Engineering Advice resource

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Fellow engineers - I'm looking to create a resource online that advises young engineers on 'soft skills' like Project Management, influence and persuasion, innovation and entrepreneurship. Would this be something you would find useful and potentially even pay money for?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

would this be something you would find useful
no

pay money for?
fuck no

I wouldn't even pay for an employee.
If you are a socially inept engineer, then you sit in the back cubicle and do computational analysis all day.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Important social skill advice: realizing that social skills matter less than leverage in most situations. See also 'the position of fuck you'. Doesn't matter what kind of weird power games coworkers are playing if you have thousands in savings and standing job offers. In that case, you can just respond to drama and power plays by escalating as much as you want, riding it out, and leaving to make money elsewhere if things go south.

farquit
farquit

Useful: yes. You could potentially get lots of readers.

Pay for: I'd say no. But you could just put advertisements on your site

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I don't think it could ever be a membership site unless I ran full on courses. To start out I was thinking along those lines, build up a reader base then try get advertisers or maybe even e-books?

5mileys
5mileys

What if you had an Engineer who wasn't socially inept and could actually bring in work though?

Bidwell
Bidwell

You can't teach soft skills with a book tho

massdebater
massdebater

What if you had an Engineer who wasn't socially inept and could actually bring in work though?

What if you had a pet unicorn that cried tears of liquid gold?

Equally likely scenario.

WebTool
WebTool

Engineer who wasn't socially inept

Then they should be able to learn grow their soft skills on the go. They will go to meetings with more senior project managers and pick it up from there.

kek. it does happen

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

You can teach the principals, you still need to go out an practice to get any better though. Some people aren't even aware they're doing anything wrong.

Nojokur
Nojokur

thats called an mba

thought mba would be mostly finance type A
top 10 mba program is 30% beta af engineers learning how to be socially acceptable
mfw

Illusionz
Illusionz

I would even pay for such kinda info desu, if it's helpful

MPmaster
MPmaster

Honestly this sounds like the engineering equivalent of PUA type bullshit.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Yeh and how many millions got dropped on that?

FastChef
FastChef

Interesting. Did many of them say why they were doing an MBA, was it mostly to change careers or move up in their current one?

Spamalot
Spamalot

There's dozens of self help books on confidence and social skills you can download for free and if you're smart enough to do that then you're smart enough to be able to quickly filter out which parts are useful to you. If you have to pay for this shit you're not only socially inept, you're also clearly a simpleton.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

After about 5-8 years of engineering there are essentially two paths to follow.

1) remain a technical number cruncher
You will never reach your maximum earning potential unless you get to lead a design team of younger engineers. In which case you will slowly get pushed into more awkward social situations that you will not like.
You will always have to deal with younger sharper engineers being smarter than you since you are aging and getting stupider by the second.

2)Management
This could be office management where you non-technically advise the technical team leaders, and choose when to buy new computers, etc. (this is ideal if you are a social fuck-tard, but there are very few positions available, and you need to be charismatic to get promoted)
Or it could be project administration where you are dealing with people from outside your company all day.

cum2soon
cum2soon

can't cure autism, sorry OP.

Inmate
Inmate

Most of the Project Managers at my company started out as technical Engineers.

eGremlin
eGremlin

I'd never pay money for that. Not in a million years

The lessons I have "learned" in soft skills are about shit that is extremely simple.

I say "learned" because I never really had to learn them, they just are obvious.

And the most important lesson among these is that soft "skills" are a MEME. While normies do normie shit like socialize, if you get in them fields and pick cotton you'll actually be productive

In the end, what's important is producing VALUE. not wanking your dick to cuck porn with your little professional tie on and your MBA on the wall

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Finance type A can hang tight in finance. Why go get an MBA unless you're trying to work your way in there or want to do management at a big corporation?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Normies who are actually GOOD at socializing can make a huge income and be massively productive with that skill. Example: play politics right, work your way up at an IB, make 500k/yr while you're bringing in sales. Another: make 200-300k doing exceptionally well in enterprise b2b sales because you bring 10x that in revenue to your company. The normies who aren't actually good are the ones who get trapped in middle management forever and have a relatively useless career

eGremlin
eGremlin

sales

That does not interest me

DeathDog
DeathDog

What sort of Engineering resource would you be willing to pay for then?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

i wonder if anyone ITT other than me is an actual engineer with a real job

you can have soft skills and still be awkward

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

IEEE

Emberburn
Emberburn

CE and EE

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

OP here. I'm an Engineer working in the Oil & Gas industry. What I've found is that people can learn whatever technical skills you need them too pretty fast depending on the project. People who can actually communicate and not instantly piss others off when they express an opinion are rare. Also find that for distinct problems, Engineers are very good at finding the solution, for a large scope with lots of data to manage, they are miserably wasteful and retarded in a commercial sense.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx


While normies do normie shit like socialize, if you get in them fields and pick cotton you'll actually be productive
In the end, what's important is producing VALUE. not wanking your dick to cuck porn with your little professional tie on and your MBA on the wall

I spit my drink l, top kek

Methshot
Methshot

are you me

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

yes, it does happen, they dont stay engineers for long though, quickly go into management or sales, the ones left doing actual engineering are the misanthropes like me.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

yep. the new movie 'The Founder' is an object lesson in the pros and cons of engineering tunnel vision

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