/tosg/ - Tree of Savior General

>When you complete all the requirements/quest will it just become an option in your Advancements when you can class change?
Exactly. You can do the prequest even before you're able to change classes.

ded pyro = ded game

I'm bothered this also means no more kaloo hammer and audra type weapons.

did you get to lvl15 on your class rank yet?

Wiz3 Ele2

Can I skip Elementalist 3
If I take it, is it a good idea to take Alchemist at the end

There is no reason to go Ele and not take Ele3

>alchs can't pretend to be useful just because they have pyro linker

Eh heh heh heh

It's never a good idea to take alchemist on a serious character.

I did. The quest fucked itself somehow, but i found it.

>all wiz shit getting nerfed mega hard
>meanwhile corsair kiel hauling has 1500% x 2 scaling

fucking epic m8 IMC
enjoy your corsair 2 v 2 meta

Is Divine Stigma getting any better with the changes since buffs are also getting adjusted? Did they say anything about recalculated buff effects?

You do realize this is all just on a 'test' server, right? They are testing.
I am willing to bet these changes don't make it into the final version of the patch.

fuck you nigger, just roll a fucking pvp meme if u wanna pvp as a wiz and psykokino that shit nigger

Kinos damage was gutted too
There is nothing in the wizard tree to deal damage anymore save for Hail

u never know

>implying you can even land iron hook in PvP with the attribute disabled

I can just fine actually
Try playing mousemode

Almost everything got nerfed.

Cleric basically has no way of dealing damage now.
Archer damage went from being second best to being kind of eh.
Swordsmen still don't deal any real damage.

Just wait until they start working on buffs and debuffs. Then you'll see some shit.

there's a hitbox bug on attributes-less hook,

Will we ever see Corsair3>Fencer3 be real and viable?

>will we ever see r10
probably not

Ffs all damage and mob hp went down globally and FC is like 4K modifier total.

> nerfing almost all swordsman classes
> buffing the fuck out of rank 8 ones because they were shit to begin with

What did IMC mean by this?
Fuck you IMC, Memebarian gets all this free crit buff shit and decide to nerf the fuck out of Highlander, are you fucking serious, there has to be someone on the dev team with a serious Highlander hateboner.

Yes I fucking mad.

Good, they were shit.
Look at Karacha set, Rouge's backstab is balanced according to that.

One of this game's biggest problems is being full of shitty items with no reason to use them. Having less stuff that actually has effects on it is not good.

Here's the wizard pvp real meta boys

tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#213444bbb.14253551.15213445.1f2f3143516575.1e3f4851617185

I would drop ele 3 for sage

otherwise it's just one canon/snipe shot. hail 10 and meteor 5 is fine

>elementalist cast time
>pvp

So did they ever fix performance issues?

Why wouldn't you take stone curse for pvp?

Because I'd want to take a good class instead.

oh I meant

>balancing classes around items

range sucks and high cooldown, also not worth much unless you put a few points in

>girl character
>extreme meta super funcional well geared class
>boy character
>meme shit like QS 3, monk, rodelero

why I do this

Your mistake is making boy characters at all.

You know it's not as fun playing as them.

gross, stop being gay user.

Here's a Google sheet with the skill factor changes. Enjoy guys.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hkDYLih9nbsmH4Mfmv46jVxnVQYRQUiyBjAl3pbBgA/edit#gid=0

link is broken

So what are you supposed to play if you don't want to get shafted by these changes?

Another game

Seriously guys they are nerfing the damage, yes, but they are also bringing down mobs with us.

Shut the fuck up. You don't see me crying that my Deed's is insanely nerfed every thread do you? Goddamn. I went from 150% physical increase to a mere 33% more damage. That's an INSANE nerf, but I'll live.

Unironically Chaplain, they don't seem to want to touch elemental attack.

SADHU!

Pyromancer:
Fire Ball:
- This skill now hits 1 time, regardless of skill level.
- The size of the fireball is increased by 30%.
>- (Add) Other players will not be able to hit the fireball.
- (Add) The hitbox has been increased by 25%.

PYROS ARE SAVED!

pastebin.com/XnzBaQTx

>1 time
>1 fucking time
AHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

In what world does this seem okay?

youtube.com/watch?v=zns0YhiAVQY
More like fireshit lmao

Flare is better than Fireball now.

Like unironically it's better.

People are just memeing, it's impossible to know how most of this number affect builds and whatnot.

I'm just glad that Transcendence is getting toned down a fuckload, it isn't being removed which is a shame but beggars cannot be choosers. I'm fucking glad for any change that comes with it, most cancerous thing I've seen in any game.

>hits only one time
This begs the question, why even make it a deploy with hitbox? It will be harder than Exorcism to work around. And fireball is clunkiest shit I've seen skidding to incorrect positions or just taking the damage and standing still.

I'd rather they made it a different targetting. Maybe the idea is to make it good for Sages still?

That's... underwhelming if considered old Fireball 16 hits and agny. Somewhat feels like a heavy handed nerf, it definitely needed some toning but right now I can only think of this as a knee jerk reaction to it being too strong before. Maybe it can be better with sage going a fuckload of fireballs and luring something for huge burst but even them.

I wonder if you can still PP it?

good, at least some of you autists will roll real classes from now on and not the cheesy ez shit to carry your noob ass through solmiki

>yfw a madman launches a tos private server of the rank 7 after this "renewal" sinks iTOS forever

youtube.com/watch?v=V8OQN2ak8tQ

It's the same fireball from the beta.

>That's... underwhelming if considered old Fireball 16 hits and agny
That's underwhelming even considering fireball level 5 without agny,

this

how the fuck do they expect me to play this game when i cant faceroll it with my pyro with lv8 transc weapon? ridiculous, i'm fucking out

>fireball
>is not a missile spell that bursts when the mob is hit and then DOT for 10 hits

This fucking class reset event have to be fast to do because so far i have 7 characters to full reset and the ride isn't ending

Same but I have no fucking idea what to reset to.
Everything seems shit.

>want to make a fresh new character
>can't decide
>after all dailies just stare at the creation screen
>thinking of what to make
>don't want to make an archer because don't like the nature of it
>clerics are insanely boring to level early regardless of what spec
>swords are too much effort for little gains and boring early
>sit there for 15 minutes
>go to neet, make a build
>go back on it as I don't know if I want this
>make another spec
>no, this might not be fun without insane gear
>ok I'll make my very first diev
>oh wait need an insane wand to make this viable
>....
>hit exit
>go play another game

>lv 8 trans weapon
>free reset

you just switch to whatever new meme they give to wizards, retard

True, can't get any worse.

I'll just reset for what seems fun, you can wait a month or two when the new meta is found.

>swords
>boring early
Someone hasn't played a pelt into barbarian

>fireball
>not a pea-sized bead that streaks from your extended pointing finger to the targeted area to blossom into a fireball that deals 10d6 damage to all creatures and objects in the area of effect

Don't forget
>elememes are the the only viable source of damage again

>with their 5 second frost cloud
At least their other skills are relevant now. They still need to work those cooldowns, though, they're terrible.

What's the superior reset voucher do? Resets all char dungeon runs or just resets saalus too?

No, i am going to copy pazte whatever gooks shit out because i can't miss this event and wo 't reroll my whole team
Seriously, IF YOU MISS THIS EVENT YOU HAVE GOOD CHANCE ALL YOUR 15/15 CHARACTERS WOULD BE TRASH
Yes i am fucking mad because IMC is fucking too much around.

That should be a ne skill. Why will they take the game back to beta but they won't add more skills?

good, fuck off pyrocuk

resets your life to that day you installed tos

chance to get a gf

And it's the best the wizard tree has to offer as well

ever since quick cast attribute got removed there is no point in going wiz3, linker gets nerfed, pyro gets nerfed is the elememe build now going to be wiz > cryo > cryo > ele x3 > cryo > sage

Should I make a Miko / Diev now or make a Druid? I feel like I should make a Miko-Something, just in time for the rebalance so if I gotta redo her I don't have to redo the fucking quest.

Unironically yes

Maybe one circle of rune caster somewhere

Do a Miko, people on forums are saying hedgestone stats were reduced anyway.

Cast times.

they actually buffed frost cloud look at the numbers they reduced the duration but increased the scaling by a lot

you go QC to fast shit faster!

assuming the new dex affect some skills...they might change QC to speed up actual skill casting (those long wizard casting animations...)

Would be do nice

>halve the duration
>increase the scaling by 30%
That's a nerf

event when?

Druid gets killed to
HS will be only +10% buff, now is 100% and Druid is still shit.
Roll DievMikoPD for now and if you want to dps after the changes reset into Chaplain inquisitor or Monk3Inquisitor

My bad. It should be fixed now.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hkDYLih9nbsmH4Mfmv46jVxnVQYRQUiyBjAI3pbBgA/edit#gid=0

>ever since quick cast attribute got removed
Am I missing something here?

cast times.

I knew they were nerfing hs eventually.

It didn't needed a nerv at all

Bitch, i lost all chances to get a gf long before tos was released.

It did because in its current state it constricts all future cleric classes into having to account for a 100/100% atk/matk buff.

Druid is supposed to be shit.