Why aren't American cars popular outside the US?

TheY are like 40-45k i think
For that price you can buy a mustang with over 400 horses or a barebones mercedes 1.8l with 100 ps

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Because we like quality cars here

Emission taxes.

Because you can't fucking by one, without spending a premium to get it imported, then compliant with your country's motoring laws. That being said, I've seen heaps of Mustangs since they started selling them domestically.

actual main cause? no distribution network

the moment they started selling Mustangs through official European Ford dealerships, they became quite a common sight

I live in Britain and I've only ever seen one Corvette in my entire life, it was a red C5. It's super rare to see even a Mustang, and I've only ever seen one Camaro too.

Fuel consumption, petrol is more expensive over here.

Overpriced over here. They have to be imported, so they are fairly uncommon, so naturally they come with a high price.

Over here in the UK people seem to be asking for 20k for the older gen V8s, but the americans can pick these up for nothing.

You have never seen a Chrysler?

Americana cars are fairly popular in Ausland and China.

Any answer that isn't some form of these posts is wrong.

>all those morons here not realizing that American cars don't consist only of V8 mustangs camaros and corvettes

That was the dream. Everything with V8s. The dream still lives in another timeline. The timeline of maximum Glory. No OPEC oil embargo, no smog equipment, not catalytic converter, no Ralph Nader, no Jimmy Peanut Dick Carter. They know, or imagine what we used to know about ourselves, if its not V8 and RWD its not American.

fuel consumption, import taxes, size, autotragics, more expensive parts since import only, less repair shops actually being able to fix your shit

Shit like the 300C yeah, and I think I've seen a Crossfire once or twice.

No PT's or Voyagers?

pic related

They are pretty popular outside the US. Canada has a similar market and all of south america have plenty of american models. 40% of the chinese market is american cars. When I was in Dubai I was also impress that anything that was not a supercar was a chevrolet and in Israel they have lots of american cars too.

The only place they are rare is in western europe.

Cos 3 reasons:
Europe and asia tax the americans to promote their own shit, they are biased as fuck.

No parking spaces, so they prefer smaller cars.

europe and asia ppl prefer small-tiny cara with 800-1600 cc engines. They dont have much of a car culture.
Im from israel bte, no dog in the fight. I just like cars

no european car has a 800cc engine though

I just walked past a Trans-Am. In the last year, the only muscle cars I've seen over here are that one, owned by a guy a know and a new Camaro owned by a guy on the next street over. They're rare as hell. For full sized pickups, I see a few F150s occasionally. Dad owned an imported Harley edition once, it was great but ran afoul of height and width restrictions constantly.

Also, they don't sell them over here and they're not RHD. t. UK. It's why we're massive weebs over here, Jap imports are RHD too.

You can definitely get 1000cc, pic related. 59 to a turbocharged 116 HP.

Ok I get your point.

But when you think 'American Car', you don't think PT Cruiser, you think Corvette.

You have never seen a Cherokee, Wrangler, Durango or RAM?
It seems like there's like three ''American cars'' by the average Veeky Forums posters logic.
I should seriously block this site. I keep coming back here to waste my time after I forget how much it sucks. This place is degrading as shit.

I would rather drive the shitboxes of Europe than the ones we get in America. At least in Eurocuckland they can call a shitbox a shitbox honestly.

GM sells plenty of econoboxes all over the world, and Fords are really popular in the UK

>brash styling perceived as tasteless by many
>corners cut on materials and assembly make them look crude and cheap, and impact satisfaction and even reliability
>deficiencies in engineering precision substituted by size
>size demands higher fuel consumption and therefore higher running costs and is impractical in daily driving
>most models would have to be grey imported and have no support network
>price isn't a selling point anymore after shipping costs and import taxes
Why WOULD they be popular?

And most Ford and GM models sold in Europe were actually designed in Europe. In fact there are more European designed Ford and GM models for sale in the US than there are American designed Ford and GM models for sale in Europe.

Europoors couldn't be afford the gas money for one, not even the rich europoors

And there are more American designed Hondas in America than there are Japanese designed ones

It's almost as if automakers are multinational corporations that design products for a certain market in mind

All I was saying is that European Fords are generally good enough for the US, even replacing American models in some cases like the Transit or the Focus (the American exclusive second gen Focus turned out to be a complete basketcase), while American Fords generally aren't good enough for Europe with a few exceptions like the Edge which isn't selling well at all and the Mustang which sells on novelty. And then there's those cases of Honda selling global Accords as upscale Acuras in the US while the American Accord is a complete econoshitbox.

The American Accord is actually nice though. The TLX was smaller, they just through in some leather, upped the compression and called it a "luxury" car

All Fords are global now

Corvettes are condidered exotics in Europe.

They're big!
(foreign roads are narrow.)
They have big engines!
(foreign lands either tax by displacement, have high gas tax, or both)
They're exotic!
(It's not as unreliable as Italian cars, but they aren't as stylish, either.)
(Also, since they are made in States and not in the domestic country, parts are harder to come by, like an inversion of German cars here.)
They're cheap!
(Not overseas, they are not.)

well yeah, but why doesn't the rest of the world like them?

They are popular outside the US.

That's not true. The rest of the world likes Toyotas, too.

ironically Toyotas are more American than most """American""" brands these days

dumb arse

Because they're expensive and not very good.

Because they're rubbish

True, the only good Ford cars are European, liek the Fiesta, Focus and GT(40)

When it comes to muscle cars etc the reason besides the rarity is how much more taxes you have to pay because of the high displacement combined with the fuel consumption.

Do PT Cruisers count?

Here in Germany there are loads of the current Mustang and Camaro (more Mustangs though). Corvettes can be spotted every now and then on the Autobahn. Everything else from the US that was not officially sold in Germany is extremely rare. I've seen more Skylines and Stageas than muscle cars from before 2000 although the latter are handled more as driver's cars here while american cars seem to be more of a collector's thing.

>You have never seen a Cherokee, Wrangler, Durango or RAM?
Literally no.

And they say we have protectionist tariffs...

we don't actually. the US is a bastion of free trade compared to most other places.

That's what I'm saying. That's ridiculous.

What is it, cronyism between government and customs and manufacturers?

Yurocucks can't compete and are too poor to afford American cars. In these ways they keep the yuropeasants buying small 2 cylinder cuck mobiles. Only Americans have the freedom to play with V8 monsters.

Those are so fucking ugly. I can't stand the look of those vans.

Pic related is top tier look

The entire euro A segment uses anything from .6L to 1.6 in very special cases like the up! GTI. Most A segment tin cans top out at .9L

but I have an american truck and will buy an american car next

My grandpa had a van just like that, it smelled like orange spray and cigs.

Customs are just an executive function, like the Police. For the rest, yes, there's a lot of that.

lol fuck off top gear watcher

>anything from .6L
show me one ( 1 ) modern european car with a 600cc engine lmao

I can't remember seeing a petrol station in Monaco.

>from the country that bans grey imports less than 25 years old and gives preferential treatment to Detroit truckbarges and SUV shitbuckets in every single regard
>hurr muh yuropeen cronyism

Ironically the 25 year rule is a protection for euro companies because nobody here wanted to buy the trash they made for the american market

>5km per a liter
what did he mean by this

Pretty much this. Nobody else is gullible or cloistered enough.

No they aren't. The US still gets gimped models, but they all have the same name.

Pretty sure you don't get fully independent suspension on US-spec Focuses.

because outside of the american continent they are too expensive and low quality compared to the alternatives elsewhere in the world

American cars are made for America. Most are completely unusable on our roads especially once you start to factor in taxes and fuel costs.

There is a reason Ford Europe does all the design for non-American cars.

The Mustang is still very uncommon and they're now being sold with a Ford ecoboost engine for Europoors lol

Yes you do. They're all the same now

that's silly, because coming from a relatively poor armpit of Europe (Poland), I see mostly 5.0 GT Mustangs bought as company cars, because they're so cheap, especially when you can deduct income tax and VAT

almost nobody buys 2.3 versions, because there's no point

surely youre joking

Taxes

My dad went through like 5 or 6 of them, even the old chryslers and dodge caravans. Trannies never made it more than a few thousand klicks over 100k

Because they are shit
No one wants to go to the effort to import something that is shit
So it's obvious that Americans only buy them because it's why they easily have access to. Like the ugly beta who can only sex fat chicks

Only refugees are allowed to drive V8s in the caliphate of Europe.

All white men must drive these:

youtube.com/watch?v=4lKq1fGtXFM

So he bought a new van instead of another tranny?

They are. If someone has and American muscle/sports car in a euorpean country, more than likely theyre rich and it attracts attention.

You Europeans love american cars no matter how much they say otherwise. You surround them whenever you spot someone driving them because theyre so damned rare and put a good portion of your average cars to shame.

If in europe you put a Dodge Challenger Hellcat and Audi R8 next to each other in a parking lot, more people are gonna flock to the Challenger because they're so damned uncommon that most people don't even know what it is. Same rule applies to classic cars just about everywhere else.

Gotta get fuel for their supercars somehow.

Europeans don't give two shits about American cars
Yoire delusional if you think otherwise.

cuz they sux

The last time i checked in Argentina, the 2017 Mustang GT (with a localized package, a bit different/nicer than the base GT) was almost 120k out of the door (yes, U.S. dollars).
Also, premium gas price was more than 5/gal (again, U.S. dollars).

Displacement tax
Displacement tax
Displacement tax
No dealer network
No parts support
Displacement tax

Figured I'd ask here cause its about murican cars and op img is a c5 vette.

I like cars and really want to be able to have fun at the track (road course is 30 mins away and a 1/4 mile drag strip about 45 mins away). And I also just want to be able to have fun driving the car around on fair weather days.
I'm a learning hobbyist mechanic I don't know much yet but I've been building tools and knowledge up with my 1994 Mustang GT. It just is too old/rough to really put the time/effort into I want.

Even in stock form the C5 seems to have what I want in power/handling. But I would still want to try doing a few things myself like bolt ons and suspension.

Anyway I'm looking at pic related.
I test drove it about an hour ago and it runs and drives great.
It has 144k miles. He has paperwork for a RPM level IV rebuild for the T56 dated from last winter which he said was at 140k. It's their lowest and cheapest rebuild at $2600.

The only mods are
Tick Master Cylinder
Tick Slave speed bleeder
Muffler Delete
LS7 Clutch (Done with rebuilt trans)
Mail order tune on it. said it picked up some power but his main reasoning was getting rid of the skip shift function.

He has records for a new water pump, manifold gaskets, plugs/wires. Also it had a lifter issue and had heads pulled and new LS7 lifters. WIth that was new headgaskets and heads were cleaned and surfaced at a machine shop with new seals and whatnot.

All done in summer 2016

He has just used it for a fun daily driver for last 2 years and road coursed it twice.

Seems super well maintained. He's firm at $8000. I was looking to spend around 10-12k since I find them with like 60-70k miles but this one is a lot cheaper and has the fresh trans and it really did shift absolutely beautiful so it's attracting me.

Thoughts?

also it's a 1999

Ironically Mercedes suggested it but Detroit benefitted even more from it and also had someone they could blame it on. It was a win-win for Detroit and therefore for Washington.

>If someone has and American muscle/sports car in a euorpean country, more than likely theyre rich and it attracts attention.
More likely they're average wealthy but much more tasteless than others. It takes a special kind of tastelessness and hunger for attention to want to be seen in gaudy American shitbuckets outside of America.

German fag here and I can say american cars are highly desired not cause of reliability or anything (im not saying they are) but just because its hard to find them. Taxes and importing fees and such made them very costly new and they hold value here.

A v6 camaro firebird or mustang in good shape that sells for $2000-3000 in america from what I saw when I was a college transfer student at Iowa Sate in the US for a semester are the same cars that will go here for 7000-10000. A v8 model will bring 20-40k here depending on condition and km/miles. I'm talking US dollars roughly converted in my head.

A c5 corvette that is spoken of being so cheap like will bring equivalent here of maybe $40,000-50,000 US dollars. There actually more of them than the Trans am or camaro so a v8 fbody will bring as much value as the corvettes.

Mustangs are a bit cheaper there are more v6s around. V8s are pricey though.

Also same goes for old american trucks. Like 70-2000 GM trucks are verrry valueable here too.

not luxurious enough
not a status symbol
doesn't create lust
doesn't show class or taste
doesn't turn heads
lastly, in some habeeb countries you need to one up your friends. If mohackmed has a 200ft boat, you need a 300 ft boat. If Abdul has a Bugatti, you need a gold plated Bugatti with a $15 million license plate

To be fair Lamborghinis are the gaudiest babbys first supercar you can find anywhere.

They look childish. If 8 year old boys were wealthy enough to buy cars they'd be very popular.

I've had my fair share of looking at American cars and honestly they sell for exactly as much as in the US plus shipping and taxes. You're hardly going to make any profit whatsoever on importing American cars, the price difference merely covers expenses.

What about these?