/wgg/ Wargames General

>What is this?
A general for all strategic, operational, and tactical wargames that can't generate enough traffic to sustain their own generals.

>Attention Grabbing tags:
/wgg/ /sdg/ /rtt/ /rts/ /rtsg/ /tsg/ /mowg/ /mowassg/ /ctag/

>Example welcome games:
Steel Division: Normandy 44
Wargame: Red Dragon
Combat Mission
Call to Arms
Flashpoint Campaigns
Graviteam Tactics
Theatre of War
Men of War
Command: Modern Air Naval Operations
Armored Brigade
Close Combat
Steel Panthers MBT


>Introduction to Steel Division:
paradoxplaza.com/steel-division-player-guide/

>Graviteam Tactics Downloads:
pastebin.com/TwMLZQ6h (embed)
pastebin.com/cgWbuPSS (embed)

>Interesting history links:
Cold War military technology ads:
vintageadbrowser.com/military-ads-1980s
/wgg/ misc Cold War literature:
mediafire.com/download/zfm69f0k91pmf0y/wgg-lit-v1.3.rar
The Soviet Army: troops, organization & equipment
fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-3.pdf
USMC intelligence North Korea handbook:
fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nkor.pdf
Everything there is to know about the T-62:
thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.my/2015/12/t-62.html

>Teamspeak server
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997

>Discord
discord.gg/cbbQvEP

>Legacy Wargame General pasta and game-info repository:
pastebin.com/70Nwcb5m (embed) (embed)
dropbox.com/s/lon0cgmjfqwq1oi/WargameRD_Hidden_Knowledge_Spreadsheet.xlsx?dl=0
docs.google.com/document/d/1UvBiH3lrCFzLYnRzNzF49yVtaNHYLfi7dgMpNE517RM/

Other urls found in this thread:

eugensystems.com/steel-division-week-one/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

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buy combat mission

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but rutracker has it for free

u can put fobs in water

the stream can generate electricity, lowering the running cost
good idea

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Combat Mission games are really great but people shouldn't be rewarding Battlefront for their absurd pricing structures. Buy the game, buy the engine upgrade, buy the expansion, buy the next engine upgrade, etc. That's pretty insulting to a consumer these days.

do it again Harris
same for you LeMay

Do it again bomber harris

>tfw still reliant on bullet time when things get hectic

Any suggestions for Fallschirmjager regiments?

Bring those sexy guns in the support tab.

what game?

Support flame infantry is never worth it. Two man squads insta die, and its only acceptable with AT launcher teams because you have no alternative.

Why the fuck do you have so much command infantry?
Why two cards of Kubel Munitions>
why no phase A at guns?
why no anti tank plane in your deck?


Garbage out of 10

>cant read the replies
damn son

Better?

yes but i recommend replacing 1 mortar card with off map meme tillery, and replaing the BMW bike with phase b recon autocannon

get rid of a recon team to fill out your inf tab that's the one that should always be filled.

playing these guys was like playing the AI, yet they did surprisingly ok

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how do you beat ram tanks in phase A

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How different is Red Dragon from Normandy?
I got Normandy and it's okay, (I'm hilariously awful at it) but the cold war speaks to me a little more dubya2, unless they release an eastern front xpack. (Planes excepted.)

Is the interface roughly the same? Am I totally wrong and Red Dragon is a completely different sort of game?

RD is more complicated. More unit types and interactions between them, faster pace, more units per player (but less micro for each unit).

You can see the interface etc here , it's less functional than SD - for example there's no line of sight tool. I think the game overall is prettier.

I think RD and SD are similar types of game, but SD is a bit more mainstream, simplified to make it easier to get into.

>faster pace
misspoke, meant to convey that the units are more responsive and as a consequence theres overall more situations where you're like "react in 2s or your important unit will get blapped by this fast-moving threat"

eugensystems.com/steel-division-week-one/
>"We’re also testing the long-awaited Observer Mode for multiplayer, and a balance patch is also on its way. Some (very) cool stuff is also coming, but it’s a bit too early to talk about it."
You ready for another wave of Scottish nerfs?

you mean tiger buffs

doesnt RD have really expensive boat units to bomb mainland too?

>canada nerfs
>scottish nerfs
>axis buffs
>6th buffs pls

How is it simplified?

They just need to decrease the req cost of Tiger II P and Tiger II H

I'm not even meming.

they also need to increase veterancy on allied armor divisions

This is the 88mm Flak. Say something nice about her!

amazing troop training tool
pushing it through the fields really builds character

>tfw it takes 3 minutes to unlimber and ready an 88 to fire in real life
>takes about 1 second in Steel Division

its something that kind of annoys me with guns on carriages in this game
>crew can set up gun and fire in the time it takes a tank to turn its turret and aim

why even have tanks

People are now complaining that Im winning through cheap spam rush
but what else are you supposed to do
wait until your panthers lose the game for you?
halftracks and at guns for days

i've been having much more success with fallschirmjäger divisions especially because planes are so sturdy compared to RD

sometimes i just wish i had an ally with an armored division though makes offensives a bit easier

i can be your tank ally bro

2 star vet Luftlande flak88 is CUTE. C U T E

AT guns

I just sent in sacrificial stuka while my double vet panzer 3s made them go away
worked pretty well
so much better than the hs129

guaranteed to be a half-assed POS like all the other new "features" they added

somebody pbem combat mission with me

>why even have tanks

Try moving that gun anywhere, asshole

What CM games do you have, user?

Black Sea, Normandy (only on 2.0 though), and Shock Force

I have v3.12 of BfN so I assume that's a no-go?

M O B I L I T Y

>whats the value in having a mobile pillbox with a giant cannon on it.

I could almost accept questioning the existence of tanks when Hinds exist, but the west refuses to make an equivalent of them.

>I could almost accept questioning the existence of tanks when Hinds exist,

Simple, it takes a fraction of the time to train a tank crewman than a helicopter pilot, the things are incomparable in terms of operating difficulty. African warlords can somewhat commandeer a tank, good luck getting a helicopter up and running and used in combat.

Steel Division isn't fun to play against pubbies

Its a very fun game if you don't like challenge.

At leas the AI in Steel Division is better than in Wargame.

I enjoy the game but playing in matches with pubbies on your team is amazingly frustrating

>still no sound mods

I dont see how great the ai is. Maybe because I havent done the singleplayer. Its great eugen included that the ai takes over for leaver players but usually the Ai just masses swarms of infantry as artillery bait and herps around for me.

Though thats an annoyingly effective strategy to grind offensives to a halt. So theres that.

>Join a game against a stack on Colombine
>3rd FSJ and Spoiled Squirts on the Axis
>101st and me as Red Devils on Allies.
>I take the town with Paras after a naval bombardment opening
>Push past the factory into the area where all his mortars were
>Get 1 squad in a building and it they fight off 2 FSJ and 1 leader trying to get rid of them
>Stack quits

I wanted a decent game lads

Having played quite a few vs Ai matches just to try out divisions I think its a great improvement over the previous "Rush all day, everyday" Ai in Red Dragon. If you put me against a medium AI and told me it was a player, I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.

On the flip side, 2v2s with a friend are great.

Quoted wrong guy sorry

Mobility is great sure but in this game everything is slow as fuck.

The difference between a crewed weapon and a tank is night and day though.

There are also other advantages to armour that crewed weapons don't enjoy.

AT guns move at a literal snails pace though, and good luck if it gets caught in the open by a fighter

how sneaky is very good?
can I send them forward through small hedgerows without worrying about them getting spotted?

>Get 1 squad in a building and it they fight off 2 FSJ and 1 leader trying to get rid of them
h-how

Units take more damage on the move, and they were running within 100m of the paras, who were in a building. I had a mortar firing on them too

>I had a mortar firing on them too
I have good experience with the 101s howitzer

Yeah, your FSJs are good. But they're not advance under artillery good.

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>enemy AT gun appears outta thin air and starts blasting your tank
>order the tank to reverse into cover
>"Hol up lemme just do some sick turns real quick"
>does a 360 before basking himself in flames due to a Fuel Explosion
Get your act together Eugen.

the weapon on skdfz 251/21 says it is anti air gun but Im just getting no gun when targeting air

>using line infantry to bum rush close range specialists
What an idiot

You also have literally days in advance to position troops and equipment in real life. In SD you have about 180 seconds at the start of the match.

It does yeah but except on certain maps it isn't a useful expenditure of resources.

>not using the meme tier recoiless rifles in your AT & SUP tabs.

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the only good recces a dead one

I just went through hell.

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For King and Country, they served.

>look at opponents
>no fallschirms
What crazy bizarro world is this, I can't play a single game without getting overrun with goddamn FS

>those losses
are you me?

P O L A N

S T R O N K

kek. Is he playing as Pegasus? They have fantastic Phase A AT

How easy is the transition from red dragon to SD?

yes, never saw any AT
>play as pegasus against an armored div.
>dont buy any AT

What a tool

something similar happened to me yesterday
>play luft
>player opposite me has no AA
>complain the entire match about plane spam

Theres a lot of people who just don't understand how to play.

This game would really do well to have some kind of lets play series for casuals

I found it super easy, some people struggle.

SD it the game I always wanted WG to be so I guess that helps.

why would you want to transition?

>hordes of cheap tanks

I love this

Are you even trying Axis?

why did they even try to take the town?

is this 3v3 on the 1v1 map?

Yeah.