Why do some Japanese people look down on Chinese and Korean people...

>speak french
>born into french culture
>descendants of norse and french women

Sounds French to me m8.

Autism
>you

They were as French as it gets.

>all this people trying to make a guess and think they are right about nations and their people without even knowing them

Same reason northern europeans look down on southern europeans despite getting their entire civilization from them

That's not a carrier.

JP ONRY

what's up with those flags?

I think it had something to do with feudal class systems. Peasants weren't at the bottom, merchants were. If you were a merchant you were seen as dishonourable because you were only allied to yourself and making money. Since alot of koreans and chinese visitors were merchants, they received a lot of disdain from the japanese people who probably felt they were superior. I guess this got ingrained worse and worse until they viewed koreans as subhuman and chinese as inferior, which justified their actions in ww2.

I remember they actually had a word for korean people that means 'dirty' and thats how they were referred to.

Its almost like germany's propaganda against the jewish people but self instigated by the people due to their unusual values and culture.

everybody respect what china used to be
nobody respect china for what it has become: poor, communist, uncultured, and filthy

this here is the correct answer

prime facets of sinicized cultures involve mercenary attitudes as well. taoism/confucianism is more or less a cultural defense mechanism against installed kings from the mongols or other pastoralists, and chinese folk morality is a defense against foreign administrators. for the last 400 years chinese culture has been defined by people trying to resist foreign parasites at every level. the preceding eras were reknown for extremely high levels of societal trust. for example, silver could be shipped with only light guard, for thousands of miles, with notarization and/or receipt.

the japanese didn't understand why the sinics lost this trust. but they did understand it no longer existed, and this was the basis of their disrespect.

Food for thought ITT:

You are all basing your opinions off of 1945 American Propaganda.

>"Japan did not fight a war of aggression. It fought in self-defense. Our children have been wrongly taught that their ancestors did evil things, that their country is evil. We need to give these children back their pride and confidence."

>"Many people, including Kyuma, believe that the atomic bombs stopped Japan's 'aggression,' but Japan did not fight a war of aggression," said Tojo, who claimed the war was fought to liberate the "nonwhite" colonies in Asia from the "whites." "If there was one mistake, however, it was the fact that we lost. And if my grandfather is to blame, it's not because he started the war but because we lost."

On the first Sino-Japanese War.

>As Prussian advisor Major Klemens Meckel put it to the Japanese, Korea was "a dagger pointed at the heart of Japan"

>The Japanese had sent delegations and students around the world to learn and assimilate Western arts and sciences, with the intention of making Japan an equal to the Western powers. Korea continued to try to exclude foreigners, refusing embassies from foreign countries and firing on ships near its shores. At the start of the war, Japan had the benefit of three decades of reform, leaving Korea outdated and vulnerable.

Of course they are cherry picked arguments. But everyone ITT which say it's ingrained racism inside the Japanese are literal, literal retards. I man, you can all cure your ignorance, all you need to do is read unbiased history. These conflicts stretch back many hundreds of years - like with any European nation, we simply do not understand the fullest extent of their conflicts.

>That's not a carrier.

>Large warship with a flight deck running the entire length of the ship.

>Not a carrier

It carries helicopters you dingus.

Its a DDH, a helicopter destroyer.
This is like calling an LHD a "carrier".

An LHD is just a name for a helicopter carrier that also has a well deck for launching amphibious craft.

this is why the japanese invaded korea. this is a geopolitical reason, and I don't disagree with you.

but the japanese DID look down on koreans until they started to assymilate in the late 30's. and there are reasons for WHY they did.

part of why, post war, the japanese continued to look down on koreans was that the koreans ditched the japanese system and adopted american institutions, and it has more or elss worked out poorly for them n comparison.

>but the japanese DID look down on koreans until they started to assymilate in the late 30's. and there are reasons for WHY they did.

That's not the point, almost all peoples looked down on other peoples, usually their neighbours. But that is in no way why they started their wars - that is in no way why they disliked the Koreans, or the Chinese.

Hell you can easily argue that all their hatred started during the first Sino war, China simply backed Korea and Korea was being cuntish to Japan, those things never usually end well. No matter where you are in the world. And obviously the west did not pick Japan.

even south east asians look down on chinese these days

they ruined RTS with their ant like mentality.
>games shouldn't be about fun, they should be all about the APM and mechanical skill of mashing keys.

I didn't read the whole topic, but nothing in OP said anything about "the japanese invaded korea because they hated them." so I'm not sure what you're arguing against

that said, I agree, humans hate each other primarily because of biological imperatives. but that doesn't completely invalidate explanations, such as chinese mercenary attitudes. it's a valid theory, and I think it's highly explanatory of whatever % of the hate the japanese direct towards them that isn't because of our monkey genetics

japanese look down on chinese. ASEAN has a sour grapes attitude towards chinese

>APM is all about mashing random buttons
Mad cause bad.

No skill in this right? youtube.com/watch?v=XZdJ4dReF4A

At some stages he gets 30 actions per second.

Literally first words in this thread.
>why do some Japanese people look down on Chinese and Korean people?

don't forget k-pop "music"

>he mashes buttons like an overexcited chimp, oh wow, truly such skill.
The only reason BW was so fun to watch was because the players were playing against the game as much as they were playing against each other.

Blizzard shat the bed by thinking that they needed to put even more APM sinks in starcaft 2 because they actually made the underlying mechanics of the game more user friendly.

if you're the same poster your posts alternate between really good and really awful

those words say nothing about the war, or the reasons for the war.

I think you are the one being sucked in by propaganda.

Unit 741. The nanjing massacre. Accounts from japanese POW's.
The japanese people's response to losing the war.

These are things that you are choosing to ignore. Yeah western history books downplay the aggression of the west, but it's naive to think they were liberators of asia. They were a race of people who had a superiority complex and one that lived in sustained civil wars for centuries. Aggression and war is something the japanese knew well and the concept of peaceful negotiation with enemies was seen as weak.

Always found it ironic that a country that thought it was superior to every other was actually living in the feudal system for much longer than other world powers.

come on op think its not that hard

>I cannot read between the lines.

Even if that's the case. My posts did. Literally stop at any time you feel like you don't need to embarrass yourself further. You are not even making any points anymore.

You do not understand routing or APM if you think its simply button mashing. I couldn't even care for StarCraft, but you're an idiot. Back to /v/, kiddo.

Japan actually has an extremely short feudal period because they came into feudalism relatively late. you can think of them as similar to norwegians in that respect.

the difference is that they reached and remained in their baroque period for a pretty long time without changing. europe was subject to the dark ages and china was subject to a number of different baroque periods because of the fact that they'd be invaded constantly.

>The japanese people's response to losing the war.
Complete pacification and renouncing war to the degree of making it illegal?
Wow, so bad.

>These are things that you are choosing to ignore. Yeah western history books downplay the aggression of the west,
>choosing to ignore unit 731
Yeah, right? You mean the unit who are free and clear? Because America purchased their research and cleared them of any war crimes? Like they did with German scientists? xD

You understand we would know next to nothing about frostbite, if it were not for them (not justification, but everyone uses their knowledge)

>The nanjing massacre
You mean an event which is only high accounts on Chinese side (certainly NOT propoganda). Again, not justification, but you cannot take values which vary from 50k - > 300k seriously.

>The japanese people's response to losing the war.
They were meant to be happy about losing the war? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>but it's naive to think they were liberators of asia.
Well I just don't know anymore, that highly intelligent response filled with examples and rationale is just too much for my logic to handle. Japs are just racist, thanks user.

you can argue that hate itself is purely a manifestation of political need. that's a valid thesis, but you should make it excplicit. "reading between the lines" is just an exercise in continental style masturbation.

there is a geopolitical incentive for them to have hated sinicized people.

there is also very a very real difference in ethics that occurred in the 1600s as the result of sinic peoples trying to maintain independence under foreign occupation. this influenced their culture for 400 years longer than did the war. it influenced their language, their literature, their philosophy, their view of humanity.

you're just being immature by insisting anyone who doesn't think ww2 was the ONLY influence on chinese-japanese relations is stupid

everything looks like a nail to a carpenter with a hammer. try learning more history, dude

>you're just being immature by insisting anyone who doesn't think ww2 was the ONLY influence on chinese-japanese relations is stupid

Well sure, if you have to put words in my mouth, feel-free.

Because the Japanese are objectively bad. Just look at how fucked up their porn is.

Dogs look so weird without their fur.

Japan is culturally greater than China or Korea.

Im not getting into a pissing contest here.

I dont believe the japanese are racist. That implies that they hate other races purely on racial attributes. I believe they thought all other nations were inferior, regardless of race.

And I didnt realise that all historical events where accounts and descriptions varied are null and should be disregarded.

I admit that chinese and western accounts would be biased, but you think japanese wouldn't?

Also I don't know if it comes across but i fucking love japanese culture and history. Studied the language, history and culture for 10 years, and been there for about 6 months.

I am not trying to slander them, but every country has its own problems and flaws. Japan is no exception.

>I believe they thought all other nations were inferior, regardless of race.
And they did. Much like Americans today. Literally pointless unless you want to utilize it as a war-like ideology.

>And I didnt realise that all historical events where accounts and descriptions varied are null and should be disregarded.

War is fucked, on both sides. Are you aware just how much rape Americans committed on THEIR ALLIES during WWII? Did you know we are only aware of it because files were leaked over 60 years later in 2006? Do you know we have no clue what American war-crimes were committed as they are probably still state-secrets? Did you know American generals have admitted they would have been on trial at Nuremberg for the war-crimes they let happen (we still do not know specifics)

>Japan is no exception.
No, it isn't. It's exactly the same as every other nation out there, they are just on the losing side. That's my point, but people like to express the Japanese as uber-evil racists, when it's simple American propoganda.

>Studied the language, history and culture for 10 years, and been there for about 6 months.
Fair-play? Is it expensive? I've heard it is. Teaching english?

you're talking to people who are unwilling to consider the history of two nations that existed side by side for 2k years with barely any wars, who immediately retreat into their surface knowledge of something that happened 70 years ago and lasted 10 years max.

you're not going to talk logic to them. humans are just machines, they fed garbage in, and you'll only get garbage out of them

japanese and chinese have fundamental differences in terms of ethics and morals. if someone in japan diverges from these morals, THEY ALSO GET HATE. if someone in china diverged from the morals, they used to be left in teh street to starve to death.

but of course, the anons in this thread think the moral system doesn't matter when people INSIDE the countries used to get killed over it, let alone between nations. they point to the only garbage they know from their garbage schooling system, which is ww2 propaganda.

t. a chinese who is learning japanese

Man you sure hate america. Im australian so i dont really pay them any mind. At this point I think the rest of the world treats them as a joke.

I think the japanese still are racist, just definitely not evil. Nicest racists you'll ever meet. I mean, they use their word for 'foreigner' as a derogatory comment and alot of places have a 'no foreigners' policy. But they were also obsessed with western culture for a while so i guess its complicated.

Yeah its not too expensive in terms of food and goods but you pay out the ass for accomodation and travel so it can be pretty expensive if you arent lucky enough to live near where you work.

Yeah i was teaching English; easiest entry level job for a foreigner. This was about 3 years ago now though. The culture is much more isolating than australia's so i decided to come back home.

Kek, care to explain how anything in this post is relevant to this thread? And not just pure anger of other commenting on something which you know nothing about, even though it's directly related to your history?

>the history of two nations that existed side by side for 2k years with barely any wars

Japan and Korea are not "side by side", what?

> if someone in china diverged from the morals, they used to be left in teh street to starve to death.

So exactly like the rest of the world in those times then. Accepting dissention is a relatively new thing in society. Dissenters were always thrown out of society, banished or put in prison.

I honestly have no idea what your point is past being salty.

Txt s

>Man you sure hate america
It's a love and hate relationship. Mainly hate at this stage though since they cut NASA's funding.

> Im australian
QLD here. Best state in the country, I bet you are melb. Or southern Sydney.

I too am looking to teach English but can't find a job in Japan since they mostly want uni students which I am not.

>50円があなたの口座に預金されました

Yeah QLD here too.
I got a teaching degree so that made it easier.

Not sure if there are any work arounds, but best is to have contacts. Start making friends in Japan who can vouch for you. There are a lot of japan-aus groups in universities. Maybe get a job at a uni cleaning or something so you can join one.

>Yeah QLD here too.
Townsville?

>Mainly hate at this stage though since they cut NASA's funding.
Don't need it no mo
Muh private sector

Every nation (if they can afford it) must have a space program, for benefit of all human kind.

Best way is a mix of private and governmental funding.
A "space-industrial complex" or as I like to refer to it "Spic"

japan builds carriers?

hurr read between the lines

That's literally the exact opposite of what I have been saying, but what ever helps you sleep at night bro.

Post your sick ass war photos here boys. I'll start.

Yes. They're very interesting ships in my opinion. They're primarily used for anti-submarine patrols. Japan has a tremendous fear of submarines. (losing half their fleet to subs in WW2 prolly has something to do with it)

OP here. Thanks guys this is what I was hoping to find. I have no idea what the fuck else is going on in my bread though.

Kpop is just an excuse to perform softcore porn shows on stage since actual porn is outlawed.

japanese come from the mainland through korea. are they racist against themselves?

Pretty much. Here is a list of their most recent "movies".

I'm wondering if south korean porn laws have backfired a bit

it worked well enough in china and taiwan.

but korean culture is inherently more indulgent, so that might be the cause of the failure. I dunno man, I speak chink and moon, not gook.

I went to boarding school in beijing and all my male classmates were swapping jav videos they torrented and burned onto dvds. This was around the late 2000.

People will always find ways to get porn.

>I'm wondering if south korean porn laws have backfired a bit

All porn laws backfire, it makes it underground, makes it worse.

Korea have some shocking sex scandals.

>boarding school beijing
jesus christ why. I still don't get this

I lived in the motherland a couple years post-college, and the girlfriends I had at the time would always ask me if they looked like sora aoi, kek. my first guess was that they were kind of skanky, but maybe its just a thing over there? it's a little hard for me to tell, I'm fairly americanized, even though I think more like a chinese, I still feed off of american social cues.

yeah, I'm not sure I agree with this though

I think that like drugs, if it is sufficiently suppressed, things end up better for everyone

these things can spiral out of control, and a weak will is the worst thing that can possibly happen to an administration

now, in america, I live right next to the gun murder capital of america. if you're willing to accept a bad situation, it WILL get worse.

if we're not willing to enact laws to FORCE people to do the right thing, what kinds of laws are we enacting, except for laws to absolve evil people of responsibility?

Just because you do not like it doesn't mean you don't have to watch, or partake in it.

Show me one thing that has been successfully outlawed.

Literally not one singular thing.

problem with things like drugs is that it creates negative externalities and costs, such as raising taxes, funneling money to drug dealers, lowering iqs, raising violence, creating networks of extralegal influence

I can't opt out of society itself. its literally getting to the point where parents are getting sued for pulling their kids out of school districts where tehre are guns. they say "no, you HAVE to partake."

so that's where the harm comes in. and because it ALWAYS comes down to this, it needs to be outlawed and punished harshly/with death.

there are sufficiently few drugs in japan, taiwan, and china that you can consider it successfully outlawed.

if you don't bother to create laws for harmful things, you're simply creating laws to police the good people, or to specifically authorize the behavior of criminals. neither of which is acceptable.

you can create a law to kill murderers, or you can give up and say "well murder is never going to go away, let's give up, and make fighting illegal!" and then the innocent people get punished alongside the violent.

don't be stupid user.

>there are sufficiently few drugs in japan, taiwan, and china that you can consider it successfully outlawed.
No? When you can still get drugs in Japan, China and Taiwan, it's not outlawed - at all. It's just harder to get.

Kek, you just don't like drugs do you? Everything you have said is so highly ignorant.

>creates negative externalities and costs
Goes away if drugs become decriminalized.

>such as raising taxes, funneling money to drug dealers, lowering iqs
Goes away if you make drugs decriminalized.

>raising violence, creating networks of extralegal influence
Goes away if you decriminalize drugs.

>don't be stupid user.
That's you not me. You simply cannot outlaw anything. Human beings are free by nature - you can only create scenarios where people don't need to kill and hope they do not, you cannot stop killing. You cannot stop drug use, you cannot stop anything and making things illegal and punishing for them makes more problems than it solves. In literally all cases.

you're obviously still in high school. it's fine. if murder goes down from 50/10,000 per year to .1/10,000 per year, then it's WORTH doing. if you disagree, you're kind of stupid

drugs are not victimless. if you don't agree, you've obviously never lived around them. you'll figure it out eventually once you have kids.

Japan adopted all those ideas from T'ang China, not from Communist China. There's a reason why they're still in excellent relationships with ROC, but not PRC. The current problem with Korea has more to do with Zainichi Koreans currenty residing in Japan and getting special welfare and shit while being being ungratefuly, if not downright criminal, toward the Japanese government and their citizens.

>all that projection
It's okay. If you can't make any points you should just not post ya'know?

It's funny you bring statistics into it, because in almost all nations with large prisons murder rates rise. You can look at any graph which includes antiquity and there are huge declines (modernization) and then there are steep rises of our "modern" world. In almost all countries.

You are so mad it's not even funny.

>drugs are not victimless
Nowhere did I say it was.

But you understand most of the crimes which revolve around drug addicts are them trying to get more drugs? I would like to see a percentage of drug related crime where the crime is influenced by the drug, and the drug only (psychosis) I bet you my life that number is extremely low. If you decriminalize drugs and you ease access to said drugs, even regulate to an extent - most if not all drug related crime will decrease.

t. Drug Addict living around crack heads who steal all day every day to feed their overly expensive habit due to legal issues.

I don't know why I bothered to reply seriously to a moron who can only use ad hom, though.

you're saying the reason for crime in different areas is due to drug laws?

Literally fuck off if you don't like guns.
Unamerican piece of shit.

I love guns. I hate drugs

naw man. people throw more people in prison when crime increases. it's that simple.

if you group countries by similarity, the countries that punish crime more harshly have less of it. because basic human pschology means that people seek to avoid punishment

no. I'm saying that policies to reduce crime effectively DO exist.

hes' saying there's nothing we can do simply because some crime, in some proportion, will always exist.

we can reduce it to 1/500th the number of what it currently is, though.

>the countries that punish crime more harshly have less of it

It's still there though, all you are doing is being worse. You now understand what I meant by "you cannot stop people killing, all you can do is make scenarios and hope they don't kill". People will always kill, even if it means they too are killed.

>because basic human pschology means that people seek to avoid punishment
Not at all. It's called FIGHT or FLIGHT. Not FLIGHT.

>I hate drugs

There you go, you are just a literal idiot. There is nothing wrong with drugs, what is wrong is the huge punishments which revolve around drugs. youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU. SOng, yes, but the point it makes are highly relevant.

I mean, I've gotten high literally every single day of my adult life, I have never hurt anyone, probably never will. I go to work, I pay taxes. I do everything I am asked to by society, but I like to get a little high. IU should be in jail, next to murderers, next to rapists. Because I like to put a substance in my body. There are cases in England of drug dealers getting longer periods in these prions than some people who abduct people for years.

You create more criminals when you do this.

Seriously, just go smoke a cone after a full days of work and just see how wrong you are.

>drugs are bad!
t. beer and cigarette in hand

>no. I'm saying that policies to reduce crime effectively DO exist.
You are literally wrong, and those stats you are seeing are skewed to fit your agenda. Prisons do not stop crime, the fact you think they do is moronic, to say the least.

The only nations where these are relevant are Asian nations, where they overly punish their criminals in an attempt to stop it, it still hasn't stopped crime though. It makes it worse. See forced drug mules.

and how much would that restrict freedom?

>reducing crime is impossible
leftists, everyone. at least you just finally came out and said it

It's a '''''helicopter destroyer''''', so not technically a carrier but fairly close. The Gommies did the same thing with their Kiev Class

Such is the sentiment of barbaric islanders

Why do ultranationalists of any nation look down on others? All nations owe little or a lot to other nations, but you will always find people who hate them anyway. It's called being stupid.

>The only nations where these are relevant are Asian nations, where they overly punish their criminals in an attempt to stop it, it still hasn't stopped crime though. It makes it worse.
Not in Japan. Crime actually is extremely low there, the "japanese polis are conspiring to hide all crimes" meme notwithstanding. People feel safe. Their idea of a very "dangerous place" within the county is Shinjuku's entertainment districts at night (where at worst you might encounter strange people with strange proposals). Compare this to places all around the world where things are so bad police has to go in like the military if they hope to get in at all.
I do agree that Japan's drug laws are overly harsh, but drugs are stupid and people shouldn't use them anyway. In an ideal world cigs and alcohol would also meet the same fate.

some japanese guy on /int/ said it has to do with backwardness of china and korea

>All those missiles and secondary guns

I feel like they didn't quite understand the point of an aircraft carrier, but it looks very orkish so there is that.

You're mad that the Koreans figured out what your shit genre is actually about?

You might as well be mad at the asshole who solved tic tac toe.

>literally not a carrier

>b-but user, it's a carrier based upon my subjective definition I made up yesterday

>There's a reason why they're still in excellent relationships with ROC,

Oh my, Veeky Forums quality once again.

>Zainichi Koreans

most zainichi koreans are indistinguishable with japanese these days, just like 3rd generation chinese and japanese americans are with each other.

stop your bitching weeab english teacher bitch

Japanese culture is in the process of degenerating and retracting. The people cannot even socialize very well, so it's not all that great.

First you must explain why you think it is not a carrier. Because is very clearly is one. See all those helicopters? The hangar deck below can hold many more as well.

Japan is backwards in its own way ideologically. They still practice archaic rituals from the Tang and Han dynasty and with Shinto as their state religion, it actually prevented them from progressing ideologically.

>people who play games at high levels of skill and dedication don't play for fun
i've never understood why so many people think this

>a carrier that can't launch fixed wing aircraft

Basically like calling a humvee with a mounted machine gun a tank.

It can't defend itself from enemy jets, let alone project its own "air power". It's an amphibious assault ship/submarine hunter at best.

Not a carrier.

It's not my fault if you don't know what a helicopter carrier is.