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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Waiting for Shinobi Edition

Kneed in the head by Raider: veekyforums.com/thread/176145218/video-games

Updated Season 2 Info: Character and Map details
pastebin.com/4qcpMRZK

Patch 1.06: Warden/PK/Shugoki nerfs, Orochi buff
forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-289202-16/

New players:
pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

Multiple hero video guides
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

Wikis:
forhonor.wikia.com
forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

Character damage values
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

Gear modifier values
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

Friends list sign up Doc:
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For those that have signed up:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

War of Factions:
forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

PVP Stat Tracker:
fhtracker.com/

Story mode collectibles:
gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankylosaurus
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youtube.com/watch?v=WkZMKp24l9o
my.mixtape.moe/fubfsu.mp4
veekyforums.com/thread/176292107/video-games

TreeEater
TreeEater

1st for my dick is bigger than yours

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Reminder that the only balanced characters are Warden, Conq and LB.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

This b8 from last thread. Leave it there.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@176216213

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I'm pretty sure the gear modifier values chart in the OP will have to be thrown out soon, what with the coming stat changes in season 2.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

youtube.com/watch?v=FBFC3xC4Tk8

C E N T U R I O N

WILL BE A BETTER KENSEI

Evilember
Evilember

Parry kensei as kensei
What now? A light? Are you fucking serious?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Which faction campaign was the most enjoyable?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Vikings

DeathDog
DeathDog

I just went against a Raider who claimed Raider is worse than Kensei. Is he delusional? Even though my winrate as Kensei is technically better than Raider, I feel like Raider is over all just better. More versatile tools and able to effectively counter Wardens.

Vikangz, then Knights. Samurai was just awful.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Ive been a kensei main since beta and I don't understand what you're talking about. Elaborate?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

It's not b8, it's the truth. Kensei is OP because he's nothing but dash attacks, grabs and heavies. Same deal with the Roach. Shugoki is bullshit because he can just facefuck you through your attacks. Nobushi is broken because there's no way to tell what angle she's attacking from, same applies to PK. They're too fast. Raider is broken bullshit because his heavies have absolutely busted hitboxes that are bigger than they appear, and if you happen to get stunned then that savage viking bastard is just going to molest you and throw you around like a doll. I bet half the faggots in this thread get off to that. Warlord is Conq but way too good, Berserker is also too fucking fast just like Nobushi and PK. Finally Valk, the most busted character ingame. If you somehow manage to dodge her leg sweep she'll just grab you immediately after your dodge and put you back in the loop. None of these characters are fair, and don't fucking spout "lmao git gud" like this is Dark Souls. These characters need to be fixed. You can finally roll out of Warden's shoulderbash + r1 combo, so he's finally balanced. Conq is just slow and weak, and LB is fucking LB. The only reason anyone will defend the Vikings or Samurai is because they're filthy fucking furries or filthy fucking weeaboos.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I think he doesn't know about dash+gb lmao

takes2long
takes2long

@176216680

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@176216680
Just stop, you're not getting any more (you)s

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Depends on what you were looking for. The Knight campaign had plenty of large setpieces and unique locations, and the Vikings had some of the most varied activities and some of the most personality. The Samurai also had a bunch to do, but there were fewer side characters to play as (Ayu vs. Mercy/Holden vs. Stigandr/Runa). The Vikings and Samurai were the biggest power fantasy stories: the Raider singlehandedly rallies all the Vikings under him and sacks the Samurai capital, while the Orochi is constantly talked up and is ultimately the one who brings down Apollyon.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

lmao weebs and savages don't like it when I call them out on their faction's characters being blatantly broken :^)

TechHater
TechHater

play shugo against orochi
guard top
if they zone you get a free gb
if they try to gb they get a light and a headbutt in the face
Is this the answer to roaches plaguing the game?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Pleas explain what weebs and savages characters are broken other than warlord?

iluvmen
iluvmen

knights did fuck all
were just the tutorial
never won a round
dead last season 1

likme
likme

Literally all of them, I just made a detailed post.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Orochi is constantly talked up and is ultimately the one who brings down Apollyon.
I thought that was really weird, Orochi just shows up and wrecks both the Warden and Apollyon like its nothing

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Won the beta and got a stylish as fuck emblem border as a result

Watch your mouth, savage

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

beta kangz and weebs even got cucked out of a silver and bronze version
lmao

JunkTop
JunkTop

Because he's the Emperor's Chosen. If he wasn't in prison for talking shit to the Emperor, the Raider would've never made it to the capital. Also, the Orochi gets to kill Apollyon because it completes the circle of final bosses being someone outside your faction (Warden vs. Gudmundr, Raider vs. Tozen, Orochi vs. Apollyon).

iluvmen
iluvmen

he's
did you just assume the gender of my Orochi

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I stopped playing the story after the first roach mission. Does the roach kill your warden?

JunkTop
JunkTop

no but he fights him

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Conq is better agaisnt them. Their zone gives you a free gb and you don't even have to take damage for it.

SniperGod
SniperGod

tfw no hidden fourth act that unveils itself after you finish the prior 3
tfw huge cast of characters never gets together and does buddycop shit
tfw never gonna see stone hitting on runa
tfw never gonna have a character driven story where these factions that are supposed to hate eachother grow into a competent team
tfw never gonna hunt down apollyon with our task force
tfw never gonna have a 3 part apollyon fight where each phase has you play as a different MC

coulda been great

StonedTime
StonedTime

2/10

you took the time to type it out

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

youtube.com/watch?v=9rs8ISqbWuY

Firespawn
Firespawn

fite me

No. The Orochi and Momiji sneak into Ashfeld to find Apollyon. There, they find the Warden (along with Stone [conqbro], Mercy and Holden) reforming the Iron Legion after deserting the Blackstone Legion. After getting a wounded Momiji to safety, Orochi is forced to confront Warden, who apologizes for what happened and insists he's no longer Blackstone. Orochi doesn't care and whips Warden's ass in a duel but spares him. Warden points Orochi towards The Strond, the home base of the Blackstones.

askme
askme

play kniggers in beta
pick vikings for s1
win both
i must be psychic

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I like how the Roach is toted as the best of the three main characters.

Warden: Dumb idiot who fell for Apollyon's tricks and got bodied by Superior Roach
Raider: Dumb asshole who just likes to steal shit, has no importance on the story as a whole.
Roach: Personal sword to the Emperor, only put in prison for speaking out of turn. Is the greatest swordsman on the planet, and had the honor of killing Apollyon himself.

You should've gotten the choice of which of the main characters got the final fight.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

30fps warden top light can't be parried
but deflecting works 100% of the time if you do it as soon as you see red.
?????????

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

join duel
opponent uses light attacks
leave

just me?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Is Berserker the best assassin? I'm not very good at the game, but I want to try to olay on a higher level, and Im prob gonna use him.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Whats odd is

Main character for Knights is a Vanguard
Main character for Vikings is a Vanguard
Main character for vanguard is a Assassin

Supergrass
Supergrass

Join duel
Opponent doesn't let me win
Screech in anger and break my mouse

Anyone else?

PK is objectively better.

Bidwell
Bidwell

30fps warden top light can't be parried

Yes they can.
t. PS4 Raider main

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

what is it that amkes console unparriable just the fps?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

PK is the best assassin because she can just spam lights at you

HOWEVER, berserker IS good when played by someone capable and becomes literally unparryable

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Tv must be faulty, I can parry everything but warden top light.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Agreed.

Honestly, I really didn't like the Samurai segment of the campaign. You were forced to play as Roach almost the whole time, and they made their character such an unbelievable Mary Sue. I honestly think you should've played as Ayu, maybe with breaks to play as Roach/Momiji/Shug dude (just like how both of the other stories had breaks for Holden/Mercy/Stigandr/Runa).

girlDog
girlDog

30fps means less frames and less time to react
There was a 60fps webm of nobushi top light and you practically had a entire second to see the warning.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

have you got it set to game mode?

Skullbone
Skullbone

alright imma try 30 on my pc

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

If you're on PS4, feel free to open the browser and find some online reaction time test. Human Benchmark is pretty inconsistent, but it can at least give you an idea of how much delay you're playing with.

Make sure your TV is set to Game Mode, and use a wired controller if you have one.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

30fps means less frames and less time to react

That is not how FPS works you goober.

likme
likme

1 frame is like, 33ms on console, that's a negligible difference when a move is 500ms, and average human reaction time is 250-270ms

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Raider: Dumb asshole who just likes to steal shit, has no importance on the story as a whole.
Raider successfully sacking the samurai capital is why Ayu and company busted Orochi out of prison.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I'll amend that then.
Raider: Dumb asshole who only serves as a catalyst for the much better, stronger, and all around cooler actual Main Character's story, the Roach.
The fact that Warden comes back, but Raider just dies on the way back to his home planet is dumb.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

As a player who has mained both, I can confirm this. PK is much easier to play though. You really don't even have to feints a a PK against most players. Just lol light ZA side dash to victory.

They should seriously just delete PK. What a fucking skillless class.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Raider was the single most important character in apollyon's plans, bro.

5mileys
5mileys

Nah, Raider leads the Viking charge into the Strand while Apollyon is gloating immediately after Orochi mortally wounds her.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Does anyone have trouble against the fucking Warlord? I swear to god he's so fucking annoying. It seems almost impossible to not get rushed down by him. Plus his attacks feel on par with PK, I'm so heated because of this character.

FastChef
FastChef

Does anyone have trouble against the fucking Warlord?

The entire community, yes.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

speak for yourself scrub

SniperGod
SniperGod

This is my theory (I didn't get all the breakables and shit so someone might be able to counter what i say). Remember in the knights story, they were about to execute that Raider? Then Apollyon says nah, lets make him ours. Then in the Viking's story the Warborn Raider "mysteriously" returns to unite the Vikings. Maybe the other Raider and Zerker knew about him defecting and that's why they recognized him. They take back the ship yard that "Just so happens" to have Samurai loot on the ships? And then the Raider tells all the vikings they should raid the Samurai instead of getting revenge on the Knights. Perhaps Apollyon knew what may happen and then told the Raider to attack the blackstone legion's main base if it was being sacked, thus explaining why the Vikings came back at the end. Meanwhile the Vikings all just thought it was for revenge. Raider was the most important character in the game, because he started all the wars for Apollyon.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I only recently picked the game up again. So I'm out of the loop on the current hate train.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Fuck you.

Warlord has an overloaded kit and is a nightmare in 4v4.

iluvmen
iluvmen

shooting star memes are shit but i liked this

i guess it was no UI cause it was staged? or is this guy just an absolute madslav?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I mainly play duel. I fucking feel like I can't punish ANYTHING, on top of his head but giving an unblockable stab. I'm shit because i'm still a newer player but fuck me man. It feels like I'm fighting a wall.

WebTool
WebTool

join duel
opponent blocks
leave

just me?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

join duel
realize i accidentally misclicked when I wanted a brawl
leave

just me?

JunkTop
JunkTop

i noticed a big difference when i played on my friends pc

SniperWish
SniperWish

If you have the season pass, do you get the new characters tomorrow? I heard they get them a week early.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

This actually happens to me sometimes.

massdebater
massdebater

No, you get them on the 16th.

The season pass isn't to get the characters a week early, its to not get the characters a week late.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

wired controller if you have one.

top meme

ds4 has more lag when wired

happy_sad
happy_sad

Oh I see. The wording made it sound like everyone gets them on the 16th and the people with passes get them the 9th. Thanks for clearing that up.

FastChef
FastChef

No we get them on the 16th everyone else gets them on the 23rd

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

wait what

Does this explain why when I a feint with a DS4 on PC my feints always go overhead?

Spamalot
Spamalot

get knocked down
get guard broken again while im still on the floor
thrown off ledge
what is this shit

Lunatick
Lunatick

its not a big difference at all but theres been extensive testing done and theres lag

Methshot
Methshot

Body someone all round.
They run to a ledge.
Constantly try to guardbreak me.
Miss ONCE
They win.
Mfw
There should be NO ledges in duel or brawl.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Nah, the Raider Apollyon freed was Ragnar.

You can tell because of the helmet.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

don't miss

Lunatick
Lunatick

playing brawl
teammate doesnt help me once hes finished his duel
How is it possible for like 75% of For Honors players to be this autistic

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

chase my opponent to a location of his choosing
fight him on his terms
make a mistake
die

thats not my fault!!! sooooo unfair REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

This is what's wrong with the community

idontknow
idontknow

veekyforums.com/thread/176145218/video-games
mouth retardedly protruding from the face and 10 miles away from the chin

Disgusting

MPmaster
MPmaster

Duel
both of us on 2 wins
Try my best not to use the raider gb charge
other guy isn't spamming warden vortex
my attack sends him off a ledge anyways
"Fkin noob"
I'm so sorry

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

sorry for what?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

there is no honor in losing user.

There also is no honor in watching your team mates die

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

kick kick kick kick stab

gg lotta skill spamming kick you fucking cunt

takes2long
takes2long

Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our ledging

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Anyone else find it hard to enjoy this game anymore?
Its just gank after gank, and duel and brawl are the same knigger wardens and lawbringers that never attack.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

since it's such a great fall and all

Soft_member
Soft_member

im pretty sure she also explicitly stated at one point that it was ragnar

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

we're not having this argument again

in brawl >honor is fine as long as you don't keep it up when your opponents play >dishonorably

Emberburn
Emberburn

hmmm

your daddy gave you some good advice

my dad taught me a few things too, like how to get out of a warden vortex by just rolling away brah

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

what are you playing next season

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Playing Dominion as Law
Notice the Raider and me on our team carrying
Take back point A with Raider bro
emote spam after winning a 2v4
Game ends and and instantly disconnects us
Re-que Dominion
Same Raider on my team again
We sort of just group up and begin roaming the map to together
Fucking saves my ass from being ledged by picking them guy up and running him off
I save his ass right after my impaling someone off the edge
Emote spam
Get friend request from Raider
End up playing for the next 5 hours with him

Why is it that certain classes attract bro players? This is what makes the game great

Snarelure
Snarelure

could you show me?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Centurion, valk and femshinobi

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I meant faction, doofus

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Why is Wardens top light so fucking frustrating when its not any faster than other top lights

WebTool
WebTool

You will never see Femraider sexually dominate Nobushi

Nojokur
Nojokur

`bro classes` is a myth

nearly every single person who plays this game is a giant faggot, yes including raiders, lawbringers, and kenseis

there is a .0001% chance for any class that you will bump into a `bro`, but this is more easily expressed by characters with teamwork skills like raider or lb in your story

I guarantee you`ve played alongside `bros` of many other classes- yes, even roaches and wardens- but their class doesn`t have the capacity for `bro` behaviour as you`ve described

tl;dr: `bros` are spread out through the classes, some are just more obvious than others

although i think we can all agree that 100% of PKs are definitively shitter children

nice story though anyway user, I liked it

RavySnake
RavySnake

1v1
Am a Rep 2 Law
Facing a Rep 21 Kensei.
He bodies me for two rounds.
Manage to edge out a win.
Then another.
The a third...
He says good game.
Mfw
This had to be charity. There's no fucking way my trash Law could stand to a Rep 21 Kensei.

WebTool
WebTool

Knights still, even if every loser jumps ship or joins back, since I love my emblem, dork

Illusionz
Illusionz

Find a rep 14 Warden with 108gs
Ohboyherewego
He actually just do top light and zone attack
The only other thing he ever try is a very rare shoulderbash into gb

What even

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Because you're bad?

Orochi has probably the most bothersome top light, because its parry window makes no sense, it does top heavy damage, and it's among the fastest attacks in the game.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I had a friendly Valk sweep me off an edge 5 times in one match
Would fucking do two light for no reason and then sweep

But yes, PK's are a 100% shitter
Sometimes you find great 'bro' players, but for cancer classes, they tend to be the people who don't know what makes them cancer. The most bro warden I had ever known almost never used Shoulder bash

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

knights still
pick vikings for s1

Lunatick
Lunatick

rep doesn't mean shit user

Techpill
Techpill

an anime loser who wears literal wood for armor
beating a knight who wears plate and mail with a big ass sword

At least Stone and Cross don't die.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I'D BE RIGHT HAPPY TO

Inmate
Inmate

When he goes full defensive, nothing can beat him. Even PK.

t. pk main

DeathDog
DeathDog

I wasn't a Kang s1 doe. but I was at least happy they beat out the weebs in the end. Genuinely disheartened we didn't win the last round to tie everything

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Zerker really rips me a new one, I take it the key to beating them is to just rarely try and parry them?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Most players have patterns. The key to beating Berzerker is to not parry until you have their pattern figured out.

StonedTime
StonedTime

youtube.com/watch?v=jETgDKRUlgc

Evilember
Evilember

Legion playing Warden

Fuck I love this.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

n0tal3nt

JunkTop
JunkTop

He thinks law bringer gets a 50/50 off of shove and that it's unreactable

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Wardens have 33/33/33 when running with their run attack, zone and gb
Maybe even 25/25/25/25 with a top light, too.

Nojokur
Nojokur

is there anyone Legion hasn't annoyed?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

no, because then they will feint into a gb or something

use lots of light attacks and you might have an easier time, breaking their rhythm helps a lot

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Some one is fienting
Decide to let it rip with a raw heavy
They GB me out of it

This shit is fucking lame.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Every time a Warden starts prepping his shoulder bash, it can be:

A regular shoulder bash into double light
A regular shoulder bash into grab
A cancel shoulder bash into grab
A cancel shoulder bash into parry
A powered shoulder bash into heavy
A cancel shoulder bash into light/zone

The cancels aren't so bad now, but fuck.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Where can I find gameplay of legion? Does he stream? All I find are videos of other player fighting him, and getting mad.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

isn't shove an unblockable light?

no, it's just
raw shoulder
shoulder cancel into GB(to beat dodges)
shoulder cancel into parry(to beat side dash attacks/fast lights)

hairygrape
hairygrape

isn't raider able to completely shut down warden's 50/50?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Yeah the "Nerf" really didn't do any good. What it needs to be is they can't automatically start it after a shoulder bash connects, it's just not fair, and they need to realize that. Hell, if a warden is too close to me there's nothing I can do to try to stop it.
Raider main

Flameblow
Flameblow

The light can be reaction dodged and deflected. If you go against a half-decent Orochi or Zerker, then using the shove after block is asking to die. When I play Raider against Lawbringers, I try specifically to bait out the shove from block so I can safely dodge it and get a free grab.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

So why did they keep attack and defence stats on gear?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Dodging Warden's shoulder is really inconsistent and weird. Sometimes it just magnet tracks you and you get hit anyway. In theory he shuts Warden down 100%, but in practice it's not quite so simple.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

It's a reactable light that you can dodge.
It's a 50/50 if he will run attack or zone, why would he gb? Why would it ever hit are you trying to dodge something? Or parry an attack before it comes out?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Raider is 100% immune to wardens vortex though.

idontknow
idontknow

Should be but I can't really tech out of GB when dodging. GB works on me like 1 out of 30 times but every time I try to tech it as Raider during a dodge, shit won't work.

Evilember
Evilember

How to fix warden: Make shoulder bash cost more stamina and double if canceled. If they let it fly, takes about 1/3 total. Cancel takes 2/3.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I don't -think- he make videos or is a twitch whore, he's just some regular bloke who happens to be a nightmare

Illusionz
Illusionz

Do you not realize that you can GB someone if they're starting up a heavy? He has a fucking 33/33/33 mix up at a minimum when running? That gb is guaranteed if your target dodged?

Lunatick
Lunatick

literally who

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Goddam 108 Warlord is swag as fuck

Bidwell
Bidwell

Warden enters shoulderbash stance
I'll dodge it now!
By the time I realize he's not releasing it, he's already in uninterruptible stance and he can easily react to an obvious GB.
Eat a top heavy.

Yes, 100% immune.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Wearing multiple pieces of the same set
Wearing an ENTIRE set
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

happy_sad
happy_sad

slow the game down significantly by nerfing one of the only fair offensive tools
no thanks

why would you start up a heavy if a warden is running at you? trying to parry a zone or running attack is asking to get hit

i have rep 9 warden and have never had a fully charged shoulder track a side dodge

idontknow
idontknow

Why the fuck would you start up a heavy against a running warden? Why would you dodge? Are you retarted? He can only run attack wich is parryable or zone which you can block and get a gb. It's just a mix up of which he will do. He can't cancel his zone or run attack into a gb.

farquit
farquit

If only you also have a dodge attack as well as a dodge gb counter.

Illusionz
Illusionz

campaign orochi beats campaign warden

That would not have happened if I was playing the warden.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Some random guy who's really good and fucks up tournament whores. Apparently he doesn't record his gameplay.

Emberfire
Emberfire

my.mixtape.moe/cpagrk.webm

TechHater
TechHater

It really isn't, even if i dodge and GB, by the time i do it, the SB is released and it's like a fucking heat seeking missile. Lights don't do anything, fucking tried that already. The SB is too fast to get out of by the time the vortex is already happening, because of stagger from the double light.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

i have rep 9 warden and have never had a fully charged shoulder track a side dodge

I remember a guy in this very thread posting a webm of himself playing Warden and having his heavy shoulder track someone through a dodge.

Illusionz
Illusionz

running attack parryable.
thinking that any normal person is good enough to move block fast enough to protect versus a zone or running one.

Do you not realize how fast running attack is?

idontknow
idontknow

can you explain? I'm rep 0 level 12 with conq, I don't know how to be good with him.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

my shit doesn't stink because there's other shit that stinks too

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Tourney player who can bend the game over his knee and make it do stuff it shouldn't

Methshot
Methshot

By the time it goes off he's in uninterruptible stance, which is not affect by either of those.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

not quite, but sidedash > GB is unless the warden cancels shoulder > top light to beat the GB

please post it, i'd be VERY curious to see

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

he dodged way too late and too early at the same time, at the time he dodged he would not be able to tech a gb or do another to avoid lvl3

happy_sad
happy_sad

That's why it's a mix up of which one he will do, just block it if he actually does mix them up, but a warden who's only doing running attacks is pretty easy to parry. But he can't gb you unless you're back dashing away like an out of stamina pk.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The warlord is crack so it's okay for the vortex to have so many option even a luxury car can't reach up to it

This nigga dumb

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Blocking heavy attacks makes you able to guardbreak enemies without anything they can do. Roach ZA counts as one.

5mileys
5mileys

So what you're saying is that it's okay for warden to have TWO vortexes.

Okay.

Snarelure
Snarelure

This is it

The Raider is at fault, but at the same time it's ridiculous how Warden fucking spins on the spot to hit his opponent like that.

Evilember
Evilember

Warlord literally has everything. Every strong piece of kit other classes have he also has. Not to mention he has some of the best feats in the game. You have to be a better player and you have to work twice as hard to kill a warlord.

DeathDog
DeathDog

yeah, truetalent is fucking retarded, he has been spewing his made up ideas from the release, even claiming that Pk is perfectly balanced and not even that strong

happy_sad
happy_sad

It's happened to me plenty for the both of us m8

Methnerd
Methnerd

rep 2
what the FUCK

wasn't this fixed in 1.06? wardens can't cancel shoulder super late anymore

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

dude that shoulderbash pivoted so hard it puts a dyson vac to shame

it should turn a tiny bit, not 90 degrees like it does in the webm. retarded

girlDog
girlDog

Get yourself some distance. Zerker isn't great at closing a gap. Need to be up in your face to play games with you. Keep backing up will fuck their rhythm, if they try to close with a leaping attack they can't feint and you can punish super hard.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Be a causal shitter
Always match up against 108 faggots while team is like us.
They get revenge and become unkillable gods who barely get tickled for damage.
Get Revenge.
Half of armor goes away in single top heavy because max attack and have no decent gear.

I'm just glad that I'm the host of these kind of matches usually.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It's not a very good mix up since it only has 2 possiblities and they can both be blocked. By that logic almost everyone has a "vortex"

Firespawn
Firespawn

Warden

Shoulder Bash cancel timing into Guard Break reduced to 300ms before end of startup (from 100ms before end of startup).
Uninterruptible Stance timing on fully-charged Shoulder Bash startup reduced by 100ms in order to match the revised Guard Break cancel timing.
Cancelling Shoulder Bash into Idle now causes a 200ms recovery with no defense (Wardens used to cancel out of Shoulder Bash instantly into Idle).
The fully-charged visual and audio effects, will now only play once the cancel window is closed.
Non-charged Shoulder Bash recovery on Miss increased to 800ms (from 700ms)
[Bug Fix] Fixed an issue causing the Warden to spin around on hit with Shoulder Bash
[Bug Fix] Shoulder Bash ability to bump external target no longer overlaps with locked target

Developer comments: Warden’s Shoulder Bash was cancellable by Guard Break very late, allowing Wardens to wait for the enemy to dodge and then get a free Guard Break. We want Wardens to put a lot of pressure on their opponent with this move, but we don't want them to have such an advantage that they can force a response, react to the response, and punish the response. Now, the opponent can wait to dodge the Shoulder Bash until after it could still be cancelled into a Guard Break, but that window is intentionally very short to try to force players to have to make a read on each other, rather than simply reacting. Wardens still have a lot of power to choose what to do after initiating Shoulder Bash, but will have to commit more.

SniperWish
SniperWish

yeah, so you can't break the game by canceling it mega late, as even a feint will have a 200ms recovery

i don't understand what "Uninterruptible Stance timing on fully-charged Shoulder Bash startup reduced by 100ms in order to match the revised Guard Break cancel timing." means though

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I think it means "shoulder charges 100ms faster" in layman's terms?

Skullbone
Skullbone

das cute

Flameblow
Flameblow

Do reaction test on my PC monitor
270
Try it in my TV I play on
450

Jesus fucking Christ, no wonder fast attack feel insane on the console version. I'm playing with nearly 200ms less to react.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

oh fully charged shoulder charges 100ms faster, you're right

fuck don't they try to speak english?

i've heard this is a huge problem as well

RumChicken
RumChicken

Has anyone gotten their honor yet or are you still playing for it?

massdebater
massdebater

lets do this

Flameblow
Flameblow

FUCK OFF LEGION

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I can't speak for the other guy, but I am not Legion.

Supergrass
Supergrass

t. praise

Supergrass
Supergrass

playing on realistic
get to this fight
'haha swordsman of the emporer desu, get ready to eat grorius nippon steel gaijin'
campaign warden immediately vortexes me into a geyser for the one hit

I had to laugh

eGremlin
eGremlin

You should've gotten the choice of which of the main characters got the final fight.

Agreed, but if a Samurai had to end Apollyon, it shoulda been Ayu. Would've been a neat full-circle thing.

Apollyon mentions in an observable about how Ayu is essentially a wolf in denial; she's utterly ruthless and merciless when hunting down the other Daimyo, but insists it's for a greater purpose
Final fight would've been a cheesy but cool "we're more alike than you realize" dialogue between Apollyon and Ayu

And I still think Ranja should've been the Daimyo to take the throne, not Seijuro

Ranja is described as pious and ambitious, using her piety as an excuse for past actions
Ranja would've taken the throne to train the Dawn Empire for a war against the dirty gajin
Even after she is defeated and made a general in Ayu's empire, she would've jumped on the opportunity for a holy war against the knights and kangz, even before the kangz showed up at the end.

idontknow
idontknow

we r legion

expecc

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

The cast of the Samurai campaign would've made so much more sense if every Roach was a Kensei, and vice versa.

Imperial assassins holding more rank than literal warrior-generals

Emberfire
Emberfire

I don't even care about tourney or competitive gaming in general, personally I think esport is a fucking joke, and that even more so in For Honor where the balance is all over the place, but really I'd be lying if I was saying Legion isn't strong as fuck.
A giant scumbag, but strong.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Havent been on /fgh/ for a month, hit me with all your sickest memes

girlDog
girlDog

Valkyrie will never choose to fight for your right to enter Valhalla

Booteefool
Booteefool

save this without thinking cause its funny
FBI raids my house

ffs

likme
likme

zerker will always fight for your right to paaaaartay

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Do decent enough in duels.
Get Shitstomped in Dominion

Lunatick
Lunatick

G E A R

askme
askme

git good

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Can parry lights on reaction against PKs and Valks in duels for sick AD MORTEMS
Try that shit in Dominion.
Always get attacked by another person during the animation.
Mfw

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

tfw snipin' bitches with my bow in elimination
Haha dodge this you fucking snownigger

takes2long
takes2long

i thought vikings won beta, wtf?

I was even on the winning team..

farquit
farquit

imagine oberyon(whatever his name is) vs the mountain, in game of thrones

Oberyon was whooping his ass over and over, ended up getting cocky and thinking he outskilled his opponent, then let one mistake slip and paid with his life

Methnerd
Methnerd

youtube.com/watch?v=O3XyDLbaUmU

vs lv.3 orochi bot

Evilember
Evilember

Probably not.

As soon as you figure out a Kensei's playstyle, they become super easy to fight. I've had tons of duels go like that on my Rep 7. Have no gaurenteed openers so they have to go all out round one and reveal all their tricks

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yumi

What is this? A longbow for children?

whereismyname
whereismyname

smug printposting

this has potential

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

i thought they were gonna fight

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Surprise surprise, you can be a duel god, but all that skill matters shit for dick if you don't have any battlefield sense. Kinda how it works in reality too.

Gotta learn how to handle distractions and that third or fourth man in the ring if you want to be truly gud.

Flameblow
Flameblow

that green bean cut

should have made them fight to the death desu (typed)

Inmate
Inmate

A single comment with 4k likes and nothing else
What

Playboyize
Playboyize

Fighting a Nobushi
On three lights in a row my character starts the parry animation but gets hit anyway
Die to a zone that goes straight through my guard

Did I just get unlock tech'd?

Emberfire
Emberfire

This is why I like Dom over duels, or even Brawl over duels.

Any faggot can participate and do well in a staring contest by turtling, but you can't turtle when there's four Conq's bashing your shit in

SniperWish
SniperWish

same, I use duel and brawls to learn new chars or practice stuff

You cant turtle at all in Dominion because you could be kill that fucker quick and do something more useful

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Savages
Had fire arms while Japs still used bows

Makes you go hmm.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

battlefield sense
It's more due to, I'm just unable to parry lights in Dominion for fuck all reason. Maybe more people just means slight extra lag and none of my characters actually have gear score of 40+

Also having braindead partners help alot. You can have score of 900 and be killing people left and right and 2v1, but still lose because entire team just heavy spammed one guy with 1 bar of health and kept giving him free revenge.

King_Martha
King_Martha

How

Are you on fucking Adderall

WebTool
WebTool

ah birdlord

good to see you

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

hes on admorterral

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

He's just a liar, watch any of the best players play and they all still fuck up light parries all the time.

5mileys
5mileys

Not him but on PC, Valks are entirely parryable and not that hard to fight. Though I personally have trouble against pk's. Still, I can parry most of their lights if it's a level 3 bot.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I love seeing high rep disruption characters, because they just kick the shit out of the guy in 2v1s and dont let him even perform an action

viagrandad
viagrandad

Law constantly backpedalling and throwing out nothing but heavies
Playing raider so I can't even get a light off of parrying him
He just keeps doing it because I can't punish him and he just needs me to miss a parry to do damage

Wow, that was ass.

WebTool
WebTool

I don't care what anyone says. High Rep, Shugoki,LB and Valk are most annoying to fight in any 1vX situation. These characters are clearly more catered towards Dom modes instead of duels and literally fuck up the other side if you're good at ganking.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I spent like an hour in a custom match with no damage on parrying lights from both PK and Valk because I had so much trouble with them. Now I can get Valks almost every time and PKs most of the time, they're a bit tougher though.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Wait until you fight a nobushi pulling that shit with unlocked zones thrown in. It gets ridiculous.

Speaking of though, I know they said they were working in fixing the unlock stuff, but how will they fix unlock nobushi zones attack speed increase?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Ya valks are ez af. I only struggle against flickering pks

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

If warden was an animal, what animal would they be?

What about Conq, Peacekeeper, and Lawbringer?

WebTool
WebTool

They won't they'll just make unlock attacks parryable.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Warden: Dog

Conq: Elephant

PK: Rat

LB: Crocodile

MPmaster
MPmaster

A lion or a bird based of his cosmetics

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

the nobushi zone seems more like a clever use of game mechanics than an exploit (and certainly not a bug). Zone starts from your right, so just unlock and turn 90 degrees left - nothing isn't working as intended.
Not to say it might not need a nerf.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Nobushi having a faster zone than pk with a heavies damage is fine

Nope.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Warden would be a Hawk or Eagle
Conq would be a Bull
PK is a Snake
Law is a Lion

hairygrape
hairygrape

like I said, potentially unbalanced, but not an exploit.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Warden would either be a lion, or a Gryphon. (Nobility and honor, sworn to protect the weak yadda yadda)

I can see Law as an eagle. (MURICA)

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Unlocking to speed up attacks is exploitative as fuck.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Conq
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankylosaurus

This thing. Especially because he's extinct now

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Warden: Gray wolf - Native of Italy, usually symbolic of protection in European folklore.

Conqueror: Badger - Native all around the UK, they are stocky, dangerous fuckers. And mean.

Peacekeeper: Likely a fox, or maybe a stoat or ermine

Lawbringer: Lion, no question.

Techpill
Techpill

but that's the thing, the attack attack isn't sped up. If it changed the animation I'd call it an exploit, but it's only changing the angle. A lawbringer could do the same thing and it wouldn't be an exploit (but would obviously be less effective since it's slower)

SniperWish
SniperWish

feeling the need to link the wiki page

nigga who doesn't know what an ankylosauraus is. we're the generation that grew up readin dinosaur books and playing with plastic ones

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Especially because he's extinct now
Ouch

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Play Dominion.
Get to C Point and capture and defend it.
Look at score 1 minute later.
We have 300 and they are at 780
One of their Kensei is entire up our soldier lane till spawn point,
One Conq is killing 3 of my team mates up at other point.
Uninstall.exe

Skullbone
Skullbone

just got to play those objectives

SniperGod
SniperGod

for what purpose?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Tell me about it, I'm a rep 18 conq main. Gotta face facts though
You probably weren't even born when Jurassic park came out for all i know. This is Veeky Forums m8

Supergrass
Supergrass

It means that the hyper armor from a fully charged shoulderbash comes up sooner
They did this because they chanhed the timing of Warden being able to cancel into a guardbreak
This does not mean shoulder comes out faster

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

someone please tell me how to fight conqs

They just shieldbash constantly and im playing shug you cant attack and dodge at the same time

Emberburn
Emberburn

It just annoys me so much when my team is just 3 assassins and I'm there as hybrid trying to do my best to kill everyone and capture points and keep soldier lane ours, but 3 roaches gotta run everwhere and just keep doing top heavy until they die.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Let your armor eat the bash. Press GB, swing for the fences. Or throw him at any nearby wall and break his back

Shugo is a hard ass match up for conq

TreeEater
TreeEater

lol no its the opposite

shug cant do anything to conq if he plays passive, conq blocks a light he can gb a remove your armor

Snarelure
Snarelure

Exactly what said

Your job is to just wait for your super armor, then do a trade with him. In the meanwhile, take it slowly and dont dodge until the moment you see the unblockable symbol

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

If i have 18 k steel right now, and the new guys release is the 23rd, can I afford to buy the butterfly effect for my roach or will be short of the 30 k i need on the 23rd?

I do all the contracts but the friend ones because I have no friends, then duel.

eGremlin
eGremlin

You should buy the season pass because it's actually good value.
Also consider joining a group because 4v4 modes give you like 50st per game instead of like the 10 you get from Duels.

Long term you'll notice a difference, especially if you have champ status and play more than just your orders per day.

Firespawn
Firespawn

mech samurai character when???

askme
askme

$40 for add-ons to a broken game.
The game itself should've been $40

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

is there an active pc group for fhg? because everyone I have added from here has been autistic as fuck

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

still have to get out of duel menu and re enter when opponent leaves instead of just continously looking for opponents
thanks ubi

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Game has like only 2800 Active Player on steam currently. Which is like 200 more than current SoTFS players.
Even if you go with more people on UPlay no one gives a shit about community if they got it from there.

Why the fuck did they removed "Active Players" from Social option?

askme
askme

Because actually showing how quickly the game was dying would've just made more people leave

Techpill
Techpill

I'm not playing 40 dollaridoos to save 90k Steel, friend, I already barely have stuff I wanna spend Steel on

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

buy your butterflies if you want them, with season 2 you get 12 days free champion status, and matches (of all kind) will give more steel rewards. you'll have the steel for the new chars in no time.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Wait, Season 2 will give more Steel?

Where'd you get that?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

they said they're increasing steel rewards overall, and all XP gain by 25% in season 2

WebTool
WebTool

Didn't they increase Steel intake already?

Evilember
Evilember

they might have, I forget.

girlDog
girlDog

they upped steel rewards from orders

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

So, assuming they have, do we still get another increase in Steel for S2?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Is Valk supposed to push Zerkers shit in, or am I just that bad?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

You're on console.

Playboyize
Playboyize

she can attack faster then your recovery time

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

they upped it by 10% recently, i think, but in the last warriors den they said they would further increase it so leveling up your characters goes faster.

they said they assumed people would level their characters alot more and faster than they actually did, thats why they decided to increase everything to speed up the process.

Lunatick
Lunatick

no.

hairygrape
hairygrape

How much will the Centurion and Shinobi costi n Steel?

Booteefool
Booteefool

15K

Read the OP

iluvmen
iluvmen

good goy

cum2soon
cum2soon

What does Steel have to do with leveling up?

And did they mention how much they're increasing the Steel gains?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

God I fucking hope Berserker gets some rad looking gear in Season 2, i'm starting to prefer playing Berserker over Kensei, they're so similar

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

get killed by arrow
2-2 final round
same guy kills me with another arrow

Ok 80 dmg sure. I rage quit in hopes that it would crash the game

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

so is the game literally eating inputs now on pc?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I hope the new gear isn't as dissapointing as lawbringers but I know it is.

Illusionz
Illusionz

if you switch between views when dead in 4v4s you can see characters in T pose
heh

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

what?

iluvmen
iluvmen

for some reason i cant change directions properly after a hit anymore
for some reason i cant tech a GB after i get blocked anymore
for some reason i cant dodge hits anymore because they trace

what a great game ubisoft. I thought you were fixing it in the last few months but it seems you just keep breaking it more and more.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Zerker gets a spiked variant armor with no new changes aside from the spikes

The mask is now tan instead of black

Screencap this.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

please help me remove input problems on pc

idontknow
idontknow

accidentally pressing back and GB at the same time
AD MORTEM
or demons embrace & die in the animation

Also fun
panic in the middle of a fight and open every menu available and some you forgot about

Evilember
Evilember

I prefer Zerker lower level gear

I use Procyon set mostly since it is pretty much a tuned up blonde version of the base gear. I keep my weapon parts in the grey-blue range because the purps look too flashy.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

can I please have a map other than high fort
I like it, I just don't like it enough to have it every other match

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

captains fucking ruin skirmish. what a dumb fucking addition. why are they even there? just had one run up to me and gb me mid fight with a player getting me killed.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Vote for a different one then. Most people don't bother to vote.

I will say this for High Fort though, it has a ton of space so people can't as easily zip around from one spot to the next. Means more to hold and defend on a map like than rather than on River Fort, where everything is so close.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

kek i love when that happens.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

So you would still have to pay attention to your surroundings

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

warlord mirror
rages cos I counter his headbutts

lmao

valk player
turtles
use headbutt to open him up
omg stop spam

fucking love memelord lads

girlDog
girlDog

It's a reactable light that you can dodge and if he doesn't do a light he can get a free guard break when you dodge.

It's a fucking 50/50 you retard

happy_sad
happy_sad

bragging about being a tierwhore
k

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Ive played 5 characters before him

fuck off

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

playing the game as much as everybody else in the general justifies picking the literal most broken character
yeah nah

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

just happened to someone while i was fighting an turtling LB.. guess they're not so bad after all

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

r8 my edgy conq for tilting people

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

play good player
if I attack I get punished
calls me a turtle

well no fucking shit youre doing the same fucking thing

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Playing Brawl
Have Roach as teammate against a Conq and LB but Conq leaves after first round
After about two rounds the LB and Roach face off and the LB wins
I fight the LB but I then go to revive the Roach
Revive him but then I die after
Roach says "You won this one." to the LB and lets him kill him

Fucking Roaches.

Lunatick
Lunatick

does it actually get you salt? I love it when enemies look cool like that

takes2long
takes2long

fighting a Law as Nobushi

Jesus fuck

Bidwell
Bidwell

yeah i have this skin that i use as my default, but when i have someone tilted already, if they rematch i go full edge and they usually comment some shit about me being an edgy kid

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

you deserved that. if you werent being "dishororabru" before that point, doing it right at the end then yeah, i agree with the roach

i dont agree with honor fagging in general, but if youre gonna start honor fagging, its even worse to suddenly stop without notice

Soft_member
Soft_member

how the fuck does warlord shield charge work?

I cant hit anyone with it

Techpill
Techpill

the trick is to run directly into them!

TreeEater
TreeEater

cheese grater/10

Soft_member
Soft_member

hate that style of helmet

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Zerkers are the worst for it, they complain that I'm not even trying to parry. Well no fucking shit I won't try and parry your shit, as soon as I do I get gb'd.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

it doesn't

girlDog
girlDog

Which is the border?
I think I didn't got mine

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Can't beat a guy with a bit for a team mate

Good on the roach.

Inmate
Inmate

yeah this keeps happeneing to me

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

havent played game in a while
play valk
everyone seems to be able to parry the 2nd light in my combo
go into bot training as warden
cant parry the valk
????

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

You're bad.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

so what bug do i need to abuse then?
because pressing the direction of the attack and heavy attack doesnt work. I mean it looks like most of the meta is about exploiting bugs.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

holy fucking shit gankers are such faggots.
fighting valk
valks down to two bars
teammate roach runs up
top light spam while she blocks all of it
gets revenge
roach runs away

why do so many people fucking do this.

Emberburn
Emberburn

So Warlod is actually kinda shit at offense

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

youre slow`

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

The exploit is called "parrying with proper timing"

idontknow
idontknow

learn his full toolkit before you make yourself look silly again

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Spamalot
Spamalot

well the shield charge is fucked and whiffs all of the time for me, the headbut is ony good at close range and its a free gb if you dodge, zone easilt blocked

what elese has he?

eGremlin
eGremlin

iirc you're meant to release the button on physical contact, but it's shit anyway

cum2soon
cum2soon

Happened to me too earlier
Fighting a warden as Kensei
Faggot is a mix of turtle and vortex spamming fuck
If I manage to get ONE side heavy in, I kill him
Then Sasuke jump in and literally start churning out top light and heavies at industrial mass production
Give the Warden 3 THREE NIGGA, THREE revenge in less than 2 fucking minutes
Fight become a hell of dodging the zone attack and MISERUM because if I ate one I was fucking dead

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

just roll away

farquit
farquit

500ms side lights that are nearly indistinguishable from heavies on reaction because their animation is very similar. Mix the two up and destroy people who think they can parry lights.

Soft 50/50 in charge and on headbutt. Spook them by dodging forward, and then hit them with the dry GB when they dodge. Mix it with regular headbutts and people will start eating both more often.

TreeEater
TreeEater

running attack

FastChef
FastChef

It was in the fuck ass corridor in the Tower Ruin map, there was no space.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

how do i git gud as raider?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Parry lights shit out damage. Combo zone a lot and sometimes feint.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Ive been doing most of these but only baddies fall for the headbutt/dodge gb thing

and I cant get the charge to connect

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

oh no one of warlord's 50,000 tools doesn't work

RavySnake
RavySnake

Be a sneaky bastard.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

move the leftstick to the right at character selection

girlDog
girlDog

How do you counter nobushi as law? Fucking bitch has cancels and flickers out the ass

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Law is no longer my bro

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

honestly nobushi is one of your easier matchups

the only thing that should be giving you trouble is the unlock exploit

TreeEater
TreeEater

I'm probably just bad, but I can't block her consistently as Berserker on console

girlDog
girlDog

Parry

idontknow
idontknow

Parry everything.
Honestly her lights aren't too bad and her zone is slow enough that it's not a flicker problem.

Illusionz
Illusionz

the warlord charge is nothing compared to raiders charge

it wont hit if you're frame perfect with the enemy, and then it will hit when they dash out of the way, and you do a 90degree turn and grab them. Stupidest shit ever

Tracking needs a major tweak in this game

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

from what i could tell, she was unlocking her zone, and then re-locking to cancel it into as side attack, leading everything with a flicker move

i did, but the game being elimination, aka gear fest, i would fuck one parry and lose half my health and then get ganked because revenge and stupid team mates

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

two consecutive SB spam webms
both against raider
both raiders never dodge where they're safe from GBs

Snarelure
Snarelure

warden vortex uncounterable even as warlord

cant get my headbutt off fast enough to knock him out of it

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

blames the game for you being bad

Everyone can counter it, quit being fucking bad.

Emberburn
Emberburn

You know, it probably doesn't help that i'm trying a different control scheme and the nobushi players I tend to fight are shitters who abuse bugs and just genuinely are shit people

Can't wait for gear to be changed though, enough of the revenge spamming

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

trade blows with the protected heavy.
after parrying hit the gb button to do stamina damage. you can usually get away with a gb after this. can land a top heavy off a gb. side heavies are REALLY slow. in my experience a lot of people seem to fuck up on parrying this. a heavy from full block is really fast. can usually land one after blocking an attack with it.

Bidwell
Bidwell

i've seen shugos grab do a 90 degree turn too.
i've also seen valks shield bash do more than a 90 degree turn

Flameblow
Flameblow

tjose are counter atttacking options user not offense

Evilember
Evilember

gb
feint
full block to get off a faster heavy
don't use headsplitter leap

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I know this shit user

my point is he shit at chasing down enemies

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

i'm a stark
why not just say that you enjoy the character?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

because redditors

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Fastest zone in the game
Slow

Don't tell me you're actually still playing against people so bad they don't unlock zone.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Check the for honour leddit
There's a thread crying about nazi emblems

Every time.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

So what are the Shugoki? Are they soldiers?

farquit
farquit

Man Warlod is just too clunky for me, his dodges are delayed and he has no fucking range

overrated as fuck

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

DEMONS

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I've heard a couple times that apparently the centurion is supposed to be the turtle breaker according to some people, any reason why they're saying this?

idontknow
idontknow

Is this worth $60?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Uh, he has a new type of attack as shown in the character reveal. Some sort of glowing dark red shit.

Could be unblockable / unparriable or some shit. We won't know until Thursday.

King_Martha
King_Martha

if it were me, i would wait a bit for a sale & better balancing
if you have the money though it's good fun

Evilember
Evilember

you can definitely get it for cheaper than that if you're trying to buy a PC key. not sure about consoles

Firespawn
Firespawn

unparriable
If that's the case, he's may actually be OP considering how like half the community and certain characters can't dodge properly

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Sumos

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Probably not, but it was worth it for me

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I would wait until the new stuff comes out, then see if it goes on sale. You could also get it now to train for the expansion. I personally don't regret buying it.

Methnerd
Methnerd

every character can dodge.

a shugoki can dodge a raider or shugoki unblockable, or a lawbringer 50/50

Emberfire
Emberfire

it's a charged attack, conq's charged heavy glows red

Flameblow
Flameblow

his chub legs don't work so good.

Flameblow
Flameblow

On PC pretty much all casual players have left so it may be tough getting into the game, console still has a decent player base though. But I'd wait for the end of the month, season 2 is starting soon and there is bound to be a sale and/or free play weekend.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Skirmish order

Thank fuck bot matches still work for these on console.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Havent played since launch, are LB and Raider good now?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Temple guards or some such. That's why he is one of the few that is excusable to make look flashy as fuck.

Snarelure
Snarelure

cent has normal blocking
and a deflect
sit guard top for easy side deflects
deflect is a knockdown for FREE heavy
AM I THE ONLY ONE WORRIED ABOUT THIS.

eGremlin
eGremlin

He has charged heavies. They are unblockable and impale people leading to other combos or an execution if it kills.

Think it is just done by holding heavy after a light combo.

FastChef
FastChef

Why do people want more objective modes

they are pure dog shit in this game

King_Martha
King_Martha

yes and no respectively

Flameblow
Flameblow

speaking of dodging, what can kind of attacks/actions can prevent you from dodging an attack?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

made a reddit 2 weeks ago to post on the for honor page
i always thought people were exaggerating when people said reddit was full of fags.

farquit
farquit

Well Valk has deflects with a 23 damage bleed. The centurion might be worse with his, but a deflect on a nonreflex hero is not unheard of.

Lunatick
Lunatick

yeah they did. dailies used to give 300 steel and normal orders gave 100

farquit
farquit

Valk already does this only instead of a knockdown for free heavy she does a bleed hit

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Why is it feinting does fucking nothing anymore?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Nobody uses this because the rest of Val's kit is way less risky.
It'll probably be the same with Centurion.

idontknow
idontknow

So they're increasing it again?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

GB. Zone, but can be dodged with tighter timing. Bear trap. Stun trap.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Oh and superior block interrupts.

Inmate
Inmate

Valk has regular guard and deflect.

idontknow
idontknow

no only xp gain

RumChicken
RumChicken

risky
Just option select it.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Well, shit, that's what I get for being excited about anyyhing in this game

massdebater
massdebater

dont let warden get his vortex off
they are shit players

imagine that

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

why would they increase steel again? it's already at a good point right now

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I could always get more ornaments/mythics, user

Methshot
Methshot

mfw its real. Why do people care so much about the fucking nazi symbol.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

"Anyone with a Nazi emblem is an edgy little punk troll, a nihilistic, cynical twerp who doesn't care about anything, or an actual Nazi, and in any case, someone needs to beat your ass."
"Also, let's scalp Nazis!"
+46

Moderator post: "This as a community is something we should all stand behind! we as a community do not tolerate this what so ever. Be sure to report people!"

"It's just an emblem, no need to fucking cry over it "
-8

Reddit is so shit

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Have you had so much fun with a game that you'd like your friends to play it so they can have as much fun as you?
I really wish ubisoft had dedicated servers and not the p2p /trash/ so more people could enjoy the game.

girlDog
girlDog

What if I just think the Swastika is a cool design and wanna use it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

The sub mods are so out of touch there. After that drama where they fired some now they get new ones and lose them every other day. Bunch of ego trip kids now.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Did they make change to Shugoki since launch?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

The allies lose the war, get over it boyo.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Dedicated Servers would be worse

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

one objective mode in game
they are shit

???

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

what's thursday?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

What could be the solution then?

happy_sad
happy_sad

i like dominion because you can recover after going into breaking.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

thinking dedicated servers are a solution and not a bigger problem
[laughing crying emoji intensifies]

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

dev stream

Lunatick
Lunatick

Replace nazi emblem with neighbors hiding Jews in the attic.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

wait, how do you know this?

farquit
farquit

Well I dont really have friends who play video games...

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Dev stream. Confirmed to be talking about new characters movesets. Expect gameplay.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Dedicated servers would be nice for dominion.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Just had an invisible PK bot in my skirmish game after an enemy RQ'd, has anyone had this happen to them before? We had to spam zones just to kill him at the end

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

The PK got a ghost buff

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Im on the verge on becoming a meme and just quitting vs wardens

I cant ake this bullshit anymore

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

r8 my kensei and lawbringer,

I really like the new kensei mythic symbols/ornament, and once i get a purple ayukawa chest i'll probably switch to that since the octopus looks better on it. for now it's spikey McEdge though.

Why the fuck are fujiwara and Blackstone legion not defense/attack colours respectively yet

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

classes to teach console babbies how to configure a router would be a start

iluvmen
iluvmen

Holy shit user!!
Why's every “Pro“-Streamer in For Honor, a fucking delusional tryhard Dick sucking bitch nigger faggot?
Fucking disgusting!!1! I can't believe this shiet. God damn Edgelords. Bullshit!

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

dominion games shitting the bed when someone quits is the problem of people's router configs

Really makes you go hmm.

idontknow
idontknow

I think they both look kinda tacky, and their design is really busy, 4/10

Less is more, nigga

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

ywn be sexually dominated by femraider

SniperWish
SniperWish

agreed.

The LB is ok, Kensei is shit.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

i lost to a pk once so all pks are shitters now
wew lad

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Fighting a 108 zerker with all feats unlocked

Mother of god that was horrific.

whereismyname
whereismyname

That ornament and helmet go well together; that helmet and the Airi set do not.

As said, less is more. Chill out with the paint patterns and symbols. Not saying you can't have them, but try to pick patterns that go well with symbols, i.e. Parted Ferns, Two Moons, etc.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

For knights I like using bronze armour with either solid red or red and white on only the cloth parts. Maybe some paint on one shoulder if it fits. Simple and stylish.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

be peasant mugger
get caught beating a guy to death in a fit of rah-ge
chump Warden approaches me in prison
offers to set me free if I agree to fight for two years
better than getting raped and tortured i guess
first battle
9 foot tall viking charges our front line
cleaves six guys in half with a single swing of his axe
what the fuck
survive a couple of battles
even kill this psychotic midget who swung around two butter knives like they just came out of the forge
Warden tells me she's been observing me in battle, and I'm getting promoted
my new title will be conqueror
"Ill conquer your puss lol"
ignores me
gives me some outdated and useless equipment
"You can paint whatever you want on it as long as its in our colors"
write on some dope shit I picked up in prison
pic related

Do I look fucking sick or what?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I like doing that as well, with maybe a bit of paint on one shoulder for my LB and that's it.

Daubeny Wings also look pretty decent on Bronze armor, which is always a plus.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

clinical autism

also, no

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

My last four games in a row have had at least one leaver who costs us the game. There needs to be a punishment, preferably a 15 or 30 minute temp ban for every game that is left via Alt-F4 or through the game's exit menu.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

looks pretty ok, I like the standard and colors, but I'd ditch the ornaments.
Conq doesn't have a single ornament that doesn't look like dog shit, at this point I'd really like them to embrace that and just give stupid ornaments, like a guy on a potty.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

RP in a fighting game

oh shit nigga you gotsta CHILL

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Doing well in dominion
Someone leaves near the end
Entire Lobby shits the bed
10 minutes down the drain

The fact it still happens is disgusting.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

The sun orniment is nice is you use bronze or gold armour.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

i was just making a joke about the retarded ass designs the mythic outfit gives you..

Spamalot
Spamalot

help me, ubisoft is literally eating my inputs

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

ywn being sexually dominated yet loved by Valk, Femraider and Femconq

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

teammates insist on being honor fags in elimination
to the point of just standing there and emoting as you get executed

What the fuck are there people thinking?

takes2long
takes2long

i think shinobi is going to be more to worry about.
devs seem to favor both assassins and samurai.
ranged gb, teleport, probably bleed

Skullbone
Skullbone

Shinobi will have fuck all health

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Devs say shinobi is going to be "hard to play"
Theh also think PK is "hard to play"
Is going to have a bloated as guck move set

Certain cause for concern, I hope to god shinobi is shit though. Simply becuase the game is going to be nothing but shinobi for a long time to come.

Playboyize
Playboyize

10/10

Firespawn
Firespawn

He had a ranged GB AND a ranged heavy
Dashes for miles
He's going to be top fucking tier for ganking

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

chat has wordfilters now
lmaoing @ ur ded game ubi.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

But it's totally perfectly cool for all those commie faggots rocking the hammer in scycle. Which btw collectively had a death count in the hundreds of millions. Made the nazi's look like saints and infact i think the nazi's were not actually that bad.

Booteefool
Booteefool

What are they?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

i dunno when i write "ded game" it doesnt show up

Soft_member
Soft_member

Would anybody be willing to trade a Season Pass key for a bunch of games I don't want

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

the second one clearly shows him dodging
warden fucking 180's and hits him anyway

nigger what

FastChef
FastChef

WARDEN NERF WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Soft_member
Soft_member

Anyone else really looking forward to centurion simply because it's going to be a knight that isn't based around bash attacks, and isn't fucking peacekeeper?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

you should at least list the games, user
but the answer will probably be no

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

So when it comes to the first feat slot, is it better to take faster cap speed or minion kills grant hp and stamina?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

It's like three months worth of Humble garbage anyways. The only notable games are that One Piece musou and fucking Undertale.

RavySnake
RavySnake

is humble that service that gives you games every month for like, idk was it 12 bucks a month or something? Is it cool to have? I was thinking about grabbing it.

cum2soon
cum2soon

It's really neat if you have the money to spare. You're guaranteed one or two "good" games and the rest is some kind of interesting indie games.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

both are mid-tier. raider can really kick some ass if you're good at parrying and know his punishes.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Law got a soft 50/50 on blocks. Raider has had no balance changes at all.

iluvmen
iluvmen

What's some examples of "good" games, if you dont mind

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

imagine if this was a F2P game

the amount of praise it would get would be crazy since the basic starter character is god tier

FastChef
FastChef

PK using a mouse and revenge build

This is cancer beyond cancer

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

does tough as nails even make a big difference for warlord? how about punch through?
i've mostly just been using fury.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Controller vs kb&m is just personal preference though. 90% of tournament winners have used controllers for instance.

Inmate
Inmate

most of them haven never eve tried kb+m

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Could they make parrying harder holy shit

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

This month was Inside and Dirt: Rally. Plus Undertale and some indie game called This Is the Police.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Is anyone else experiencing some serious DC and lag in games, on PC? Like way more than usual.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Anyone know a fix to chat just disapearing? It shows for like one match then its gone til i restart. This was never an issue til latest patch.

FastChef
FastChef

If you buy the season pass do you still have to buy the new heroes with steel or are they free?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How do you counter assassin who constantly back dash?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Free, if you don't consider the cost of buying the season pass in the first place

whereismyname
whereismyname

they're free if you buy the season pass along with being able to play them one week early

cum2soon
cum2soon

parrying needs to be much less rewarding

you drain their stam, get a free GB, and it can be done on every attack in the game

Playboyize
Playboyize

Finally hit Rep 1
neat.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

learn to feint. if you're consistently being parried, you're not playing a good mindgame.

StonedTime
StonedTime

finally

you best bust out 4 more of those before the 16th my guy

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Feinting is garbage in this game

whereismyname
whereismyname

Why is it always roach top lights that go through my fucking guard?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I take it I should wait for the free champion status that comes with season 2 before I break all of the gear down that I don't want any more, correct?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

who are you playing where feints aren't working?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Oh, don't worry, I will be hiding in Dominion vs AI when that happens

happy_sad
happy_sad

Reminder to join the official /fhg/ Discord! discord.gg/Bb58J6E

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I wouldn't bother. Scrap is so easy to come by.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

All of the mythic outfits making you look like a tacky race car covered in ads really helps my steel pile keep growing. What were the art team thinking with that shit?

Evilember
Evilember

discord
these always ruin generals

WebTool
WebTool

But champ status gives you bonus right? So as long a second I have slots spare I may as well wait.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

feinting still fucking gets me man, and i fell like no one ever falls for mine. Maybe Raider is more predictable or something.

viagrandad
viagrandad

revenge still builds up even when you're only fighting one person

Jesus Christ.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Am I the only one who fucking hates fighting Shugs 1v1? They don't spam charge anymore but they don't play by the same rules as every other character in the cast and it's a pain in the fucking ass.

Not to mention it seems like every one of them is using a Revenge Build, so midway through chipping away their health they can suddenly parry you and instantly kill you.

Nojokur
Nojokur

as raider, your best friend for mindgames is your heavy cancel into stunning tap

cancel into the tap a few times, then start throwing raw heavies without cancelling.

likme
likme

Does anyone know who I can watch for some, "high level" Berserker? I'd love to see some examples of things.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Is there a way to make a good Maltese cross emblem? I tried using the one shape that's similar and filling the space between with lines but it looks really fucked up when it's just a thumb nail next to my name.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

feint
they don't even move because the feint takes place well before the parry window and is obvious as fuck
lol

Playboyize
Playboyize

???
how do devs favor samurai over knights? knights had 3/4 of their chars in the top 5 at one point, conq is still good and law is super fucking obnoxious now

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

berserker is the same as kensei

they're both shit, so you have to rely completely on feints and mindgames. Any high level player of a good class will immediately shut down a berserkerl. Just remember to use your zone attack every once in a while

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The fient window is the same as a lights parry window.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

That's disheartening

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

google search 'samurai helmet ornaments'
all of the good ornaments in game are directly ripped off of historical ones
all of the shitty ornaments came from ubis own design

faggots couldnt create a good original ornament if their lives depended on it

Inmate
Inmate

yeah i do that. and it does work most of the time. i just saying my feints dont usually work besides 50/50.

I like to stun tap over and over again to piss the other players off

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

make sure you throw some thrust emotes in there to get them tilted

takes2long
takes2long

people that reactively try to parry lights every time are predictable, the main problem is that playing defensively is far too strong in this game

DeathDog
DeathDog

so is pic related confirmed the sets for Cent? if so, im fucking buying so much steel to get this shit, that third set helmet is fucking amazing looking

hope they follow suite on the other knight armors, especially conq

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I used to try to parry everything and so zerker and PK always ripped my asshole open. I decided to be more patient and just regular block attacks, and now i do better.

Pointless post

RavySnake
RavySnake

Posting the same link in multiple unrelated threads on Veeky Forums

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

On PC it is for sure, not as much of a problem on console though as most people are playing on large TVs which mean they are getting 200ms less to react to stuff.

viagrandad
viagrandad

after you land a heavy, try doing a second heavy and feinting that to either parry them, gb them, or interrupt their parry attempt with a light
i find in general if you feint the second move in a chain people fall for it more often

eGremlin
eGremlin

It's concept art, but it's a near certainty that there will be very similar sets in game. And before anyone asks, no these aren't all of the sets, they were just showing off how they try to create unique looking sets while also trying to make them work when mixed and matched.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

revenge isn't disabled in duels

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Fighting a Warden as Berserker
Punish him for trying to do anything because he's bad
Every round gets down to one bar of health and then turtles
He doesn't parry or anything, only blocks and techs any GB I throw
No way to do damage ever
He just stalls for revenge and then goes offensive
Every
Single
Round

I'm still mad about that guy and it was like a month ago.

idontknow
idontknow

I hope they'll still pay attention to the original 12 classes after they start releasing DLC
I don't think any of the current gear varies as much as what cent and shinobi have, and the one leaked lawbringer set looks boring

Emberburn
Emberburn

fighting a Warden as Kensei
get him down to near death
he starts spamming flicker/shoulder bash until I die
then goes "Good Fight!"

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Shit like this happens all the time as Zerk

whoop guys ass for a minute straight
mostly lights are connecting
hes still alive because shit damage
he continues to turtle
gets one lucky parry
1/3rd of my health gone in one swing

disgusting

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

there's two new sets being released for each character, hopefully the other sets aren't as bad as the leaked law one

King_Martha
King_Martha

losing to the vortex when all you have to do is dodge and light and he can't shoulder bash or gb you

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

leaked
nigga the devs put it on their official stream do you know what a leak is

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

letting a Warden start shoulder bash from neutral
It's all your fault.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

what is flicker

you mean this zone indicator bug?

Evilember
Evilember

Yeah, thats a flicker. It's been called this for ages now.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

No, just no. Raider is the worst character in the game.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Kensei is easily worse

viagrandad
viagrandad

nah kensei has range

Snarelure
Snarelure

Nigga what Kensei is one of the best

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Ken has no stance change delay, faster lights, just as solid damage on parries, and longer range. He even has unblockable mindgames, though they aren't on-demand like Raiders is.

I think all Raider has over Ken is his exhausted throw punish.

JunkTop
JunkTop

one of the best
not quite
I'd say raider and kensei are both mid tier. they lack the tools of top tier characters but they can be effective if played correctly

Nojokur
Nojokur

somebody beat me so I'm mad
[crying laughing emoji]

TreeEater
TreeEater

not quite

And what is the basis for this shit opinion?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Lose because character actually has no opener whatsoever
Lose because my enemy can just decide to not bother having an offense and the game rewards this

:thinking:

cum2soon
cum2soon

anyone without a turtle opener can't be considered top tier.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Kensei and Raider are both shit.

Kensei is slightly less shit because he has directional block, (the thing where your block stance holds position when you dodge), and he has really good range.

But they're both shit

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Play very on and off, got it from a buddy that wanted to play with him.
Get into it for a few hours, was having fun.
Take a break for about a month or two, highest char level is rep 1 Lawbringer
Do a couple duels to get warmed and get back into the swing of things
Go through 5 grueling full sweep loses where im consistently smashed, then flamed into oblivion by dudes with 15+ prestige on their characters

Like, how am I supposed to have fun? Strict player skill my ass, I didnt have anything close to an even match and just get my ass stomped in by these insane infinite chain combos.

viagrandad
viagrandad

wait, raider doesn't have directional block? im absolutely sure he does

hairygrape
hairygrape

go play the team modes. duel mode is filled with tryhards that are no fun to play against. I only play duel when theres a duel order (which brings the normal playerbase into duel so it isn't as bad)

Methnerd
Methnerd

Practice against bots and stop expecting online multiplayer to reward you being shit at the game.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

these insane infinite chain combos

Only 2 characters in the game have an infinite chain. You can make it 3 if you count Warden chaining into shoulderbash off of lights.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Help, i'm shit. How do I counter Wardens SB as Lawbringer?

whereismyname
whereismyname

nobody can counter Warden's SB, user. We all suffer together.

hairygrape
hairygrape

You can easily use feints to draw out turtles

eGremlin
eGremlin

can't you just dodge shove it? im wondering if the shove would start before his gb cancelled you

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

side dodge shove

Emberburn
Emberburn

raider kinda can, gotta be on top of your shit though.
plenty of turtles just block. sure you try to combo to the unblockable but if they stay in your face you won't be able to do the combo.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Fuck every single lawbringer

I have no idea why this fucking general defended them for this long even when they were shitty LBs players had the worst attitudes

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I dont think so. He has a unique dash-grab, where he can GB anytime during his dash, and can never get GB'd unless its in the first .5 seconds of his dash

Methshot
Methshot

deus vult xd

the entire knight faction is a shitty meme faction full of overpowered characters, that also unfortunately has the coolest designs

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

complains about other players bad attitudes
while he proceeds to whine himself

Emberfire
Emberfire

I'm stupid I'll try this, thank you

SniperWish
SniperWish

I played against nothing wardens, zerks, and conq that just flamed to the point the game became totally unenjoyable
Not expecting it to reaware me by any stretch of the imagination, I just want to have some quality fights where I'm not getting trashed that have 10x, 20x the playtime and rank at me. Game tells me I'll be match with people of similar skill when that is clearly not the case.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I added fps hit detector and with the lag that exists in 7/10 games PK and Valk hit you before the marker shows up.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Play 4v4. You'll have to deal with ganks but people aren't as good at the game and it's better than Duel where you either get raped and mocked or your opponent quits halfway through.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Huh, when I played last it was kind of the opposite, I was usually getting pretty chill dudes in brawl, but no i just see games with chat macros telling me how shit I am

hairygrape
hairygrape

What is your favorite class fashion?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I just hate the tracking on that thing.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

lawfaggot detected

Playboyize
Playboyize

I mean, if you losing to Conq and Zerk wasn't already pretty damning, you were also losing to slow-ass parrybait chains. Like unprevoked flaming is a dick move but you do sound like a trashcan of a player, so its not baseless.

What character were you playing as?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Raider kinda can

He cant do it well user, trust me, we talked about this earlier

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Warden/berserker

Bidwell
Bidwell

bad attitude user detected
conq and law
OP
please. LB is decent now, but the last patch gutted conq. neither are OP.

I'll give you warden and PK, though.

Lunatick
Lunatick

lawbringer

hairygrape
hairygrape

So is orochi op or what?

I dont fucking get him

Techpill
Techpill

2 MOVES

well 3 if you fall for the dash canceling

Emberburn
Emberburn

the only bullshit he has is the zone flicker. once they fix that, I'll consider him balanced.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

anyone know what damage percentage punch through gives?
how about a maxed out block damage?

looking to pair these up on my conq

MPmaster
MPmaster

He's not OP but he's annoying as fuck

StonedTime
StonedTime

he relies on abusing a poorly-implemented mechanic as virtually his only offense - combination of bad design and bad implementation. If you play him he's not bad, though.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Hes shit but has an entire fanbase dedicated to him

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

its another PK spams lights and zone in a duel episode

this is why duelling is dead.

Illusionz
Illusionz

The Conq was a level 20 prestige Conq, and my highest with 1 on LB. I' mnot even saying I'm a good player, or even a decent player. I just do not understand why I'm getting matches with people that have exponential higher amounts of hours. It just makes the game INCREDIBLY frustrating to just jump back into

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I heard there is gear and stuff in this game but my friend wants me to play with him

Am i going to have no fun and get raped until i have 9000 powerlevel gear after 200 hours?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

not being able to counter a raw GB or parry a raw heavy even in a gank

Get fucking good scrub. The Centi with bashes and downed combos will be way more overpowered than Shino.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'm pretty sure the matchmaking algorithm doesn't give a shit about time played, and instead focuses on winrate. You probably had a solid winrate from before you took your break, so it's pairing you against what it considers similar players.

It should even itself out over time.

WebTool
WebTool

tfw raider mirror match
a bunch of dashing feinting before he manages to wallbang me
the follow up zone is parried just in time
I zone in turn
he parries, zones
I parry, zone
eventually one of us fucks up and dies

the most fun I've had with this game in weeks

girlDog
girlDog

revenge gain by injury needs to be fucking removed.

Snarelure
Snarelure

So how much longer is it going to take for people to stop crying X class is shit? While there are 4 or 5 classes that are better due to having easy openers, the rest are all pretty well balanced for the most part. There is no character that's so bad that they are in need of a huge buff. Once we get a universal guard change speed that gap will be even smaller as well.

Supergrass
Supergrass

it, and revenge gain by defense, are being combined into one stat next season ("revenge gained")

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

And attack and defence stats. Maybe next season.

TechHater
TechHater

Pick Shug for elimination
Faggot I get paired against just runs away knowing that with the charge nerf I can't do anything to stop them
You can't even fucking pick Shugoki in elimination anymore without actively hurting your team because faggots run away to gank

WebTool
WebTool

pls respond

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Shug is a gank master with his hug and unblockable though.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Yes but it means nothing if my enemy runs away and kills a teammate in a gank before I can even catch up to them

Illusionz
Illusionz

Take heal on block and don't look back. Even 100% punch though wouldn't make it worth taking over heal on block.

JunkTop
JunkTop

If they run off to gank just take your fat ass over to the nearest team mate and gank their fight as well. You'll help end their fight faster than the guy that ran from you.

Bidwell
Bidwell

The problem is my enemy runs over to the nearest teammate to gank them, and more often than not by the time I show up my teammate is dead or incredibly close to dying

takes2long
takes2long

If they can't hang in there for 5 seconds then you just have a bad team, no character pick can help you there unfortunately.

5mileys
5mileys

i used to run this but never really paid attention to how much health i was getting back. is it really worth it?
i was hoping punch through plus high block damage would wreck shit since landing a charged heavy with conq can be a little tricky.
punch through is really nice. that paired with shield basher i don't even need to land a hit

JunkTop
JunkTop

This isn't true for the later rounds though because of feats being broken
Round 3
Roach runs away from me to go gank
Before I can stop him he off screen hits my teammate with a bow killing him

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Petemoo, who has currently won the most tournaments in the game, thinks that Raider is 3rd and just below the top tier. Do you want me to explain why or do you want to keep your excuses as to why you get bodied when you play him?

w8t4u
w8t4u

It's nearly a full bar per block, conq can't kill shit fast unless you get them in a corner so you may as well play to your strengths and grind them down while healing every time they take a swing at you. Heal on block is one of the best feats in the game, you can just park your ass on the enemy point in dominion and stay there for a good while thanks to it. Most of your damage should be coming from bash into light or heavy block into gb heavy, none of which can be blocked anyway. Best conq set up is faster cap or faster res, shield bash damage, heal on block and then you may as well take the catapult for some cheeky group kills now and then.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Well other than assassins, no one can really do anything about that. I really don't see how this has anything to do with you playing shug.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Berserker is CUTE!

WebTool
WebTool

Because as anyone else I have a chance to stop them. Lawman can impale runners. Shug can do nothing to stop them

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

shit i didn't know heal on block was that much, thanks man.

i usually hold on to my catapult until i've got 3 people after me. i back myself into a corner and then jihad myself

Illusionz
Illusionz

Yeah it's the shit, as soon as you go bellow half just turtle up and you'll be at full in no time.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

So how is trapzerker supposed to be fair, again? There's no counterplay to traps besides throwing bodies at it.

askme
askme

It's not, zerker with all feats is stupidly strong.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

is regenerate worth it? should i just stick with my jihad

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Kensei's katana has a sunlight sheen effect when your camera is angled the right way on a daylight map
All the more reason why he's best boy(girl)

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

It got nerfed, better to stick with catapult now.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Go around.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Its a masamune not a kat

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

playing raider in dom
defensive feats, I boost and defend our point
nobushi starts bitching that I'm just camping on our point and should get out and fight
point out to him that boosting the zone doubles the points for the zone
he proceeds to come last on the scoreboard while I come first
he still thinks he played better because he wasn't camping a zone

Dominion players are a special kind of autistic.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

tfw there's a 4v4 mode where you just kill each other
but people want to do that in dominion instead of control points

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

doesn't help that in my region, fucking no one plays elim.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

it's a fucking nodachi what the hell are you talking about masamune isn't a type of sword its a fucking smith

im not even a weeb im just a guy who knows shit and you're wrong as fuck

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Do you mean Murasame? The swordsmith?
Masamune is the warlord

Lunatick
Lunatick

Kensigh uses Sephiroths sword so it must be called masamune this is canon

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

nigga you could literally google the shit im saying and educate yourself instead of being the ignorant ass shitstain you are

the shit i said
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masamune
widely recognized as Japan's greatest swordsmith.

the shit you said
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murasame
a type of rain that falls hard, then gently

takes2long
takes2long

not wearing the wolftail chestpiece to go with your hat
0 awoo/10

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

this is why everybody hates weebs cause of borderline autism like this

takes2long
takes2long

Kensigh
SIGH
People that pronounce it sigh instead of say need to neck themselves

Bidwell
Bidwell

Jesus Christ, you even edited Wikipedia articles. Sad

RumChicken
RumChicken

(You)

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Fucking this

I don't even care if the other guy was baiting, it fucking infuriates me when people genuinely call him kensai

Is it that fucking hard to read

takes2long
takes2long

when you complete the order but then disconnect because ubisoft seriously can't spend the few shekels to have real servers

SniperWish
SniperWish

Kensai
more like
Kensai-want-you-to-go-fucking-kill-yourself

RumChicken
RumChicken

I just played with a Peacekeeper who, from the very beginning, decided he wasn't leaving point A on Shard while I was sitting there boosting it. He proceeded to go 2-6, then shit talked me for being "bad" when I carried my team so hard with like 17-2 and 10+ zone captures.

The Hero peace keeper doesn't even bother me anymore, I can usually win against them. It's the fucking people playing them. The "they're so OP" meme has drawn all of the dumb cunts to them.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Facing a Warden in duels
Go for a top heavy
Feint it
He inevitably goes for a Crushing Counter
Parry the light
AD MORTEM INIMICUS
Do this five fucking times in a row
"Wtf is that shit"

This has happened so many times now. Wardens always seem so lost when their precious Crushing Counter is turned against them. I fucking love it, and it's so effective as Lawbringer or Raider.

King_Martha
King_Martha

not feinting a parry in order to bait out a crush counter that would beat a crush counter but you crush counter their crush counter instead
warden mirrors are the only fun i've ever had with this game

TreeEater
TreeEater

When you flicker a zone attack, does it take the same amount of time as doing a zone attack normally?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Parrying/countering feels like such anime shit sometimes, especially with Crushing Counters.

He's going for a heavy! Psh, I'll just counter it with my Crushing Counter technique! Even if it's a feint, I'm bound to get a light hit in!
CRUSHING COUNTER gets parried
N-Nani!?

They shoulda just made this game Anime Fights, honestly.

askme
askme

alright, thanks bruv
you play a lot of conq? got any tips? got mine to rep 3 but i usually just use a lot of charged side heavies since nobody knows that they swing faster than a non charged hit.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Maxing out defense gear should not be able to save you from a heavy attack when you are at maximum regen health.

Yes/no?

Soft_member
Soft_member

Wait a week and they won't be able to do it anymore. Feat cool down stat is getting taken out so it won't matter.

farquit
farquit

Shield bash into lights is where most of your damage will come from, always go for the gb after a blocking a heavy, use all guard to fient. Light into all guard into bash or gb is a nice combo that catches most of guard. Conqs in a rough spot after the nerf so just play slow and chip them down, alternate between bashes and gbs to keep them guessing and remember that conq blocks in the direction of your dodges.

StonedTime
StonedTime

yes, the first few frames seem to result in the zone just skipping ahead, see

the regen health is just a bad idea overall, if someone's locked onto you, you shouldn't regen anything

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Yes and it won't in season 2. Honestly what's stopping you from getting max defense penetration along with max attack to basicly do the equivlant of max attack vs no gear players right now. It seems like people will die really fast now in 4v4.

5mileys
5mileys

I mean, even without gear. A heavy that would normally finish someone off in duel/brawl should finish someone off all the time, even if they've got gear on.

TechHater
TechHater

tfw you nearly kill some rep 10 nigger by repeatedly spamming top light
I know it's retarded, but it made me laugh anyway
if it helps, I died after

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

rep doesn't always mean too much, especially in 4v4 modes. I once played against a rep 19 kensei who literally only used the side dash attack and nothing else, and got parried every time.

Supergrass
Supergrass

tfw perfecting enemy PK cunt who was spamming lights on friendly
get the last deflect into gb and about to kill her when friendly valk runs in, taps her once ruining my attack and helping the PK proc revenge to wipe us both with her laggy-ass zonespam

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

conq blocks in the direction of your dodges.
i did not know that.. holy shit.
gb after blocking a heavy
is it a guarantee? i didn't even know they had different blocks
i'm pretty sure i can land a side heavy off of a gb but not sure about top heavy. do top heavies do more damage?

i made a clip during the beta of which i THINK i got a few superior block heavies off. can you confirm if these hits are the superior block heavy?

youtube.com/watch?v=WkZMKp24l9o
i uploaded it to youtube and made a reddit account just so i can ask them there but a kensei was pretty adamant that they weren't

thanks for the tips man, appreciate it.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Warden main tries to tell me LB is more powerful than Warden

Are they all this delusional? What the fuck is with Warden mains?

Nojokur
Nojokur

i see a lot high rep kenseis spam this shit. even after parrying and punishing. had a game where a rep 12 kensei only did this the entire game. sad thing is he wrecked my teammates and we still lost.

SniperGod
SniperGod

that shit does so little damage might as well be chip damage.

Methnerd
Methnerd

kenseis are bros

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

it's a friendly runs in anduses horizontal attacks while you almost killed a cunt giving them revenge and constantly staggering you after getting a succesful GB

viagrandad
viagrandad

That's what happened in this match. Their team was all high rep with 108 gear score and they all played terribly. But, they would kill my teammates and then I would get killed trying to 1v3 the rest of them. Then they all emote over my corpse like they're hot shit

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I know exactly what you mean. I was playing Elim as Berserker and facing up against a Warden, I deflected and he was one Heavy attack away from death, a Valk just runs in and taps him with a light and completely ruins my GB, his teammates came over right after so we lost the round too.

JunkTop
JunkTop

They're home to the same cancerous fags as every other class in the game
there are no bro-tier characters

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

it used to fuck me up when i first started playing because i was so used to blocking the zerk and roach's side step

Nojokur
Nojokur

nice fuckin' feints dude

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

literally the same feint over and over
It only looks good because the PK was braindead

Inmate
Inmate

Dodge a Conqueror's shoulder bash soundly
Go for a grab to punish it
He counters it
Every time
Go for a light
He blocks it
Every time
Literally can't punish the charge unless you double-predict it

Apparently the punishment window is 200ms (!!!), which means that even if you react fast enough, your attacks will not come out fast enough to punish it. This is retarded. Conqueror needs a straight up redesign, because even though he sucks, playing against him as anyone but Warden or Warlord is hellish.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Out of curiosity, is there ever a safe time to use the dash attack on Kenboy? In my experience it only seems safe when somebody commits to an attack, which might be hard to tell in duels and such when feints are used often but in 4v4s it's pretty easy. Against people who feint, you can at least get away with it a couple times before they get wise.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

i don't play kensei so it looked good to me.
i usually only see the top heavy unbreakable into the side heavy thing.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Tfw when facing high-rep max gear assassins and even if you massively outskill them their teammates cover for them or they can just brute force everything with feats, stats and revenge gain
Watching your team get decimated by an orochi in revenge zoning over and over

MPmaster
MPmaster

that's about it, works well after being shoved from LB. they can't help but attack afterwards, which is the perfect timing for side dash attack

RumChicken
RumChicken

not that guy but genuinely curious, please do explain why or link to source

TreeEater
TreeEater

Raider is good because he is a counter to the dominant characters right now. He can (in theory) completely counter 50/50 mixups with his dodge guard break cancels, and the defensive meta favours him because he gets MASSIVE damage off light parries. He's harder to use than some characters due to having a fairly limited toolset, but he's incredibly powerful when he works.

SniperGod
SniperGod

After maining Warlord and then dabbling in Lawbringer, playing Raider has made me such a better player in general. Also, people seem to get extra salty when they lose to a Raider, especially PK it seems.

Just hit Rep 2 and one thing I'm still having trouble with is the wall bounce/stun heavy from a throw. Sometimes it works and I get a free heavy and sometimes they just block or parry it. I've read that distance from the wall plays a factor in this. Could a raider bro please clear this up for me?

Spamalot
Spamalot

probably shoulder bash, demons embrace, charge of the oni, headsplitter leap, stampede charge, hurricane blast, storm rush, pouncing thrust, shield tackle, spear sweep, head crusher, head slicer, dashing thrust, charging shield crush, shield bash, impaling charge, long arm, shove

eGremlin
eGremlin

I am fairly sure that the longer range the throw, the longer the stun/window to start up your attack. If you throw someone into a wall then immediately do a side heavy from a decent distance, it should hit because the windup of the heavy starts as they are heading towards the wall. I have been hit by top heavies from exceptionally long range wall throws.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

pseudo-Indians

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

this

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

As I was reading this it occured to me that I may have been waiting on actually seeing them physically hit the wall to start the heavy swing instead of instinctively starting it as I let them go. I imagine I could just feint it if I call it wrong and they end up not actually hitting the wall. Shit.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

PARRY STUN STAM DRAIN FREE HEAVY, DESTROYER OF ASSASSINS

likme
likme

Happens to me so often.

slick deflect for the GB
throw for the wallbang top heavy and execute
ally leaps in out of nowhere and either pokes them with a light or slams me in the back of the head with a heavy
victim pops revenge
bash/zone spams us all to an early grave then emote spams our corpses

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Is everyone geeing this? Or just me?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

'in all aspects except physical, I am a Stark'

*dies*

massdebater
massdebater

So shug's feat that allows him to stay standing when out of stamina also prevents him from getting wall-splatted?

Firespawn
Firespawn

any ausfags want to elim? its always dead, so having people queue would be great

Nojokur
Nojokur

It is a pain. I have no trouble dodging the bash but then it just comes down to a guess.

Do I GB and risk eating a light
Do I throw a light and get parried
Do I just dodge and get GBed

With a Conq they can outlast you through a million of those exchanges, so you better guess right.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

relaunch uplay

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I'm a stark
that terrible attempt at the book version of the stark banner
I cringed

Snarelure
Snarelure

I've tried to make a habit of dodge attacking after a LB shove as Zerk but I feel like I get GBed out of the dodge start up before it registers that it is a light dodge attack. Is there a way to trigger the dodge attack better? Or should I just wait and try to deflect the light?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Nothing gets me fuming like those weird moments where they don't hit the wall, but slide along it somehow or come up a micro too short. You go for the heavy punish but before you can cancel you get GB brutalized.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Yes, if not for them losing armor and taking bonus damage on GBs it would make them total monsters. Just know to never try and wallbang combo a goki with his second feat level.

It's not nearly as bad as the other tank feat choices. Heal on block or the Damage reduction on Warlord are far worse.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Exactly.

Bidwell
Bidwell

kensei's side dash stretches far. after the shove go for the attack. unless if LB can resist attack after it ( they normally won't, it's muscle memory for them)

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

LB parries my light

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

AD
MORTEN
ALTF4

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

release
can handle 1vx situations pretty reliably
stop playing because the game is shit
come back for season 2
cant even handle 1v1 situations
cool game ubi.

Emberfire
Emberfire

warlord in duel
round starts near a ledge
they run away and wait for me to come to them
be fair and decide to play on their terms
run over to them
get a guard break off
charge them all the way back to the ledge and off
Not so simple bud

They should adjust scoring, kill stealing is rampant when playing with friends and most of the points goes to whoever gets the final hit. You can get 10 people from 100% to 10% and because someone else got the last hit every time they will have a massive killing spree and you have peanuts for assist points.

Git gud again

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

do a lot of people stream this game? if i stream would i get actual viewers?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

No and no. The big For Honor streamers already had established fanbases.

RumChicken
RumChicken

No, nobody watches streamers for this game, not compared to popular games. There's almost no competition for that reason, though. The entire 5000 PC players still around would be all yours if you had good content.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

try again with season 2 starts. interest might pique again

Firespawn
Firespawn

tfw you get a game against a streamer you know of
you know they get super salty about warden, so you pick Warden
watch their stream as you fucking demolish them
they scream and cry as you kill them ez

Supergrass
Supergrass

7 days till Centurion.

w8t4u
w8t4u

14 days till Centurion

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

dueling warden as raider
dodging to the side of his sb, but he still clips me every time
tries to tell me warden isn't op, and he has smallest moveset

warden nuke when?

Methshot
Methshot

who /sickandtired/ of shitters getting carried by gear and revenge here?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Dodge Warden's shoulder
Get hit anyway because someone was programming Euro Truck Simulator and not For Honor when they added the SB to the game
Dodge even earlier
Surprise it was a charged shoulder
Eat it
Top heavy

hairygrape
hairygrape

he bought the season pass

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

He bought For Honor

Inmate
Inmate

he owns a computer

Booteefool
Booteefool

he

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

My computer will still be usable in six months.

Methshot
Methshot

.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

he doesn't gameshare on Xbox
he doesn't have friends willing to spend money on Ubisoft
You don't need to spend money when you spend time making friends.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Hey guys how does the guaranteed GB after parry works? I always miss a step or two.

happy_sad
happy_sad

What hero are you playing as?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Currently Nobushi but it happens to other heroes as well like warden, warlord, berserker, etc. I don't really have mains.

MPmaster
MPmaster

me.
roach/PKs and their fucking revenge gain by injury bullshit.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Gameshared on xbone with a real life friend
We'd go 50/50 on games we wanted to buy
Over time however he started going "I'm not really interested in that game" when I'd ask if he wanted to split the cost, but he played the game anyway when I bought it
This paired with the fact that he just started being a dick made me severe our link and just give him his portion of the money from the games we split since they were revoked from him
Doesn't work with everyone, some people just turn into leaches

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

As Nobushi you are often too far away to get a GB because you have so much range. If you're out of range, there is just a light you can do. Kensei has long range too but he can forward dash into GB to still get it

As normal range heroes, it happens if you parry a long range class while they are too far away.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

i think some characters with longer reach only works sometimes. like nobu, kensei, lb

MPmaster
MPmaster

How does wardens crushing counter strike work?
I just started playing warden and it seems to be almost completely random to me obviously it's not and I can't figure it out

Nojokur
Nojokur

it's just a parry except you do a top light instead of a top heavy to pull it off and the timing is a little tighter

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

it's a top parry but instead of heavy you hit light

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

How about this? I'm pretty sure this is in normal range.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I wouldn't really trust any AI matches. They straight up cheat.

Skullbone
Skullbone

This is what I meant though. It happens often in duels.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Why did you change your guard stance? That may be what makes it take too long

idontknow
idontknow

Haven't really put my mind to it but I'm sure I GB'd instantly after the parry.

viagrandad
viagrandad

kbm

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I wish guard stance on mouse worked with a flick instead of a hold.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Just fought rep 30(maybe 31 I don't remember) nobushi that did the unlocked zone glitch.

Hold me guys.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

what's the unlocked zone glitch?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You know that slow ass spin attack she has?

Imagine it.

Good.

Now imagine it having 5 frames.

She unlocks and turns around, making the attack start with the same delay, but because she's turned around, the weapon hits you sooner than it would when facing you directly.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

If you unlock tech as Nobushi, then I think it becomes a crazy flicker that's unparryable and deals two heavies of damage.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Real Communism has never been done before, don't you know?
Muh totalitarian ideology only requires complete control of thought, government and rights to work so we can make everyone equal in outcome.
Then once everything is perfect the government will just relinquish its power down to lower and lower levels of governments until we have autonomous tribes that work off of consensus.

The ends justify the means.

Techpill
Techpill

This is the kind of stuff that will make ranked mode a fucking meme when it gets introduced. It's going to be nothing but faggots abusing the latest exploits and acting like it's skill

eGremlin
eGremlin

That move isn't even slow. It fucking hits you when the naginata is sideways.
The indicator shows up as it's hitting you, not before.

Not to mention she can cancel the second hit into her dodge heavies that do about a bar each while coming out as fast a her lights.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

new order for 5 elimination games as assassin
may as well level up pk against AI so i'm not ruining someone else's experience
first bot opponent is warden, level 3, parries and feints
whatever, kill him
get jumped by a zerker bot during execution
pop revenge, about to zone spam
the very first one gets parried

I had no idea they could be this scary

Bidwell
Bidwell

player is actually just straight up cheating
call him out
"just learn to counter it lol"

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

The AI is just weird about what moves it will react to and won't.
Kinda reminds me of level 9 AI from Smash Bros where it would do a dice roll every time you hit them to decide if they're gonna perfect block your move or not.

I've had AI deflect lights out of neutral and I've had them eat 3 unblockables in a row that could easily be parried.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

The bot's get better based on your own skill, and they can get surprisingly good.
I've had bots fucking cream me in less then 30 seconds before just cause I wasn't expecting them to actually play the game.

DeathDog
DeathDog

3 am on a tuesday
every game mode is in "very high"
did the game get a sale or something? It's pretty rare for anything other then dominion to have very high, especially right now.

massdebater
massdebater

It would be nice if Ubisoft would actually fix their ""tech"" glitches and actually give us higher level tech like GB feinting or more soft feints like Raider/Ken/Zerk instead of Zone flickers.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Just like tournaments

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Probably means very high percentage.

StonedTime
StonedTime

It's like there are other parts of the world, what the fuck?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

The tournaments are a complete joke, and it's amazing that they allow all these blatant fucking exploits.
Warlord in the last tournament spent 90% of the game just unlock running into a charge or zone
I mean come the fuck on, at a certain point you just tell the guy to fucking stop or he's disqualified

massdebater
massdebater

Is this really true? It would explain why all the bots in my vs AI games are level 3. I haven't seen a level 1-2 bot in a really long time.

Techpill
Techpill

It's got nothing to do with other parts of the world, I play at this time almost every night and nothing but dominion is every at very high, where as tonight elimination, duel, and dominion all are.

Methnerd
Methnerd

This game can't be taken seriously and it's solely the player bases fault.
Other fighting games have shitty exploits like that, but you literally never see people using them in a competitive scene because the responses will be the community laughing at you and tournaments telling you to fuck off, but here when you do it the response is "Just learn to counter it" or literally just "get good".
It's fucking garbage.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

that picture made me laugh harder than i should have

SniperWish
SniperWish

M&KB is a meme stop using it

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Just mix all your shit up and get your parries down.

You should never do top heavies with conq it's slower and does the same dmg so no point in going for it.

About that superior heavy vid ye those are kinda your superior block heavies but normally they should be blockable (they can hit but the timing is thight) so don't rely too much on them.

It's better to parry (you can do a save parry by holding your heavy so if it was a feint you'll just charge it, but beware people can free gb you in that animation) or gb them when you block their heavy.

my.mixtape.moe/fubfsu.mp4

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

It's because the game is already unbalanced as shit, and for whatever reasons tournaments are slow as shit to ban flat out exploits that aren't meant to be in the game.
That and the turtle meta makes tournaments ridiculous because unless you play Warlord or Warden you have no way to open people up from neutral.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

tfw you group up with a couple random guys and just play Dom with them for hours
Co-operate effectively

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

holy shit i didn't even think about just holding RT to parry, that's fuckin genius

Skullbone
Skullbone

i can land a side heavy off a gb right?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

500xp for 400 soldiers
I remember getting like 1000 for killing 300.

girlDog
girlDog

Ye it's pretty good if you're still need to train your parries. Most people do heavy feint into gb so just be carefull cuz you won't be able to cgb it.

Yes it should be 100% guaranteed (obv. don't go for top heavies). I'm on pc but I heard it sometimes doesn't work on consoles idk.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

100% guaranteed
people keep telling me that but I swear to christ it's not for LB

Emberfire
Emberfire

60fps
plays like 30-40 fps

NOICE

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Never had any issues with not landing my side heavies on any of the characters (been playing conq for 14reps now). When I gb I just immediately tap my heavy (Only go for charged ones if you can throw stagger them into a wall).

takes2long
takes2long

Getting money involved and trying to split things seems like it would kill it, my friends and I have accounts linked up just because there's no reason not to, it's mutually beneficial. Only a couple ever try to divy up for games but rarely, there's no expectations just pleasant surprises in your install list. Seriously surprised Microsoft hasn't addressed it, between all of us there's a mountain of licensing bullshit that would make a lawyer cum in his pants.

Inmate
Inmate

parrying as conq is a waste of time imo

if they do a light just dodge into it and bash->light them for big stamina damage and some hp damage

if they go for a heavy just block it and GB them for free

superior block heavy can be parried by enemies and will almost always be blocked, its not worth trying. a blocked heavy for a character with tiny stamina pool and for whom stamina management is super important can turn a round against you

only time parry really useful to conq is vs opponents that spam raw lights, and even then its only worth it if you need to get a parry into GB for a ledge kill

for anyone else reading, conq's light infinite chain is actually more useful than it appears at first. if your opponent has a habit of mashing lights after your first light from a light bash, you can counter them on reaction by delaying your inputs and keeping the chain going. remember you can end it with a heavy at any time after two lights, and you can also instant cancel your heavies and lights with fullguard, giving conq the fastest feint in the game.

remember you can cancel your zone attack after the first swing. you can let it go as many times as your stamina will allow, but even tho just tapping the input produces 2 swings, pressing B/feint/cancel right away shortens it to one swing. now conq's zone doesnt appear that good at first, its weak and has short range, but its fairly fast, like 6-700ms, and it hits guards with the impact of a heavy. this is important for conq because you can follow up a blocked ZA with a free bash->light vs most characters, and if it gets parried, more than half the characters in the game cant GB you off the parry, meaning that its a high reward/low risk move thats excellent for keeping up pressure and ledging. you can also let it swing twice to catch dodging assassins and it has full guard during the second part of the animation. just bear in mind that it costs shitloads of stamina and an exhausted conq gets pulped by bashes

Snarelure
Snarelure

the reason you'll fail a side heavy follow up with conq from GB is if you mash the input on pad, because of the amount of room a trigger moves and deadzones, a mashed right trigger can be read as a held right trigger, or a charged heavy in other words, and the extra few ms of charge time allows the attack to be blocked

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

which GoT character would be each for honor hero?
nobushi - oberyn martell
shugoki - robert baratheon
lawbringer - gregor clegane
warlord - tormund giantsbane
warden - jamie lannister / brienne of tarth
peacekeeper - waif

TreeEater
TreeEater

conq - bronn

Snarelure
Snarelure

fuck this nigger wank of a game

Soft_member
Soft_member

Conq is Ned because he is fucking dead.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

And died in season 1. Damn. Thought of that too late to add it before it posted.

Supergrass
Supergrass

what do you guys think is the lowest tier character? like absolute dogshit

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Not really anyone, I'd say pk or warden, but if someone's good at the class then they're still really good.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Conq or Kensei. Both are useless as shit in competitive now but can still kill shit against normies.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I mean kensei was always useless in competitive, not only now.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

The game is actually pretty well balanced, all things considered. There's a few hideously OP outlying characters (Warlord, PK), but besides that everyone's pretty balanced. I'd say Berzkerker is just a worse PK in literally every way in duels, so maybe Berzerker?

My personal tier list would be:

Warlord, Peacekeeper
Warden
Raider
Lawbringer
Orochi, Berzerker,
Conqueror, Shugoki, Kensei
Nobushi (if not using unlock tech)

Booteefool
Booteefool

Everyone his own playstyle I guess. I'm not in the mood to sb my opponent 15 times so I can run into the issue of health regen.

I rather parry so I can make use of my combos e.g. throw them into a wall hit them for 33 with a lvl 1 charged heavy, heavy feint into gb for another heavy into a sb and continue until your stam is almost gone.

Your light chain sure it can be unpredictable sometimes, but after you used it once people will be rdy to punish you for it.

And zone attack has never been my thing I only use it in dominion. Too much stam drain for what u get.

It's good that people have different playstyles. You can learn certain things from each other.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Conq
Useless

Pick one noob

The tier list in fh currently for 1v1 at 60fps, without taking exploit abuse into account is

Warlord
Warden
Pk
Raider
The rest

girlDog
girlDog

guess the character

viagrandad
viagrandad

There's Warden, Kensei and Orochi. I can't decide out of any of those.

idontknow
idontknow

okay then kensei is bran because he spends most of the time watching other people fight waiting to respawn

Snarelure
Snarelure

Centurion from the future

SniperWish
SniperWish

Why is raider considered top 5 now?

Before, he was considered trash tier, what changed? Is it just because some streamer said so?

Him being capable of teching a GB mid-dash is great, but that's only useful against the characters with a good mix-up, and even then it's just an escape, not a counter.

His parry damage can be amazing but nobody ever throws out attacks anyway so that hardly matters in "high-level" play.

As far as I know, the top tier characters are considered top tier because they have a way to break turtles. Whether it's through mix-up guessing games or fast attacks is irrelevant. Raider has nothing of the sort. His soft feint stun tap can be parried easily by anyone who knows it exists. His command unblockable is only useful on an out-of-stam opponent, but nobody is ever going to be out of stamina if they don't throw attacks out in the first place.

I'm genuinely curious as to why he's considered strong now. Not being sarcastic.

takes2long
takes2long

Because people figured out Raider's dash-GB breaks 80% of all cheese in the game.

Skullbone
Skullbone

He's strong by virtue of his dash guard break. He can safely dodge almost 100% of the time when an enemy does a shoulder bash, and can immediately punish after that if he is successful. If a top tier character with a shoulder bash can't actually use their shoulder bash, they are force to use the rest of their kit.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

In other words, Raider became as strong as he is because he's one of the only characters in the game who cannot be cheesed.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

So how bad is shinobi gonna break the game?
I want to think they wouldn't give him a ranged GB like that without serious downsides, but considering how they've balanced the rest of the game, I'm kind of scared.

massdebater
massdebater

he's basically impossible to GB if the raider player in any good. he's always been the hard counter to warden, he was early season 1 conq's counter

basically he can dodge any attack, bash, or dodge vs a feint and then CGB while in the middle of his dodge

he's also pretty decent otherwise. even without that unique ability he would be better than a couple of classes.

Flameblow
Flameblow

wait. so you're saying go full block stance do my zone attack, stop it after one swing, shield bash and then hit with a light?

WebTool
WebTool

No, the za has full block after the second swing so it's a good counter to assassins that immediately go for side dash lights when they're under pressure

What I usually do is bash-light-za cancel

If the za hits or isn't parried and they're still on the stage, I do another bash light. It's pretty much guaranteed that you can hit them again if they block a za cancel because it hits with the force of a heavy buy recovers as fast as a light. If it is parried start moving back, most characters will attempt a GB on reaction, but it'll whiff and then you get a free gb-heavy

iluvmen
iluvmen

Even if he's immune to cheesing because of dash GB, I wouldn't consider him top tier. Definitely not trash tier, but I don't see how he can be considered top tier when he has nothing to break a turtle. And once the cheese finds out he's immune to cheese, the cheese is going to turtle.

SniperWish
SniperWish

roach

happy_sad
happy_sad

if you accept that he's immune to cheesing then the raider just has to turtle himself. cheesing is a byword for "bashing" and raider is more or less immune to bash based offfense

he levels the playing field. thats why he's top tier. he turns almost every match up that would be otherwise unfavourable into a contest of pure skill.

and then theres the fact that he has above average rewards across the board for defensive play. his GB, parry and wallsplat rewards are pretty good and he has the second best exhaustion punish in the game. his parry into gb-throw drains a phenomenal amount of stamina from his opponent

King_Martha
King_Martha

high activity elim
can't get a match

I just want to do my contracts

farquit
farquit

try it vs a bot. light bash->light->ZA cancel

if they get hit you can either reset to neutral having done a decent bit of damage or go for another bash->light vs a slow/heavy character

if they block they get stumbled because of the heavy impact property of the move, its a free bash->light for you because it has the recovery speed of a light, you get what would be referred to in a fighting game as frame advantage on block

if they parry, it depends on the character and player how that goes. most players arent used to conq's ZA, or any attack for that matter out of neutral so their instinct if they get the parry is to go for a GB. but for whatever reason, parrying conq's ZA puts loads of distance between the players and only raider and shug get a GB on it off the top of my head, the other characters whiff it or you can CGB it. you can CGB PK for example, and if warden tries to GB you it just comes up short and whiffs and lets you GB him for free

because of the heavy impact of it, its a great ledging tool too. like lets say you bash->light someone and theyre near a ledge now but they didnt fall. let the ZA rip immediately and it'll either knock them right off because of the huge hitbox and stumble on hit, or put them in a position to be finished off by either of the methods described above

as i said it costs a lot of stamina to cancel ZA though, some players like this guy have no room for it in their playstyle, so it might not fit for you, and either way has to be used very carefully

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

i remember in the beta i got a double kill (almost a triple) with the zone attack it was pretty funny
roach and pk spamming lights from my right side as i'm fighting a warden
some how get roach and PK in a corner behind me while defending myself against the warden
blocking all the light spam from tweedle dee and tweedle fucking retarded gives me revenge
use revenge as they both swing at me
while they're laying on their ass i start to zone attack
use zone attack for the length of my revenge
frantically swinging heavies in what i guess were parry attempts
warden took a couple swings trying to interrupt me only to get hit
roach and pk are dead and warden is pretty low on health from trying to bail out those dunces
wow!
wow!
wow!
wow!
wow!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

maintenance

also, new thread where?

idontknow
idontknow

Warden is such a meme character

Techpill
Techpill

make it yourself too bee haych

farquit
farquit

if warden had his SB rebalanced to be faster in starting up. faster than shove but slower than shield bash, and had a 20 damage follow up but thats all, no instant GB bullshit, he would be so much more respectable

i like the rest of his kit and aesthetics

Nojokur
Nojokur

I've barely playued warden and it was all in the alpha/betas, can he cancel his SB?
I constantly see wardens going from a SB instantly into a normal GB, is it just them mashing GB or what?

Spamalot
Spamalot

not ded thred

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