>"Anyone who has not seen these fields of carnage will never be able to imagine it. When one arrives here the shells are raining down everywhere with each step one takes but in spite of this it is necessary for everyone to go forward. One has to go out of one's way not to pass over a corpse lying at the bottom of the communication trench. Farther on, there are many wounded to tend, others who are carried back on stretchers to the rear. Some are screaming, others are pleading. One sees some who don't have legs, others without any heads, who have been left for several weeks on the ground..."
Letter from a soldier of the 65th Infantry Division, July 1916.
Isn't there a research going on right now where they try to find out how long the troops exacty had to spend time in the front line? Because they don't know for fure about that.
Logan Bennett
Metal is cringe worthy fedora-tier music. I don't understand how anyone can enjoy metal and claim to have good taste.
Gavin Gray
its the anime of music
Aaron Russell
I was expecting a period piece and got this bullshit.
> We had come from lecture halls, school desks and factory workbenches, and over the brief weeks of training, we had bonded together into one large and enthusiastic group. Grown up in an age of security, we shared a yearning for danger, for the experience of the extraordinary. We were enraptured by war.
Liam Anderson
That's not the 30 years war
Jaxon Morgan
? they know, why wouldnt they this isn't a centuries+ old event this happened in the last hundred years and we have plenty of records
I was already in the army when the war broke out. And went to France on August the 13th, 1914.
You people over here don't realise what our boys went through in those days. That march from Mons was a nightmare, unless you've been through it you can't imagine what an agonizing time it was.
We used to do from 20 to 25 miles a day. There was only one thing that could cheer us up on the march, and that was singing.
Should have chosen Iron Maidens 'Paschendale' - lyrically far more beautiful and thoughtful than Sabaton.
Aaron Jackson
did you make these?
Jeremiah Martinez
Nope, but I have many saved
Luke Johnson
I love how Britain endlessly whines to this day despite not losing as many men as Germany and not having the war in their homeland, like France and Belgium.
Oh, but their struggle and their losses were so profound.
Josiah Jackson
Back to /mu/, faggots.
Adrian Sanders
its probably because the brits had never fought a war like that they were generally in some far away place against an inferior foe
Grayson Barnes
>endlessly whines I wouldn't call it whining, but then I'm not a malignant /int/poster.
Thomas Hall
The 30 years war didn't sign the decline of the continent, it was merely a drawback, and not even for every nation involved
Lucas Rogers
Tell me about Japan's involvement in ww1 and why Wilhem was so annoyed at the idea of losing to them.
Also tell me about the battle of Baku, the caucuses campaign and Azerbaijan
Elijah Cook
Japan occupied German-held Tsingtao and all their Pacific colonies, which they got to keep most of. They helped Britain with a colonial uprising and tried to take advantage of the great powers distraction by trying to increase their influence in China. That didn't work out. They did a bit in Siberia during the Russian Revolution They also sent some ships to the Mediterranean. Basically they gained some land and respect from the other great powers with no real loss
They also made a lot of money through exports, just like the US did
Logan Anderson
Lol, the British Empire lost alot of troops, what are you talking about?
going over the top bantering with my mates while carrying my Ross rifle
oh shit im dead now
John Cooper
To be fair, WW1 was the first (and only) war Britain really fought Before that (Spanish Succession, Seven Years War, Napoleonic Wars...etc) they'd just cower on their island and let their allies do all the work WW1 traumatized them so much that they went back to their old habit of letting their allies do all the work in WW2.
Grayson Jenkins
This isn't even wrong, it's beserk. Google 'the 19th century'.
>It will all be useless.--Clemenceau >This is not a peace deal, it is a twenty year armistice.--Foch >I cried. I wanted to die.--Vittorio Orlando WW1 was so depressing that even the peace conference felt like a tragedy while it was happening.
Angel Foster
You have to bear in mind the annihilation of the British imperial worldview, the discrediting of the established church for its role in propagandizing for the war, the devastation of its landed families, recognition for the first time of what the industrial age meant, and what British workers had learned to live with over much of the preceding century... that, far more than simply the casualties, is what changed Britain permanently. All of British history since has been formed by that war.
Noah Reed
But the thirty years killed mostly germans, which means that europe had time to prosper before those germ*ns had a time to recover and unite into an """empire"""
Adam Bell
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Noah Ward
When I say "war" I mean against equally developped foes Of course they could machine gun a bunch of spears-wielding niggers without needing allies
Charles Adams
seriously that meme is getting old, britain engaged enemy forces all over the world during most of the wars you mentioned, with british forces engaging and more frequently than not defeating french forces on battlefields from canada and the carribean to india and egypt to spain france, germany and the low countries
sure britain was primarily a naval power, managing to achieve a level of naval dominance by 1815 that was unprecedented at that time and indeed only matched by the USN since
Luke Price
Google "Kitchener's Army" and how the opening day of the 1916 Somme offensive went down.
>britain engaged enemy forces all over the world during most of the wars you mentioned, with british forces engaging and more frequently than not defeating french forces They fought in a bunch of secondary theatres that had limited impact on the outcome of the wars, usually against foes who were by far numerically inferior (and often had a hard time defeating them even then). It counts as fighting, but can hardly be compared to the massive efforts the powers on the continent undertook on a regular basis
Christopher Lopez
I live in north of France near Vimy, there are loads of military cemeteries with thousands of crosses of all nationalities involved. This is so sad.
Matthew Jones
>it was so horrifying a whole generation was just wasted away i'm only in high school and watched something about WW1 on youtube :^(
Fact: The majority of soldiers in WW1 never even saw combat, something that had never been seen in history before WW1.
Parker Reyes
The troops hated that song by early 1916.
This was closer to what they sang as they marched or did fatigues:
>They fought in a bunch of secondary theatres that had limited impact on the outcome of the wars except they were decisive in forcing the french to accepting that the french and spanish crowns must be seperate, and had the allied claimant not died of unrelated causes would have put him on the spanish throne, stripped france of most of her overseas empire and were the sustaining force of the napoleonic wars
and in the spanish succession it was a british general in command of anglo dutch forces that won most of the major battles and campaigns
seriously I know Veeky Forums is rabidly anglophobic most of the time and bizarrely francophilic but you dont get to be a major empire and arguably the first global super power without kicking someones teeth in on land as well as sea
Elijah Roberts
Austrian soldiers in the Dolomites,
Jayden King
Austrian outposts
Christopher Hall
Through 1916 and 17, the Austrians dug their bunkers into glaciers overlooking Italian positions. They would even dig tunnels to launch attacks from through the ice.
Dominic Scott
Reading fear by gabriel chevallier Good book Lads
Ayden Sullivan
The Castelletto was garrisoned by Austrians even after the fall of the overlooking peaks. Separated from the mountains by 100 yards of open rock, the Italains attemped to blow the entire rock. The hard granite held, blowing up the narrow neck before the attack, Italian infantry charged into the smoking crater. Between Austrian machinegun fire and noxious fumes from the pulverized mountain, the Italian assault failed.
The Austrians withdrew to to better prepared positions within a month.
Blake Diaz
Austrian supply lines.
Jeremiah Brooks
Italian engineers cut this road for their supply during 1916
Noah Lee
Trenches were rare, instead stacked rock would provide cover from rifle and machine-gun fire. Unfortunately medium and large caliber guns would shatter the limestone base, sending rock pieces flying.
I'm always amazed at the combatants in this theater. The Italians in WWI were exactly lions led by lambs, or perhaps just idiots. The bravery it takes to attack Austrian positions time and again, with no RnR (Some Italian generals though barbwire placement and trench digging was RnR) is incredible.
I'd recommend "the white war" by Mark S Thompson, gives a good description of the front, as well as Italian motivations from top to bottom. I wish there was as good a source in English for the Austrian side, though Thompson goes into it more during the Austro-German offensives.
Jaxon Thomas
Disallowing the kilt in combat was a mistake 2bh
Aaron Bailey
Cheers for the content.
Charles Watson
Metal trivializes the whole thing and makes it look fake-hardcore. That is what all metal does. People apply it to things to look "badass' but it just makes it look fake. If you want to capture the feelings of the war, use music from the time period. God damn fucking shit.
Blake Rodriguez
>London >Scottish wut?
Henry Thompson
There were Scottish units all over the Empire: Canada, Australia, South Africa, even India.
Kayden Lee
it's not the fact that it's metal, it's the fact that it's sabameme
Gabriel Bennett
Thanks lad. I think it's a shame how little the Italian front is covered and I'm interested to learn more. The caucuses campaign has always interested me too.
Nicholas Sanchez
Why did so many Turkish civilians die during ww1? I heard turkey lost almost 20% of its population and a lot of it because of civilian death. I believe they also had the highest civilian casualty rate so why did so many die?
