Including all the functions of government and regulations?
>unaccounted for technocrats will rule the country What's exactly wrong with that? As long as there is peace and economic stability that's all what matters. A democratic system which changes economic policy every 4 years is just stupid and short sighted.
>there will be more monopolies The strong trumps the weak. Clearly the monopoly provides a better service than its competitors if it is able reach monopoly status.
>there will be more poor people I'm sure there would be plenty of opportunities for poor people to get out of poverty rather than relying on welfare. Indentured servitude is one example.
>b-but indentured servitude is bad...! It would of course be regulated by independent regulators. It serves against the employers interests to create harsh working conditions for their employees. Furthermore I'm sure that Big Pharma would lobby employers to ensure health and safety standards are enforced. A healthy employee is not just a happy and productive worker, but also a cash cow for Big Pharma after all.
So you see Veeky Forums, everything balances out just fine in a privatized free market economy with 0 government interference.
Because 99% of the populace would be forced to provide basic services they couldn't afford to use.
Then they get all angry and kill the 1% that can afford to live comfortably. Then they set up a government and give themselves the services they otherwise can't afford. Then retards like you pop up and pretend people can afford those services without the government. And the pendulum swings.
Aaron Myers
>People can't afford to buy things without government redistribution of wealth
You're a fucking idiot. Typically when the poors rise up it's to decapitate the corrupt government because bad government policies have reduced them to eating rats.
Christopher Myers
because small tyrannical groups would form mafias until they reach status of government all over again.
Retard.
Grayson Fisher
How many miles of road can you personally afford to produce? how many firefighters can you afford? Policemen? Judges? How much sewer pipe can you personally afford to lay? How deep a well can you afford? What happens to you when your richer neighbor digs one deeper? How large is your personal army, and how are they armed? What kind of Navy and Air Force can you personally field?
you have to join with others to get these things done. And when you do, a government is formed.
Jose Morales
sounds good senpai
Gavin Flores
>muh roads >muh volunteer services >muh militia
How did people even survive without big government stealing a third of their shit?
Owen Phillips
>How did people even survive without big government stealing a third of their shit? outhouses, oil lamps, dirt floors, horses, farming, having 23 kids and 21 of them die, log cabins, death by flu, never traveling more than 10 miles from their home, never seeing money, malnutrition, gross ignorance, worked to death by 35, constantly being robbed and murdered.
it was glorious.
Lincoln Jenkins
Wrong.
You having fallen for the classic fallacy of absolutes. Reality is not black or white.
Mafias, like any business, are a profit seeking entity. They profit out of goods and services made illegal by the government but is otherwise desired by some parts of the public. Remove the ban, and mafias would suddenly find themselves out of business or be forced to operate as ordinary businesses.
Austin White
All of the above are perfectly achievable by private enterprises.
>you have to join with others to get these things done. And when you do, a government is formed.
There is nothing stopping private enterprises from working with each other if it is in their best interests to do so.
If something needs done, the free market will always find a way to get it done in the most efficient way possible.
>but who will pay the firefighters and police?
Funds and trusts set up by private corporations will.
Nice strawman, but what you are clearly describing are the results of actions by incompetent governments setting up incompetent and short sighted regulations and laws to prevent people receiving basic services.
There will always be a demand for law and order to be enforced. It is naive to think that only the government can provide it.
Benjamin Watson
> I'm sure that Big Pharma would lobby employers to ensure health and safety standards are enforced.
Are you stupid or something?
Jason Davis
I was unaware my taxes were used to cover my mortgage, car payment, utilities, and health care. I could have sworn I make payments to corporations for those things.
Christopher Wood
You have an extremely poor understand of mafias. Organized crime involves far more than selling illegal goods, it's thievery, forcing locals to pay up, beating and killing the competition, etc.
There zero mechanism is an anarcho-capitalist society to defend from mafias. The only thing that defeats a mafia is a more powerful one.
Jeremiah King
non-state power brokers will also take care of people so that people are loyal. This idea that organized gangs operate solely on coercion is pretty laughable.
Landon Baker
It doesn't matter. The state also provides services ("take care of people"). Anarcho-capitalism is so laughably naive
Ayden Sanchez
My point is that the way governments operate is the same way that gangs operate just on a larger scale.
You don't really need either though. Any services they provide can be provided by voluntary community organizations.
Ian Brooks
alright genius, outline the steps to make this dream a reality
Robert Carter
It doesn't matter if you think you don't "need" them. They will exist and there's nothing you can do to stop it. The problem then becomes what kind of state is best (for me, swiss democracy), not whether there should be a state, a non-enforceable scenario.
Jeremiah Perry
If the government disappeared tomorrow how would that actually affect you?
Jayden Bennett
Because powerful people will be able to commit horrible atrocities and get away with it as long they remain useful/profitable to the establishment.
I prefer a world where a magnate can be jailed for a single crime and how much his business creates "good" for the world doesn't matter.
Joseph Peterson
Just take it in terms of an argument against further government expansion. Currently there are services that the government doesn't provide but the private sector does provide. Instead of trying to expand government into those services we should probably just leave them alone.
Caleb Hall
man randroids really are still just the worst
Justin Clark
in the context of an ageing population rife with underemployment, an absence of federal and state fiscal policy would lead to riots eventually
without a strong central navigator to subtly direct neoliberal gains the country would be eaten alive by hungry oligopolies and multinationals
immigration would quickly become uncontrollable beyond its current untenable number
energy cartels that dominate the country would ream the common man for all he's worth, the FIRE sector would swiftly move in a deregulated environment to control the public coffers, but I suspect that without public funding and policy direction the triggers that have been laid for recession in my country would fire, leading to a total and absolute shitfest, in economic terms
I'd be broke as a joke with no safety net and would probably see an emergency government formed within the month
ITT: user slowly has it explained to him that a private corporation that acquires a monopoly on the use of force IS a government.
Jordan Butler
I don't see enought helicopters in your plan to be beilable
Cameron Watson
OP, you are a retarded dickface and more retarded than someone who watches alex jones show.
Jayden Butler
Are guys 14 years old, redneck yahoos, or just fucking stupid?
Nicholas Bailey
People who are all "muh free markets" are just as bad as the man children who want the government to do everything for them. Although the market approach is a better foundation then a big bloated government, it's not some all correcting magical force. At the end of it all its not the setup or the rules but people who try to get over and break the rules.
Aaron Long
> prisons were privatized
look how that went.
Some things do need to run by an election of votes, not the direction of money.
David Green
>it's thievery, forcing locals to pay up, beating and killing the competition, etc.
Sounds a lot like goverment desu
Brody Lee
A monarchy is a privatized government.
Asher Mitchell
>Clearly the monopoly provides a better service No, it doesn't. MAYBE it did before it became a monopoly, but monopolies are an economic inefficiency.
Brody Bell
this
not in practice >ITS OK WHEN THE PEOPLE I LIKE STEAL THE MONEY
Blake Mitchell
It's good and bad, mixed pill. Technically they would want to rule in their own self interest since the family would benefit from it. But of course, some would undergo rent-seeking behavior to maximize profits in the short term for themselves.
Dominic Price
>private companies being in charge is somehow not government
Blake Long
Without getting to far into politics Using efficiency for wealth max as the presupposition. (rent seeking being the ultimate form of inefficiency and parasitism of wealth)
The monarchy will always be more efficient than the democracy. The general rule of thumb is private is always more efficient than public. This is shown to empirically be the case with regards to rent seekers.
Josiah Gutierrez
The gov is a firm but a firm is not a gov. for a firm to be a gov, it needs a monopoly on land and violence.
Angel Foster
>it needs a monopoly on land and violence. except the government doesnt own all the land. and they cant initiate violence without a good reason over their ow citizens ether
Josiah Young
You know the government can effectively seize any land at any time under imminent domain right?
You know that there is only the illusion of reason involved when violence is initiated right?
Don't kid yourself.
Ian Bailey
except if they do they without good reason they get sued to death
Jose Carter
Because feudalism was a terrible form of government.
