Why can't FWD be fun to drive? my current car (03 VR6 GTI) is undoubtedly more comfortable to drive than any car I have had before and it is quick despite popular opinion. But the steering has a shit feel with even shittier feedback & torque steer. Corners always feel like I'm driving a snowplow. Shifting always feels chunky, especially controlling speed through the downshift
The RWD cars I have had have never been fast, mostly turbo bricks and pickup trucks, but they have always been 100% more fun in the corners and on dirt roads.
Because you can't drift or kick the back end out. Yeah FWD's can be quick and nimble but going around corners without drifting them will get boring quick. inb4 some asian dude "drifting" a Civic or some kids lunch tray drifting. Having the end snap around whenever it wants isn't the same as controlling the rear wheels with power.
Lucas Wilson
RWD is usually more fun desu
but fwd can be fun
left foot braking and cornering at insanely high speeds absolutely amazing
>my current car (03 VR6 GTI) is undoubtedly more comfortable to drive than any car I have had before so is my mother's prius, but that doesn't make it fun
William Ortiz
fwd cars are fun when they're light. there's no point in having a heavy fwd car. you just need to put some metal trays under the rear wheels, handbrake on, and go to town. or put it in reverse if you wanna do donuts.
Josiah Sullivan
Just another boi racer thread.
Brody Butler
Because you've never driven a good FWD car.
>golf mk 1 >civic EK >fiesta ST >maybe ford Ka
I could go drive a fucking shitbox like the 4 cyl mustang and claim that RWD aren't fun to drive and i would be doing it wrong.
Kayden Harris
>Why can't FWD be fun to drive? Because you don't know how to drive FWD.
>can't kick the back end out Nonsense.
>can't drift You mean long skidz? You can do long skidz with lift off oversteer.
Ryder Anderson
rwd fags dont know how to drive and havent matured past the age of 15 and think sliding and doing skids are the epitome of driving enjoyment
Andrew Morales
I have driven in a km1 golf the only time I was more afraid in a vehicle was in my friends Lada Niva
>Because you don't know how to drive FWD. perhaps >You mean long skidz? You can do long skidz with lift off oversteer. lift off oversteer and the Scandinavian flick is is like fapping into a sock while kicking the rear end out at speed on a RWD is like drunkenly bringing a bar slut home and not wearing a johnny. Fuck it's fun and that roll of the dice ( my little bastard or the fuck is this rash) only makes it better
Henry Harris
Rwd limits exceed the limits a fwd car can do. And once those limits are reached it oversteers, which is a lot more controllable/fun.
James Kelly
>I have driven in a km1 golf >the only time I was more afraid in a vehicle was in my friends Lada Niva So you are a fucking faggot that cant even handle a 110hp FWD shitbox? holy fuck you are pathetic.
Gabriel Lewis
driven IN one ... never driven one not fun cars to be a passenger in
The Lada was leaking gas into the cab, was too afraid to light my cigarette The Mk1 was like it was made from tinfoil, at least that's how it fealt from the passenger seat
Jace Gonzalez
Civics are fun.
t. Hondafag
Nolan Rogers
>dude you can't have fun without drifting Number one sign of a brainlet
Matthew Rodriguez
i have owned all drivetran types
and currently have an AWD and a RWD vehicle
i have had my current RWD car the shortest amount of time, and its by far the most fun
the reason i say that is because i dont need to be going so fast in endangers my life while driving a RWD car and having fun
rwd=slow with style awd=speed, grip, style fwd=practical usable sensable
Adrian Morales
>be honda fag >drive shit box with the worst possible drivetrain setup >g-gu-guise it's f-fun I swear!
Zachary Butler
>lunch trays >drifting
>Where are you going? Wait for me, I need to put my lunch trays under my wheels!
Brody Miller
Oh look ANOTHER thread on Veeky Forums where people can't drive. As for your question OP, that's isn't a car made to be fun to drive, but so are most modern cars with their electric steering. But if you think pickup trucks are fun to drive with their awful suspension and steering, then you just have shit taste.
James Martin
rwd is more fun. End of story. Stop trying to justify buying a "sporty" econobox that's main focus is mpg and practicality. If you don't own rwd or at least awd you bought a car that didn't have fun in mind from the minute it was conceptualized by the design team.
Kayden Gonzalez
you're a fucking idiot, so there's that. Have you ever actually driven on a track before in your life?
Cameron Flores
awd is made to perform, not for shits n giggles
Jayden Fisher
RWD can't make donuts as fast as FWD.
Matthew Morgan
>slow Maybe for you
Jose Morales
>fwd=practical usable sensible, skids with style, too intelligent for normal RWD fuck boys to comprehend
Camden Evans
FWD can be fun with the right setup
RWD will always be king of driftaroo tho
Carson Adams
The biggest advantage FWD is being cheap and lightweight. The ideal FWD sporty car would be smol and affordable. Sadly pretty much everything in this category sucks recently.
Pretty much all moder FWD cars have open diffs, macpherson strut suspension, and lots of torque steer.
Shitty, macpherson strut suspension means the inside tire probably isn't happy coming out of a corner while the outside tire is sticking pretty well. Now you try to apply throttle and the diff sends equal torque to each wheel and the inside wheel starts to loose itself, and because open diff, the outside wheel can't get traction.
The solution is to have good suspension like a classic saab, pre-2000's civics, aw well as accords and FWD A4's. Putting an LSD in there also helps.
Torque steer can be mitigate by balancing the drive halfshafts so they are equally stiff, or just make them the same size to begin with. Mk1 Focus's FWD A4's, and SAAB 900classics do this right.
TL;DR FWD econoboxes don't suck because they're FWD, they suck because they're designed to be cheap turds.
Julian Rivera
A FWD car has to be 1. light 2. low center of gravity 3. mostly stabilised by the rear axle 4. LSD to be fun.
A stiffer sway bar in the rear helps with accellerating out of cornere, especially with a open differential since it pushes the inner front tire down with thet rear inner tire that lifts more. That is why semi trailing arm rear axles are common in FWD econoboxes, they tend to stabilise the rear more than the front sway bar and are cheap.
Sebastian Morgan
>most fun >slushbox automatic The only place for slushbox RWD is towing a caravan.
Jackson Long
LSD allows more grip and even more drift capability via torque transfer (like in ). But it makes torque steer worse, lower torque steer depends essentially on suspension geometry as you've said (non or slightly negative scrub radius, equal lenght driveshafts, no toe variation across the suspension travel etc). Even american engineers managed to eliminate torque steer in the 60's...
