Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

No.

heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/chromie#gR8x

FTFY

>people play like idiots
>leave because they are being punished for playing like idiots
>teammate rages and goes to feed because things aren't going his way
>pubs who doing nexus vsing 4 stack vets

Fuck this i'm going to play some DOW 3

>no spell power
>no free extra nuke every q
>NO 50% SLOW FOR FOUR FUCKING SECONDS
Ult and the two tiers after are acceptable alternatives, depends on the match really.
>Not taking EVEN MORE KEKAIKUDORI hourglasses to shit on the enemies hopes of ever getting anywhere near the objective
bro zone harder, are you even trying? you literally built for aram stomping.

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

Who is the most virtuous mortal in the nexus?

Valla is probably too busy hunting monsters to get laid desu

>STILL no Warcraft map when Alterac Valley is a perfect fit for HOTS.

REMINDER

>team isnt destroying forts in hanamura to speed things up
>match lasts more than 30 mins
kill me

>No Warsong Gulch

What kinda loot does she drop?

Nope.

As far as I know it's just regular armor.

So when do they start reorganizing heroes into multi-class?
Like Tyrande as Assassin/Support
or Uther as Support/Warrior

Who has the best skins?

Assassin
strawpoll.me/12960955
Warrior
strawpoll.me/12960959
Support
strawpoll.me/12960960
Specialist
strawpoll.me/12960961

Had to separate them because I couldn't fit any more into the first

I swear there are so many retarded faggots in this game just throwing matches.
>lock in a shit hero
>either dropout or do nothing
>pick high skill hero
>when you know you have a shit connection and toaster
Its deciding 25% of my matches. I just want to know what is the thought process of these stupid little shits.
They queue for up to 4 minutes and waste 20 minutes and then requeue all day.

Why even join ranked with this attitude? Why even load the game, start your computer or wake up?

Eh, thought he was some sort of cyborg like Grievous since his hands and feet look too thin to be armor over flesh.

I have a toaster and a shit connection and I play heros like alarak just fine
they need to get gud

No you don't when you are dropping out of the game and crashing you stupid fuck.

>It's a "teammate throws game by playing aggressively while down a talent" episode
>It's a "teammate rages at the guy trying to get us to level 10" episode

Why is memebeam tassadar so much fun? Bully Genji's all day with this shit.

POST CUTE AURIEL, GIVE HER SOME LOVE!

They said they weren't.

You do know his Deflect probably rapes that because of how fast Tass attack right?

Aurigasm best emoji

who?

>He Deflects
>Just walk into him while not attacking until it wears off
>Proceed to bully him harder

???

tfw genji dives on you in a teamfight and deflects and your team tries to burst him like retards and you die to like 1200 deflect

not that user but the free 80% slow is plenty, no need for extra time traps tbqh

agree on the ability power though, I'd only consider shifting sands if I was also going to take the double Q talent. otherwise it's quantum overdrive baby

i want to buy gul'dan but i feel like he's gonna get nerfed

He's already been nerfed. He's fine as he is.

>playing support
>enemy assassins walk right through my entire team to dive me
>I die or am forced out of the fight
>team then dies
>allies: "HEALS/?"

this really butters my biscuits

Can I ask you why you guys think the maps in HOTS are actually good?

In my opinion the only well made map is Cursed Hollow. I feel like I always see these opinions on maps and I never actually see WHY they are good.

Let me eloborate:

Reasons why Cursed Hollow is a great map:
>The main gimmick, the curse is a 3/3 objective meaning that you have to successfully obtain it 3 times to get the objective. Which also means that your team can tactically give the objective up in favor of sieging, ganking or soaking. Options are what makes a map great.
>Even once you get the objective (curse) you still need to be able to do something with it. Meaning that if you let them defend it, it will do almost nothing, and on the flipside if they aren't able to defend it, it will kill their base- but with minimal to good effectiveness. Combined with your team and a boss though and things start to heat up.
>Whilst trying to obtain the Curse, your hero is visible to the enemy and thus, any team that isn't fit to fight can play the poke game and prolong the objective.
>Large Map, creating more fight combinations and less of the 5v5 stalemate.
>Objective doesn't destroy the enemies core, and thus gives you the satisfaction of killing it with your team.
>Has 2 well placed vision areas, that give vision in what is mostly an uncontested spot. This makes them great when you happen to be there, but otherwise mostly useless.

Now, In my opinion Towers of Doom and Hanamura are absolute garbage. But Id like to hear why people think they're good if they are good. Also I really don't want to hear shit like "I like the aesthetic" because that crap has almost no effect on gameplay bar feeling good and potentially playing better because of it.

Hero that can disguise as other heroes when?

Tweaked probably, Not likely to be nerfed.
Hes kinda really hard to deal with if built right, I would say its likely his numbers will be adjusted eventually.

He's got a lot of damage output but is very immobile.
Using knockbacks or stuns to interrupt his drain life is a good way to make his day miserable.

When it's released in OW

>getting ready to gank lilis boipussy
>suddenly turns into a 8 foot tall changeling with no face
>shouts 'SURPRISE!' and suddenly its my boipussy being ganked
could be fun i guess but it would have to be a tank

Towers of Doom forces you to teamfight but also allows for alternative win conditions with camp pressure, taking bell towers, boss, etc. It's a well made map.

I'm convinced everyone hates Hanamura because they aren't playing it correctly and it needs a bit of tuning. People ignore fucking camps on that map like the plague and it's clear that Blizz intended the camps to be a bigger deal. Having pocket fights around payloads and boss is fun, don't care what anyone says.

Other maps have ups and downs, but objectives are supposed to be a big deal, that's the thing with this game so it should be true for all maps.

Never because it wouldn't work

>Get hit by Nazeebo once
>Take 70% damage
haha epic this is so fun thank god they nerfed my favorite hero then buffed this piece of shit

Belial ?
That does sound like a pretty shitty ability considering it's a moba and you have a minimap

valeera palyers btfo

His deflect is instant and your beam attacks faster than pretty much every auto attack in the game and at lvl 7 he can take a talent to lowe the cooldown of deflect and he also out damages you. Not to mention he has some of the most mobility in the game so even if you some how sneak up on him and he's low health he just dashes or jumps away.

Are you the guy that was trying to say Chen counted Varian by chance?

im not a valeera player you stupid nigger fuck off and die

Towers of doom is one of the few maps where a specialist stays relevant the entire game.
Siege down all the outer forts and you start having trouble doing anything as a specialist, get the inners and you literally have no job anymore except getting camps that anyone can clear.

I think the cores need more health for longer matches to encourage more variety in play.
I keep getting groups that all but give up after one fort goes down.

Abathur buffs when

Cant be valeera, she has more health than that.

Er, I should clarify that I'm talking Hanamura's core health. Towers of Doom has a good health amount.

Honestly?
I like braxis and towers of doom.
They both reward lane control and pacing yourself between objectives.
I feel like specialist are strong on both maps but not broken like on hanamura and fucking shrines, fuck that map.
Dragonshire is ok I guess

tass attacks once every 0.25 secs
unless you're over 60 I doubt you'll get more than 2 attacks on a deflect

>there will never be loli versions of all the characters

Would you rather face a Tassadar with stimpack + raynor w + Cloned by aba raynor w or a team of 5 morales
keep in mind stimpack does actually stack exactly how you might imagine it does.

Here's why Towers of Doom is garbage:

>Its far too small.
This means that most fights are 5v5's and that is bad for a moba, regardless of if that moba was designed around the holy trinity. Small maps also mean that once you start losing you almost always lose the game. My point is that if you win a team fight, off that team fight comes a structure kill and all the objectives. Then that happens again except you get more, and you snowball like that until you win. This is ultimately horrible design because again, it comes back to simply the 5v5, and the draft and almost nothing more.

>You don't get the satisfaction of destroying the enemy base
Seriously why the fuck are people okay with this? Clicking a shrine to deal damage? Moving a cart to deal damage? I can't be the only person who thinks that this is absolutely fucking absurd.

>No options
Yeah you can "choose" to not contest a shrine, but ultimately it's still going to damage your base and that's the same choice as saying "Well I choose not to take a team fight so I don't feed". That is a choice on every single map, and ultimately the map plays out the same way, every game. You get shrines, then you see how many of them are dead and you either push a fort or you take out the boss.

And because, like I said there's people like you out there that believe what they say (whatever) I'd like you to think about Hanamura. How often do the 2nd tier forts get killed in that game. Think about taht for a second. And why the same mechanics cause Towers of doom to be a fucking shit map. You're not playing a moba with depth anymore on those maps, you're playing a 5v5 simulator and that proof I just stated above is absolutely why.

Tassadar. The team of 5 morales would never die

Deflect lasts 1.25 seconds. So that's 5 and even if you stopped auto attacking if he stands in your puddle, that's being deflected. If your not hurting him, than your not bullying him. Fuck Tass isn't even good anymore. Haven't you noticed how double supports are becoming really strong and yet Tassadar is getting all but ignored. They nerfed his shield into the ground and that's the only thing he was good for after they nerfed Archon again.

how is playing healer supposed to be fun you get dove by everything

16 morales attacks per second sounds pretty scary desu
even besides the fact that they would have so much healing it would be almost impossible to kill them
Now... tassadar with 4 morales...

Do you guys save your loot boxes or do you open them immediately?

Should I stockpile them?

Your armchair bronzie opinion is worthless.

>can't comeback on ToD
o i am laffin

Why does chu8 get away with trolling every game? No one else does it unpunished...normally.

>>No options
You can take a tower instead of a shrine, or take the boss, or go for neutrals
They all damage the enemy core just like on any other map.

Now....Zul'jin with 4 Morales....

>Seriously why the fuck are people okay with this? Clicking a shrine to deal damage? Moving a cart to deal damage? I can't be the only person who thinks that this is absolutely fucking absurd.
Killing a boss to kill off the enemy core? Kill enough little shits to spawn a boss that kills the enemy core?
It's all the same shit except on doom/hanamura you can't rush the core

How about Lucio, Morales, Cho'Gall and Abathur riding Cho?

Through a method that doesn't involve a 5v5 team fight?

Do you see why you have down syndrome x10?

More than once I've come back from 1-3 core health even when down a full 20+ on TOD
its actually fairly possible to make a comeback because theres no way for people to win any faster than the game lets them.

>wahhh we have to team fight in a team fight game
What exactly is your criticism? That this game is different and you don't like it?

Comebacks on Towers of Doom are only through throws and shit play. That isn't the same thing.

This
if you stop them from taking objectives you don't slowly lose like you do on braxis and cursed, the other team actually has to fucking win to win

whats Zul'jins max attackspeed?

shoo shoo blizz jew

Bets?

Probius

Im going to blatantly call you retarded in 5 seconds.

What you just typed was:
"Wah Im forced to play the only way the game wants me to play"
"What exactly is your criticism"

You're absolutely fucking retarded.

Specialist sneaks a tower and then does a camps to widdle down core.

anub

I've walked camps into the core to comeback and win countless times on ToD. You're deluded and your complaints a shit.

>That the game lets them
that fucking shit is the worst by the way
>Get wiped in a 5man teamfight, lose objective
>10 seconds from respawning
>I TIRE OF YOUR GAME MORTALS
>lose two objectives on one teamfight
>later we wipe them
>No objective spawns for the next 10 minutes
is it just me being dumb and its all on a timer or is it as random as it feels?

From a normal loot box.

Guess them

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

niooooooooooooooooooce

Timer after the last objective has done it's thing

SHOO SHOO
BLIZZARD JEW

No my friend. Hots is dead, and you are the minority who thinks this game is good.

Just because your surrounded by idiocy does not make you smart.

Literally: D E S O L A T E D.

If you capture all the forts it will auto fire the core.

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>Tfw people dont understand why i intentionally left the top fort at 5% health and go kill it while im trying to get another fort low
REEEEE
LET ME SPECIALIST
I KNOW WHAT IM DOING

>Be shit at HOTS
>Win TOD because I play hammer and enemy team lets me kill the forts
>LMAO I LOVE TOD YEAH SO GOOD

AHHHAHHhahahahahhahahahaahhaahahahaahhahahahha

>ID ONT EVEN HAVE TO MOVE MY CAMERA BECAUSE IT SEES THE ENTIRE MAP HAHAHAH YEAH

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