>What is a "Hot Hatch"? A Hot Hatch is a manufacturer produced, performance oriented variant of a standard hatchback, designed for improved handling, increased top speed, acceleration and generally enhance the driving experience.
>Are all Hot Hatches FWD? No. Whilst most Hot Hatches are FWD, some are AWD or even RWD.
>Isn't FWD shit? No. Just because you can't get the arse out by stamping on the accelerator doesn't mean you can't have fun.
>Aren't Hot Hatches just for Europoors? No; Hot Hatches have been a thing for the US since the 90s, took a dip in the mid 00s and are gaining momentum again.
Comfy picture and nice hatch. I'd post mine but I don't want to derail the thread into a shitfest so soon.
Lincoln Stewart
>mazda 3 >fucking veloster >no french hot hatches to be seen
sort yourself out
Sebastian Perry
You have a Type R, don't you?
Hunter Robinson
Just finished installing rice on mine.
Noah Foster
Im picking up my FoST in 12h. Its a 2015. Im pretty excited desu. Any common problems on these?
Hudson Cox
No, it's even more homosexual than that.
Bentley Lewis
anyone waiting on parts?
ordered some stoptech rotors off amazon so they'd be here before track time. have new hawk pads for front and rear. also doing an oil change then have a time attack i'm going to on 19. old pic
Jonathan Sullivan
Veloster?
Jeremiah Green
Got an EWG sitting on the shelf waiting to go on, need to retune the car so I can add the Cobb traction control. Other than that, maybe swapping turbos in a few more months, or doing springs/coilovers and a BBK.
Maybe a trip up to the Dragon later this month and doing tires in a bit.
Mason Murphy
Eh, maybe a bit less.
Jacob Green
>100% of first post is answering questions nobody asked Here's a new question - have you considered this is just a circlejerk where you're trying to distort reality because you've made a horrible decision and bought a complete shit box? >No. Blah blah blah capital No, then some bland nothing bullshit for 250 pseudo posts where you pretend to "fit in"
Landon Reyes
>I bought a mini-minivan, watch me rationalize my faggotry
Grayson Flores
Thanks. Post it anyways. Brake dust. Lots of fucking brake dust.
Evan Gomez
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Eli Rodriguez
Not yet, I'm debating on ordering some new OEM style headlights though since mine are toast.
Robert Barnes
Alright, here it is. Maybe she'll grow into the driveway, for now it's a little too big.
Alexander Collins
Too small for me, but they do sound nice.
Nicholas Phillips
>tfw Richard Hammond-sized so it doesn't bother me I looked at FiSTs as well, but couldn't find any at a decent price in my area, but I always smile when I see them.
Bentley Clark
Currently waiting for some control arms so I can get an alignment. I installed the lower set last night after giving up doing them on top. I need to remove a subframe bushing as some idiot put the inboard bolt in the wrong way. I'm trying to get all my maintenance done for my Tail of the Dragon trip in a few weeks.
Christian Smith
What's wrong with the maz? I was planning on getting one as a babby's first car.
Jason Gutierrez
nothing wrong with them. they just aren't a hot hatch
William Nguyen
I want one, too, but even the 2.5l is more of a warm hatch than a hot hatch. Handles well, but it's not especially quick.
Elijah Lee
I may have the opportunity to get a brand new 2016 Veloster turbo 6mt for like half MSRP. It would take over DD duty from my NA miata.
Should I do it? The veloster was never really on my radar but if I could get an insane deal on one well that changes things...
William Cook
>half the MSRP I'm guessing you mean 12-13k. It's like that because no one wants them.
Noah Hughes
>Are all Hot Hatches FWD? which one is RWD?
Jackson Ross
BMW M135i is the first one that comes to mind, and I know there are a few random ones that are RWD. Not many, though.
Elijah Reyes
Just bought a '14 GTI a couple weeks ago. Pretty happy with it so far, it's so much nicer than my '06 Si.
Cooper Harris
Smart TwoFour
Brandon Wood
Nice hatch mate. I absolutely love the purr of that 3.2. I wish they hadn't have done away with the r32 platform. How do you like yours?
Charles Garcia
I like mine. Gonna trade it in towards the 2019 (or whatever year) when they give it the N package.
Nathan Foster
Thanks, I really love the car. And yes, the sound is amazing. There is a little box to quiet the exhaust for sound pollution. The first thing I did was get rid of that. It is a shame the US only got two years of the R32, and the mkv didn't even get a manual transmission. I'm thinking about finding a VR6 GTI for a project car because I like the engine so much
Sebastian King
I know there are a few C30s on o
where u at
Colton Jenkins
How is the C30? I love the look and the minimalist interior.
Logan Wright
>Smart >hatchback What you smokin?
Michael Johnson
Nu-male redditor general
Ayden Walker
>Type R >Gay Kys yourself
Adrian Perry
Abarth, then?
Cooper Long
Busriders, gentlem/o/n,
Josiah Wright
This. Good car, good build/interior quality, powertrain is just a bore. You could do a million times worse for a vehicle, though.
Mazadaspeed plz come back.
Julian Wright
MK7? Check your MY and turbo revision; be thorough in review. MY 14 and 15 GTIs had some serious turbo problems in early batches. If your IS20 is K or better, you should be alright.
Nathan Anderson
I fucking hate Velosters; they're boring, uninspired, slow pieces of hot garbage compared to their competition. That being said I actually hope any N treatment they get makes them real competition to VW, Ford, etc. They need it so we're not stuck with minor cosmetic upgrades at 10 HP tune boosts every year from factory.
Lucas Watson
>Type R >Overhyped and overpriced as fuck >Larger wingspan than a 747 >Appeals to those that fall under global rule 2
Back to bed, Timmy.
Luis Baker
MK6, actually. Thanks for the heads up though, that could have been some shit.
Logan Peterson
Fuck, nice find mate. MY 12, 13, and 14 of the MK6 are solid AF. Your only issue may be the water pump. Have the mounting points looked at. At factory they may have been overtightened which causes the housing to crack and stress overtime (final problem: leaking). If you have warranty ask the tech to take a look at it. Otherwise you should be good; my '10 MK6 was great.
William Gonzalez
are you guys ready for the new king of hothatch ? you preordered yours right?
Luis Jones
Anyone here have the mountune high flow exhaust for the FoST?
Ethan King
Nope. No preorder. But I do hope it does well and surprises Hyundai haters (including myself). The more hot hatches we have to choose from, the better.
Thomas Turner
i hope they do an AWD 350hp+ version of it
Dominic Fisher
I've had a 2015 3 with the 2.5l for a while now. It's high school kid fast, enough to pass most people on the highway but not necessarily fast fast, if that makes sense. However, it's a very nice DD cuz good gas mileage and okay transmission. I wish tuning options existed but everything I've found consists of ECU flashes and eBay turbos.
Jackson Barnes
Hey guy. Hey. Its okay. I have a mustang and a GTI. I like both. Should I trade both for a truck?
Kayden Sanchez
the only thing you've got right is it's overpriced
Noah Johnson
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Andrew Davis
My favorite hothatch is the prius.
Eli Martin
While not necessarily hot hatches I've got two cars in front of me and I intend to buy one. The first is a 2015 Hyandai Accent Sport Hatchback with six speed manual and 30,000 on the clock. The second is a 2015 Focus SE hatchback with 40,000 on the clock and the six speed double clutch manumatic.
Is one better than the other? I've never owned cars made by either manufacturer. I've owned several Mitsubishi and a couple Olds. I've wrenched on Ford engines inside of Mercury's before and they've been a pain in the ass.
Focus is red with black interior. Accent is black with black interior.
Justin Gonzalez
Which engines are we talking here? I've heard Ford has issues with their dual-clutch. Would avoid the Focus based on that.
And finally, if you can take both for a test drive, do so and pick the one you prefer.
Jonathan Torres
If you're smart, you'll stay away from the focus and the horrible DCT.
Ian Lewis
If i ever decided to get rid of my gti for an R i'd love to do a TT tranny swap to a mk5 r32. I think it'd be a blast but i'm not sure how hard it would be to do in practice.
Ryan Thompson
The last thing you can call the Veloster is uninspired. Looks like nothing else on the road.
Like the other Velosterbro I am excitedly waiting for the nextgen. I think the nextgen is going to be a remarkable improvement, specifically the N. The i30 N (Elantra GT in the States) is already pretty awesome. The new Veloster will basically be the same car except slightly smaller.
Gabriel Ortiz
The Hyundai has better predictable reliability.
Luke Adams
It is advertised and commonly known as a hatchback.
That would be a fun project. I'm pretty new to wrenching, but I'm trying to do everything I can that I have the tools / space for. I see there is a manual swap thread for the mk5 on vortex. Lots of little odds and ends but the end result looks awesome.
Owen Hill
Anyone here has some experience with 206 or Ek Civic? Mostly having RC and vti versions in mind. Looking for some cheap and fast 2/3 door hatch and can't really make up my mind but these two seem like the best bet (Slav shithole so they are under 4/5k $ in non-tragic condition)
Christian Rivera
Hot Hatch? more like Thot Hatch amirite? haha
Chase Walker
I can only hope they do away with the retarded 4 door design.
If the interior is good yeah I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Also, Shingo.
Cameron Green
is my civic sport hot
Bentley King
How can people even like The focus or fiesta ST? It's boring and slow in all situations. Just got done doing the Ford racing school. You can drive these "hot hatches" on the very edge of grip with 1 hand on the wheel while talking with an instructor. So underwhelming.
Jaxson Edwards
I asked them what parts of the car broke under heavy abuse and they said "nothing stock car is reliable" Kept shilling how the ST was the ultimate performance car but as the day went on I found more and more shit replaced with aftermarket parts. The entire cooling systems were aftermarket Full exhaust No cats and a tune All had short shifters Clutch Return springs removed
Caleb Adams
>a 180hp car is pretty slow guys wow a real sherlock holmes
Evan Robinson
Hey /hhg/ getting a new car soon. Going to be my first car buying as a DD. want something from the last 3-5 years. The newer the car the less cool I can afford (looking at a 2016 focus titanium rn) what would be some good options for a $15-$20 newer hatch that can commute, have a little fun, and not be too much work/$ to keep in working order?
Currently 2014/2015 golf GTI's are around $20k but I'm unsure I can secure a good loan for a used "performance car"
Andrew Turner
Was disappointed by the Veloster turbo. Driving it was less exciting than my r55 mini Clubman 124hp and no turbo.
I love the styling of the Elantra gt and hopefully this sport version can get the car some more attention. Its weird that Hyundai chooses to peddle the Veloster over the Elantra gt to begin with, especially if they are attempting to undercut the hot hatch market now.
Adam Jackson
I have fun with mine. Maybe you're just sad and broken.
Ethan Hernandez
Not everybody has same taste as you. I test drive fiesta st when it first came to USA, I thought they were boring. I didn't care for focus st also, they felt like updated mazdaspeed3, terrible
Jeremiah Foster
if youre looking to daily drive it and only for 5 years or so a focus st is a good choice, as is a mazdaspeed 3 from 2014 ish
also both of those leave money leftover for maintenance or tint or whatever
Luke Torres
You're in the minority then, most people I talk to have fun with the ST's.
Luis Wood
The focus st is 250 stock and probably 275 with those mods and tune.
Of ur standards are low, I'm sure having fun with those shit boxes is possible. 70mph through turn 2, tires screeching, But was still boring
I could tell the instructor was bored as well. Dude shook my hand in the middle of turn 3 at like 50mph.
The autocross was slightly better, doing e-brake J-turns was entertaining. But a fwd ST is still a poor choice for this.
Adam Nguyen
So you're saying it's a car easy to drive at the limits, while retaining daily functionality?
Kayden Anderson
Yes, but that makes it boring as fuck. There isn't any thrill in that
If a novice like me can max out the STs performance after 10 laps, the skill cap is stupid low. The gt350 or SS1le has my attention though
Logan Moore
Nice color, other than that absolute rubbish.
Robert Young
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Matthew Davis
Why are you cross shopping FF hot hatches with limited trim muscle cars?
They aren't comparable in anyway.
Ian White
How can people even like your mom? She's boring and slow in all situations. Just got done banging her at school. I can ride your "mom" at the very edge of the rim with 1 hand on her tit while talking with with your dad. So underwhelming.
Nathaniel Jenkins
I asked them what parts of your mom broke under heavy abuse and they said "nothing, she's stock and reliable" Kept shilling how your mom was the ultimate performance mom but as the day went on I found more and more shit replaced with aftermarket parts. The entire vag area was aftermarket Full bio pussy No cats, which was surprising for an old hag All fake titties Clutch Return springs removed. Yeah, she had a clutch installed.
Nathaniel Thomas
>Ultimate performance mom Kek
Easton Parker
sup
William Lopez
A-anyone?
Eli Hernandez
Everyone missed the cheeky jab at Porsche?
Jose Ramirez
You mean that's not a 911 in that pic?
Ryder Smith
It's fun to see all the people hate my flaps.
Dylan Campbell
>current Mazda3 makes 185HP with 2.5L engine >Mazda says SkyActiv-X will be up to 30% more powerful due to supercharging >next Mazda3 could have 240HP Sheeeeeeit
Luke Hall
By the look of that image it also looks like 3000+ pig fat.
Samuel Robinson
No hate here, friend.
Kevin Martin
This reminds me, I need to buy flaps before winter.
Jack Hughes
forget the mazda3, imagine a skyactiveX RF miata
Cameron Scott
They should just make a long wheelbase version of the Miata chassis, make it a hardtop liftback, give it a supercharged 2.5L, and call it an MX-7. I know a new rotary isn't going to happen, I just want a more practical and faster Mazda sports car.
Oliver Johnson
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Josiah Kelly
Are the flaps worth it? I want to get some but all the rally armor, etc brands are too HXC for my taste. Fiesta ST has some real shitty paint so I hoped they'd help preserve it a bit.