>What is this? A general for all strategic, operational, and tactical wargames that can't generate enough traffic to sustain their own generals. ARMA need not apply.
>Example welcome games: Steel Division: Normandy 44 Wargame: Red Dragon Combat Mission Call to Arms Flashpoint Campaigns Graviteam Tactics Theatre of War Men of War Command: Modern Air Naval Operations Armored Brigade Close Combat Steel Panthers MBT CMANO
>do I want a data mining site run by a scamming nip or do I want a data mining site run by a fat white guy who ran away to the Philippines really makes one ponder
Aaron Cook
Actual tier list:
12. SS Boy Scouts 17. SS PzGren 15th Scottish 2nd Infantry 3rd Armored 91st Luftlande
Jordan Reyes
I'd put 2nd above Scotts imo. I think I would actually rather play Luft than 3rd armored.
Isaiah Baker
I still think you're underselling the 15 Scots.
Dominic Gray
It's not like the alternative is much better
Kayden Garcia
Now that scots don't have that veterancy, they're worse than the 2nd ID
Eli Perez
baited bodied
Luke Cruz
The veteran infantry is unnecessary if you use your stuart honeys and mmg carriers effectively. You can have a shitload of light vehicles and you have access to the AVRE. You also have a 17 pdr in a vehicle that doesn't die to artillery.
Gabriel Foster
>LMGs have minimum ranges What chucklefuck at Eugen thought this was a good idea?
Blake Jones
ikr, should remove all positioning shenanigans from the game
Ethan Myers
It's not a bad idea desu, I get what they're trying to represent with it. They just need to re-classify the BAR as a rifle so that it's not effected.
Nathan Howard
I like to ask this question in all the different RTS communities - how does everyone manage their micromanagement? New players especially are familiar with that moment of paralysis where you realize you need to be giving out orders but you don't know where to start, or get tunnel vision and forget about a unit, or you don't properly utilize a special ability/call-in, etc. What methods do you use to find the right balance of micro and keeping situational awareness?
Ethan Robinson
I prioritize by economic value. So in ferrous gonorrhea if I'm playing as the 12. I will always prioritize my tanks, and once they are doing what they should be I'll move on to my support vehicles, then my infantry, then my non-frontline assets. This of course is modified by what they are doing, so if my infantry are in a pivotal position I'll prioritize them. Basically play more and git gud.
Ayden Cox
By playing wargames.
Jeremiah Green
Ooooy vey
Joshua King
Took me a second to notice the swastika. How butthurt can people be?
Jack Flores
This guy was trying to get eugen to start moderating global chat because the opinions he didn't like weren't valid. >capcha: dresden saules Is this irony?
Juan Johnson
I make sure my units are positioned well. Takes away a lot of micro
Adrian Smith
Give it too meeeeee, REEEE
Jackson Martin
Two nebelwerfers and some mortars and it's all dead
Brandon Green
>hill defense mission
Colton Lewis
Does STD even have elevation modeled in any way
Samuel Hall
yes but france is very flat
Nicholas Russell
Moe desu
Jaxson Robinson
for you
Angel Peterson
France is literally worst girl
Nathan Collins
France tries her best user
Alexander Morgan
But France, is no longer France.
Mason King
Well modern France oppai and thus isn't really France.
John Cox
In Eugen games it's about experience. The more I play the more I develop default responses for every situation. If you already know what you want to do it's a leisurely 3-4 clicks to do it. Rapid micro only becomes an issue if you're forced to watch for any new developments because you don't have an idea of what to expect.
Also positioning as the other guy said. For example if you know from experience where to place your fire support, you don't have to keep fiddling with it during a fight. You always have to give some orders engagements but it only devolves into focused microing if you have to make lots of adjustments because the initial setup was lacking.
Colton Cox
Victoria 2 is welcome here?
John Butler
What exactly do CMD vehicles do in Steel Division? This doesn't work like WG I assume?
Asher Jones
I don't mind but you're better off in /gsg/.
Cooper Harris
Add a star of veterancy in a radius just like command infantry.
Isaac Clark
I don't know if anyone in any situation are better off in /gsg/.
Dominic Morgan
>trying to balance game without all units/divisions in play
Dumb idea. As expected from a bunch of Macron viters.
Lucas Long
I will try /gsg/ then, thanks user :)
Wyatt Wood
He won't be here at least
Jaxon Stewart
Fair. Haven't even looked in there in years.
Carter Sanchez
Last year, the last time I was there, they were having another autism war.
Isaac Flores
be absolute bad asses
Jason Robinson
>/gsg/ >autism They like paracucks games post CK2
Luke Butler
Did our opponent have brain damage?
Adam Johnson
Well yeah, if a non-braindead smart person plays 12th SS or the new 17th SS its a sure win against 3AD and maybe 15th Scots now (mainly if they are 17th).
Evan Sanders
Improve vet level and morale of units around them.
Christopher Reed
How can we make the 12th SS competitive?
I propose we nerf the Jumbo to 240 points and raise the Panther D's front armor by at least 3.
Aiden Rodriguez
give them CMD Tiger 1 in Phase A, its like when that guy killed 40 american tanks by himself
Lucas Scott
I want to gas all pubbies in this fucking game
>17th SS faggot arying literally everything as soon as I make a push >Wehraboo that was playing allies for once surrenders half way though >Check my team's stats >15% win rate
Kayden Sullivan
maybe if we had a steel division discord or something to organize pick up games
Eli Price
Why? Tiger Is aren't exceptional in '44.
Luis Young
Link?
Henry Sanchez
give it 3km range and 8 accuracy and 9rds per minute
Luke Cook
discord.gg/NnfpuRq This is the only /wgg/ discord I know about, its brand new and has low members
Benjamin Wood
Also make armor angling apply to it and nothing else to represent the experience of the panzerfuhrer
Benjamin King
This is a good historical suggestion! The Phase A CMD Tiger I can have its side AV added to its front AV to represent the experienced panzer ace's skill at angling the tank for maximum effect.
More balance suggestions like this please so we can give the Waffen-SS and Heer the authentic capabilities they need to survive against the Jumbo. Sharts and teaboos need not apply!
Jace Sanchez
>Guy playing 3rd armored is actually competent >Stuart and Half track rush up the left side at the start >my Tri-Polsten deployed in the center of the city completely eliminates the 17th Warcrimes advance until he simply Nebels the town to death >Stuarts and Cromwells smash their attempt to advance in the center
Aaron Lee
>cromwells when were they added for allies?
Nathaniel Cooper
I just used an AVRE on troops in the open. I feel dirty.
Cameron Sanders
Meant Churchills But soon, Guards Armored should have them
Easton Morgan
Guards Armored and Poles will get a shit-ton of them.
Why doesn't 12th SS Hitlerjugend get Beute Jumbos?
I think this would help get them where they need to be in terms of balance.
Lucas Mitchell
>Soros is inviting you to play
0.50$ has been deposited in your steam account
Aiden Lewis
Why dont they get Beute Centurions and Super Pershings? As it stands they are completely underpowered and nowhere near historical levels of combat effectiveness. ALL infantry in SS divisions should also get at minimum 1 star of veterancy and have panzerfausts
Juan Gomez
What's your winrate dudes? sitting at comfy 65% here with almost 50 games.
Jackson White
panzershrecks*
Levi Walker
>he forgot his AA
Ian Parker
Were they all coming inside some town one by one...?
Jordan Cox
disgusting
Jonathan Bell
Amazing game, truly one of the best of the decade! Great focus on realism and using real world tactics.
The SS units, however, needs to go. Not only are they OP, but you cannot ignore the despicable reputation of the real world Waffen SS division. They're the bastards that did the Oradour sur Glane massacre, where they burnt an entire village's population in its fucking church. They are reviled in France even today, and even though I'm not one to censor games, this was chosen in very bad taste. What's next, a concentration camps special unit?
If you really want to have an elite force for the Germans, you could name it Grossdeutschland (they're usually considered to be the best German division of WW2)
Nolan Robinson
think of all the 80-year-olds that will see this, try to play it and get triggered into anxiety attacks
Jaxson Nguyen
fuck off jew
Brayden Gonzalez
Why are there no helicopter in Steel Division?
Isaac Cooper
Inside a forest, they literally stunned them in a second when i had a leader backing the Stoßtruppen.
Kevin Ward
>Adolf Diekmann said the atrocity was in retaliation for the partisan activity in nearby Tulle and the kidnapping of Helmut Kämpfe. Justified.
Xavier Miller
>tfw the next expansion will just be Normandy + Boats
Brayden Hernandez
cold war was too complicated, we tank+infantry only now for broader appeal
John Butler
*MILANs
Julian Harris
>June 1944 Europe >Helos
Stop asking for them
Sebastian Ortiz
ded game ded thread
Jaxon Hall
>boats no
Easton Hernandez
ur mum is ded
Nicholas Rodriguez
Why do people think Jumbo's are OP? Just because they can kill Pz IV's? (which isn't a unique trait)
James Young
>telling new player to use NATO icons in the previous thread what the fuck
do NOT use NATO icons in steel division, as it is they objectively give you less information. if you want to learn the units, just go into the battlegroup builder and autistically study what each thing does, mouse over numbers and read the tooltips, etc. barely anyone knows what an IG-18 is, but eugene games are about learning the specifics of long lists of units and exactly how they can fuck you.
Alexander Stewart
Because they don't die at range easily so they have to expose their precious panthers.
Wyatt Russell
...
Evan Turner
If you don't even know what an IG 18 is you need to git out.
James Hall
The only argument that Wehrs have is that yes, Luftlande are shit.
Anyone who thinks that SS Boyscouts are underpowered needs to get good and shut up, their div is the best in the game right now.
Nicholas Rivera
this honestly
Ryder Walker
But user how can the German divisions be good if I can't win even when using my units in the dumbest way possible?
Cameron Edwards
T. Jimbo
Asher Lewis
STOP ASKING FOR FUCKING 12TH SS BUFFS YOU SHITTERS
Brody Ward
Achilles when?
Carson Carter
When the GAD or the Poles come
Alexander Garcia
>12th SS Galatic Prettyboys ftfy get it right
Canadians too.
Parker Hall
SERBIAN SHELLS ARE LED BY GOD'S HAND. WHERE WE SEND IT OUR SHELL HITS IT