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/sthg/ #732 - Greenish Hill Academy Edition
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>Green Hill Zone's >Some of them aren't even called Green Hill Zone Evening, reddit.
Blake Diaz
>You notice Green Hill Zone gets worse and worse in every game after 1 sans Generations.
Gabriel Myers
Wow, the Green Hill Zone from Forces looks like shit compared to the one from Generations-- judging from comparing screenshots, anyways.
James Howard
Reminder that there is something coming from Sega Japan about Sonic Forces within the next 14 hours.
Jordan Phillips
Shit girl with a man's body.
Charles Barnes
That's why I let them slide in and called the edition "greenish hill zones" , cause I am a needy goat and want my favorite levels to.
And I would have gotten away with it to if it weren't for you meddling anons.
Elijah Bennett
Fine, have this one instead. >tfw I clearly and knowingly have an unhealthy attachment to a fucking cartoon, mutant, 8 year old fox.
John Stewart
If you're gonna put in Splash Hill, why stop there? Where's Seaside Hill, Windy Hill, Sky Road and Sunset Hill? Also, you forgot Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax's stage.
Charles Roberts
I'm in full defeatist mode and think it'll be insignificant and change nothing.
Anthony Wood
>Greenish Hill Academy
Fuck. You. OP. Thanks for reminding me of that fanfic.
Brayden Gutierrez
Isn't it the SJW drama Sonic fanfic?
Ian Brooks
> mfw playing Sonic Heroes for the first time
Jaxson Price
For some reason I completely forgot about those ones while I hurried this edited compile.
I have failed as a OP.
Jeremiah Taylor
>tfw absolutely fine with green hill trope
Jaxon Stewart
They are gonna annouce that all the Classic stages are going to be rehashes, but with slight differences in the background. Since we got Green Hill but will Sand instead of water, we're probably going to get something like Mystic Cave, but it's not in a cave. Or Sky Chase Zone but the Clouds are grey and heavier, leading to occasional drizzles.
Juan Johnson
Better than nothing. At the very least, they'll just give a recap of everything in the direct. It's probably not worth getting excited about, but definitely worth at least a peek.
Jason Myers
>Read about 41-42 chapters of it because of those threads talking how off-the-wall it gets. >I'm slowing losing my sanity because of it. >But I continue to read.
This general is a bad influence.
Anthony Martin
Having a OC generated 3rd character in Sonic Forces makes total sense from a business standpoint.
When Sonic Adventure 2 was released, fan characters rose to an all time high, thanks to the introduction of Shadow, and the game's darker, more serious storyline. SA2's lifetime sales are over 3 million. Most of those sales are to children and teens, who found and fell in love with the Sonic fan community. And what's the first thing you do to become a part of that community? You create your own Sonic fan character.
This has become something that is passed down, throughout these years, to each generation of children. Even now, there are kids creating and posting pictures of their Sonic fan characters, while looking up to old, popular fan characters of the past. It's basically a tradition at this point.
16 years later, those kids who were there for the peak of all this are now adults, with their own disposable income. So how do you attract those potentially millions of sales back, and get a whole new generation interested at the same time? You give them the chance to finally make their dream come true:
Their very own fan character helping Sonic save the world from Eggman's dark dystopia in a CANNON Sega game.
It's genius.
Hudson Lewis
Oh yeah? From whom specifically? If it's Iizuka then I don't want to hear it. That plumber-obsessed cretin is probably the one who put that boost pad in front of that loop.
Matthew Long
Watch as it's going to be fucking nothing.
Landon Smith
gotta let that boost pad go desu
Sebastian Thompson
Reading that in Patrick's voice killed me
Jonathan Mitchell
I thought about the name first without the fanfic, then remembered it was from a fanfic, then immediately put it in as the edition for keks, aint I a stinker?
Yeah I know, wasn't this game developed for 4 years now? I would have thought their first levels would be top notch.
I really could have used these thoughts last thread I made, really nice scenarios you got there.
Daniel Reed
Now do it with Squidward voice, and add at the end "Nya ka ka ka ka"
Cooper Gutierrez
This general is not responsible for your illusion of sanity, but rather, for dispelling it. You're welcome.
Jacob Kelly
>hide the pickle What did he mean by this?
Liam Edwards
ALL WITHIN THE SPEED OF A LIGHT THAT ONE WILL FIGHT TO COMMAND
James Sanchez
No. Fuck you. There's no reason for it. Boostpads are the thing killing Sonic. They are the reason slope physics and momentum no longer exist. They are a scourge upon the franchise and they need to be wiped out with extreme prejudice.
John Collins
DON'T STAND DOWN, BREAK THROUGH
Robert Fisher
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Charles Cook
>They are a scourge The hedgehog?
Ayden Johnson
They've been "killing Sonic" since 1998. The Dash Panels and Speed Boosters don't really matter all that much.
Juan Reed
That was my reaction to playing Werehog stages for the first time.
Henry Torres
If they're going to add an OC creator in Forces it better be at least decent.
I don't want to just make red and green Sonics, let me choose races as well. I want something along the lines of the Lego Games or Xenoverse at the very least.
Justin Sullivan
Kek
Gabriel Moore
>No. Fuck you. R-rude!
Easton Rivera
A complete non-issue. It helps guide the player which can help straighten out players in 3D. And while it's silly and relatively pointless in 2D, it doesn't harm anything.
Landon Gonzalez
>They've been "killing Sonic" since 1998. Exactly.
Nolan Garcia
>They are the reason slope physics and momentum no longer exist. Other way around mate.
John Sanders
I miss when Salt was around, making casually saucy stuff.
Jack Rivera
How don't they harm anything? They hand speed to the player on a silver platter, perpetuating the "Hold right to win" mantra that's become so popular with the "Arin Hansons" of the world. Thank god for Mania.
While, yes, players need to be directed while running around in a 3D space, it should not be done with Boost Pads. It should be done with actual level design like, say, a golden collectible of some kind? It's one thing to tell the player where to go. It's another thing to MAKE them go.
Oh, my mistake.
They are the reason momentum and slope physics no longer exist.
Better?
Chase Russell
correction: 1992. Lest we forget.
Isaiah Turner
Correction: Sonic was dead on arrival.
Owen Edwards
Correction: Sonic was dead the moment he was even drawn.
Eli Ortiz
Correction: Sonic was never alive. He is a cartoon character.
Chase Jones
>It helps guide the player which can help straighten out players in 3D. If you can't do that with actual level design then fire everyone responsible and hire people who aren't incompetent.
Brandon Edwards
>They hand speed to the player on a silver platter No worse than the spindash.
Eli James
RIP Sonic 1991-1992
Parker Scott
>Momentum and slope physics no longer existing are the reason boost pads are so over used. Fixed that for you user. It's an honest mistake, so I don't blame you for it.
Xavier Diaz
In Classic Sonic's case they have the boost pads to make Sonic go fast because Sonic Team can't be assed to make momentum-based physics well. Remember how fucking DIMPS got more accurate Classic physics in Generations 3DS?
I bet even the loops are still scripted like they were on the normal Generations.
>No one's ever said this. No shit going forward in a Sonic stage helps you beat the stage. The meme was "boost to win," stupid. You've clearly never been on /v/ Sonic threads (not that you should ever want to be on them, the only time they're not shitty is by either miracle or if it's storytime threads with comic issues).
There's always, ALWAYS that guy that will proclaim to his very last breath as if he only exists for this purpose that Sonic is "hold right to win". It's not even bait usually, it either descends into insults or they genuinely go out of their way to provide arguments and counter-arguments about every single potential thing they can to bitch about Sonic being too easy and baby's first platformer.
Elijah Brown
If this is what ends up happening, I might excuse the classic Sonic gameplay.
Better game then Sonic Forces/Sonic Mania will ever be. Sonic should have a Metroidvania esque Adventure game someday. Probably never @ this rate
Eli Mitchell
>Sonic being too easy and baby's first platformer. That's Kirby, and Kirby is a good series, if not Nintendo's best series.
Christopher Long
>Giving an honest to god fuck what /v/ thinks about Sonic >Ever
There's the problem, user.
You posted this last thread. No one cares.
Isaiah Nguyen
>Zelda pic >Metroidvania I don't know which is worse.
Henry Evans
It's ironic since the video is mocking valid complaints.
Mason Bell
>There's the problem, user. It's not so much that I care as it is that I come across this shit and see just how vehemently people hate Sonic that they create complex debates and hop through elaborate mental gymnastics just to complain about something others like. Not to mention how many people get hooked into these debates.
Then again, it's /v/ so I guess that's not exclusive to Sonic.
Jayden Ramirez
At least the Spin Dash is something that I consciously do of my own accord. This is a video game. Even if you assert that the Spin Dash gives the player speed, at least I have to press a button to do it.
Same goes for Boost. People complain that the Boost is the thing killing Sonic for giving you instant speed, but at least I'm pressing a button on purpose to do it. Boost Pads can't even boast that much.
Also, sorry. Didn't mean it.
Landon Perez
>trying to disprove legitimate complaints by reciting them with a silly voice without bring any counterpoints to the table
This is the worst thing ever actually
Hudson Morales
The best thing about Boom Sonic not being in Forces is, the Boom franchise will die off and not sully the main series.
Lincoln Gray
>tfw it's back Suffering.
Alexander Hall
Worst I've seen all day, at the very least.
Owen Lee
>still no Sonic/Amy NWF pic Drawfags pls
Brayden Green
The only thing Boom related that should stick around is Sticks.
Camden James
>no avians or reptiles anywhere on the list
cmon son
David Carter
This legit made me feel anger. Fuck.
Kevin Barnes
>At least the Spin Dash is something that I consciously do of my own accord >b-but So you're defending what's essentially the same thing but can be abused rather than being stationary.
Ryan Morales
Can we get this with Bump and user?
But I did list birds. You're right about reptiles though, given how we have Vector and Espio. And how could I forget deer.
Michael Johnson
How? No one was expecting Forces to be "Sonic's triumphant return".
Sonic Cycle has only applied to Unleashed and maybe 4, otherwise it's still the same tired bullshit.
Leo Brooks
>Can we get this with Bump and user? >implying user would turn down bump advances
Connor Green
Y-yeah, no one
Christian Brooks
Not dunkey
Parker Gray
So it's actually this one instead then.
William Martinez
I SWEAR i was gonna say cervids next. Fuck man, you're a mind reader.
Though aquatic animals would be good too, like that one bottlenose dolphin that was floating around the past few threads
Kevin Robinson
Someone really needs to add "Denying the Sonic Cycle" as part of the cycle.
Sebastian Collins
>Complaining about shoe buckles
William Russell
Explain to me how Colors, Generations and Mania fit into your faggoty 2008 meme, then.
Christopher Brown
And now people are bitching about how only Sonic is playable, and potentially one new buddy.
Ryan James
This one seems more likely, honestly. Boost pad about as bullshit of a complaint now as shoe buckles.
Connor Evans
>green eyes >blue arms same fucking principle.
Adam Lopez
Not all true. People was expecting Forces & Mania to bring Sonic back from the shit ROL & mediocre LW. So far, it looks promising, but it's gonna be an all-time great Sonic game. At least based on what we've seen, because who knows? The final product could be amazing.
Dylan Flores
>implying your inplications
John Hughes
Not him, but it was broken during colors. Hence user saying the Cycle is back.
Jaxon Rivera
The Spin Dash is different because of the simple fact that, when the initial burst of speed is done, the player is in ball-form. This means that Sonic's momentum is entirely dependent on the terrain for the few seconds after the Spin Dash is complete. What's more, you must stop in order to perform the move, thus there is a give and take when it comes to performing the move. This is also why the Super Peelout is, at least, somewhat forgivable.
With a Boost Pad, it gives you instant speed regardless of your state. You hit the Boost Pad while running and you can keep running afterwards. This is a case where there is absolutely no give and take. You enter it with either a little speed, or no speed at all and you exit it with a static, defined amount of speed.
This is the difference between the Spin Dash and a Boost Pad.