>the game that took all the good things Miyazaki learned from making the first two games, plus a generous budget and development cycle from Sony, is better than one of those first two games where all of the experimentation took place, while being hobbled by a development schedule that literally forced them to ship the game with the second half incomplete Is this bait?
Levi Perry
So I beat Bloodborne a few times, loved it, great game, been playing DS1, I'm currently in Anor Londo and so far the game has been not fun at all, all enemy/character designs are laughably retarded, gameplay is objectively shit, and I don't give a single fuck about the world or seeing what retarded looking demon lies beyond the next door. Even meme characters like Solaire and Retarded Onion aren't nearly as good as anything in Bloodborne. Should I just quit the game? I'd beat it just for the cred, but honestly the game is piss easy once you have a good build going, it's hilarious how broken shields are.
Aaron Adams
Short answer: It introduced PS1/2 era ARPG mechanics to a western PC audience that had never played those games before.
Long answer:
Sony /Atlus invested a bunch of creativity into Demon's Souls, and then Bandai came in and stole half of it (including the game engine) and gave miyazaki unbridled, absolute control over the game, for better or worse. DS1 was a hodge-podge of good, proven ideas from previous games put together.
Miyazaki's work on Armored Core also turned From into a direct competitor with Bandai Namco games, since he shifted the Armored Core series to be similar to the Gundam games that Bandai was releasing in Japan, and the two competed close enough that Bandai was able to essentially kill (through dramatically changed gameplay, 2-3 year delays and a lack of patch support) the armored core franchise thereafter.
Because DS1 development was basically subsidized by all the DeS assets and ideas already made (along with a game design that miyazaki had been toying with ever since he joined the company, but had never had the opportunity to really explore) Bandai was able to put a lot of money into marketing.
It wasn't incredibly successful until the PC port though, and Bandai's "prepare to die" campaign. That's when western audiences got ahold of it and it reached a critical mass that let it out-sell DeS. That's because a lot of the people who bought DS1 had never played classic JRPGs/ARPGs of that kind, including DeS, so it was seen as hugely innovative.
It also happened to come at a particularly low point in game design when small studios behind niche games (like Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, etc.) were being bought up by big name publishers and having their franchises beaten to death with yearly sequels. This might have been Bandai's original idea (marketing for DS1 was "A Bandai Namco Game" with From Software getting second billing as a developer.
It was a perfect storm of massive publisher marketing and an untapped market.
Daniel Sanders
# Still here? Want me to hand it over, that thing
Jacob Martin
Souls games are boring and completely lack ambition or creativity compared to previous From Soft games, and it was only because of high budgets that they are at all fun to play. DS2 is the best souls game because it's the most ambitious, even if it fails at those ambitious more often than the more boring DS1/DS3.
Prove me wrong.
Easton Ortiz
yeah i've done that once or twice, then they just take the ring off and show me they're red.
then we go on and kill the host together
James Nelson
>they actually chose to not play as dragonsis Why though?
Aaron Walker
Does a 40/40 DEX/INT build that buffs sharp weapons and spams Farron Dart sound reasonably decent?
Levi Brooks
i don't know a good dragonsis build
Landon Flores
No armour or poise unless you wear wolf ring
Nolan Sanders
2011 From Software is a completely different company (literally, they were bought out in 2014) from 2015 From Software.
Think of it this way:
DS1 is basically PS2 game from 10 years ago made by an indie developer. It just happens to -look- like a PS3-era title. That indie developer eventually went on and made BB.
Wyatt Turner
dude you might be the first person ever to make a dex buffer build
patent that shit
Elijah Murphy
You're just a shitter. Leave.
Camden Bailey
How much Luck for Anri's Straight Sword?
Grayson Taylor
Fuck off. You've spent the last 2 threads baiting retards. Go to bed or something.
Carter Fisher
99
Michael Gutierrez
Holy shit is that Pat from SBFP?
Hunter Hill
I'll give anyone here 20 titanite scales if they help with the champion gravetender on pc. I'm a pure pyro casting build, and he ducks under cunting everything, not to mention that cunt wolf. Put sign by bonfire PW: Banjo
Nathan Robinson
holy shit is this an e-celeb shill?
Xavier Murphy
How can straight swords even compete?
Charles Evans
How did they become a completely different company?
Lincoln Sullivan
Softcaps at 40, gains like an extra 1 point for every level after that.
Charles Cruz
>not allowed to discuss my hobby on the hobby website on the hobby board in my hobby general
Adrian Gutierrez
sign down at depths bonfire
Alexander Perez
>Prove me wrong Sorry man not worth it. But hey more power to you believe what you want.
Jason Martinez
at least 40 unless you have a hollow offhand adding 5 luck
that being said if you're just trying to get more AR, even past 40 luck it still scales more with luck than anything.
Jacob Cruz
Not seeing it. Did you pw?
Parker Anderson
pass is Banjo
Jacob Cook
Guys, help, I really don't wanna kill Sif. wat do
Hudson Green
all day every day.
Nolan Evans
*blocks your path*
Jason Phillips
anybody wants to help me against friede on pc? pass is dsg
Landon Harris
>it's the only path >the path is a dead end BRAVISSIMO
Samuel Green
>Trying to beat Friede and Ariandel at level 20 with +2 upgrades I have made a bad decision
Anthony Fisher
The DS3 dragon models are actually not that great, to be honest. In my opinion.
Trust me I wouldn't mind dragoning this up.
Jack Ward
I'm pretty sure you can't see upgrade materials dropped by other players.
Thomas Anderson
Why is the city called The Ringed City?
Is it because of the Dreg Heap? Or is it because of the Darksign in the sky?
Jaxon Baker
So it's an unfinished game made by a bunch of retards. Great, at least I bought a used copy.
>faggots think this game is hard
Bloodborne is over twice as hard, this shit is piss easy. Shields with 100% physical damage reduction? Burden load and stamina determined by the same stat? You faggots are pathetic, to think that people actually consider this game hard.
Christian Richardson
>shit animations >shit movesets >shit level design outside of a handful of areas more like worst souls game, followed by demon's
Kevin Brown
What's the best way to grind Phalanx in painted world with 25 INT/40 DEX? Am I going to have to upgrade a God Damn Pyro Flame again?
Kayden Anderson
It's okay, user. I beat the game at SL20 with the unupgraded Deep-infused Battle Axe you get from the Mimic at the beginning of the game.
Joshua Roberts
I posted this in the last thread as an unpopular opinion and now some fuckhead user is using it as bait.
Kadokawa bought them out, Miyazaki was made president, and most of the original (especially ACV/ACVD/DS2) developers were fired or promoted to management.
BB and DeS were produced with Studio Japan handling a lot of the software and in both cases Sony contributed a new game engine (DeS engine is what is used in DS1 and DS2, BB's engine is used in DS3) and experts on making it work. After the kadokawa buy out, they started hiring many more employees for DS3 to replace the missing roles from not having Studio Japan involved.
I'd say that only 10-20% of the actual people behind DS1 are still working for the company today, and they are entirely in management or creative design, not coding or game design.
Benjamin Foster
it.. uhh it's a ring
Colton Sullivan
bows are you friend my friend
Eli Bell
Thanks. I'll summon you again now with the scales
Asher Nelson
...
Christopher Hill
Sure, I'll come in a minute. Please don't tell me you're some SL30 guy trying to rush the DLCs to get the TRC content.
Charles Cox
Isn't there a furry convention you have to attend?
Jack Moore
What do you even get out of that that's useful for twinking? You might as well just rush through the main game if you want access to DLC.
Kevin Foster
>implying i'm not helping for fun instead of useless materials
no thanks man
sign down
Isaac Walker
Except for the "prove me wrong" part. I never posted that.
>retards >MOM SOMEONE MADE A GAME I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THEY MUST BE RETARDS
It's okay to dislike DS1, calling the developers retards isn't going to make people care about your opinion though
Christian Cox
Makes the early game so much easier, yet so easily missable.
Luis Johnson
im 60
Hudson Thomas
>Murdering invaders at farron keep.
How are things at the arena? I assume there will be a good amount of people following the meta and wielding huge weapons.
Justin Bailey
that was so fucking gay and shit man at least make the banner a drop from demon prince, that was such a let down picking up a banner and using it 3 seconds later what the fuck, now that I think about it every quest item you get in DaS3 gets used immediately after >lothric banner >basin of vows >irithyll escape key Like thats so shit and bad game desgin
Jace Baker
What's the best straight sword for sharp infusion?
Lothrics I'm guessing?
Ryan Cooper
why did they take out lefthanded dagger parries when even DS1 had those?
why are scythes fucking gay now?
I miss this build a lot though half the time I just used chaos blade and magic WRS anyway
Adrian Hill
why is refined so shit even on fucking canon equipment that supposedly used refined so annoying
Owen Howard
>What do you even get out of that The satisfaction of a job well done? >that's useful for twinking? NOTHING
DS1 is shit, you fags only like it for nostalgia, it's basically a medieval tomb raider game.
Jace Cruz
nothing bigger than a halberd is really meta in 1v1
Andrew Fisher
We get it
You're probably 14-15 (or a 21 high school dropout living off your parents) and you played BB, kinda liked it, and then heard about other people getting "cred" for playing the "prepare to die" hard dark souls game.
So you went and bought it like an idiot, because you want to look badass.
But it's actually a slow paced, creative role playing game and now you're all butthurt because you fell for the marketing gimmicks and just made a complete fool of yourself by buying a game that you didn't want to play anyway.
Now the only way to feel like a man again is to shit-talk the game anonymously and get other people to be triggered over it.
So get your bullshit out of your system, and then move on. No one cares if you beat DS1 or not.
Jayden Miller
All right, sign is down.
Ethan Lopez
Yeah, I'd honestly rather just not get an item at all if it's going to be used instantly anyway, though I guess it can be used for a description? At least they didn't make Wolnir drop this or anything.
Brody Davis
I believe it has two meanings, obviously it is a reference to how it looks but I think that was designed after the symbolic meaning which is that it is a city for the "ringed" people, the humans who were branded with the darksign.
Jonathan Cox
DS1 is actually ocarina of time with influences from everquest and armored core. The creators literally have said this before in interviews.
because you get to use every single weapon type with 40/40 as opposed to a smaller variety with same points in all dex or all strength. it's called specialization, kidd-
>even on fucking canon equipment that supposedly used refined
idk lmao
Jeremiah Lee
>Huge weapons aren't the meta. Straight sword estoc turtles are.
Good.
Samuel Torres
>125 that's a BIG sis desu
Cameron Baker
Is this some kind of self fulfilling prophecy, where you got put down as a complainer in the last thread and now you have to become one.
John Foster
>What do you even get out of that that's useful for twinking? Favor +3 obviously
Anthony Bell
They should have not included refined at all and just made the scaling for uninfused a bit better.
Anthony Howard
DS3 was designed Bosses-first. The areas connecting the bosses (and sometimes even how you get to the boss encounter) was secondary, and the key items are basically just added in afterwards to get a player from point A to B as a complete after thought.
Nathan White
>NOTHING >not destroying scrubs with a scythe
Sebastian Mitchell
I have 2 questions
Is it worth going from 16 Str to 18 if I just want access to the Arbalest? I'm using an Avelyn now and don't mind the extra bolt consumption.
And if I started as a Warrior, would it be worth it to bring faith up to being able to use Replenishment and any chime's WA along with 10 Att for a spell slot?
Leo Roberts
dam you sticc
Noah Fisher
It used to be OP and then they nerfed it. It's fair now, since unlike Str you don't need to 2H it to get max damage and unlike dex you actually can use most of the weapons in the game.
Benjamin Evans
Is the Lothric Knight Sword supposed to be the best weapon in the game to make sharp?
Daniel Collins
Thank god for the arena. Contains most of the meta pvp shitters and finally opened my eyes as to how garbage dueling truly is. Only thing I played the game for these days anyway so I uninstalled and I am finally free! A fine Dark Soul to all you lads.
Kayden Powell
Just two-hand the Arbalest.
Healing is shit unless you have at least 40 Faith. Don't bother, Warrior's strength is low base Att which makes melee builds easier to minmax.
Nicholas King
Will From ever make anything as good as Dark Souls ever again?
Angel Russell
Yes.
Landon Murphy
Wasn't in the last thread, plenty of you fags complain how shit ds3 is, I'm complaining how shit ds1 is
William Morris
>You might as well just rush through the main game if you want access to DLC
Cooper Baker
You'll be back.
Josiah Kelly
Will From ever make anything as good as Armored Core 3 again?
Will From ever make anything as good as Shadow Tower Abyss again?
Will From ever make anything as good as Metal Wolf Chaos again?
Will From ever make anything as good as KF3 (2) again?
Landon Smith
It's not though
James Baker
What don't you like about Dark Souls 3?
Ethan Peterson
you
Joseph Wood
>Will From ever make anything as good as Armored Core 3 again? literally WHAT >Will From ever make anything as good as Shadow Tower Abyss again? literally WHAT >Will From ever make anything as good as Metal Wolf Chaos again? literally WHAT >Will From ever make anything as good as KF3 (2) again? literally WHAT
Caleb Hill
>Can't be infused or buffed >12/16/12/11 requirements >Twinking
David Cox
In Dark Souls 3, can you get to Lothric as your first lord of cinder by killing the lady and fighting Dancer, or do you get blocked by something across the way through Lothric Castle and the Archives?
Eli Mitchell
>name the 4 best non-souls from software games
Christopher White
Lack of poise in PvE(It's garbage in PvP but I miss being a tank), and estus animation is way too quick.
Ayden Cox
Dark Souls PC: Remastered.
Cooper White
The key to the Archives doesn't appear unless you kill Yhorm and the goo.