempest, orthus, swing

was this supposed to be hard.

eGremlin
eGremlin

can I run blood moon

Nojokur
Nojokur

that I don't want to vial
she's a card in the main version of forest. why would you vial her?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Tempest -> Orthus
It's not even a puzzle

girlDog
girlDog

BM and then wait for him to concede.

5mileys
5mileys

Unless shit drags too much, Tarzan is good as a backup for OTK and Wolfbolt.

If Forest gets popular, would it turn into somekind of midrange seeing Tarzan and Aerin can easily fit into OTK and Wolfbolt?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I think a rush centralized curve can work but it's hard to determine wincon.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

More than one easy solution
Shadow players think their deck requires thinking

DeathDog
DeathDog

pick the worst way to get lethal
nice

Emberburn
Emberburn

wolfbolt with tarzan and aerin is already the standard jap forest deck
when they say jungle forest is new, they mean "pure" jungle forest in comparison to hybrid wolf

Evilember
Evilember

A win is a win.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

not able to keep track of shadow consumption and empty it for lethal

What? Can't into math?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

They already max out Aerin and are starting to incorporate Jungle Bunga.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Holy shit, I finally broke free the 900 mark.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

picks the option that gives him 4 damage instead of 5

Snarelure
Snarelure

Good luck, little orc slut.

farquit
farquit

the option that's the closest to exact lethal is the most BM

massdebater
massdebater

not going for exact lethal

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

That is almost exactly what i got in the end. Lily is 2/2 drop for shadow and removal for dragon, every ward possible for shadow and grimnir/junglebunga also can provide additional face damage. Rest is basic roach package.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I prefer showing how much I shit on my opponent by seeing exactly how much I could get their health into the negatives.

takes2long
takes2long

I have yet to see a SV boardstate that requires more than a couple seconds of thinking to determine if lethal is possible or not.

It's a combination of the limited number of cards in SV, the small board size, and the fact that most cards in SV are enemy/friendly only (i.e. you can't use removal on your own guys).

TechHater
TechHater

4pp 7/7
HOLY SHIT NEUTRALCRAFT

MPmaster
MPmaster

I can finally play forest again. I played PtP and tempo in DE, roaches in RoB. I was beginning to think I won't be able to play forest again. SEE YOU ALL GETTING ROACHED DOWN IN LADDER.

takes2long
takes2long

Shit, I completely discounted the idea of using Orthrus because I was occupied with using Howl

Here's how I actually won, and it was evidently the most drawn out retarded way possible.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Exact lethal "shits" on them even harder because not only does the hand randomization from the most recent patch mean they can't know that you didn't topdeck lethal but it also makes them agonize over little misplays where they might have taken an extra point of damage.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Balance!

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Roach only takes you a couple seconds?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

ungapedo in a nutshell

Emberburn
Emberburn

After you memorize the pp cost and damage count.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Too many different possibilities.

Spamalot
Spamalot

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!
THAT'S SO MEAN!

Methnerd
Methnerd

Once you're used to doing the math yeah, it's pretty fast.

I still play roach because you still have to update your damage total with every draw and always be cognizant of your hand size and the number of slots on your board. Most other combos in the game always deal the a set amount of damage or are even easier to calculate (e.g. phantom howl).

FastChef
FastChef

I want to make a midget sandwich out of Otohime and Forte and impregnate them both

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

9pp 9/10
NEUTRALCRAFT

Soft_member
Soft_member

What's the hardest combo to pilot in your opinion?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Stupid question.

If I WotF for 8 damage and my opponent has a board of 4 1/1s that all have the skelly prince LW do I clear his board or not?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

play aggro, 90% of the times I go second
play control, 90% of the times I go first

what the fuck is wrong with this fucking game?

eGremlin
eGremlin

No. 4 Skellies 1/1 without last word will be in the field.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Play this deck 3 times
Get matched and lose against shadow players 3 times who shit out khawys and deaths breaths
the game knows

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

why were you ever down on forest, roach is always as broken as its ever been, forest decks just take a bit more fine tuning but theyre always there
wotf will completely resolve before any skeletons come down, so no

Illusionz
Illusionz

No. Same for Grimnir etc. it's dumb.

Supergrass
Supergrass

twitter.com/otaku_sv/status/852132593420034049

For the new roach deck. Is it better with x1 tia or x1 elf queen. I can finally play forest again. Was stuck playing fucking pepe for what felt like years holy shit.

Skullbone
Skullbone

No, Last Words do not resolve in the middle of turn. I once played Grimmir on a board with enhanced Jeno, it doesn't clear the 1/1.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I think Tia is better, she can be a very proactive play.
But Elf Queen is fine too.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

*roach noises intensify*

Snarelure
Snarelure

this ugly son of a bitch bones forestcraft qt's daily and impregnates him into more gobus

SniperGod
SniperGod

Probably post-gobbu nerf roach because in addition to standard roach math there is the added depth of the decision as to when to play the 0 cost gobbu mage from Feena.

Prior to the nerf you could always just count it as a roach and +1 to your storm count and board slots but the chance of pulling May after the nerf means you have to not only calculate the probability of pulling a roach by keeping track of how many roaches/mays you've drawn but also the decision to play it for tempo becomes much more reasonable.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Tia seems more versatile.

askme
askme

it's a one of it'll only matter like once in every fifty games

likme
likme

dumb damegami

WebTool
WebTool

want my free pack but also don't want to lose 3k score again

Illusionz
Illusionz

i tried dshift and ran into six shadow and one sword, 700 was enough for me to stop

w8t4u
w8t4u

Play x deck
3 games in a row are your hard counters
Swap to another deck
The next 3 games in a row are the hard counters to the new deck
I just want my dailies reeeeeeeeeeeee

Playboyize
Playboyize

play aggro
go second
play control
go first and Dshifted
play broken deck
gets nerfed

Techpill
Techpill

Good. Play a real deck.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Cygames is holding some kind of Shadowverse event next month.
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Includes a business trip themed episode of SV channel, and some goodies to buy.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

the key to dshift in this meta is having a keen sense of your burn potential and finding opportunities to either tempo them out without dshift or make the exact last few turns rush to a dshift lethal
this mentality is why people focused on enchanted sword brews, but honestly I think good old dariashift is fine
if you manage a 30% winrate you only lose an average of 40 points per game which means 4 rune wins should only cost 500-600 points, and no matter how aggro your matchmaking is you should be able to manage 30% overall once you learn the math on outracing suboptimal hands from aggro/midrange

Booteefool
Booteefool

play ramp/control
go first
bricks
enemy is aggro
gets right curve
die at turn 5/6 without doing jackshit

EVERY FUCKING TIME

happy_sad
happy_sad

ding dong clock
perfect

Snarelure
Snarelure

I hope there's also online event with free shit

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

it just feels bad having these collect dust

Emberburn
Emberburn

Anyone else uses custom icons? This is what I've been using for some time now, but I'm thinking of finding something new to replace it

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

ding dong clock actually has her voice

Illusionz
Illusionz

How does this do better against Dragon then Wolf? With that you're at lest able to burst Dragon down on turn 9 ideally. With all of their healing it doesn't feel like 10 damage on turn 10 is going to close out many games.

w8t4u
w8t4u

ding dong clock
It's perfect.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I've been using this for a while. I might switch it to something else if I get bored, but I don't use SV that much on my phone anyways.

Methnerd
Methnerd

lily is very good against their big stuff, and roaches can still otk them

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

It's still a 80% winrate over only 50 matches. That a good sample size.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Are these iPhones? Aren't you ashamed?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Imagine if the shadowverse channel emblems and sleeves are only for those who attend this event.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Better not be meme...

I TOLD YOU NOT TO BE MEME TO US!

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Android m8, it's just that the phone OS mimics iOS a little.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

b-but muh brand name

Spamalot
Spamalot

default icon has been an elfgirl for months now

How insecure are you to be afraid of what others think about your hobbies?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Quick give me the secret pack opening technique!

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

So. How hard is to make an actual homebrew deck?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

kiss dumb cuck

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

83617452 works every time

Supergrass
Supergrass

I've had rowen since forever

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

use revelation
opponent concedes
nigger you should be expecting it

whereismyname
whereismyname

oh shit you're right, when did it change from Rowen?

Playboyize
Playboyize

I got two legendaries in two packs by doing 81726345

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

When they decided and Rowen was gonna be a wallet class.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

yes, aggro decks expect to lose to cucktrol blood, that's why they conede

Evilember
Evilember

after they asked people to fill out surveys in exchange for packs and noticed all the paying customers are weeaboos who'd respond better to a cute girl icon than literal who rowen
like, early feb/late jan

happy_sad
happy_sad

new deck
auto
went 3-3 in unranked with shadow, granted it had an eachtar, also saha israfil combo but not too sure about that

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Apparently generic face dude as your icon doesn't help when the market is flooded with them. Pandering to weebs work better.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Ramp so hard you're at 10 mana while the opponent is at 5
and lose anyway

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I think Immortal Thane is my new favorite card. When your opponent is low on health it puts them in such an awkward situation unless they have a board clear.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I guess they weren't kidding when they said Daria was popular. What are these mats for though?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Looks like those mats people use for physical card games.

takes2long
takes2long

70K VIALS TO HAVE FUN WITH BRICKS.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

they look like playmats for card games, since buying plastic to put your cards in isn't enough to protect them from you need something to put on the table to put your cards on

Emberburn
Emberburn

Those generally use a different material so that the cards won't slide off easily.

Wrapping your cards in 3 difference sized card sleeves. Each slightly bigger than the previous sleeve.

What a waste of money that was.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Just play using those hard plastic sleeves.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

i'd have more fun recreating isabelles tits out of leggos

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

play Thane against Elf
May always snipes both Wights

At least they did one damage.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Neutralcraft sucks. I've never seen a neutral decklist that wasn't complete trash.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Too complicated for me. I wish it didn't exist, just give us online events.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Gawain is good. even Roland is good. The problem is that they can't do anything against Dragon. That's the reason why the tier 1 deck of Sword is still Mid Sword with the addition of Luminous Mage.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

prntscr.com/evu4tl/direct
prntscr.com/evu4yi/direct

This is what I got from this reroll, Is it another reroll or a keeper??

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Anyone seen that new seraph list the nips made on stream? 22 winstreaks so far

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

why is ragnaros so garbage
why is he a leader

Lunatick
Lunatick

As it should be. Classes exist for a reason.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Having to decide when you push into your opponent's face and when to hold back for spellboosts is probably the most difficult thing about DS this meta, at least with the Enchanted Blade decks. It was always a thing against aggrobats, but now you have to do it against almost every deck. With people putting in 3 blades along with 3 DShift's there isn't a lot of removal to go around. If anyone wanted to do Rune dailies I'd recommend regular Daria decks, since at least you can hope to get some good draws against Dragon and control skeletons.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

looks ok

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Six legendaries is kind of on the low side, are you scripting your rerolls or doing them manually?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Those who still played Forest after ToG knew that Forest still was good. It was just a lot of people here eclisped all of that with their taunting and stuff.

idontknow
idontknow

Should check your browser tabs before shitposting.

Flameblow
Flameblow

the 6 gorllion vial deck is as popular as the cheaper deck with a better winrate
explain this shadowbabs

RavySnake
RavySnake

it can't be that much different than old seraph lists, judge, sonia, and iron maiden are the only new cards i imagine they might play, unless it also has candalabra which is pretty spicy

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

could be better but it's good enough if you want to stop

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

no core legendary

Unless you want to play rune for this meta, re-roll into something good like cerberus or eachtar.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Im Deleting the app then redownloading it and Im On the IOS

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I feel like Elf Queen would be better against popular decks. Soulsquasher and Eachtar will get rid of Tia easily and she's not that useful against Dragon either. You're usually hoarding fairies for roach combos too. I guess another option is Will of the Forest.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

sunk cost, if you wasted all those vials you might as well play those cards you made with them.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I'm at the right place. I was talking about ragnaros. Nobody even uses the spell that summons him

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

It's faster to reroll on the android emulators or if you can get your hand on a cheap android phone.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I would suggest rerolling on an emulator on your computer and linking the account to whatever you want to play on. It's much less work than manually rerolling.

How to automate rerolling:
1.Download Nox App player, open settings and make sure "Root" is ON
2.Install Shadowverse and Root browser
3.Open Shadowverse
4.Hit Ctrl+9 to open the macro recorder
5.Click the "start/resume" button at the top.
6.Skip through tutorial, open your packs, and open your card collection screen while filtering legendaries
7.Click the stop button, it will save your script

If your reroll is good this is the point where you link your account, otherwise continue to step 8.

8.Close out of the shadowverse app
9.Open Root browser and navigate to data/data/com.Cygames.Shadowverse/shared_prefs
10a.If your reroll is bad delete the file titled "com.cygames.Shadowverse.v2.playerprefs.xml" (click and hold the file until the menu appears)
10b.If you want to keep rerolling but you don't want to lose your current account rename it something else
11.Reopen shadowverse, you will be prompted to make a new account
12.Click the play button next to the script you made earlier
13.Jack off until it finishes, then either keep or return to step 8.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

cannot hit face

Meh.

SniperGod
SniperGod

albert is pretty core to any sword deck, animated to boot

idontknow
idontknow

impregnates him

*attempts to

FastChef
FastChef

The difference is this faggot cannot steal lethal out of fucking nowhere, like Ragnaros.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Try meming at 0 point Masters
Go against nothing but Shadow and Dragon
50% avg winrate
Try out mid-range shadow
12 game win streak

These new cards are insanely good.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Echtar is one hell of a card. Instantly flip the board AND threaten lethal.

WebTool
WebTool

What if I BULLIED Luna?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Robber pls.

Flameblow
Flameblow

It's AAAAWRIGHT

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

by the laws of karma your next reincarnation will be as a little girl who is getting bullied

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Doesnt take that long to be honest so its fine,

SO do I reroll?? or keep this?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Luna IS NOT for bullying

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Implying he doesn't want that

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I say reroll.

Snarelure
Snarelure

who said that karma was evil?

Evilember
Evilember

I would keep rerolling. The legendaries aren't bad but they don't lend themselves to making any decks quickly.

TechHater
TechHater

CURSE YOU SONZAI EKUSHU!

Booteefool
Booteefool

Everytime i played against frogfags today they've played frog on t3 and well on t2 or t4. Fucking meme luck shitters

idontknow
idontknow

Girls are no fun unless you give them a hard time.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

So, despite new expansion bringing some Neutralcraft support, I am yet to see any Neutralcraft decks in action. Anybody seen any?

Techpill
Techpill

If you can't beat em, rent a cabin in Finland and hide there until the whole thing blows over and everyone forgets.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Are you going to stream it live?

likme
likme

How does one make a Tarnished Grail deck?

Flameblow
Flameblow

No, it's always going to be meme except for overcosted followers that can only realistically be played in dragon. Probably intentionally, as making a top tier deck playable by all classes would kill diversity and make mulligans terrible.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

i played this one for unranked dailies, except +1 feena -1dod (not sure if it's better though)

shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.6CnKM.6CnKM.6CnKM.5zWm2.5zWm2.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.68_dc.68_dc.68_dc.6CnKW.6CnKW.68zBg.68zBg.68zBg.68_dm.68_dm.6CsCi.6CsCi.6CsCi.6Cpmm.6Cpmm.6Cpmm.6923i.6923i.61LeE.61LeE.68_dS.68_dS.61Pni.61Pni.6CpmS.6CpmS.659nE.659nE.6CpmS.61NLc.61NLc.659nE

worked well

strix, goblin princess and merfolk are must have imo

not sure about v. spear, it's a tempo loss and this deck kind of needs tempo badly, but i didn't really try it

Lunatick
Lunatick

completely banish all t2, t3 and t4 plays enemy shadow has
they flood the board anyways with zombie party and death's breath
clear those with lion/themis since I'm out of banish
time to flood even more with eachtar and thane
oh look, they drew into a catacomb, can't even clear anymore on t8+
Fuck, atleast haven has banish against this cancer, how do other classes deal with this?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Been playing a pure RoB otk roach deck and climbing in AA2-3 but I don't "auto" win vs dragon with it. Decided to test this deck. 7-3
w haven
l aggro (follower spam) sword
l aggro shadow
w aggro (?) blood
w storm (?) dragon
w aegis haven
l aegis haven
w ramp dragon
w storm dragon
w aggro shadow
Jungle warden is so fucking retarded, holy shit.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Does Flame and Glass Dshift count?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Play bladeshift and bounce everything then ignore your dshift and play a bunch of followers with enchanted sword buffs because they have no board clear or wards.

WebTool
WebTool

just play dirtrune, my man
been shitting on frogfags all day with curse and professor

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

you can put it in an aegis deck, or some candalabra deck, don't get your hopes up

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

The point of playing a control class is that you're supposed to play something on t8+ that threatens them worse than the sum of everything they can put on the board threatens you.
What are your finishers?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

only if you have a neutral d-shift, otherwise ramp dragon is a way more neutralcraft neutralcraft than flame/glass d-shift

Playboyize
Playboyize

Haven
Dragon
Haven
Dragon
Haven
Dragon
Haven
Dragon
Haven
Dragon
Haven
Dragon
Haven
Dragon
great meta xD
at least let me see a fucking shadow deck fucking faggots

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Link it famo

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

They don't, shadow insane. Losing to them a lot as other crafts, easy winstreaks when doing my shadow daily in ranked.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I rather not die a slow, agaonizing death against dragon

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

losing with Shadow
Uh, get good?

girlDog
girlDog

2x Seraph and 1x Grail.
I seldom lose to dragon, since surprisingly enough many of them aren't running lightning blast or odin.
Grail also helps when I can't safely drop seraph since shadow has a bunch of 2/2s out.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I wish I was good like you. I can barely win 40% in unranked facing memes and dead archetypes like JO and Nep.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Here we go again
prntscr.com/evuiap/direct
prntscr.com/evuihy/direct

What do you guys think?

Emberburn
Emberburn

reroll

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Go over to shadowverse.gamepress.gg/decks and see what legendaries are present in decks for the classes you want to play, then look for at least 4 of them. That's it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

only tsubaki and aegis are usable, reroll

likme
likme

Reroll. It might be easier to just pick a class you think you wanna play and try to aim for those legendaries that belong to the class. If you're a metacancer net decker, then for right now the two best classes are dragon and shadow, but dragon requires like 15 legendaries.

WebTool
WebTool

Keep it. Vial Roost, Teena, Eidolon, Hulking Giant, Ginger. That's 5k5 vials already. Coupled with the gold from private matches and AI, you should be able to make 2 decks or 3, depend on the deck.
Just don't try to craft Wallet Dragon.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I Would love to play A Sword deck, seems fun but Okay Rerolling again

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Fuck, you are annoying. Pick a fucking class and roll until you get 2 copies of a core legendary.

Snarelure
Snarelure

You fucking should have stopped rerolling when you had animated Albert if you wanted to play sword lmao.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Aim for Alberts and you're good to go. Settle for 1 Albert or aim for 2 if you aren't totally bored of rerolling.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Dont worry my dude on my linked account I got 2 alberts and Another swordcraft legend, No idea his name atm but he was animated aswell

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

What are the best t2 classes and where are updated tier lists?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Going first should be banned.

Methnerd
Methnerd

That sounds good enough to start with. Why are you still rerolling?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Sword, Dragon, Shadow.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Storm should be banned.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Play Dark Jeanne if you feel your board nuke is lacking. And Dragon has a better time than most due to crazy amount of Aoe and ramp, still a disadvantaged matchup, though.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

new shadowverse patch
after first/second is decided, the player getting first can choose to go second instead (before the drawing phase)

Yes or no?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Mainly curiousity at what I can get, My main is actually pretty good but I feel pretty bad for using the cancershadowpedo Deck and I got alittle frustrated with how that I cant make other decks like dragon, Only sword, shadow, and haven

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Thor
Havencraft
5pp
4/3
Fanfare: Randomly deal 2 damage to a enemy follower for each amulet you have on your field. If there is no enemy follower deal 2 damage to the enemy leader instead.

Y/N? I want to make storm haven great again.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Sybil and Prince are both fucking retarded and desperately need a nerf.

hairygrape
hairygrape

This is blatant powercreep

TreeEater
TreeEater

calling luna cancer

Totally didn't expect to hear that 2 weeks ago.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Nerf wards.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

kys pedotumor

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Dragon has always been the P2W class, only they've always been missing the "W" part of that abbreviation. Now though, they've added in the "W" and the meta went to shit because of it.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I've been with Luna since DE. Sue me.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Post haven decks without Aegis I want to play play haven but I find Aegis way too fucking unfair when it works

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Im going by what everyone else says, And As fun as it is to play With that deck It felt sort of unfair all the times I won with that one reaper that does 4Hp damage on the leader whenever I have 4 shadows, and It usually happened when they had lethal and it just happened to be my turn when they had 4 or less HP and I Just happen to topdeck him

FastChef
FastChef

How would you nerf them without making them unplayable though

hairygrape
hairygrape

I don't care. Make them unplayable. They need to be removed.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Hope you like Seraph then.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Sybil: Heal at the start of the turn.
Catacomb: Doesn't give itself a skeleton.

hairygrape
hairygrape

You have to go back.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

ESL as fuck

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

makes 1/1's out of dead followers
more broken than a free healing, cheap, ramp enabling character

Include some fucking AOE removal you retard. Shit, sub in that 3 cost 1 damage AOE if you gotta. Most of Shadow's shit isn't due to this guy, it's due to all of the other cards they can flood with followed by Eachtar coming in to lop your cock off by buffing everyone.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

that's 6 cards, and you mentioned 4 replacements.
Would it be correct to assume: 2x dod, 2x wotf, 1x glimmering, 1x elfqueen?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

actually can't deal with a fucking bone chimera

It's your fault leaving his board intact, dumbass.

Soft_member
Soft_member

teena is decent

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

persistent board presence is huge against board wipes and provides free damage since board wipes take up an entire turn.

the extra shadow generation is also enormous. eachtar is as powerful as he is because they have almost double the shadows they normally would if they draw catacombs which means they get a bigger board from him or can clear more threats.

TechHater
TechHater

Decent doesn't cut it. You need OP cards in your deck.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Yeah there's SO MUCH you can do going second! Think of all the 2-3 mana AoEs!

DeathDog
DeathDog

Yes? Soccermom has been around since forever fucking everyone going second. Why are you so mad over a bunch of 1/1s instead of an actual threat, like a 5/6 ward on turn 3?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

prntscr.com/evuwbx/direct

Main

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

leaving his board intact
Hahahahahhaha they keep coming even when its dead and bam Storm your face

likme
likme

playing a craft other than haven ever
it's like you want to get raped by an endless horde of self replicating bullshit.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Tell me the craft that you are playing and lets improve by bashing your head in

girlDog
girlDog

It's 1/1's dude. There are plenty of ways to clear that shit. And Eachtar's shadow ability is only good as a pinch ward negator, because the turn you play him you either win due to previous existing units (usually from Death's Breath or Zombie party, in my experience), or you watch everything get nuked next turn.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Are you the tard who keeps rerolling? Keep that shit.

Skullbone
Skullbone

I'm so glad no one runs angelic barrages these days

RavySnake
RavySnake

Whatchu guys think of this deck?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Floral Fencer is shit
1-drops are a waste at this point
DoD is shit in Sword
Understand Luminous Mage is busted
Throw in AOE
And boom, MidRange Sword is the way to climb again.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Keep it, do NOT reroll this account no matter who tell you.
Except for the 2 Fairy Princess, everything else is meta as fuck. Do the AI and private matches for gold and you can build a few decks.
Just remember, don't build Wallet Ramp Dragon, it's too expensive.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Cut Lionel, put 2 Aerin in.

Illusionz
Illusionz

keep, you made it dude, you can play the game

Emberburn
Emberburn

mangrove
beetle warrior
Lionel
1 aerin
Delete deck

Flameblow
Flameblow

forgot pic

SniperWish
SniperWish

1-drops are a waste at this point

1 drop 1/1 storm is never a waste.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

try it out before asking bro

StonedTime
StonedTime

Catacomb being made 4PP would be pretty easy and it'd still make the card usable. Sybil only healing at the start of your turn would be still make it good too, but they haven't nerfed any legendaries so far and it'll probably stay that way. If they nerfed Dragon at all they'd probably nerf Zell, although I don't think they'll nerf him either.

Supergrass
Supergrass

reroll
Reroll are for fags. It fit much more Redditos

FastChef
FastChef

Catacomb being made 4PP would be pretty easy and it'd still make the card usable

Catacomb stays 3PP but the resulting skeletons have "Last Word: Banish This Follower If Destroyed".

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

The issue is clearing everything else first. Getting in 3 free chip after a Themis is huge, especially because of them staying on board for Eachtar if you're going first.

It's the synergy that makes it strong, even if they board clear you can just Thane after and pressure again for Eachtar lethal. It all works together perfectly.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Admit it retard, you invested a decent amount of money before you learned about rerolling. Didn't you?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

cyclone blade and monica are questionable

hairygrape
hairygrape

going second against shadow
they drop a 1-drop
pass
they drop a 2-drop
use removal on the 2-drop
they drop catacomb
it's literally the same as playing a bone chimera
but muh whining anyway

Literally retarded.

Techpill
Techpill

I always invested a decent amount of skill, that's.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Cyclone Blade
not an auto-include

And people wonder why Sword keeps losing.

JunkTop
JunkTop

mangroove

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Cyclone Blade is a must right now.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I'd rather they cost 1 necromancy each, that way it can't snowball early game and later on they end up paying for themselves but it requires you to think about how possibly trade to get the shadows back instead of just having them given to you.

viagrandad
viagrandad

First game in AA3, forest vs dragon
He plays bahamut, I tia it and bounce tia back to hand
he plays ouroboros later, tia it and ancient elf
again later he plays his second bahamut, tia and ancient elf
at the point he uses his second ouroboros he dies to silver bolt
lel

iluvmen
iluvmen

Yeah, then I see some ranked players actually trying to get over it instead of whining out. Like, I actually see pic-related being a turn 4 play.

Techpill
Techpill

5/6 ward on turn 3
Thats very rare scenario, almost impossible these days. Getting prince on top of 2+ follower really easy. And hes actually better than bone chimera when used on 1 follower, because skeletons spread between 2 bodies. Unlike prince you can just ignore chimera and kill other follower.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

That would go against the card's concept of making shadows. At 4PP you wouldn't be able to combo it so easily early on and Orothrus wouldn't be a near automatic buff to someone. Right now Soulsquasher is a lot better than people thought she'd be because you can use her to control the board on turn 5 and then get back your shadows with Catacomb.

Illusionz
Illusionz

woops I meant Lily, not Tia.

massdebater
massdebater

dunno, no top masters/tourney winning "midrange" decks used it as far as i know

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

That would throw the card right into the useless territory. It only really works because it can be played on T3 and pop out at most, 3 followers after everything dies.

happy_sad
happy_sad

You don't even have Floral Fencer to put followers on the board. The only way you'll ever use Cyclone Blade is on turn 7 by comboing it with a 2 cost follower.

Skullbone
Skullbone

It's clearly an issue when even Haven has a 40%/43% win rate against the current mid shadow when banishing and spamming board clears are their biggest strengths.

I get that you like the deck because you play it, but don't get attached to it because there's no way it's not getting nerfed when it's clearly overtuned.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

their board of tokens matters much more now because they follow it up with another catacomb/op buff cards, retard

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Right now Soulsquasher is a lot better than people thought

Anyone who thought she'd be anything other than an auto-include in every Shadow deck from now on is a moron. It's basically "2PP: remove an opponents evo orb".

eGremlin
eGremlin

"as far as i know"
consider how much you know
also just because it hasn't been caught onto yet, doesn't mean it's not good. From playing constantly against Dragon, Haven, and Shadow, I'm gonna be ruining this shit until a shift in meta.

Floral Fencer is shit right now, no point in using her right now.
The only way you'll ever use Cyclone Blade is on turn 7 by comboing it with a 2 cost follower.
This is simply not the case.

Supergrass
Supergrass

everyone always has perfect hands
everyone always has 3 of whatever they need in their hand when they need it

The game doesn't work that way.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Great, it cucks aggro for a few turns. Otherwise it's shit.
Worthless against Haven and Dragon. They can just trade, take the damage, wait it out. It's a dead draw in most cases.
There's a good reason why the top forest players don't use it.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

tfw I'll go into a crusade to update every one of my old custom decks
Rip. I don't know if I should save the old ones due to (meta/viable) nostalgic purpose or just overwrite everything and be fine with it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

floral fencer shit
Are we back in RoB where people said this too and decided to take her out for the faggot White General? Then people put her back floral fencer being shit is a meme.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

but "guys in this specific scenario where you have a turn 2 removal it's only as good as bone chimera" is how the game works

RumChicken
RumChicken

turn 2 removal

Crash a fucking follower into their followers you retard. You know Catacomb is a thing, and you know the best early curve is 1-2-catacomb. You can do things besides swing for the enemy player, you know.

girlDog
girlDog

Why does KYS Blood always have Belphegor on turn 4? I have literally never seen the deck not have Belphegor on curve.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Oh you mean when the meta shifted and she became good again? Nigga, it happens with most staples. This applies to not only the cards in the decks, but also the decks themselves. At the beginning of RoB, what did you only see? Aggro Blood and Daria. Then what happened? Aggro Blood became shit because people changed their decks for the meta. Certain cards became a must in decks, while others were put aside. This constantly shifts along with the best decks. Right now, Floral Fencer is out. She's just not good right now. She could be good in a week, maybe even tomorrow, but right now, she ain't shit.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I fucking hate how volatile this game has become. Opponent plays a single card and suddenly you can't win anymore. It's becoming fucking Yugioh.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

you can't if they go first you retard. everyone already trades against shadow. fucktard shadow players just pretend people haven't discovered this incredible, deep counterplay and solely play face decks in a laughable attempt to pretend midshadow isn't retardedly broken

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

yes let's start teching in 1 drops so we can not kill off goblin and shadow beast. what a fucking idiot you are man, what does that change if you're not going first?

this is the reason that shadow has such a ridiculously higher chance to win when going first, are you really this dumb?

WebTool
WebTool

r9 my budget pepe

DeathDog
DeathDog

Because the few times they don't have Belphegor on 4, they lose and you forget about it very quickly.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Yeah let me just play my 2PP 2 attack rush you plonker.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

She doesn't fuck people going second they just evo to remove her. Big Soccer mom going second is way more tempo

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Why do you post if you're absolutely clueless about the game?

Flameblow
Flameblow

a shadow player can only have 3 catacomb
somehow you are at disadvantage running 3 whole-souled swing, zombie party, blazing breath

Babbies

Lunatick
Lunatick

why do you have only 3 followers that can buff
where are your kunoichi trainee and ninja trainees

farquit
farquit

those are the general stats, here are the ones for just masters.

shadowlog.com/trend/2017/14/4/41

Skullbone
Skullbone

What's the better source between App Media and Game AI?
I tend to like the decks I see on App Media more.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Floral fencer is good though, most of the top sword players use her. She puts bodies on the field to compete with shadow while also setting up many followers to be buffed by luminous knight

girlDog
girlDog

app media

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

why do you have only 3 followers that can buff
you mean creed?? to be fair. just made the deck on a whim. working on the little details. it worked so far tho

takes2long
takes2long

My point still stands though. If they actually nerfed catacomb to unusable state, he could just be replaced with even a bone chimera and wouldn't lose much of the edge except against hagcraft.

hairygrape
hairygrape

see and classes like haven are already running 3 scriptures and some of them are even using forbidden ritual. it's clearly not helping them have a favorable matchup.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Catacomb doesn't just produce a couple tokens turn 3 though. He can be used throughout the game to keep their board sticky which makes their buff cards better.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I think the issue might be you're talking about aggro shadow when others are talking about mid. Catacombs and Chimera aren't even remotely comparable later in the game after you drop things like Thane or Death's Breath.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

That guy is saying floral is shit but not explaining why he thinks that lol. "SHES OUT, NOT GOOD NOW, MAYBE NEXT WEEK SHE'LL BE GOOD." I'll still be using my floral fencers because she actually is not shit.

FastChef
FastChef

scripture and ritual
not crippling most of shadow's play

The only way they will be winning is if they have normal board flood like goblin princess. Eachtar without a board or shadows to generate zombies is pathetic.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

kunoichi trainee

Lunatick
Lunatick

Nero calling a Knight of the Round Table a whore of Babylon
Bloody Nips

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

openrec.tv/live/Ue7okGDh7Xt nip playing hag at 37k mp.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Oops, I see it's Gawain calling out Nero

Illusionz
Illusionz

At this point, just how do you differentiate between those two? Even that aggro shadow that streaked 30 wins has 3 Eachtar.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

"""""mid"""" will have grimnir and 1 less phantom howl, that's it

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

db/thane. sometimes goblin princess.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Midrange is a meme in this game.

askme
askme

Can I get a concede? 40617

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Too many decks just autowin if they go first and have a good curve. Not that card games are really skill intensive in the first place but the game is literally on who opens better now.

girlDog
girlDog

I'm not bothering to explain my reasoning because it will devolve into both sides shitposting. All there is to it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

REGENERATING HYMEN

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

It's becoming fucking Yugioh
Yugioh
In Yugioh you can't even hold cards because you burn them all on the 1st turn. At least the mechanics SV uses will never allow the game to reach this point.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

what is every sword deck

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

At least in Yugioh there are actual counterplays.

5mileys
5mileys

I'm trying to build an Aggro Forestcraft deck. What cards do I absolutely need? I already have one Petal Fencer.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Mail system when? I want to send fanmail to every salty disconnecting jap.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Say what?

idontknow
idontknow

ojousama let me throw away that albert for you~ you dont need him
What did spring cleaning mean by this?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

meme
That's some elaborate vocabulary you have right here.

TreeEater
TreeEater

You mean autopilot printed powercrap.

cum2soon
cum2soon

bullying some poor japanese salarymen who just want to have a casual card game match while riding the train home
How about no?

DeathDog
DeathDog

She will wipe out the crap!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

up against Dragon
have Aegis and a buffed Pure Healer
10 HP left
opponent summons Saha into Bahamut, then Zell
evolves Zell and selects Bahamut
Bahamut can't attack directly and Zell can't kill the healer
mfw

Inmate
Inmate

Jealous maids that dont get to be part of his harem. Good ridance I'd say

Methshot
Methshot

4/5 is still common.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

What is the point of Crystalia Lily in this deck? Doesn't it just make your Pika Pika pulls less consistent?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

You'll be lucky to get a 3/4 AE in this meta. Everyone runs 5 million removal for your tokens.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

draft a crazy t2 shadow deck
go 0-5 against even more bullshit dragon and sword

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Which craft has the best stage theme, and why is it Dragon?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

you cant draft shadow as a regular shadow deck
are you stupid

Methshot
Methshot

Ojousama should love her maids more than that thing

Emberburn
Emberburn

Yet somehow a catacomb opener is a problem.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Forest stage has best music, but I fucking hate elves.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It's a problem because it makes the board resilient. You can clear tokens once in a turn. At low pp, you probably can't do it twice, so you eat the damage.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

shits on Dragon

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

That removed by single Lyrial evo or any hit+removal. Catacomb into 2 followers wins the game right there.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I just want every meta-decking FotM player to die the most excrutiating slow death imaginable. Is that too much to ask?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Rogue's Creed
bellringer
banner
cursed general

farquit
farquit

Need a concede, please.

52125

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I dont have alberts and shit. thats why is budget

whereismyname
whereismyname

Thanks.

WebTool
WebTool

Don't play card games fagit.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

So? You could still put better budget alternatives in that deck that actually synergize better than your current shit.
You being poor does not excuse you from building a deck that is shit.
I can't imagine that deck succeeding outside of B

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Concede onegai
14694

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

win three Haven or Dragon
done in 30 minutes
win 4 Forest or Sword
3 1/2 hours later...

Inmate
Inmate

3-3 on A so far

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

tfw it accepted this deckname

TechHater
TechHater

Replace Rousing White General for more painful hits.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

a zoe deck? is that card even worth the vials

iluvmen
iluvmen

At least replace the cursed generals with white generals, you turbo nigger

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

JEWS ARE THE BEST

Emberfire
Emberfire

How do I git gud with sword?

I don't wanna spend money. What should I spend my story mode vials on?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Craft 3 Alberts and enter master

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Alberts.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Well, she's a huge tempo advantage if you play her on-curve especially as first player. Plus, she's just a solid cheap defender in a sun deck. And her voice is adorable. I wanna hug her.

WebTool
WebTool

Looks for cards with Storm with them, add a bunch of minions with Rush then craft Albert.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Unga harder. I just slapped together an Aggro list using what I had and it works fine for my dailies here in AA.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

better or worst???
do the W G change. add DoD, remove Ding Dong for Chuuny Grimnir

farquit
farquit

Either replace Blitz or Art with Jeno.
He can save you the trouble of evo and shit 2 1/1 later on.

Methshot
Methshot

Forest
turn 1 circle
turn 2 fairies
turn 3 AE
Obnoxious, but not invincible. If you have a turn 1 play, you can trade with one of the fairies and still keep your minion around.

Shadow
turn 1 Beast
turn 2 whatever
turn 3 Prince
The only counterplay is praying you have your 2PP removal.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'm trying to unga as hard as I can but it's not working when I'm the strictly worse class at unga-ing.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Ditch rogues creed

not worth it just for Pepe alone

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Simultaneously opened 10 ToG and 10 Core packs.
Got 1 Maelstorm Serpents from 10 ToG packa and 1 Beast Dominator from 10 Core packs. What's even the point?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

i didn't get any leggo in april whatsoever

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Have you tried unranked?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Rogue's creed doesn't work with pepe well and there is no point to using it without other ambush followers.
I would remove Blitz Lancer since you already have enough 3 drops.
Add 1 more quickblader and try running 3 Palace Fencers as a 2 cost buffer.
There is also little point in running 3 maid leaders in a deck like yours, you don't have any Alberts to fetch after all. I would just take her out and put something else in

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I had art cause Ninja Master but rarely get to save the card that far.

and replace with what??

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

sword craft worst class at unga
LUL tbqh

farquit
farquit

I get the same results with sword as well.
Shadow is one of your worst opponents as a sword player.
You can only win against them if you go first and get a perfect hand. If they go first, you might as well slap that concede button

DeathDog
DeathDog

Get matched against shadow
He goes first
Plays skull beast turn 1
Open menu: Concede

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

is sneks officially shit and vialable then?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Godd thing unga shadow run less burn nowdays

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

meta has settled
2 boring months of identical decks till we see new ones
Just kill me.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

get matched against shadow
he goes first
brings my hp to 10 in 5 turns
manage to regain board control and threaten lethal
turn 6 phantom howl + coco + mimi + evolve for 11 face damage
Nice game, shadowbabs

DeathDog
DeathDog

They're not shit but they're not good either.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Sneks are shit if you build a deck completely revolving around them

They're not bad as a wincon in midrange/control when they cost 5 from baphomet

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

no, sneks are good but just not in this meta. after the dragon and shadow nerfs they should see more play.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

You finally understood how does CCGs works. Gratz.

farquit
farquit

fucking esl nigger LEAVE

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

ERIKA is for ___

Spamalot
Spamalot

They are good but only works in a deck revolving around them unlike what this idiot believe. They may sometimes works if you shoehorn them into a Control deck but you'll have to deal with a Bapho gacha.

cum2soon
cum2soon

the princess' futa cock.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Sucking her gorgeous big maid lady dick.

Emberfire
Emberfire

yet virgin and suicide is blocked
what the fuck cygames

WebTool
WebTool

just for anyone interested, here is fririn's midrange shadow list, last 2 are wright king + hector (not sure which is ran as 3x and 2x though. fririn is the no. 1 masters player at the moment and also a shadow mainer

eGremlin
eGremlin

What's esl about this post?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Midrange Shadow is now 62% WR going first and 55% going second

I already expected this to be the case when I saw that MR's stats are better than that of aggro shadow so i was not surprised its becoming popular

So the question is, what kind of new deck you anons think might be able to deal with it?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

WE WILL PROTECT OTOHIME-SAMA'S HYMEN

TreeEater
TreeEater

That explains all the snake decks I've seen winning games in ladder, right?

iluvmen
iluvmen

0 orthrus
3 urd with only skull beast/corpse/bone chimera to get value out of it

Japanese players are insane

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Just in case people might want to craft cards to try this.
Don't. It sucks just like every other forest deck out there.

Illusionz
Illusionz

3 Soul Conversions
What a madman

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

can also use it on thane if your opponent ignores it. but yeah i agree

Emberburn
Emberburn

Its kind of what I expected it to be

Back during the first days of ToG, I realize that the MR Shadow decks were a bit too slow and had a tendency to fall apart against Aggro decks, especially Aggro Shadow, so I thought "Maybe you try aiming for a better opening like Aggro while retainining sustainability?

And lo, here I am seeing people putting in lower cost cards among others while cutting out the dead cards

Evilember
Evilember

How is it different from like 90% of forest lists out there

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

How does ESLs speaks Englishes?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Wolfroachwardencraft is pretty fun

5mileys
5mileys

Where did you sneak it from, user?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Anybody have an updatet Phoenix Roost Satan JO Crystal Astraroths Reckoning OTK deck lying around?

Methshot
Methshot

war trophy

Snarelure
Snarelure

does fririn stream or put up videos?

StonedTime
StonedTime

from playing it i feel like the board flood is much more consistent with chimera, and ive gotten couple of games where i straight up win with t3 chimera t3 urd t5 catacomb. those 3 urd synergies you mentioned are more than enough IMO, i feel like orthrus pushes for dmg but doesnt improve your board as well as urd. you can also get free 0 cost followers from that wright king's last word, + its nice to remove buffed up enemy shadow reapers

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Isn't Roost still under maintenance?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Perfectly fine in a deck with corpses and chimeras.
I've been running something very similar since week 1 and it's more justifiable because of attendant, but Japs sure do love their chimeras.

5mileys
5mileys

Seems like it's just 2x Eachtar and 2 x Thane or 3x Eachtar and 1x Thane.

takes2long
takes2long

where*

StonedTime
StonedTime

I've been running Chimera + Attendant with the Urd package, but never thought of cutting Orthrus and Attendant for other stuff

I'll have to give it a shot, seems interesting

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

5 7 cost cards
x2 x2 or x3 x1

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

i cant read japanese some im not 100% sure its fririns, but i was watching this streamer openrec.tv/user/Cherie_Shadova and he named the deck as such so im assuming it is fririns. i have no idea if fririn streams or no, ive tried searching for him on twitter etc to no avail

Soft_member
Soft_member

You already knew he was telling bull when he said "it goes even against shadow"
Yeah right

Emberburn
Emberburn

Shit guess I miscounted somewhere.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

That dude is one elusive guy who won't even tweet, so I am not sure if I am going to buy it unless this cherie dude is a friend of him.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Why is this slut so wet already?

likme
likme

Should I craft Cerbs and Eachtars to push for masters with Mid Shadow and Storm Dragon?
Or should I keep memeing in AA0 with Sneks, Otomeme and George of the Jungle?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Why does she look like she's enjoying this?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Make it to masters with meme decks
You can do it, user

eGremlin
eGremlin

don't be a tierwhore faggot

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Climb ladder trees with George.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

None of those decks are meme.

WebTool
WebTool

Best time to climb ranks is when a new expansion comes out and everything is in chaos.
I've climbed 3000 points on day 1 with mid shadow but now there are much more shadow mirrors and Bahazell dragons overall and it's slightly harder to climb now.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

because she's maid for royal family, the king or captain of the guard probably have her in their bed every night

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Sneks
meme
Otomeme
literally referred to as a meme
George
not a meme

SniperWish
SniperWish

midrange
no grimnir

Uh, shadowbabs?

Seriously though, how do you deal with going second against aggro shadow?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

just had someone pull an atomeme on me during my masters trials together with 2x mammoth and 1x ceridwen, before emoting >sorry and conceding. is this a common occurence?(conceding to trial players i mean)

Skullbone
Skullbone

Any point of running Odin these days?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

ouro, test of strength, surprise seraph

massdebater
massdebater

I want to be the last to see Erika after a long night.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

grimnir and othrus are broken
not in the /guy/ list

Another proof that /svg/ cannot into card game.

DeathDog
DeathDog

that's assuming you get lucky to recognize the best deck

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

There's no proof it's actually his list though.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Is AA0 to AA1/2 the most difficult climb? I'm assuming once I reach AA3 or late AA2 I can finally get matched with master tier players so I can get 150 points per win, right?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

feels pretty rough but midrange tends to fare slightly better as you have zombie party to deal with his 2 drops and deathbreath @6 if u manage to survive, still tough tho

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

play haven
don't draw themis/lion spirit once
i don't think i've ever been this close to uninstalling this shit game

Illusionz
Illusionz

You can get matched against Masters as early as mid AA0 I think, and later on it's actually harder to get points from Masters because the gap between your scores gets smaller and smaller

TechHater
TechHater

What?

DeathDog
DeathDog

orthrus
stats of a goblin
useless if you have no board
not balanced

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Why is owlcat not that used very often? It can eat skeletons without getting killed.

WebTool
WebTool

It has 1 defense. There are like a million things that can remove a 1 defense follower.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Most of the commonly run things that can deal with owl can deal with a 2hp drop too except for maybe lyrial evolve. I guess you can say angel, NE NE and angelic snipe kill it too, but decks that run those are so sparse right now, they aren't even a problem.

massdebater
massdebater

Because killing just 1 skellies is not very useful, you need to kill all of them.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Anyone mind conceding for a daily?I'll do the same if you stay
Match id:21527

farquit
farquit

i think its an ok tech to deal with ur shadow mirrors, what deck do you plan to include it into?

massdebater
massdebater

Thanks

Supergrass
Supergrass

They think Aegis works with Arriet.
Havenbabs, they never learn to use their brain.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Nah, was just wondering. But I guess Unica would already suffice.

Evilember
Evilember

want to play suicide blood
no Belphegors
want to play sword
no Gawains
want to play dirt
no big guys
want to play haven
no aegis
want to play dragon
lol

I've been fucked so hard this expansion in terms of legos. Opened about 80 packs and only got Minthe, 2 Dark Jeanne, 1 Roland and 1 Belphegor.
I crafted 3 Hectors day 1 because I play shadow so at least I made the right gamble this expansion but still

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Sometimes its good to run 1 snek in. Kys blood. Midrange luna couldnt handle it.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Hope we get more Luminous folks next set.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Tested a few games, it improves field presence but midrange already has that in spade. On the other hand it's slower than other versions and has no reach which leaves you vulnerable to Dragon's field wipes and can't capitalize on the Blood matchup. Guess I'll put back in a few Phantom Howls.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Daily reminder to star those 2 cards if you want free vials soon.

w8t4u
w8t4u

There's only loli Leonidas left

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

1 mana 0/3 Commander when?

Would be a great enabler for some shit.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Dirt burn doesn't actually need Big Guy I think. I'm thinking of giving it a try myself because Dragon is not that fun and I'm getting worn out from playing too much Shadows.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Why the need to star them? Do only starred cards get a refund when hit by a nerf or what?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

90 packs deep and only 1 zell
rng is cruel

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

You know it.

Booteefool
Booteefool

It's so you won't vial them by accident.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Contemplating wether to build the rest of kys Blood with Dealer or go and build Snek Blood.

That slithering bastard is just such a fun card.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Nerf predictions:
Zell evo 2 2 stats
Shadow reaper removed stealth
Catacombs does not get the last word effect himself
Sybil becomes a 4 4
Anymore cards need imaginary nerfing? We all know they aren't going to get nerfed reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Not keeping everything
I didn't expect feena to be affected back in RoB.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Any Dark Jeanne meme decks?

eGremlin
eGremlin

shadow reaper

Nice, I can go play guilty courier instead.

Soft_member
Soft_member

tfw everything is decided by a fucking dice roll
Delete shadowcraft

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

If they did nerf cards it won't be for like 2 months

eGremlin
eGremlin

But you don't have lethal?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

New storm haven list run her

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

The rape is not over yet, Rowen.

Emberfire
Emberfire

You're still dead to mord retard

Firespawn
Firespawn

you're dead next turn drooling retard

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I don't like card X, it needs to be nerfed
nerfing cards from previous expansions

That's no how it works. Leave reaper alone, nigger.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Israfil kills Lurching before attacking due to AoE
Then Lurching kills one of my followers at random.

Of course he killed Israfil and I'm on tilt now.

FastChef
FastChef

Why aren't people teching Lucius against shadow?

Supergrass
Supergrass

shadowreaper stealth removed

lol, no. Is it even possible to nerf that card, it's from RoB. If it was even to be nerfed, it should be gain x/0. It's so fucking stupid where my mays or orthus kills the minions, then buffs the reaper. It's a high risk low reward for the opponent if he wants to kill the reaper with a random damaging card.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

invalidate most other control decks
dragonfags still complain

massdebater
massdebater

YOU IDIOT HAVE ONLY 10 DAMAGE, MORDE KILLS YOU NEXT TURN BECAUSE YOU PULLED ISRAF WITH SAHA SO YOU GOT NO HEALS AND DIE TO 5 DAMAGE MORDE

iluvmen
iluvmen

Same reason they refuse to use Barrage.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

But you're still dead next turn even without the reaper retard.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Israfil hits face

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

that 37k mp haven streamer from earlier was using 2 .

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

If I linked my steam and phone SV account together but delete my sv data on my phone, does the steam one get deleted too? I wanna start over.

Lunatick
Lunatick

8+2 = 10
12 - 10 = 2
learn math you braindead idiot

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

8+2=12?
Retard

Soft_member
Soft_member

You don't get it. Dragon needs to win EVERYTHING all the time because that one deck did poorly against that one other deck in the previous expansion.

viagrandad
viagrandad

will of the forest

5mileys
5mileys

Wait, now I see your point.
Guess I'm just salty then.

Flameblow
Flameblow

why would you not just play and evo isa? at least you live that way

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I've pretty much skipped RoB. How come Daria lost its cancer status, and whats the new cancer now? Even just deck names or archetypes would be fine.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I run kinda standard kys blood.
I just have replaced 2x vapiric bite with 2x revelation and 1x succubus eith 1x sneks.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

aggro and especially midrange shadow is the new cancer
closely followed by storm ramp dragon

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

He probably thinks Zell has storm too. Now all the dragoncucks will ask for storm on Zell because they think they are entitled to win.

takes2long
takes2long

What is that amulet?

WebTool
WebTool

turn 1 front lines
turn 2 front lines, front lines
turn 3 pepe
HOLY SHIT NECK YOURSELF YOU TRIPLE NIGGER

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

holy sentinel

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

angel
decks that run those are so sparse right now

rly

idontknow
idontknow

being so bad you can't deal with meme decks

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

So basically aggro that is somehow faster without bricking as hard as Daria? Hmmmm. I guess Eachtar is that broken or something?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Could you post it? Can't find anything

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

the aggro build is strictly worse than the midrange build

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

fuck this game is so awful now

Methnerd
Methnerd

What runs this exactly?
Maybe saw it played once by some Albert sword faggot who just couldn't let go in the 2 weeks since release in Masters.

whereismyname
whereismyname

why would zell be nerfed

he needs an evo to do anything

cum2soon
cum2soon

-3 dogmas
+2 temple defenders
+1 cudgel

-2 frogs
+1 guardian sun
+1 something i forgot

Emberburn
Emberburn

implying its difficult to keep an evo point with dragon
Dragon is the new albertcraft

RumChicken
RumChicken

Just make Zell affect Dragon followers only
No more Sahaquiel bullshittery

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Blame dragon.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

The funny thing is that then he's useless because there are no decent dragon followers. :^)

Playboyize
Playboyize

it was a themis now that i look at the list. he had at least 2.

WebTool
WebTool

Levi can no longer come down and remove 2 followers since he will just leave 2 skeletons instead.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Abloobloobloo dealing 11 damage face for 10pp is too weak I deserve to deal 13 damage for 9pp because reasons
Fuck off dragon cunt

likme
likme

Sybil becomes a 4 4
they wont nerf a legendary, retard

Snarelure
Snarelure

Both dragon and shadow are fucking cancer.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

everybody who runs lyrial can also run angel

JunkTop
JunkTop

Catacomb and Eachtar broken. Zombie party and Thane got huge value on their own and broken combined with Eachtar.

Illusionz
Illusionz

B-but I want my free damage on your turn 6, not turn 7.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

It's impossible. Like Zirnitra, she's simply been obsoleted.
Some people will still be getting hit by castle resolve otomemers but her day is done if she can't sock a swordsman and an EP away

cum2soon
cum2soon

new player here
how do I assemble a deck, they all require so many fuckin vials
I tried to play ranked, rank 2 beginner and I got fucked over and over by tons of legendaries

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Just because they can doesn't mean they do.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Run a ginger shift list then and stop hating

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Many swapped out angel for grimnir.

Techpill
Techpill

Just play the game and open packs. You'll get there. Do the Elite AI matches for 4000 more gold. Do 20 private matches for another 2000.

Start with cheap aggro decks, shadow or bats or maybe even banner

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Why would someone intentionally cripple an already weak deck.

JunkTop
JunkTop

well, check what gamepress decks run him there are a plenty

shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/angel-word

inb4 gamepress, how else can i show his popularity then

Soft_member
Soft_member

reminder to rope every shadowbab

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

elite AI matches? I also need to do the story I think

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

why not both

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why would someone use something they have to bring joy and diversity to the meta?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

But you play Runecraft?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Cards to star:
Grimnir
Dragoon Scyther
Rehab
Zell
Prince of Catacomb
Orthus
Soulsquasher
Zombie Party

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

no Gawains
gawain's a meme legendary right now desu

farquit
farquit

elite AI
In single player practice mode.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Open a private match room, put your user name in the Veeky Forums post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets

Supergrass
Supergrass

just mash some random shit in and it works

Spamalot
Spamalot

dshift
Not touching that shit

Inmate
Inmate

I like how Dragoon Scyther is just Date Masamune but BETTER in every single way.

Emberfire
Emberfire

How the fuck does it bring diversity to the meta? Gingershift is the exact same shit as Dshift except slower and therefore worse. It's not more fun to play and your opponents aren't going to hate you any less.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

59619

Need a concede pls

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Shadow
Ever not having a full board
You're proving his point retard.

Soft_member
Soft_member

dragoon
But why? I don't see many lists that run her.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

How should I go about improving this?
Main issues I feel are running out of cards and losing mirrors unless I have Lightning Blast because no Boros.
Wrath drake has been putting in some work though, I like him a lot.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

3pp storm bane

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

worse on curve, date also can survive after his rush

whereismyname
whereismyname

I'd say royal banner sword, aggro blood, dshift, and storm haven are your best bets, You could also try to make a budget facedragon deck with Aina's instead of Forte's.
Forest and shadow's meta decks all include x3 legs at the minimum. You can make with do without the cerbs in shadow but forest is kinda gimped without ancient elf.

takes2long
takes2long

You don't even need the overflow to get the fucking bane. They can just plop that shit right there and they just get a regular 3 body with bane, except with one defense less (except that almost never matters because it has fucking bane)

w8t4u
w8t4u

Yes, she's strong but nothing straight up retarded like Zell Baha.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Absolutely do the story even if you don't give a rats arse on what happens.

Most of the stories unlock core cards for the craft that you can't craft by normal means.

Booteefool
Booteefool

don't be a ladder fag, you're to poor right now.
Just play whatever you think looks cool.

cum2soon
cum2soon

date also can survive after his rush
Anything that fucking date with his skinny 4 defense ass can attack and survive didn't need the bane effect and most likely wasn't worth spending the motherfucking 7pp on

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

NO LUNAPEDO ALLOWED!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

worse on curve
lmao yeah Date can be a fucking fighter on turn 2, let's not take that away from him.

massdebater
massdebater

Luna > Vampy, this is fact.

Skullbone
Skullbone

I don't see many lists that run her.
Really? I feel like every other dragon I play against uses her.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Scyther is part of the reason why dragon can comfortably save ep for zell combo.

girlDog
girlDog

My daughterwives Luna and Vampy are so cute.

whereismyname
whereismyname

But if Zell gets nerfed, she won't be as strong anymore.

cum2soon
cum2soon

It's still a 3pp removal.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

She is obnoxious because she punishes defensive evolve vs sibyl and saha helicopter which are the best tempo moves for dragon midgame.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I pulled off the dream T4 gawain evo into T5 otohime into T6 luminous mage with knight evo against a swordbro. Poor guy, but this game was hilarious as fuck.

whereismyname
whereismyname

This wording
This shit implies that if you say have a Saha in hand when you play it, your Saha costs 4, but if you topdeck a Saha while this is up, she would cost 3.
Ree

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

No webm?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

saha helicopter

The Saha what?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I doubt Zell's gonna get nerfed with Laura running around.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Is there a full (perhaps non-blurred) version of this picture?

Booteefool
Booteefool

But if rehab and scyther are nerfed they wouldnt need to nerf zell. It depends on how ccygame want to tackle this. The safest is to star all of them just in case.

Inmate
Inmate

What part of 3pp kills something from hand isn't clear? She's a huge value gain.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Your fact is wrong.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Forgot pic

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Sword struggles with a sticky board to cyclone with and that's about it for board clear until israfil/bahamut.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I'm on it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

It kinda does but it's not the first time the english wording on a card is confusing.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

How's rehab working out in the meta?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Why don't people run Bloodhungry Matriarch?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

All that's happened is they've written the word 'by' instead of 'to'.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

And requires you to have Overflow. She's a flexible card that requires a condition to work, I think she's strong but nothing oppressive.
The burst from Zell is still bullshit even without those cards.

WebTool
WebTool

Very difficult to deal with if you go 1st and drop it on turn 3.

I'd love to see all those retards bashing it, Zell and Sybil to hell when they were first announced now.

TechHater
TechHater

It's a 4pp 2/5 ward that grows stronger later if you don't play on curve, on a ramp class. Of course it's strong.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Should gold be used on packets or arena?

viagrandad
viagrandad

As well as my ___ is working well on your ___ user. *blushes*

Firespawn
Firespawn

I still don't get how a 4 PP 2/5 ward that grows can be bad, fucker is literally the ideal play after turn 2 oracle.
Depends on how good you are at consistently getting at least 4 wins every run. If you can go arena grind if not just buy packs.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Enjoy.
my.mixtape.moe/vpdsqf.webm

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

What if it's sexual bullying?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Gets zombie partied, then bum rushed by a 2/2

Methshot
Methshot

f-fucking broken ass s-swordshitters
literally lmao

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Unless you can always go at least 3-2 in arena there is really no point doing it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

already conceded
lame as fuck, sasuga erika

Flameblow
Flameblow

2 for 1 trade is bad

Why do dragoncucks always want MORE? Cygames should just give them a 0pp Aegis with storm to shut them up. Oh and it should also banish the opponent's board obviously, can have those shadow players wining sometimes.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

That guy was asking about the meta and that shit usually happens.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Prince Catacomb's effect should be "whenever a follower dies, summon a skeleton"

Methshot
Methshot

dshift
joy and diversity
only 5 am and already the gayest post of the day

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Not as strong as the Floral Fencer → Luminous Mage dream.

Remember dragonbros, Fervor on turn 5 is NOT okay.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Any suggestion for my wolfrosememe deck? Gettin pretty good winrate in unranked tough

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Get lethal
Go to concede
They concede first
Fucking neck yourself you degenerate quitter filth. Take your lumps like a man.

Not wanting to see a new lego be played

Consider the following, how often do you ever have a does x when y body on the board that lasts beyond its turn?

Snarelure
Snarelure

vialing ANYTHING from the latest set
Come on user.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Well there's reaper but reaper has ambush so that's not really a argument.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

play cblood against ramp dragon
use up literally all of my deck
never actually had a chance to win
Nice game dotards

Nojokur
Nojokur

As someone who's played more Rose Queen that I'd like to admit, I'd say get Verdants.
They stall and fill your hand with Fairies, which is both what Queen wants.
Furthermore, you may need more than 1 Queen in some games, where you only get 2-3 Bursts and need to reload later on.
Not sure about the roaches, but I suppose I just dislike them.
If you're running into dragons a lot, get Lily and Pegasus Archer, they're both amazing, especially if you bounce them later with AE.

Booteefool
Booteefool

sandbagger
telling anyone to be a man

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

- Waltzing
+ Grimnir
Where is your Elven Princess Mage?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

post dick

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

everyone in /svg/ tells people not to do arena because they themselves can't get more than 2-3 on average

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Doesn't use your class kill combos
Can't kill them as a result
Dead

There's a raw power gap between decks. This isn't F/SN, the faker doesn't surpass the powercreep. An ironwrought-arthurian light deck isn't going to even hit 10% winrate against dragon.

Evilember
Evilember

Explain this Lunapedos?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Yeah but you are still a sandbagging scum so you don't get to complain.

Supergrass
Supergrass

requires overflow
Wow it's fucking nothing. You're overflow on like turn 5.

Scyther comes online before the opponent can even play anything worth hard removing for 3pp.

WebTool
WebTool

I was going to give him a free win. I can complain all day

5mileys
5mileys

You can play him and trade in your board/use kill effects. He doesn't need to survive the turn.

It would keep him at a similar power level in less aggressive decks but take away the bullshit irremovable aggro board functionality entirely.

Inmate
Inmate

Control Blood? More like Concede Blood.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

take a week break because the meta is fucking cancer
grimnir still isn't nerfed

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

It can't win against anything in the meta, it's a big fucking meme. Don't waste your vials on it.

inb4 avant blader
I hate Sword because you always have a short hand and you are very reliant on your topdecks, but Avant Blader can fix that. I used to hate the card, but after testing her, if you can play her without losing the game on the spot, you finally have cards in your hand and it feels amazing. Most of the time, you can't play her without losing the game, so she's really bad. Sword is hot garbage.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Yea i dislike roach too, same with tia they just resource hungry. Then i will try to replace with lilies and more queen, thanks for the suggestion bud.

I dont use grimnir out of principle. Evo stat gain in epm is pretty bad, so no.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Were you expecting him to concede at some point? Even Control decks needs wincon.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Goy, it's chilly in here.
What did they mean by this?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

And you give him a free win so you can beat up more newbies, that's real nice of you,

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

They wait at least 2 months for the meta to settle

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

My winrates are terrible because the cards are simply worse.

SniperGod
SniperGod

How to make DShift viable again
Fire Chain now prioritizes enemy followers with the highest ATK.
Merlin now draws the highest cost spellboost card in your deck
First, Second, and Final Curse can now target the enemy leader
Ice Golem lasts 1 extra turn if you evolve it
Mythril Golem's fanfare effect now also hits the enemy leader for half the damage value(rounded down)

How to fix Dirtrune
Runic Guardian now has Ward by default. Her Earthrite effect changed to +2/2 from +1/1
Elementary Alchemy cost reduced to 2 from 3.
Fissure Bomb's Earthrite effect now summons the Guardian Golem into the field rather than your hand.
Gem Golem ATK increased to 5 from 4.
Pascale now immediately activates her Earthrite effect once as a fanfare, without consuming an Earth Sigil.
Arch Summoner Erasmus's effect now targets the enemy leader if there are no enemy followers

Supergrass
Supergrass

Please respond

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Make Dshift viable
Kill yourself.

girlDog
girlDog

Doesn't use your class kill combos
Do you mean the Azazel+Laura meme combo? The combo that can't be played if they have a single ward on the board? Or do you mean all the Bloody Mary memes that require her to survive on board for a turn or need you to be at 20 defense.
I hope don't mean Sneks because they suck.
Satan is probably the only reliable win condition for cblood and no other craft even considers running him because he's too fucking slow.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

How about we just skip all that and have you sit on my dick instead?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Reminder that Eris is young and cute.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

sword in t2 is fucking disgusting, is there even a reason to play anything else if you get it as a choice

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

You can also laura servant of darkness

TreeEater
TreeEater

Dshift will easily powercreep. And thats buff for dirt is just not enough

DeathDog
DeathDog

Reina needs an EP to give +2 rush to board. You're not getting lethal from hand

w8t4u
w8t4u

Thread is going well enough without you hagposter kys

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I want Eris to liberate me.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Bloody Mary memes
that require her to survive on board for a turn

I.. what? You can fetch/reduce Bloody Mary with Bapho now and play Mary+Bond the following turn. Not to mention that if you're using 3x Mary you can drop one on curve to bait removal for your future plays. You can also wait until T8 to play both together w/o the Baph. And Laura was originally paired with Servant before the Bapho-Aza combo.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Aw shit, it looks like """midrange""" sword, except good.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Anyone who wanna concede a match?
57038

likme
likme

You can fetch/reduce Bloody Mary with Bapho
No

Methnerd
Methnerd

Arch Summoner Erasmus's effect now targets the enemy leader if there are no enemy followers
As someone that plays exlusively rune in ranked, this is the only one of your ideas I agree with.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

my.mixtape.moe/vpdsqf.webm
would of been more impressed if you somehow got walfrid out instead. Luminous + Otohime is a measely 6 damage, something you can basically do already by playing evo alberts or evo alwida's.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

With Avant blader, you should try out some quickbladers/Ta G
I found her reduced cost was good enough to be able to play cheap officers on the follow up.
Also, Walfrid wards on leftover otohime guards is underrated.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

obviously doesn't even play blood
talks about cblood win conditions

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Fanfare: Put a random Bloodcraft follower with at least 5 attack from your deck into your hand.
Enhance (5): Then subtract 3 from its cost.

WebTool
WebTool

He's not me

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Dead game. Dead General.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Reminder to rope the shadowpedos.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

tfw beat a mid shadow cause I ran grave desecration/rebirth and he didn't
Heh

RavySnake
RavySnake

rebirth
Rise of the Dead? Spirit Cycle? There's no card with Rebirth in shadow.

Desecration is actually a pretty good card in the rare scenario that a game goes really long though. It soaks up all those unwanted shadows that you inevitably pile up.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Why are we so dead

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Curse of rebirth.

eGremlin
eGremlin

this picture makes me sad :(

likme
likme

Tog killed the game

hairygrape
hairygrape

She will join mama and papa soon.

Flameblow
Flameblow

TotG literally killed the game and this general.
The thread used to be much more active even at these hours of the day.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

So you are running some sort of zombies turbo? Do you also run Gravewalker, Call and Undead King for never ending zombies apocalypse?

Skullbone
Skullbone

The only ones who find joy in these game are shadowniggers and dragontards
I haven't played for days, I'm only here to shitpost
I'm sick of autolosing to shadow if I don't go first

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

/hsg/ refugees came back to their shit game. Good riddance I'd say.

TreeEater
TreeEater

I'm still having fun with Mammoth Daria.

RavySnake
RavySnake

babbies not happy that their classes are no longer top dogs

Now you know how those two felt before ToG.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I'm not the user with that deck. I just told you the name of the card.

Methshot
Methshot

Its more like everyone abandoned ship because cygames shit the bed with totg

Lunatick
Lunatick

Ha they bricked their board with a 2/2 I got this
Ah!
AHHHHH!
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Israfil is so great. Thick bodies before make them shuck their hard removal or die leaving them to have to roach her and then you've won

Nah. Gravewalker and undead king are dead plays. I do have call of the void though since othrus and catacomb keep the board lurching forward to give me 5+ turns of zombies. If I had death's breath I'd run it with lord of the flies for the meme dream.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Bothe dragon and shadow have been t1 more than once

Its blood and haven that was the real dumpster class

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Now you know how those two felt before ToG.
Not me, I had fun with Shadows back in RoB and even DE, although I'm having more fun now than ever.

Methshot
Methshot

New thread
veekyforums.com/thread/173873007/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/173873007/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/173873007/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/173873007/video-games

Emberburn
Emberburn

veekyforums.com/thread/173873000/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/173873000/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/173873000/video-games
Isaboob

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

HS refugees realized there is no real difference between the 2 games.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Ebin

farquit
farquit

Can Rune even win against Blood even in thread making?

Inmate
Inmate

What the fuck are you talking about?
I was playing Dragon the entirety of RoB and it was fine, it wasn't unplayable at all, I could consistently beat Darias, Alberts and every other top deck.
Dragon didn't need a fucking buff and now it became fucking cancer, I hate what dragon became.
Also the game is fucking shit now with a Haven - Shadow - Dragon rock paper scissor meta. At least more crafts were being played in Rob and games were more varied as a result
Fucking kill yourself Togcuck

Emberfire
Emberfire

How on earth does that card help against mid shadow?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Protip, call making the thread ya dingus.

There kind of was. RoB tore it up the TotG set the shreds on fire

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

"dragon"

MPmaster
MPmaster

Cry some more. At least I wasn't audible about it unlike you whiners.

Methshot
Methshot

I'd consider running more draconic fervors and some Genesis Dragons. That 7/9 face damage has won me a couple of games. Now tell me the source of that image.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I'm sorry for cropping it so that it's unsourcable.

But it is a doujin, most likely vanilla.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

running out of cards
1x draconic fervor
You need 3 draconic fervor.