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How can people still take Nasuverse lore seriously in 2017.
Nicholas Brown
Reminder old Rin could have beaten Manaka and BEAST VI
Jordan Watson
People still took 40k lore seriously in 2017 too
Lucas Martin
Manaka is above Goetia level
Goetia dies in anguish
Manaka lets herself die in Arthur penetration bliss because lel she always comes back anyway
Will other magus ever compare?
Aaron Reyes
Only as TO-SAKA.
Gavin Ortiz
My husband Astolfo is CUTE!
Adrian Foster
But she can't please old man for jewels when she become old.
Joshua Flores
Yes? Why wouldn't you?
Wyatt Kelly
Place your bets.
Michael Williams
She'll just have to please young boys for jewels instead.
Owen Hall
I don't know, Counter Guardian TOHSAKAH went full streetwhore milf, with anime aging that should keep her going into her 40s.
Benjamin Bailey
40k was never serious about its lore. Contact Veeky Forums for more detail.
Justin Lewis
How come Ishtar couldn't do shit? Rin > Ishtar confirmed?
Evan Collins
Wait so Dantes is based on this guy?
Nicholas Gonzalez
Post Nigel (Sigurd) and his detective adventure's
Samuel Edwards
>contacting a dead board
Landon Robinson
No shit.
Edmond Dantes gets fucked over and locked up, so after getting some treasure he returns with the new title of the Count of Monte Cristo to take his revenge. It's a classic novel.
Jaxon Thomas
Ishtar only has an A++ NP so she can only take 1 life from Herakles. But Rin can take 6 lives with enough jewels.
So yes, Rin >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ishtar.
Jose Flores
Rin power is correlate to how many jewels she has [old men she is able to please]
Jack Reyes
So theoretically, if Chaldea got Rin and kept summoning old men for her, she could have soloed Goetia
Jonathan Thompson
Rama could've solo'd Goetia desu
Jose Jones
It would have still fucked over humans in the long run if god didn't have the foresight to tell solomon to send a ring to the future.
Jaxson Nelson
Unlimited power
Logan Robinson
3 quartz fragments and leaning on 'no' seems a safe bet.
Grayson Morgan
If he's in his blue archer form then yeah.
There is a reason why she is a suitable vessel of Ishtar, the goddess of prostitution
Samuel Gutierrez
It was a stupid idea. God needs to leave again and let Notes happen.
Henry Johnson
It's only unlimited power if you have some method of acquiring unlimited old men.
Jonathan Wright
>People still took 40k lore seriously Better that than believing the rules are well-written
James Clark
That does bring up a point, is what the post-humans do in NOTES magecraft?
I know it took a hit after they made /qst/ but it's far from a dead board.
Dominic Harris
I never really used ShuWho before this event but holy shit is his NP gen terrible for an Arts unit.
Aiden Morales
It's dead to me
fucking anal sex hating mod
Nicholas Anderson
Notes was never going to happen in Fate.
Anthony Wilson
Ishtar can do jewels too you know If anything she can do it easier cause EX mana goddess perk
Carson Walker
No, Magecraft is dead in Notes. True Human's don't even exist anymore apart from Gun God. The closest thing is the Ether Liner's and they're basically snorting the planet's decaying flesh to make bio-weapons.
Christian Gomez
Despite the Arts NP and the Arts boost he's really made for Quick crit teams.
He actually does a fuckton of damage when his crit buffs are active and being able to hit through dodges and invuln is cool.
Jaxon Jackson
Well, he's God, it's less of 'foresight' and knowing how things will turn.
Luis Wilson
Ishtar's Mana Burst is literally jewels she can store and she's got EX mana. She's obviously better than Rin at jewels.
Jordan Rivera
>didn't get a single Melt but got three Passionlips instead Fucking hell, why is this happening to me.
Logan Adams
Isn't Ishtars mana burst jewels because of Rin, and if she wasn't there it would be different
Brody Walker
> Knowing how things will turn
Considering Fate is a multiverse with literal dead-ends, I don't think the whole "God's Plan" thing is in effect here
Camden Myers
I've always wondered. What classes does the Clock Tower actually teach?
Jose Hall
Despite the literal dead ends, there are tons of variations of future sight.
Jayden King
Yeah magecraft is dead without gaia around correct as its the one to make the foundations and toll users for using magecraft. So magecraft is fucked once humans in certain timelines get to space since gaia won't be around for foundations. How to be a dick using magecraft 101
Dead ends are now "trimmed timelines" by our God Nasu. Go to Tsukihime with your edgy shit. A dead franchise deserves that kind of end.
Nathan Russell
Narcissism How to lose Empathy and Morals Making incredibly stupid decisions Knitting
Lucas Wilson
As a matter of fact, yes If it wasn't for Rin Ishtar wouldn't even need the jewels Though she likes the bling anyway, so I bet she would use them even without the need to
Ryan Johnson
There's a difference of a trimmed timeline to something like what Goetia did which was on a larger scale than "Issei kills Shirou."
Benjamin Gomez
Extella introduced the dead end thing harder though and it's pure Fate, literally saying certain timeline's just straight up end because human's didn't get far enough and they were 'failures'
Joshua Hall
Don't forget the class on 'how to use very chuuni words to explain concepts that could be simplified'
Luke Taylor
So is UBW shirou still in Clock Tower in 2017?
Luis Reyes
>So magecraft is fucked once humans in certain timelines get to space since gaia won't be around for foundations. Not necessarily true. Through Reality Marbles anything is possible. Once humanity breaks free of Gaia they could theoretically just remake the foundations of Magecraft through a Reality Marble, though that would ultimately be regressive.
Asher Myers
I doubt it seeing as he would be like 30
He's either dead or he's gone somewhere else to be a hero
Nathan Lewis
No, he's dead
Shirou has a hero complex, magus are literal devil's,
Rin mourns him every year while fucking other men for jewels
Easton Campbell
Reality marbles still require a world egg to overlay, but than again a supercomputer can create reality marbles. I swore nasu said that shirou would be dead round 30ish in the EMIYA timeline at least. Though we know rin survives to 2014 at least to dismantle the greater grail in fate and UBW timelines.
Thomas Foster
It's not Gaia's rules or system, it's what humans (and Solomon) decided what the rules and system were. This warped the world and because a fact matching their views, and became facts. The anthropic principle is a bitch. Science did the same with the laws: reducing everything to a set of laws made everything follow it.
Brandon King
Nah, I doubt Shirou is dead. He's probably back in Fuyuki making babies with Rin.
Isaiah Lopez
>I swore nasu said that shirou would be dead round 30ish in the EMIYA timeline at least. Emiya timeline is roughly like Fate. UBW shouldn't end up anything like it. >Though we know rin survives to 2014 at least to dismantle the greater grail in fate and UBW timelines. I doubt Rin would die of anything but old age really. She's both way too pragmatic and smart to go around running into gunfire like Shirou.
Leo King
Humans decided they should all die with the planet apart from a gun god dude?
Kevin Thomas
Goetia still had to hack gaia to create the 1st foundation, gaia is the one responsible for foundations after all, no gaia = no foundations. The more we learn bout gaia the more she seems like a shitter.
Landon Thompson
>Reality marbles still require a world egg to overlay Did you forget the Time Temple?
Ryan Carter
Well considering a lot of magi can make themselves live for over 100+ years with people like zouken being 500 years old. So rin may be around to see the true death of magecraft.
Jordan Wright
> UBW Route Shirou > The one who genuinely believes being a hero is a cool thing to do > Not off being stupid getting himself killed
He might not end up regretting things like Emiya but he's probably going to end up dying young. Probably to some magus group he pisses off.
HF Shirou is the one who'll settle to make baby's
Henry Morales
Notes was written over a time that Nasu was following Saint Agustine's views of history rather than Joachim of Fiore.
>Goetia still had to hack gaia to create the 1st foundation Goetia wanted to travel before the planet was formed. He wanted to replace Gaia. His body was going to be the foundation.
Matthew Scott
Fate Shirou is the one who'll die easily. UBW Shirou has Rin to keep him in check.
Brandon Campbell
Does his new body even have a ponos though
Charles Long
Magi, or the human ones at least, only get to live that long by basically abandoning their humanity in pretty horrific ways. Although this is Rin so she might do it anyway.
Hudson James
Not necessarily. He got all of EMIYA's powers, NPs, and skill with Kanshou and Bakuya very very young. He's easily going to be much more effective than the Shirou of the EMIYA route was.
Luke Morris
>Fate Shirou is the one who'll die easily. Fate Shirou is busy outliving all Shirous in Avalon.
Adam Adams
It's Touko made so it is, for all intents and purposes, a natural human body.
Ian Thompson
You do realize Fate Shirou has to die first before going to Avalon
Christopher Thomas
just had a thought, how many servants actually got into the throne without any fantastic help in life? Not many myth heroes as most were blessed and given super weapons. The only ones I can think of that actually were normal human with no special traits like shakespeare and anderson, hell even shirou stil has a leg up on normies due to having circuits and his origin of 'sword'
Jaxon Cox
He was walking and searching "endlessly". He is as good as dead, but he's not. Avalon has that kind of thing.
Joshua Garcia
I can't be fucked looking it up and making a list but off the top of my head Shakespeare, Andersen, Mata Hari, Li Shuwen, Kojirou, Okita, Hijikata and Billy were all just normal dudes who were amazing human beings. I can't remember if Tesla and Edison were magus or knew about magic in life, I know Mozart was a mage.
Anthony Martinez
You're acknowledged for your contribution to human history and establishing or strengthening the human order. Even if your actions were 'evil', whatever help meant they got acknowledged. It doesn't have to do with powers.
The really powerful ones get a crown designation and are elites. The Grand Servants.
Jacob Reed
But Avalon is described as "the city of the dead".
Anthony Reyes
well Li shuwen knew chi which is just a alt name for prana so he had to have magic circuits in nasu.
Christopher Robinson
this is useful
Andrew Fisher
Not in Fate. It's just an island in the center of the soul of the planet where the old ether is stored.
James Jones
In Extra they try to block his chi with prana and other magic blockers and it doesn't work so no.
Aiden Edwards
because you haven't sucked enough cocks
Adam Bell
well according to some nasu nerd chi is prana so I have no fuckign clue at this point.
Jack Ramirez
...
Luke Hill
Gareth-chan when?
Caleb Gomez
As a general rule of thumb, if anyone talking about the Nasuverse doesn't have the quote or citation or screenshot on hand, there's a high change they are full of shit.
I do this all the time, too bad people don't ask for evidence since I would oblige.
Brody Gonzalez
even then a lot of nasu quotes are from unreliable narrators.
Brandon Jackson
What, in the text? I doubt it. There are plenty of untrustworthy people in the setting but Nasu isn't an author who uses unreliable narration.
William Cox
>that stupid nigger asking for shitty english dubs
Juan Brooks
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH?
Jordan Cooper
I did mean in the text, but IIRC nasu is known to hide shit from his fellow writers like narita which forces them to rewrite half a fucking book (dick move)
Bentley Allen
/ShibuyaJannu/ thread.
Owen Gomez
That isn't unreliable narration, it's Nasu just being a dick. I think it was Makoto that had to rewrite half a volume though, not Narita.
