new Schirru >11 str, transform a card in your hand into Scorch
at least they give you a one turn warning this time
Charles Collins
Okay I think I found the strongest Saskia combo this time.
Brouver->Witchers->Saskia->Roach in turn 1 for a total of 29 strength and 5 deck thinning.
It takes up half of your silver slots though and is pretty unreliable because of the witchers.
Something like Brouver->Ocvist->Saskia->Roach is very reliable and strong though. Which is why I predict that every 2nd ST deck will run those.
Your meta predictions?
Robert Hughes
>Replace Ciri with Scorch
Liam Reed
Do we know if Brouver works the same? They have changed a lot of the leaders.
Christopher Lewis
He either gives you two Silvers choose from Or just plays a random Silver now, i forgot which one of these two is the correct one
Ian Wood
Yeah. He summons a silver unit of your choice from the deck. Special silvers are excluded now. So the combos would indeed work
Cameron Watson
he summons a dwarf from your deck
Michael Hill
From the polish stream we also know that there will be basic 4 strength ST units that get played immediately when mulliganed. Meaning you could combo them with Francesca (and Saskia+Roach)
The next meta will be all about tempo plays I feel. Which is sad because from what I gather the NR cards are too slow to keep up with that.
Juan Hall
Need to climb from 11 to 15 before the open beta hits. Is this how you build a consume deck these days?
Alexander Wood
>netdecking tournament decks user you need to stop
Nathaniel Hernandez
honestly thats pretty lazy from the devs >ng has 4 str cards that get summoned when revealed >st has 4 str cards that get summoned when mulliganed >sk on discard >let me guess, monsters will consume something from hand for 4 str >nr will something new and bam, 4 str card
each faction has its own mechanic and they just nailed tempo to it if its one thing i hate, its copy pasting cards from faction to faction
Alexander Perry
I didn't wholesale copy the deck. I looked at several for ideas. They're all largely the same anyway.
Or is playing any refined archetype netdecking to you?
Sebastian Taylor
ded already
Christian Reyes
Everyone busy climbing before the reset
Asher Butler
what will you guys be doing when the servers go down?
William Myers
Crying because I couldn't crack top 1k
Brody Parker
jerk off to ciri trap porn
Jackson Hughes
sauce me up
Jordan Peterson
trying to keep myself busy with shitposting so i dont kill myself
Connor Bennett
>Ciaran, 8 str, silver, lock/unlock a unit and move it to his row So Ciaran locks a unit and steals it, including enemy units?
Owen Price
no, if you play Ciaran on the Ranged row and lock a Melee row unit, it'll pull the Melee row unit to Ranged row
Kayden Miller
Masturbate into sleep combo or just sleep?
Isaiah Peterson
so do you guys think the game is getting better or worse with these changes?
Colton Clark
Worse but it isn't really coming as a surprise given CDPR's track record of listening and catering to the wrong people
Nathaniel Long
Better, however quite messy due to the many changes I guess.
Ryder Wright
just sleep
Ethan Carter
ded
Jackson Reyes
>CDPR's track record of listening and catering to the wrong people
the fuck are you talking about?
Nolan Diaz
meant for
Austin Carter
he probably means reddit and esporters
Kevin Clark
>tfw opponent forfeits in round 3 with 2 cards each to play because he thinks you have a Warcry, but you actually only have Yen
Jacob Stewart
witchers are good if you are running into scorch early
Speartip is good in the mirror otherwise gravehag can win you games and toad helps with consistency
don't think i have seen double cross often before
consider ciri over avalach
Owen Murphy
>playing lifecoach's self-wound SK deck, only Ocvist missing >rank 5, 1.6k >4 days left to grind 2.3k mmr will I make it bros?
Liam Roberts
no sk isnt good enough
Wyatt Myers
Should've choose control ST with some ambush cards. No one below 4k mmr knows how to play against ambush so you rarely lose.
Xavier Jenkins
should have gone with the elves son
Gabriel Howard
felt most comfortable with the SK starter when I started playing last week watched lifecoach play in the challenger tourney milled everything else the next day
no biggie though, I'd rather make it as far as I can go with a deck I like than cheese my way up with some FOTM shit
Carter Mitchell
Just take each match slow and you'll make it pretty far I made it to rank 13 with SK.
John Hall
I really have no conception of how people might play in the higher ranks. up until now I have something like a 80% winrate, and I'm not sure if I play well or if my deck is just way stronger than those of my opponents.
Landon Howard
I found this budget deck in one of these gwent sites on the OP, is it good enough for reaching level 10 and early ranks before the open beta? I still have some 800 something scraps after milling the other faction cards, so not enough for too much fancy stuff.
Adam Smith
where is ciri?
craft silver rez girl
consider playing frost
drop lacerate
Caleb Hughes
get Sigrdrifa first and then King of Beggars asap Wild Boar of the Sea and Holger Blackhand are great value cards too drop the berserker marauders, they're awful get another raging berserker into it drop the savage bear too, you dont need it with 3 brokvar archers, the only thing savage bear is good for is Drummond Shieldmaidens, and you dont have any of those
Jayden Wood
also, Gremist is great value too, forgot him in the first post
Sebastian Williams
I don't have her yet, I'm at a really low level and from what I read I can only get her at 18. You mean Sigrdrifa? Yeah, seems good. And I'm not sure I follow the point of frost.
Carter Adams
you get a free premium ciri when you join the closed beta
the one you get from leveling up is the normal one
>>And I'm not sure I follow the point of frost. your bears are immune to frost, so it lets you beat a stacked vran warrior or a mirror match where you cant win by using warcry on your warriors
Anthony Campbell
I already have Holger, so I can choose between Sigrdrifa, WIld Boar of the Sea and Gremist or just King of Beggars with the scrap I currently have. Also if I drop the 3 marauders, the bear and the lacerate I might need to put something else in there. Also wouldn't the deck get too heavy on the damage dealing or do I start targeting the enemy more with those?
Hunter Walker
how do i kill the hoog?
everyone and their mum is playing elves to climb the ladder
I want to climb THEM
Blake Bennett
I don't have it, did you need to do something else? I just got the premium geralt.
Adam Rodriguez
I don't know what he's on about. You're only guaranteed Ciri at 18 and the only free premium is Geralt.
Zachary King
Play as them. Ambush is literally uncounterable.
Aaron Gray
you dont get a premium ciri, you get a premium geralt
Elijah Perry
I've given up and I'm just fucking around to see what performs well in the Hoog mirror.
Daniel Ramirez
I'd say get KOB right now if you have 800 saved up, then get Sigrdrifa, shouldn't take very long to get 200 scraps for her. those two cards make your deck way more powerful, trust me. I've been in your position a few days ago. the chains they enbale are insane. you can i.e. play KOB round 2, he pulls out a priestess, the priestess rezzes a bear. in round 3, Sigrdrifa can rezz KOB, KOB pulls out another priestess, priestess rezzes the bear again, and Drifa gets +2 for the whole thing. with KOB in your starting hand, you basically want to mulligan every priestess you have becaues youre going to get them anyway.
Justin Watson
okay, so I ended up with this and 200 scraps left
would the best way to play this is try to go for geralt and jutta first turn and let it go hoping they give me the card advantage for turns 2 and 3? Or fight for it if I have ressurections on hand?
Justin Ramirez
welp, I went the other direction, so I guess I play until open beta and see if I get 600 scraps for it next
Austin Rivera
whats so good about Ambush? I haven't played anyone that used it.
Kevin Evans
The most common use for ambush is buff up a sapper and then play it as the second to last card in round 3. It can't get scorched or locked. The only way to weaken it is with weather. Other than that it's annoying to play against.
Jayden Evans
looks decent, should perform pretty well you could consider swapping the longships with tordarroch shieldsmiths, you can prevent Scorch killing more than 1 of your cards with them
Eli Edwards
huh, I dont even know what most ST cards do actually all I face are NR and Monster decks, am rank 5
Christopher Bailey
You probably won't see ambush much until rank 10.
Jacob Johnson
Here's a fun example.
They handbuff the fuck out of an ambush card with dragoon, and give you a copy with operator, and then use Morenn to kill your copy.
Because an ambush card can't be targeted while it's on the board, there's literally nothing you can do. That's just one fun fun example.
And the ST faction ability is the most obnoxious shit in the game. I wish that CDPR would retroactively revoke seasonal rewards for anyone who plays Hoog.
Gavin Smith
Where did the elves touch you, user?
William Allen
Yeah, that seems like a good idea, just had a game where scorch killed both of my bears in round 1. And it's not like the longships are doing much. Thanks.
Luke Fisher
Is there any archetype where using the max number of cards a good idea? Or is it always a bad idea that just dilutes your deck and makes draws worse?
Anthony Torres
It's pretty fucking awful right now. Maybe they'll make cards that encourage larger decks later.
Angel Russell
huh, i could have sworn you got them both
guess i got her in the first keg and never noticed
Nathaniel Foster
So I just faced one of those consume monster decks where the guy keeps eating nekkers and keeps stuff from one round to another. Any way I can deal with that bullshit or do I just consider it a loss against a tier one deck and move on?
David Parker
If you have 200 scrap then you can get Cyprian Wiley and stop the nekker bullshit.
Isaac Brooks
>Kill/lock the Arachna Behemoth/Vran/Nekker >Fog on ranged row >Milk them to use most of the Behemoths and pass the round >Lacarate/Epidemic >Cyprian Wiley on the Nekker
Also depends on what deck you are playing, there are plenty of counters but whine and bitch like a redditor is the easier solution.
Andrew Wood
plz tell me how to counter ST
i'm fucking begging you
Jayden Lee
atm your only option is to play ST
Tyler Miller
can i get a decklist that is designed to SPECIFICALLY FUCK HOOG IN THE FACE?
i'll DE everything to make it, the rage is real
Joshua Phillips
Discard SK is pretty strong against ST but you'll get fucked by monster and niffgard.
Joshua Roberts
monsters and who?
Dylan Cruz
Any Monsterfags here?
Do you consider Crones turn 1 and pass turn 2 a good strategy to bait some unnecessary cards from your opponent so you go with card advantage to round 2?
You have 20 strength in one turn and on top of that 6 or 8 strength are carrying on to the next round.
You can argue that Crones are 3 cards but the way I see it was just 1 card from my hand and it forces the opponent to 2 or 3 cards from his hand if he wants to win the first round.
I'm doing this mainly against skellige and nothern realms, scoia'tael sometimes. Of course when it's monster vs monster mirror match I fight more for the first round
Cameron Watson
It's good if you lose the round but have 2 card advantages. I had something like 80% WR against NR thanks crones r1 pass. It's not really reliable against the other factions.
Evan Butler
too risky in most cases
Evan Sanders
...
Robert Walker
Okay explain this to me.
Henselt shits all over Brouver decks. They often just don't stand a chance. Henselt can frequently outperform the consume machine. So even against Dagon shitters the winrate is positive. Henselt walks all over every other deck in this meta. Everyone agrees he's in the top 3 decks. Yet I barely see him played. Why?
Jayden Murphy
Letho has gotten pretty scrawny
Nolan Wood
>Henselt shits all over Brouver decks. They often just don't stand a chance. >Henselt can frequently outperform the consume machine. So even against Dagon shitters the winrate is positive.
lol nope. I have over 80% WR against Henselt climbing from rank 14 > 15 with both Monster and ST deck lel
Samuel Reyes
So your enemies have been bad players or the sample size is small.
Most people agree that ST is a favorable match up for NR players and I can only agree to that. I rarely lose against Brouver/Consume babies.
Evan Lopez
>3700+ mmr >bad players
sure thing shitter
Samuel Wright
>he thinks there aren't bad players at 3700 MMR >he calls others a shitter HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thanks for the laugh.
Lucas Ortiz
>30+ henselts players I've played against during my climb at 3700+ are all bad haha XD
sure thing shitter
Carter Peterson
>le I have 80% winrate brag >plays Monsters AND Scoiatael >unironically says lel and lol in 2017 >calls other anons a shitter
I don't know where you came from, whether it's twitch, /hsg/, r/gwent or another godless place, but you should probably just go back there
Landon Lee
You play meta decks and are still only at 3700 mmr. You are the textbook definition of a shitter my friend.
Ayden Fisher
>having meta deck automatically places you at max rank and 4000+ mmr
I still have to queue and click next through my wins you know
Blake Miller
>my anectdotal evidence is more important than the general consensus Look at this funny guy over here
Gabriel Nguyen
Not having rank 15 and 4500 MMR doesn't make you a shitter. Sitting at rank 14 and calling others a shitter does, however, make you prime shitter material. Especially if you post in a thread where almost everyone is rank 15 already
Jason Flores
>one guy made a dumb statement about Henselt being """"""""good"""""" >hes not even common in the game at higher mmr despite supposedly being """""""good""""" against the numerous consume and ST decks according to 4chin community consensus
The irony.
Jayden Smith
>everyone and their mother is packing D-Bombs and Manticore Venom now because of Henselt being too threathening if left unchecked >Lifecoach repeatedly said that he build every single challenger deck to counter Henselt because he thinks Henselt is super strong. >He himself brough Henselt and never lost with it >countless of plebbit posts about "How can I deal with Henselt" >but he is not good >at least according to a rank 14 kid who doesn't know how the top of the ladder looks THAT is irony.
Christian Brown
>a fact is a dumb statement Now this is shitposting
Thomas King
Okay can we PLEASE stop responding to this autist and just discuss something else?
Jeremiah White
>Henselt shits all over Brouver decks. They often just don't stand a chance. >Henselt can frequently outperform the consume machine. So even against Dagon shitters the winrate is positive. >Is actually not that common at the top of the ladder full of ST and consume >facts
I wonder what could be the reason other than he can't compete for shit against the other two archetype.