Alternate history borders

Alternate history borders.

Erase borders if you need to. Here's template.

Hard mode: Must be Veeky Forumstorically feasible.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Germany controlling all of Europe :^)

North America if every politically active secessionist movement succeeded.

what about newfoundland?

I once typed a fucking long ass essay on this stupid fucking website and then accidently clicked away like a fucking moron, so instead, I'll give you the short and sweet about something you do not even bloody fucking car about fuck
>circa very early 300 AD
>Sogdian/Bactrian with Schythian diaspora mercernaries confederation
>form rouran khagnate before rouran khagnate
>adopt Manichaesim before Uyghur Khagnate
>expand to pacific ocean just above modern day Vladivostok, reach as far west as Samarkand, as far north as Baykal Ozero, and as far south as China can tolerate

I used this as my source:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America

Although, hey, here's a better one from the site itself.

Soon we shall once again be unified under House Osman.

1950 in a world that never had a World War II for...reasons.

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18 states based on watershed regions;

Find anything wrong.

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Australia still exists

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WE

I support this.

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>Israel still exists

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I live in Idaho. In this case, I'd be in France.

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What do you think of this perfect world ?

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This one time, I did >pic related

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>Rhodesia
>Boer Republiks

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Africa needs fewer countries, not more.

We need to stop entertaining the idea that tiny variations in regional dialects somehow constitute distinct separate cultures deserving of their own country.

I thought up a whole bunch of different stories for how everything happened.

I think there, the Zulu never genocided everybody, so that's how you end up with Lesotho being twice the size, and the Federated States, because when the Brits came, the Boers could work together with the native Sesotho and Zulu.

Although, it would mean that the Boer states would end up being smaller, but still free!

Whites in Rhodesia were able to maintain control, because the Venda had their own country and the Shona were split with the new Zimbabwe on the coast.

>I hate fun
>like, really really hate it

I spent way too much time on this.

I tried to make this as historically plausible as possible.

Changes:
-USA never gets to expand west because of the (now independent, former) French colony and Mexico. Instead, (Luisiana? Quebec?) is the one to reach the West coast of North America and purchase Alaska from the Russians. With no US, Mexico doesn't lose half its territory on its first war. However, both Mexico and (Louisiana? Quebec?) lose some of their eastern territory to the US (mostly for aesthetic purposes), including Florida and the Caribbean (the whole thing, the US is a major Atlantic naval power). Belize, Suriname, Guyana and French Guiane also become part of the United States.

-Latin America doesn't balkanize as much after independence. I tried to respect the boundaries of the viceroyalties, but I kept the FRCA instead of adding it to Mexico because I like the idea of it, plus Mexico is already massive enough to begin with. Gran Colombia is part of FRCA because a) the name still fits b) more unions is exactly what Simon Bolivar would have wanted and c) Panama alone sticking out of Colombia is ridiculous considering the jungle between the two countries. Panama alone joining the FRCA could have worked too.

-The UK breaks up into Ireland, Scotland and England(+Wales). Luxembourg joins Belgium. Croatia joins Slovenia.

-Kaliningrad becomes Polish. However, Belarus becomes part of Russia. The northern Caucasus regions also split of Russia, as does a "Siberian federation". On a related note, I also added Crimea as part of Russia, which isn't reflected on the template map.

-Kosovo is now part of Albania. FYROM is part of Bulgaria and Moldova is part of Romania. On a related note, I added Montenegro to the map.

-The Western Sahara meme stops.

-Greater Syria isn't broken up into a bunch of made up states, and the whole of it becomes part of the United Arab Republic (which survives) with Egypt. Israel doesn't exist, but Jews are a majority in the Palestine region.

-Britain doesn't fuck up the Indian Subcontinent by breaking India up.

-China loses Tibet, Uyghurstan, Inner Mongolia and Manchuria. Inner Mongolia unites with Mongolia.

-Indonesia, Malaysia and Papua New Guinea aren't separate states.

-The Philippines, Taiwan, Korea and Sakhalin are Japanese clay. I don't like the idea of the Philippines being part of Japan, but it's probably what would happen if the US isn't the one to take them from the Spanish. Taiwan and Korea are more straightforward.

Color them in, can't really make things out. Thanks for the autism tho.

I'll see what I can do.

>-Indonesia, Malaysia and Papua New Guinea aren't separate states.
>[JAVANESE IMPERIALISM INTENSIFIES]
Well, that's mean. At least let Papuans go free...

Israel doesn't exist, but Jews are a majority in the Palestine region.
>but Jews are a majority in the Palestine region.
Had me up to there. Those Eastern Europeans don't belong there, send them back.

I colored as much as I could be bothered with. The US, Russia and China are all the same color for shits and giggles, as they're the ones I'm fucking with the most. Also, red is important to all of them.

I colored as much as I could be bothered to color among the things I changed, but I couldn't be bothered to color the changes in Europe or the Northern Caucasus.

I actually figured they'd repel the Japanese by virtue of being united, becoming a competing power in the Pacific.

The Jewish independence movement is the major conflict in the Middle East in this world.

>I colored as much as I could be bothered with.

>I colored as much as I could be bothered to color among the things I changed,

>but I couldn't be bothered to color the changes in...

What the fuck, I'm not even drunk.

Or maybe I really am drunk.

>[JAVANESE IMPERIALISM INTENSIFIES]
>JAVANESE
I dun fucked up. Yeah, that how it'd go, probably.

>Poland still has Stettin

i dont no

>*Poland still has Szczecin

Perhaps someday the leaders of Europe will wake up and realize that the perfect borders have been creates.

You should use a different colour for Aragon and England-Bretagne as it looks like an empire that spams from England to Naples (But that sounds nice too tho)

>partitioning Iran
Absolutely haram.

>Atlantis
>It's not in the Atlantic

You had ONE job...

Mongol's Khan fat and drunk Ogedei doesn't shame his dad's spirit by dying a damn drunk and too early

this leaves Subutai open to conquer the west and capitalizes after he defeats the combined Western European forces at Mohi.

Eventually western Europe is conquered or annihilated and becomes a subject state like that of the Rus princes.

Everyone in the world drinks kumis and praises Tengri.

>Atlantis
>It's not in the Atlantic
Maybe that's why they could never find it...

Utopia tier

>mosquito
What

China still exists.

I think that was British territory. If it exists, the eternal Anglo probably struck again.

It looks like the area the Scots tried to colonise.

>that North America
Beautiful.

Wish I had that

The Mongols took losses and concluded they lacked the means to do more than pillage Poland and Hungary before supplies ran out, further attacks were less successful because the Poles and Hungarians had adapted to their style of warfare. Conquering Europe was unlikely and would have taken years as the conquest of China did.

>The Mosquito Coast, also known as the Miskito Coast, historically comprised an area along the eastern coast of present-day Nicaragua and Honduras. It formed part of the Western Caribbean Zone. It was named after the local Miskito Amerindians and was long dominated by British interests.

Fucking Anglos.

>*Glorious Anglos.
ftfy

>ywn never live in the Independent Republic of Texas

>The name "Miskito" derives from the Miskito-language ethnonym Mískitu, their name for themselves. It is not related to the Spanish word mosquito, which derives from the word mosca, meaning "fly", also used in Spanish for the insect.

What the actual fuck. This is like when I found out "Gaul" and "Gallia" are unrelated words, fuck you language.

Isn't Gallia the Latin form of Gaul?

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>turkey taking back yunanistan
feels güzel man

I got bored, so here it is.

>>Atlantis
>>It's not in the Atlantic

Atlantis was never going to be in the Atlantic, as islands don’t “sink” and even during the worst of the ice age when sea levels are at their lowest, the Azores and/or the Canary Islands (the only options in the Atlantic) are still just a handful of tiny islands.

On the other hand, “Sundaland” in Indonesia was a huge area and due to climatic conditions, would have been pretty comfy with plenty of rivers running into the S.China Sea and a nice place to start an early advanced civilization and when it gets flooded as the planet warms up, the “Atlantean” survivors would have migrated to India and from there, the myth spread to Egypt and onto Greece where the story was altered to place it in the Atlantic (which the Greeks knew about).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland

>manchukou and tibet
>Iran doesn't have afghanistan and azerbaijan
>germany never got POLE'D
>actually keeping the ugly sykes picot borders

>Cascade doesn't reach the OR-CA border and into Idaho
>doesn't even contain all of WA
come on, man

The Empire gets bigger every time you post it

Alternate history map threads are best threads

Kurds stealing armenian land.

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Is this made by an 11 year old autistic Korean? What is this dumb shit?

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you aren't redpilled yet some call the great finnish an korean hyperwar a meme some call it history

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>old tibet
heh

>Argentina is white

WIP
orange is the Republic of Saxony

What's the light purple for Newfoundland represent?

I was originally going to have colonies, but I opted for frontiers and forgot to change Newfoundland.

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>Kurdistan

:'(

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I spent a long time making this, so I'll post it again.

So here the Cuban Missile Crisis goes south and all-out war ensues.

Decades pass and this is all the civilization that is left, so that's all that's shown on the map.

The UK/G and 2USSR are locked in a perpetual state of conflict.

2USSR has problems of it's own on the Eastern front. Thankfully for them, they have allies in the East. They still repel the new fascist state of Japan, however.

The West is all fucked. The UK/G struggles to keep up an alliance with SF while quelling the various independent states across Europe. The DM Zone was agreed upon in order to balance the power distribution on the continent.

The Middle East is made up of GE and GIS, who are locked in an on-going crusade for the whole Middle East. The other nations pay little attention to this.

Imperialism never should have ended.

Military dictatorship America gets Canada, Cuba, Baja California, Costa Rica, Panama, the Philippines, Afghanistan, Aden, Muscat, Qatar, Bahrain, the UAE, Kuwait, Shi'ite Saudi Arabia, Shi'ite Iraq, and is currently colonizing a new homeland for African-Americans in West Africa.

France and Britain get all their old African stuff back, except for the American colony in West Africa. Britain gets back Malaysia, Singapore, and the Empire of India. France gets Indochina again.

Guangzhou, Hong Kong, and Macau unite to form a trade league and become the next Asian tiger economy.

Spain gets Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, and Peru back because they're shitty countries that can't function on their own. Brazil and Portugal reform the United Kingdom of Portugal, the Algarves, and Brazil. Argentina gets Paraguay and Bolivia because Argentina can improve them. Chile stays independent because they're an actually developed nation.

Russia gets the 'stans, Ukraine, and Belarus.

Germany gets nothing because fuck you Germany.

>Spain gets... because...
>precisely those nations were the ones who kicked out the spaniards out of South America
You have to be some kind of shitspeaker.

Yeah, they did kick Spain out. In the 1800s.

But in the 20th and 21st centuries, those countries have all been either socialist hellholes like Venezuela or in a civil war like Colombia or impoverished like Peru and Ecuador.