>Now what? Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are. No, really. Find a corp. You don't want to be that guy.
Past: >March 14: "improved" Probe/Dscan, Fighter, HIC and Rorq changes >Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters >Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, cargo notifications >Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes, nobody likes Reyni (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
What's a good corp for someone looking to pvp and make lots of nullsec/wh isk?
>tfw too autistic for small gangs and just stick with large blobs
Camden Gonzalez
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Alexander Fisher
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Ethan James
I wouldnt recommend wh or null for it. I enjoyed my shor life in TEST during WWB, but comparing it to lowsec its like wastelands. Ive never been in wh so dunno about this one. I would recommend Factional Warfare for nice ISK and cheap pvp. But if you want to be in blob I can't really point you in any direction.
Jonathan Reed
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Hunter Ortiz
I think I'll go live in low and finance it with incursions, so I don't have to encounter blobs so much
Thomas Myers
Post your favorite looking ship
Austin Harris
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Blake Nguyen
TEST, karmafleet, Horde, Brave. They're basically interchangeable for the line member.
Josiah Brooks
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Christian Reyes
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Michael Cook
kek
Ryan Ward
looks like a dog dick
Luis Miller
>looks like a dog dick >eog
Gavin Turner
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Jordan Mitchell
but it's nothing like a dog dick have you even seen a dog dick before retard i bet you havent
Jason Collins
Im pretty sure he has no contact with his father so no.
Kevin Bailey
well i've seen several and i can tell you unless your dog has severe autism thats not how its dick should look
Luis Miller
New space ship leaks
Colton Thompson
looks like fresh dog poo not a dog penis
Camden Perry
>All these dog dick experts on eog
Adam Miller
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Nathan Sanchez
Sorry this answer is so late. I use dual monitors and I use virtual desktops and hotkeys to switch between them. I manually control everything and don't use any sort of external programs to modify window size or layout or anything.
Nicholas James
incursions are shit in low and few people actually do them
Grayson Jones
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Brandon Young
>as usuap, CCP doesn't understand the reason rapid lights are so good and thinks changing the reload will consitute a good "nerf" Sasuga
Luis Stewart
I don't know why they're so against the idea of deleting them
Leo Sanders
they're nerfing the range as well.
Tyler Fisher
the reload speed isn't really what they're looking for.
First they're going to neuter every missile ship so theres no more range bonuses to light missiles. This will stop them from being 60km rape machines and reduce them to their max skilled 35km. Second the HML buff isn't that much at all and its gonna be a big woopty do. Either way RLML's won't be an automatic "I win" anymore purely because the range is so heavily reduced
Lincoln Wright
because they've never outright deleted ANYTHING
Sebastian Nguyen
this is one of those times when they should. there is no way for a cruiser weapon with frigate application to be balanced. same for rapid heavies
Jason Diaz
Theres nothing wrong with rapid heavies because heavies on their own apply like ass to cruisers anyway
Elijah Clark
no. battleship should have battleship application, it doesn't matter whether you think heavies are fine or not
if a ship the same size as yours has zero hope ever of mitigating your damage, shit is broken
Henry Adams
>battleship should have battleship application and no one uses torps because they apply like absolute ass to literally everything thats not a battleship.
>it doesn't matter if you think heavies are fine or not it doesn't matter if you think battleships should have battleship application or not.
>you can't mitigate Heavy Missile dps
dude a slowboating omen mitigates some 50% of heavy missile damage.
Aiden Perry
he said ships the same size as yours have zero hope of mitigating, Omen is not a battleship
James Thomas
>let's kill battleships even more
Alexander Garcia
Heavy missiles on a caracal will lose 50% of their damage to a slowboating omen.
Battleships almost never square off 1v1 where one guy is using rapid heavies. Torpedo launchers at that level will do way more damage than rapid heavies in every case.
Adam Martinez
>and no one uses torps because they apply like absolute ass to literally everything thats not a battleship
actually it's because they're impossible to fit and have less range than battleship blasters
>it doesn't matter if you think battleships should have battleship application or not.
ok, let's just forget about damage application and mitigation, fuck those game mechanics right, they're too complicated and result in too much fun and mixed fleet comps
>dude a slowboating omen mitigates some 50% of heavy missile damage.
I don't care about how balanced heavy missiles are, it can never be a justification for a battleship having cruise application
Jaxon Brooks
Industry teams.
Ryder Butler
>actually it's because they're impossible to fit No its also because they apply like ass
Enjoy trying to get torpedos to work on anything thats not a battleship or bigger they apply like ass and apply way worse than cruise missiles. Torps only apply great when you use them with stealth bombers because stealth bombers get 50% to explosion radius.
>ok, let's just forget about damage application and mitigation, fuck those game mechanics right, they're too complicated and result in too much fun and mixed fleet comps I like it how when you came up with "it doesn't matter what you think" and I counter with "it doesn't matter what you think too" you default to this estranged reply about complexity.
>I don't care how bad heavies are, it can never justify a battleship having them yea it does. They apply like shit, they do barely half their paper dps, hell many cruisers can outright speed tank them purely because they apply like such shit. Rapid heavies work fine for battleships because their application isn't oppressive to cruisers like RLML's are to frigates
Liam Adams
>they apply like ass
they're impossible to fit. try it, you can't. you take your rapid heavy meme fit you got off reddit, and try to fit torps. you'll be like 50% over on powergrid and cpu but also because rapid heavies make them pointless because they have like +1000% application and break the game
>Enjoy trying to get torpedos to work
I've used them successfully in solo and small gang. they aren't very good. you'd have to be a huge retard to think that this has any bearing on rapid lights/heavies not being broken though, I'll be the first to tell you torps need changes
>you default to this estranged reply
because it's going to be hard to explain this to you if you don't see any point in not having all ships applying full dps to everything, it's like you don't even play the game or are a retarded blobfag
>yea it does
hml isn't rhml. I don't care if you think your caracal should do more dps to an omen, it's a separate discussion, a raven is not a caracal
Cameron Thompson
>but also because rapid heavies make them pointless because they have like +1000% application and break the game >+1000% you just pull numbers out your ass?
Blake Thompson
You can fit torps ez, they are just shit.
Samuel Jackson
I did guess yes. you can look the numbers up and tell me how wrong I am if you like
it's both, and as I've said many times now that doesn't make cruiser application on a battleship ok
Charles Ross
>because it's going to be hard to explain this to you lol nigga what the fuck is there to explain? you think RHML's are as oppressive to cruisers when cruisers can flat out negate 50% the damage by just SLOWBOATING. Try slowboating in a frig and see how much damage you negate from RLML's
RHML's are shit, they apply like ass, they do ass damage because of it.
>RHML isn't HML yea they are, heavies from a RHML will still lose some 50% the dps regardless. The launcher doesn't magically make the missile apply perfectly to a cruiser like a light missile does to a frig
Matthew Morgan
>I did guess yes. you can look the numbers up and tell me how wrong I am if you like
A RHML raven gets 330dps with caldari navy scourge
against an omen with an afterburner they do a mere 98.3 dps
but tell me how the RHML menace is overpowered
Ryan Howard
Hahaha what the fuck thats 71% damage lost
Nolan Russell
>yea they are
no, they aren't. a battleship should be doing less % of its dps to a cruiser than a cruiser should. a cruiser should have more damage mitigation opportunities vs a battleship than another cruiser. when you just have shit with retardedly powerful application for no good reason, it just plebs up the game and removes skill and playstyles, fags the game up with muh ehp n+1 garbage
Lincoln Brown
you're stupid as fuck see 71% damage mitigated with an afterburner you stupid fuck
Hudson James
>when you just have shit with retardedly powerful application for no good reason >RHML you can't be serious, you can't be this retarded. This has to be bait.
>a cruiser should have more damage mitigation opportunities fit an afterburner.
Wyatt Brown
>but tell me how the RHML menace is overpowered
because a torp's stats are 106.5m/s exp velocity, 337.5m explosion radius, and 5 drf. a heavy missile's stats are 121.5m/s explosion velocity, 105m explosion radius and 3.2 drf. one of these is appropriate for a battleship, while the other isn't
honestly just kill yourselves. how many different ways can I phrase the same thing? a battleship should have less damage application than a cruiser. if you have a bonused battleship weapon with cruiser application, then the game is broken
you can reply again telling me that heavy missiles are shit or torps are shit, I never said they aren't, it's not relevant. kys
Tyler Perry
>ways can I phrase the same thing? You can just admit you're wrong
theres nothing wrong with RHML's especially when you think they have "retardedly powerful application"
Henry Young
>waste half of magazine to kill a cruiser >omg so broken
Connor Reyes
actually at that damage you'd have to waste like 2.5 magazines to kill an AB cruiser
Liam Morris
Well you should be fitting some tackle if you want into battleship pvp.
Charles Butler
>a battleship should have less damage application than a cruiser. No one cares what you think
Christopher Cook
to steelman his argument, to get similar anti-frigate application with non-missiles, you'd need to fit small weapons on your cruiser
Anthony Thompson
why don't you like me user?
Ayden Diaz
a tackle-less battleship shouldn't even necessarily be able to kill a cruiser retard. this is the rapid cancer playstyle - "how many kills am I entitled to before I reload and die?". delete that shit and learn what a web is, or perhaps ezmode grapplers, you don't even need to try with these
I'm correct though
kill yourself
Colton Gonzalez
>how many kills am I entitled to before I reload and die You are fucking retarded. You HAVE to use rapid heavies because torps only work on the typhoon and cruises are a joke. Tackle or not.
Robert Perry
>I'm correct though you're not correct in any way just kys you autistic fuck
Gabriel Moore
you're fucking retarded if you think I've not said multiple times that torps are bad
and cruises are fine, kill yourself
your autistic and retarded, stop killing the game by defending rapid memes
Jeremiah Turner
>and cruises are fine lol
Juan Jones
kill yourself or explain the issues you're having with cruises
Christopher Walker
Post your lossmail of this oppressive cruiser genocider battleship you seem to be bullshitting about
Bentley Watson
post your lossmail of you getting brain damage aspie
Adam Wood
oneiros
Jaxon Clark
too slow, ugly hull, forced into 2L2M reps to be useful, making it 2/3 of a guardian with less tank.
Jackson Sanders
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Kevin Sanders
>They're basically interchangeable for the line member.
>BRAVE >get farmed by everyone, 5000 players living in a pipe system
>TEST >get farmed by Goons, 3 kinds of Russians, PL, NC, WHfags
>Horde >don't get farmed because PL has your back
>Karmafleet >farm Co2 and TEST, corp AND alliance SRP, sometimes gets farmed by PL but it's rare compared to TEST, part of the richest and best organized alliance in EVE
Sebastian Thompson
>>Horde >>don't get farmed because PL has your back Hahaha no. Have you seen their ratting system?
Oliver Davis
>don't get farmed because PL has your back PL is like a an uncle that shows you love by fisting ur butthole
Thomas Young
>Goons
Hudson Diaz
>don't get farmed because PL has your back kek
Noah Johnson
t. horde member
Eli Gray
From the PoV of someone that kills all 4 regularly. I would say TEST and Horde are the best all around for fun. TEST actually creates content and forms fleets, but they get poked by everyone all the time. Horde gets farmed but reacts to farms with violent autistic spasms of fleets and get kills their attackers often, and they have PL to kill anyone that drops big ships on them or on their structures but these never happen.
Brave is absolute shit tier now, everyone kills them, they don't kill shit outside of a small inner circle.
Karma will open your gates to *better* corps and make you tons of money but they are shit at content, they are used as a human shield and they don't really create content worth mentioning.
Keep in mind that the way this corps and EVE function, if you are a silent no mic lone wolf faggot you are doomed to a life of being a literally who without friends, forever poor and without content. So fixing that is 10 times more important than choosing a good corp.
Adrian Collins
test doesnt get farmed much, esoteria is too out of the way
Charles Lopez
>new applicant >check employment history >karmafleet >mfw
Eli Brown
>Karma will open your gates to *better* corps and make you tons of money but they are shit at content I agree with this.
Christian Torres
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Anthony Taylor
>test doesnt get farmed much, esoteria is too out of the way
Cooper Harris
>last thread: cloaky camping >this thread: RHML and Karmafleet shilling
Fucking business as usual I guess. Why have we been invaded by shitters over the last year?
Parker James
>Horde kills their attackers often
Uh, the cap fleet says otherwise.
>Brave is shit
Just started flying with them desu, the WH corp id good at least. Can't say for the rest, but I guess the friendly attitude brings a different crowd to the aggressive autism of Horde and Karmafleet
>Karmafleet opens gates to better
Literally what? Every Goon I talk to hates Karmafleet more than anyone else because they are shit, and everyone else hates Karmafleet because they are Goons.
The best newbie corp is whatever works for you, there is no measure that is not subjective. I enjoyed Horde, but some Brave pilots fucking hate them with a passion because the trolling made them mad.
Andrew Allen
I know you haven't 90% of every fleet that comes here gets blobbed to death >inb4 posting an exception and trying to pass it off as rule
Benjamin Hernandez
BRAVE's main problem is that their space is shit. If they had a nice pocket somewhere they would still get farmed but at least their members could make Isk. Are they even allowed to do exploration outside their space?
Henry Nelson
If you think you can live in any null corp and do PVE and do not get farmed then you're a lying fuck.
David Cook
>live in null >never lost a ratting ship
James Foster
>live in null >never lost a ratting ship because I run incursions in high sec on an alt