Why doesn't every car use an LS engine? They're clearly the best engine on the market in terms of price, size, weight...

>not making 270whp~ stock

my LS1 fbody

>tfw extremely capable car that i payed almost nothing for

0-60 in less than 5 secs, can put the power down through a corner also. handling is extremely underrated for these cars

It was just bait

>250 ftlb at 8000 rpm

my LS makes more peak torque off idle, and redlines lower than this thing operates

different applications entirely

>muh 10,500 rpm

track-only-tier. LS is daily driver friendly

>Lexus weighs over two tons

absolute fucking disgust

HEMI>LS1
Ecoboost>LS1
Coyote 5.0>LS1

>tfw LS400 weighs 3800lb

its a luxury car brah

>Ecoboost
Eh, overstepping that one.

>HEMI

in pigfat nigger mobiles exclusively

>ecoboost

junk

>coyote

only a little faster than my car, and cost literally 10 times more

for that money you're in a Z06 corvette LS6

>if you have actual money and not some dealership loan

>torque
>relevant
ameridumb lol

>track-only-tier.
nope, you can DD a superbike

reminder GM has never ever beaten Ford at LeMans, has lost to the ecoboost twice

What about 1jz?

>torque
>>not relevant

tell that to my 72hp honda ED6 hatchback

torque is the most important by far

reminder there is literally zero, nada, none, 0 GM LS engines faster than this stock casting modular

accufabracing.com/accufab-mustang

GM can't compete

The LS1 has not lost to ecoboost. C5R is still faster.

>2.5l n/a

my bros 2JZGE is aids compared to muh LS1

nope, there is a reason race cars and race bikes do not have big marine turbodiesels

>c5 is faster
nope

reminder JZ engines have run the quarter mile in 5 seconds, an LS has never ever done that

the LS engine is simply sub-par

its not news to me that the N/A 4.6l Cobra 4V aluminum block is one of the best production V8s of the modern era

however my 6 bolt aluminum block LS1 is in a car that cost a fraction of the amount of a cobra

>nope
yep

and? it is still slower

>b-but mods
you can mod the modular, and at the end of the day, you will run the quarter in 5's, something no LS engine has ever done in the past

>JZ JZ JZ JZ

I often have to remind myself of the jap superiority of a pigfat iron block 3.0l everytime my NA 2JZ with a race header throws another CEL

I have had absolutely zero problems with my LS1 car. for years now (and i drift it)

A real 8 cylinder has it's pistons in a row.

prove it then

I don't care about you and your cars? there are JZ engines running the quarter mile in the 5 second range, there are literally and unironically zero LS engines that fast

>spoon feed me mommy!

>still slower

My car makes the exact same amount of factory rated ponies. 305 HP

however the LS1 is widely known to be underrated, hence why my car does 0-60 almost .8 seconds faster than the N/A Cobra

>m-mods

the Cobra is only really good for a turbo setup

a 6.0l truck motor LS is almost as good desu

>5 sec quarter

you probably drive a car that would be lucky to run a 15 second quarter

so you accept Ford is faster then

>blah blah irrelevant shit

there are 5 second DOHC modulars and 2jz, yet there are (((0))) LS engines in that range

the LS is inferior

>so you accept Ford is faster then
Yes, when powered by anything other than ecoboost.

nope, Ford has beaten GM two times out of two already with the ecoboost

>$5000 vs $500

Yeah okay buddy

Not the LS1 though. which that guy was saying is better.

I don't think any car nowadays has a long enough engine bay.

I really wanna hear how this sounds though.

i just bought a camro ss 1le 2 days ago and i like it:^)

Speed is a matter of money. Also, stop doing cross brand engine swaps, if you want a GM car just buy one.

because the LS1 is even lower than the ls5r

the most powerful ls1 engine made literally half of what the most powerful ecoboost v6 accomplishes

geeky-gadgets.com/radical-unveils-700bhp-rxc-turbo-500r-2016-03-03/

>because the LS1 is even lower than the ls5r
How if the C5Rs made more power?
>RXC TUrbo
The GTLM GT and all GTLM don't make 700 HP.

pure seyoutube.com/watch?v=tQrduPZ1xfIx

hemispherical heads are shit for compression and need boost to be worth while.

>c5r
>makaing above 700hp
lol, the c5r didn't use an ls1, it used a 7 liter engine

>The GTLM GT and all GTLM don't make 700 HP.
we are talking about the engine, not the Ford GT

>I don't know what I am talking about

do you belive hemi engines use flat top pistons or what?

>>c5r makaing above 700hp
Never said it did. it made more power racing than the LS5R though.
>the c5r used a 7 liter engine
That retained production elements from the LS1.

almost forgot
>we are talking about the engine, not the Ford GT
The initial response was le mans and ecoboost hasn't gone around le mans faster or beaten the C5R.

You still add mass to the weight of the cylinder if you do this. It also ruins combustion.

it still makes less power than the ecoboost

>That retained production elements from the LS1.
ok?, still less power

why do you torture yourself defending an inferior engine, join the Ford side already

Because you don't like to win?

wrong see strictly talking about production engines

there is a 700hp ecoboost engine in a production car, stay BTFO

>it still makes less power than the ecoboost
But has achieved more in motorsports and in terms of technical feats too like reaching 25+mph whilst meeting emissions in a production car.
>join the Ford side already
I am on the Ford side. i love the modular series (coyote), FE engine etc. i just don't like ecoboost.

>wrong see
No, your response was about Le mans.

>25+
250+*

>But has achieved more in motorsports
irrelevant as, when facing Ford, GM has always lost LeMans

>whilst meeting emissions in a production car.
what LS1 powered car can reach 250 mph???

it doesn't matter what my reply was, the original argument was production engines

also

>coyote
unironically the worst modular engine

>irrelevant
Nope.
>when facing Ford, GM has always lost LeMans
We weren't talking about GM vs Ford we are talking about the LS1.

>what LS1 powered car can reach 250mph???
Ultimate aero. LS6 is a higher output version LS1 and they share architecture

>it doesn't matter what my reply was
It does since you didn't come at me we power output as a goalpost and neither did he you brought up le mans.

>coyote unironically the worst modular engine
Why? i like how its revvy and how it responds to boost.

>tfw no aluminium-block Barra
It would destroy the LS.

>we are talking about the LS1.
and the ls1 is inferior to the ecoboost found in the radical rxc turbo 500r, the ls6 and the c5r engines are not ls1s

> LS6 is a higher output version LS1 and they share architecture
except the SSC uses a c5r engine, which is not a production ls1???

>how it responds to boost.
terribly? stock rotating assembly destroys itsef 600 hp, LMR and other sites have shown and made articles about this, the 5.4 was superior

>the ls6 and the c5r engines are not ls1s
they are different variants. they aren't newly designed from the ground up.
>radical rxc turbo 500r
That's not even a production car itself.

>except the SSC uses a c5r engine, which is not a production ls1???
What? this is saying it used an LS6 with extra displacement.
autocar.co.uk/car-review/ssc/ultimate-aero/first-drives/ssc-ultimate-aero-tt

>terribly? stock rotating assembly destroys itsef 600 hp, LMR and other sites have shown and made articles about this, the 5.4 was superior
Oh damn, that is unfortunate. i still like that its revvy though even if it isn't the best mod. supposedly they could be opened up to rev higher than what Ford set them at but i'm not for sure. also heard of a redline increase for the newer mustang.

>different variants
an ls6 and a c5r engine are not ls1s

>That's not even a production car itself.
yes it is?

the ssc used a c5r engine
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSC_Aero

also, the only revvy modern modular is the 5.2 but Ford decided it was a good idea not to offer it as a crate

fucking dumbasses

Pushrods are so good I use them to power wash all my DOHC things.

>an ls6 and a c5r engine are not ls1s
They are closely related though. like supposedly the GT engine is to the F150.
>wikipedia
They link to an article not mentioning the C5R as citation?

>yes it is?
The ones on the nurburgring were British Single Vehicle Approval only and were removed from the production section of the wiki. i doubt these ones would get production status.

All i hear is choo choo.

>half the displacement
who would have imagined it would be smaller?

fuck u - ill swap ls into jdm all day long

They're not. They're cheap and plentiful and have an ocean of an aftermarket.

no one is talking about the f150 ecoboost, you on the other hand are talking about the ls1 specifically

>They link to an article not mentioning the C5R as citation?
are you retarded? it says right there that it uses the c5r engine

makes the same power

>Why doesn't every car use an LS engine?
because they aren't all fucking GM

>makes the same power

In a way, WAY more fucking stressed way. That hayabusa based v8 will not hit 100K miles like any LS will.
Shit, that Hayabusa v8 will shit the bed before a Honda CBR900 motorcycle engine will.

And finally... that is a pathetic amount of torque. It'd be a sweet engine in an Ariel atom or KTM xbow, but in a real car? Fucking grow up and gimme a break.

>torque
>relevant
Ameridumb

This is probably the worst thread in the history of threads. Well done Veeky Forums

>you on the other hand are talking about the ls1 specifically
The engine specifically or a specific letter and number combination? these are not different engines.

>f150 ecoboost
Analogy. used to describe the relation between the LS1 and LS6.

>it says right there that it uses the c5r engine
The wiki or the article the wiki links to? the prototype spawned from diablo replicas used a C5R engine not the production car.

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Doesn't matter. No excuses

*best

Don't know why I typed worst

>not 13b swapping every 510 and Starlet you come across for maximum memeage

The 1UZ is stronger and it isn't fucking PUSHRODS

>tfw no UZ-swapped AE86

Bump

>swaps a LS into a FD

nothin personnel kid

How the heck did it lose that much power? Automatic?

>the kid who thought I made this thread threw a temper tantrum and deleted all his posts

>with no work required
>citation needed

>Just keeps getting dumber.

Came here to ask this as well. Some poverty tier provider that piggybacks off another I imagine

I'm an LS400 fanboy and the 1UZ is my favorite engine but it's waaaay too expensive to mod it unless you live in straya and no one makes performance parts, like literally no one. That 6 bolt main and forged internals though, based as fuck

LS swapped FD is sacrilege.
A LS swapped FE on the other hand...

>prez/poo/ begs the mods to delete the triggering cintent
>somehow prezo still gets triggered by his memories

lol

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