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News & Patch Notes: epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news
Patch 0.40 May 16: epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/releases/v40-0

Hero Related Info:

New Hero Coming May 16 - Phase
youtube.com/watch?v=5LlQHe7e_4Q
Trailer Music: soundcloud.com/omedamusic/lifeline#t=0:00

Latest Released Hero - Revenant
epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/heroes/revenant
youtu.be/mzSpb2TnQ8k
youtu.be/l0rEmd4BD6I

2nd Latest Released Hero - Morigesh
youtu.be/XUp6MdosW58
youtu.be/kDGpxp4MG1M
epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/heroes/morigesh

Leaks -
soundcloud.com/mehteh-trollfacer/tracks
soundcloud.com/omedamusic
imgur.com/a/fdnFM
imgur.com/a/5t1Am

MMR Tracking (community) and Other Information:
agora.gg/
paragon.gg/
>fury.gg has been shutdown

More Hero Build Info:
paragondb.info/calc
paragon.wikia.com/wiki/Paragon_Wiki

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youtube.com/watch?v=VvXHmQ7Cqh8
surveymonkey
youtube.com/watch?v=VvXHmQ7Cqh8&app=desktop
twitter.com/AnonBabble

P.S.

To the user who claimed I was lying about getting 3 golden loot crate keys already, consider the following:

>1 for day 60 login bonus
>1 for completing all three tiers of the monthly Mega Vault that was released with Phase's patch
>1 for completing all three tiers of the next monthly Mega Vault after they reset it for v40.1 this past Tuesday

Why they reset the vault in the middle of the month is a mystery to me, but I'm not complaining. It was entirely possible to open the mega vault twice this month as well as get your login reward.

My heart goes out to everyone who got card packs or rep from both mega vaults so far.

Where my bushbros at?

Also what is an easy way to level up, I just picked this game up last week and I'm having trouble leveling up characters

>Why they reset the vault in the middle of the month is a mystery to me

Didn't you notice the >week 3/4 and the >week 4/4?
It means you get a shot at the monthly mega vault every week (provided you get the 90 stars) and if you click on the silver logo in the bottom right, the game tells you that received rewards won't be included again.
Although that probably means you shouldn't have been able to get the golden key twice, ah well.

>that guy who said Dekker is picked just as much as support as Phase then got btfo so hard he just packed up and moved out of the country
>that silver Khaimera who built crit bonus and no crit who thought he was godlike because he got 20 kills vs bronzes and silvers then got owned so badly he committed suicide

Except neither of them think they got owned because idiots in MOBAs are always full of themselves.

TB and Sparrow look fucking retarded with their weapons constantly ready like that. Especially TB's waddle run thing.

man I really dont understand this game at all

Bot games give exp.

Would you guys recommend this game? Is there anything in particular you like or dislike about it?

I'm wondering if I should give it a try one of these days.

>tfw I also got the double gold key bug

I wonder how long until Epic fixes it? Conversation about it has started at the Paragon Reddit, so probably soon?

It's one of those games that has really high highs and really low lows. You are either having an absolute blast and stomping the enemy team or you are being stomped repeatedly and watching your elo fall and getting even angrier.

The loot is the key factor here. When you get a really good loot drop, you feel obligated to keep playing despite how mad you were before. Epic knows how to keep people hooked until they lose their will.

Can you not just play with friends and always stomp.

>knows how to keep people hooked

I've been getting nothing but rep from my diamond chests for weeks.

that's all i get from everything.
Pretty sure if i open a loot box ill get rep too at this moment.

>my team is down huge in kills
>we still win because the enemy team won't push

Its the same in every game, if you don't play the objective you don't win.

but in real mobas if you feed big time the other team just has to look at you and you die, paragon you can feed your brains out and still be able to participate in teamfights

I FUCKING HATE THIS ABOUT PARATRASH
>go 8-0 within the first 25 minutes, often killing the same guy
>the carry is 0-7, has 10 more last hits than me
>he has 32CP and I have 36
>he can actually stand toe to toe with me and maybe win
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

we only won because i carried hard and they had a steel with zero armor. my team just kept getting into team fights without me and they always lost but me and my teams fey kept bailing our team out.
>the carry is 0-7, has 10 more last hits than me
>he has 32CP and I have 36
don't let him farm then

???? Did you not see how he's 0-7? That's not letting him farm if I ever saw it. I should have specified, I was playing offlane and around then I had 90 last hits. They were super aggressive and kept getting ganked.

The point is as a carry he died 7 times, got no kills or assists, was out of the game for a noticeable amount of time and he nearly caught up. This happens almost every game and its a fundamental issue with the CP system. You can't snowball or break ahead because I guess Ebin is afraid peoples' fee fees will get hurt or something?

>enjoy playing punchbot
>other other people autolock jungle
>shit the bed in other lanes and contribute to loss

i need to expand my pool badly

But punch bot is a way of life. Because of the recent changes to health and armor + thermobond, he can be tank as all hell while still dealing a retarded amount of damage

still dead

Tu Madre jajajajajaja

i got you bro but the fuckcunt OP forgot to include it

docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf-OeaQWz6k7F6BSPrZYLmZNkfAzTWowau3caYBB2rfE4Rc1Q/viewform

though considering we barely make it to 60 individual IPs per thread and this already got way more responses than I ever thought it would any who were interested likely already voted. I'll post it one last time before the weekend and then Monday I'll post the results

Why we on page 10?

because barely anyone knows this game exists user

This general is fucking pathetic. The only lifeblood it has is guessing what the pubes of each female character are like lmao.

Anyone else feel like they need to build at least a BIT of mana or mana regen on Feng Mao?

Can't tell you how many times I've been dueling a fucking Kwang or something, done my full rotation of abilities and then went for the killing teleport only to be a pussy hair's worth of mana away from being able to.

My life is pathetic so I guess I belong here.

>only person in the entire match who builds armor
ebin simply ebin

>Building armor

All you need is a Greystone, he doesn't even have to have armor, and you can literally kill people under their own inhibitors after chasing them through the first two towers less than 10 minutes into the game if you bring 1-2 other people.

and yet its still better than all the other generals whose lifeblood is just tripfag drama

Yeah, you're right. But there are also generals that are more lively and have no tripfag drama. In fact, we have had a couple tripfags here before.

>Join a 3 stack
>Suddenly winning games like nobodies business

So this is the power of being in a party

>In fact, we have had a couple tripfags here before.
i'm glad they're gone lest we end up like /dg/ full of tripfag shippers

I think this general is quite lively for a beta game that has 0 advertising and that doesn't really have much to actually discuss. I keep the tab open in the background and check in as we got whatever amount of posts we get. Sometimes I get to have a short discussion or debate with someone and sometimes I just talk about Sparrows bush and then I go back to whatever I was doing. This general has a very relaxed feeling that I enjoy almost like when you were 13 and used to go on Gamefaqs or something and have a discussion about some game or just shitpost a little and I don't need 100 posts per hour like the others have to want it to stay around.

>This general has a very relaxed feeling

That's exactly what I'm going to miss most when Paragon does grow and get larger. I was in /smgen/ in it's every beginning and that was the best time to be around now it's full of Scyalla fags and waifuposting.I pray to god Paragon doesn't get a loli or a prepubscent looking girl

I don't think they'll do that since they seem to be trying to a keep a small amount of for lack of a better word realism to the characters and some 6 year old girl killing Grux or Rampage just wouldn't fit. I think Phase and Shinbi are as close as they'll go to that style.

after watching the latest community corner im convinced that the dev team is flat out retarded. they say grux and rampage arent effective currently at being tanks because they don't do damage or disrupt while they tank, ignoring grux having a pull and free damage with his bleed and ramp having a massive stun that does 400+ damage and the fact that fucking tanks dont need to do damage in the first place.
and then my favorite line which was that you need to dive and focus phase and if she blinds you when you do that its ok because you need to know where everyone is by assuming before you get blinded where they would be or some stupid fucking shit.
I lose more hope for this game by the day and Cameron especially is just obviously an idiot who makes it blatantly obvious why he's the lead dev on this game instead of having any input on any popular MOBA

Game is shit and dead, ugly waifus.

>Game is shit and dead
i agree
>ugly waifus
thats just not true user

>ugly waifus
naw

why do people who like this game and can draw this well waste their time on this instead of making porn

I agree with you 100% on Phase, because most random teams will lack the coordination necessary to take her out effectively. I feel like she's a pubstomp support hero; bad in professional or premade matches but really good against teams of scrubs.

I can see the point they're making about Grux and Rampage. Let me explain: Rampage and Grux don't really have the same level of teamfight stamina as, say, a Narbash or Muriel. In order for them to be a long-term threat in a fight, you have to build offensive items, whether it's power, pen, or attack speed, because if they don't deal damage, they lose a lot of their threat. Rampage has a skillshot stun and his ult that can allow for towerdives, and Grux has the pull and snap stun on his ult, but most of that is pretty limited team setup if they can't follow up themselves.

In contrast, the "actual" tanks can build thick with armor, health, and team-focused actives and still be a threat because their kit contributes on its own, regardless of card power or level. Narbash has Rampage's stun (it's almost the same as I look up the stats), but he's also got a decent team regen ability, an enormous slow and knockup, and the movement speed buff. Riktor has a silly-long pull, a silence/slow, and a decent-sized stun. Dekker has the stun, a killing field, and a big damn slow. They can build thicker while still being a threat.

What I don't agree with is that this is somehow a problem. I enjoy this "all-rounder" type of character, who are actually best building both tank and damage.

dude what? narbash and riktor are support tanks, they need good kits to fuck with people or else they'd literally be useless. giving someone like ramp or grux a kit even half as good as either of them means they instantly become broken.
the problem is the power creep they're going through right now is insane. just comparing phase to someone like dekker who just 2 weeks ago was universally considered the best support for an example.
and this is what i mean with cameron being a fucking dumbass instead of recognizing that the problem is the massively overtuned characters they're shitting out #every3weeks his solution is to just redo the entire cast to the point where characters that are already top fucking tier like grux and made even more OP.

I used to play Smite, and something I wish they'd take from that playbook is the kits of heroes like Ares and Xing Tian: CC is not the end-all, be-all of tanking. Phase was actually a good step in this direction.

Despite being in a game thick with cc (as in about 2/3 of the heroes have a stun, knockup, or root, and everyone can build items that give consistent slows), these relatively cc-low heroes perform well as tanks and supports because of percentage damage, damage reduction auras, and really good personal survivability that comes up specifically in teamfights. They also had ults that forced the enemy team to build a certain way, but that was just icing on the cake.

>tfw forcing everyone to buy beads as Ares or they were fucked

Smite was alright

>tfw securing fountain kills with Ares ult

You kinda right.

Gotta say though, I do not miss the sheer level of burst most mages and even adcs had when I left.

My Grux deck is toeing the line between tanky and damaging, but not particularly good at either of them. Does anyone have a good grux build?

I'll leave out my early game cards, but the build goes like this:

>2 Windcarvers with 1, 2 damage and 3 attack speed
>Blood Soaked armor with 1, 2, 3, basic armor (for bleeding Raptors and OP, plus some survivability)
>Eldermage Amulet with 1, 2, 3 power
>Wind Carver Blade with 3, 3, power and 3 attack speed
>Thermobond with 1, 1, 2 ability armor

If the deck is trash, just tell me and suggest a better one. If it can be altered to do either tanking or damage better without gimping the build and becoming some sort of glass cannon, let me know.

Unrelated, but I would kill to have some kind of summoner hero in this game.

Not sure how it would work given the nature of the game, but it might be cool and different than what we have now.

Less of a social stigma and more marketable/able to get their foot in the door with other clients?

I know I have a friend who used to draw porn really well in high school, but everyone shunned him for it and thought he was some kind of molester. Once he got to college, he dropped the porn (or at least uses a pen name now or something), and started doing stuff more like the pick you're replying to and people are always paying him to draw them shit or make tattoo designs for them.

When you say summoner, do you mean something like creating minions?

Maybe not summoning a swarm of things like minions, but possibly summoning 1 thing that could be used as a meat shield in fights or something. Like I said, I'm not sure how it would work in Paragon, especially since towers are piss easy to push as it is. If someone could add 2-5 minions to the wave as they please, it would be horrible.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Let's brainstorm some ways it might work without breaking the game.

I think of summoning a spectre of the hero that chases after and sticks to a target enemy by "attacking" with a slow. Although it has increased movement speed, the spectre can be walked through, so it's essentially a really persistent slow and some light damage, like half of the user's basic attack power or something. The spectre can be destroyed as well.

not enough health and too focused on DPS. your late game grux should be a fucking tank and you barely have more than the HP he gets through leveling. go for something like this

guardians ward: 3x 1HP
eldermage: 1x 1HP 1x 2HP 1xMajor Strike
either a copy of the above eldermage or a thickblood/power chord that equals 9 points
bloadsoaked: 3x 3armor
Thermo: make it equal 30 points of ability armor to cancel pen no more and no less
Adamant edge: 2x 3HP 1xMajor Strike

>He doesn't build full crit/cup of the vampire Grux, pull squishies into Grux Hell and then stampede out

my dick doesn't care about social stigmas user i need that countess bush

i think its great that people of all skill levels can enjoy this game and i wish you luck and success as you continue to play

Thanks, I just reached grandmaster so...
I would post my Agora, but I play with some very prestigious pillars of the community and I don't want their gameplay footage to be spoiled before it hits Youtube.

i think thats great congratulations on your achievement

Are you coming onto me?

that depends, do you have a nice long thick bush

I don't understand why some cards still don't have art. Is the only guy they trust to make the card art on constant vacation? Or do they just not give a fuck?
Same thing for loot animations. Loot's the addicting "wow factor" that new players will hunger for more of. I'd wish it'd be a little more exciting.

no real point in doing any art when they're ditching the entire card system they have for a completely new one

I guess you got a lucky glitch? It wasn't supposed to reset.

dude what if we made narbash but he can keep his heal on forever for free and it actually scales into late game and his thunk is replaced with a 3 second AOE CC that's even stronger than a stun and has no cooldown and he has a slow +root with 6000 range that might as well be point and click for how easy it is to hit and his ult makes one of his teammates do 1 million DPS for a minute and he can pull teammates out of danger from halfway across the map and any time he uses any of these abilities his heal target becomes invulnerable for 2 seconds

it is not your time to die

>epic teases the next hero is a carry
>then they start teasing stance changes
Are they really gonna make Wukong a carry? I thought for sure he would be a jungler from his kit

haha bro just dive her bro she isnt op at all bro

youtube.com/watch?v=VvXHmQ7Cqh8

>phase at the beginning of the video gets towerdived and dies

>full health phase + a teammate with prime buff killed a phase with 10hp under tower so she's balanced

Pretty sure everybody in /parag/ knows that Phase needs a nerf. He was just pointing out how funny it is that she dies right at the start

surveymonkey com/r/MXZQ5PN?id=973a481a94f1472a9168fed0b7b0a34d
Epic wants you to tell them exactly how trash this game is and why

That's what makes it good

If they could just hit one part of phases kit id be happy with leaving her alone after. Either the million mile root or the 3 second blind need a nerf

>3 second blind where you can still use your skills and deck to nullify damage, run away, or secure a kill needs a nerf
>2 second stuns, even the aoe ones, are perfectly fine how they are

>do well in a game, get a key at the end
>excellent
>Pink Dragonlord Greystone skin

anyone here post on the official paragon forums before? I made a fairly long post earlier, and i just expected it to show up as per usual on forums. I saw some quick message for a few seconds about "if you're a veteran poster it could take up to 10 minutes for post to show up" or something
But it's been an hour and my post hasn't showed up.

Google yielded no information about this issue.
So what would be preventing my post from...posting?

Sounds like Epic are just vetting posts at this point. On the one hand, can't say that I blame them considering the majority of the posts there are autistic rants in broken English, but still.

ahh that makes sense. Thanks.
I guess that means at least feedback is getting read by someone as well?

One would hope, but I'd imagine that "someone" is just some Joe Schmo forum mod instead of someone in a position to relay decent information to the devs.
Honestly, Reddit seems to be the place they listen to most, scary as that might be (just checked: there's a post asking for Rampage to be buffed ffs).I mean, I'll take it, because I can do well with him as is, but Jesus Christ

Late but I kinda like the idea of a summoner. You could offset having a stronger summon with using hp as a resource involved as well. A summon would also cost x% of your current hp and would have that as its hp.
That way the summon wouldn't have to be piss weak. Could we even trust epic to do npc ai though? It would probably just be a buggy mess with an autistic summon attacking random shit. I don't see it working unless it was just a skadi style target method.

If it takes several minutes for a post to show up it means they're vetting posts so you're right.

>Enemy team takes Kwang, Morigesh and Howitzer
>I take steel
C O U N T E R P I C K

Anybody got any fun troll strats for age of intellect?

>build an entire deck around Greystone's Stoic re-work
>mid-game switch to Incessant Onslaught, Hemorrhage and Whirling Wands with attack speed upgrades
>teammates think I'm an absolute fucking retard for going dps Greystone
>enemy team is probably either really confused or pissed whenever they have to fight me because I barely take damage
>mfw anyone that tried to 1v1 me after my upgrades probably reported me for cheating

>each tick of hive will destroy ablative armor
>counter

That's not even troll its 100% legit. I built straight Power & Ability Pen on Riktor then went around early game banking people. I'm 1-1 on that lol I ended at 9 kills on the win. That was in low gold tho idk if that would work now.

>things I just made up because they sound like they're probably true
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