Why shouldn't people be required to pass an exam or have some form of licensing in order to have kids?
I mean everyone has to have a license to drive a car, isn't it more dangerous to allow people to have children if they have the ability to ruin the kids lives?
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>Why shouldn't people be required to pass an exam or have some form of licensing in order to have kids?
Because the United Nations made right to reproduction and female rights basic human rights.
This has nothing to do with female rights, or male rights - who is there to protect the rights of the child? If some hillbilly failures decide to have kids, then the kid won't exactly have a great life.
A NOBLE ETHOS MAKES AN OPTIMAL PARENT; ETHOS IS NOT MEASURED WITH TESTS.
THE STATE CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT CONCERN ITSELF WITH MICROMANAGING TRIVIAL ASPECTS OF THE CITIZENS' LIVES, BUT RATHER, IT SHOULD CONCERN ITSELF WITH ESTABLISHING AND DIRECTING THE GREATER GENERAL CURRENTS THAT INFORM THOSE TRIVIAL ASPECTS.
INSTEAD OF EVALUATING EACH INDIVIDUAL COUPLE OF POTENTIAL PARENTS, THE STATE SHOULD PRECLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF INAPT COUPLES ENGENDERING, OR ADOPTING, CHILDREN VIA LAW, WHILST ALSO OFFERING SUBSIDIES TO APT COUPLES IF THEY ENGENDER, OR ADOPT, A CHILD.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IN ADDITION TO POLICIES REGARDING GENETIC HEALTH.
Because a nation needs low-tier people to do the low-tier jobs. You can't have a nation consisting solely of doctors, engineers and whatnot.
Because anyone who had the balls to implement the license would be publicly lynched by the sjw for being guilty of eugenics and crimes against humanity.
>by the sjw
I think the strongest opposition would come from Christians, famalam.
Impossible to police also anyone who even mentioned it would be assassinated by a tidal wave of perfectly healthy sjws.
>sjw
have I taken a time machine back to 2013?
>Impossible to police
Tell that to China
It would be better if the Government simply killed those people instead of indirectly doing it.
>Nobody in China has illegal children
AHAHAHAHAHA, you are a fucking moron.
>Nobody in China has illegal children
Most people don't. The law and police act as a deterrent, it doesn't matter if a few people fall through the cracks.
>The law and police act as a deterrent, it doesn't matter if a few people fall through the cracks
So it is impossible to police.
>Why shouldn't people be required to pass an exam or have some form of licensing in order to have kids?
People are upset about the fact they might need to show an ID to vote and you think they'll be okay with the idea that they need to pass an exam to have kids?
You're a special kind of stupid aren't you? So long as at least 80% of the population follows the law, who cares about the rest.
>So long as at least 80% of the population follows the law, who cares about the rest.
This is not how law enforcement works. How old are you?
I asked this as a kid
So my teacher put me in detention
I can see how it could go horribly wrong though
>So long as at least 80% of the population follows the law, who cares about the rest.
If 20% of the population is routinely breaking a law without getting caught then it might as well not even be a law at that point.
That IS how law enforcement works.
>If some people murder, banning murder is pointless
Great post
Because albinos would rig it to where only they could have children.
>People are upset about the fact they might need to show an ID to vote
A little off-topic, but how is that even an issue in the US? What's stopping some guy from going to 10 different voting stations and presenting himself as random people and voting 10 times?
Because then only the rich and famous would have the right to reproduce (even if they are retarded whores like paris hilton, lindsey lohan) then we would face a civil war which would leavy humanity in a bad shape imo
The one child policy was based on communist pseudoscience and was a gigantic hassle in the lives of the working Chinese poor, since anyone wealthy enough could buy their way out of having to obey it and in the end all China has to show for it is a fucked up generation where girls were raised in horrifically understaffed and underfunded orphanages and there are 2 million more men than women who will probably never start a family or have a chance at decent employment. And now their once explosive growth has stalled and their entire economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.
I have a female cousin who was adopted from a Chinese orphanage and she has a small tattoo of a tea leaf on her hip that mothers gave their babies to let them know that the adoption was against their wishes and was forced upon them.
All it does is cause problems for societies and making there be a "parenting license" would turn into a massive headache for working people, while becoming a nightmare for poor people as they have their children confiscated from them and placed into state orphanages where the living conditions are even shittier than the conditions they came from, making it in actual terms a complete fucking waste of everyone's time and money
Sort of related to OP's question, I have thought of a solution which requires a global, totalitarian state to be workable.
At birth, everyone is issued 1 (one) birth voucher. This is given to all people, regardless of gender, social standing etc.
These birth vouchers are available for sale on the open market, and can be sold for whatever the market will bear. Upon selling a birth voucher, state-provided sterilization prevents "accidental" additional births.
Couples would typically have 2 children, either adopted or via vagina.
If a child dies before reproducing, the parents retroactively inherent a new certificate for a child, which they may either sell or make their own second attempt.
Statism aside, would this draconian measure actually solve the world's problems?
Why could everyone not labour/study when young, and graduate to higher professions when older?
Paramedic here. Youre all fucking retarded. It shouldnt be hurr durr u need atleast 150 iq to reproduce. It should be you are able to finance your child and not live in a complete shithole. You should not have mental issues such as prone to violence and anger issues. And most importantly your reproduction system should be healthy so you dont give birth to children with cancer downs autism Blood defects and alot of other fucked up shit. No sane person who is not ignorant on the conditions of which some children are brought up can say that everyone should be able to reproduce. No sane person can say that people should be allowed to have children when they will have guaranteed birth defects. Ive seen hundreds of them and that shit aint pretty
So, a bit like Incaian society was organized, with specific jobs for each age?
20% of 1.36 billion is 272 MILLION LAWBREAKERS
for comparison, current US population is 318 million
No, children would be aborted and murdered until desired offspring have been attained.
how are you gonna enforce it? If they dont, send the parents to jail so they can't raise their kid
Reminder that not existing isnt preferable to having a shit family (and anyway if the kid decides it is, suicide still exists, but at least it's his choice rather than one guy deciding for him that not existing is better than having shit parents)
Because the Nazis lost.
Any idea that's in any way related to the Nazis is demonized.
black card, Lister, black card
What a guy
I can pass the test and be a shitty absent father.
Shit can change suddenly in life.
>Reminder that not existing isnt preferable to having a shit family
Reminder to think before you speak.
He's right though
Family aint everything, you can be happy without having grew up in one
How would you enforce it?
Every time you think about "why don't they outlaw X or make it so that Y can't happen except for Z circumstances?" ask that question first. It'll save you some time
Because a shrinking population causes rather dramatic problems for the next generation.
When your aging/retired/senile/infirmed population outnumbers your younger worker generation, you get into all sorts of fucked. Especially since very little of elderly care can actually be automated.
And... At risk of sounding /pol/ - the most obvious method to compensate, is to import immigrants, who often come from countries that are hostile to your culture. Even if they don't succeed in subverting the ideals your civilization is based upon, they are at least going to cause mass social upheaval and resentment as they enter the workforce, or worse, become an additional burden on the already overburdened society.
And in the end, the only way you can ensure your ideals are passed on into prosterity, is through your children. Take away the concept of the after-life, and that's as close to immortality as you can hope to get.
Because liberty you fucking bootlicker