What are you more worried about?

The ICE getting banned

or

Non self driving cars being banned

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non self driving cars.

the only ones who want to ban them are commies. commies hate the idea of people being self-sufficient and being able to do things themselves. the state should transport them.

if non self driving cars do get banned, it means we're living in a commie world where there's no reason for anyone to ever aspire to get ahead, meaning all innovation is stifled and humanity regresses.

Controlling the means of transport is an actual plank of the communist manifesto, by the way.

Neither. Cars getting more and more and more unaffordable because of all the bullshit regulations they keep piling on and piling on and piling on until the only people who can afford them are the 10% and everyone else is riding the bus or the nu-bus.

Human drivers getting banned and tracks getting closed. At the very least electric cars can be made fun.

This, last time I bought a new car salesman and I had a discussion that basically boiled down to him not being able to make it on commission anymore because 70% of his walk inside were looking for a lease because they couldn't actually afford a good car when ten years ago they could.

>driving through city at night
>self driving cars are here and there
>get in front of one
>slam brakes
>self driving car goes into collision mode and activates hazards tosses passengers and calls 911
>i speed off instantly

I look forward to both

it needs to happen

lol no theyre not

>you are on camera from when you were behind the car
>when you were overtaking
>and when you were in front

>>speed off
haha, nice try, cuck

btw the self driving car will instantly break when you get infront of it and there is not enough space for a full stop
there won't be a crash

>motorcycles will be banned within your lifetime

>things that won't happen
>in any lifetime

Maabe not 50cc scooters, but you can be sure ASSAULT mopeds with high capacity babykilling engines will be consigned to the track by 2030 at the latest.

never
you know how many people actually ride bikes?
every government on this planet would get so much shit for this, their buildings would burn

>be me
>live in Netherlands-Caliphate of North-Western New Arabia
>more bicycles than people
>cyclists protected by law
>2smoke 50cc to be banned in Dudeweed City along with other large cities
>old diesels (pre 2002?) already banned in some cities
>cyclists enjoy some form of legal protection in traffic law
>RON 95 is 1.50 per liter
>CO2 based "luxury" tax. Mustang GT is 120k+
>weight and fuel based road tax regardless of number of miles driven, varying from ~30 bucks per month for a gasoline aygo to 700 bucks per 3 months for a LPG merican trucc
Granted, our """"car culture"""" mainly consists of guys in track suits in pre 2000's golfs, or boomer accountants/physicians/dentists in 911's.
The horror.

If ICE gets banned then illegal immigration will become a massive problem.

>shitposting aside
Non-self driving cars is the biggest concern, once the tech gets there society at large will consider human drivers a risk and it will eventually not become illegal to drive cars without self driving tech, but market forces (e.g. the pricing of insurance for a human operated vehicle) will eventually push them out of the market.

Wasn't there some proposal from the PvdA to outright ban sales of non-electric cars before 2020 or some shit as well?
Granted it didn't go through at the time, but I remember reading something along those lines and I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to pull that shit again.

Neither. I'm okay with both.

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pricing won't change much
self driving cars are/will be extremely expensive
insurance would have to be raised by a couple 1000% to make people switch to self driving cars

Yes, I believe it was to be outlawed after 2025. The Socialist Party (sp) actually wants/wanted to have cargo shipped with ships instead of using lorries and trucks because muh diesel muh pollution
>meanwhile
>4000 ppm sulfur fuel in ships
>Somehow doesn't pollute
Toppest of keks were had.

there's a critical mass friend.
when self driving tech is really commercialized at first, it will be an uber premium feature for the rich on the high end cars. slowly, it will trickle down. lower end trims and models of luxury cars will have it. then it'll be an option on higher end trims of regular car makes. then it'll trickle down to a cheaper option. next thing you know it'll be standard.

try to buy a car in the states without power windows nowadays. or transponders for the keys.
hell, even the near base trims of certain chevys nowadays come with remote start (factory installed) as a dirt cheap option or standard. same with heated seats.

side curtain airbags slowly became essentially required. this year it's backup cams. for 2022/2023 the focus is forward collision/pedestrian detection and automatic braking.

eventually self driving tech will be expected by consumers as a nice perk, eventually it will become mandatory, and then as newer cars replace older cars there will be momentum to take the "unsafe" human piloted cars off the road over time.

it may or may not fully be realized in our lifetimes, but I would bet dollars to donuts that affording the insurance to drive a non self driving car will be outside the reasonable means of pretty much everyone within 50 years at best.

i have a question? how have you not killed yourself?

diesel ships contribute like 20% of earths pollution, no kidding look it up. cars are a much smaller portion.

Not worried, because neither will happen. I'm hoping there will be an automated electric taxi service for stupid assholes who don't like driving, so I can have more fun and not feel as guilty.

Speaking of insurance, Musk is supposedly juggling the idea of having Tesla offer in-house insurance for Tesla owners. It would be interesting to see what sort of rates would result from that, considering Tesla has mountains of data from every single car (meaning they could use a super-smart algorithm or whatever to determine the cost to you)

Simple dear user. I have relatives living in the US. An uncle and his wife, both physicians. My gf and I are both doing an MD + PhD study and we'll both be done in 2 years. We'll be moving to the US after that. My relatives actually invited us to move to the US. I'm not idolizing the US or anything, but it just seems like one of the better options right now.

This is great if and only if there are literally zero human driven cars on the road so that the system is completely deterministic to the oversight system/network/what-have-you.
One meatbag in his shitbox going full retard and the system will still collapse as the risk-aversion subroutines (and you can bet the system will be heavily skewed towards risk aversion) still slow traffic down to a crawl.
Unless there's AGI around in which case traffic is the least of anyone's problem.

Even when electric takes over, whatever. Or they should keep up the work with hydrogen fuel because then we can keep our precious ICE without the carbon.


The self-driving cars will suck. If they actually implement that before I die, I hope they keep an option open for professional drivers or whoever else willing to take a class and still actually drive vehicles. I would take the class.

>buy 600+cc motorcycle
>deplate, debadge, whatever
>get a blacked out vidor for your helmet cameras and such can't see through
>go out with your buddies in a gang
>bully self-driving cars

While both are pretty fucked up, the no self driving one would be worse. Atleast we still have the potential to have fun in an electric sports car of sorts.

a future with only self driving cars is just more Utopian bullshit that sadly and worryingly is very popular with impressionable young people.

self driving cars are 100000x worse than electric cars. At least you can have some sembelence of fun in a tesla p100 and i'm sure some cunt will work out how to make them drift.

Some redditurd unironically described cars as "death machines" and i wanted to vomit

I'm worried that there are people on Veeky Forums RIGHT NOW driving cars that do not have direct injection.

>Directional Injection is love
>Directional Injection is live

>Some redditurd unironically described cars as "death machines" and i wanted to vomit
Elon Musk himself once said "You can't trust a human to control a two-ton death machine".