Haha, it's so funny, because you have a different opinion, so everyone else's opinion is trivial. Haha, you have bested us all, good sir, with your razor wit. I tip my hat to you and bid you a good morrow.
I feel like something is missing. I can't quite place it.
Isaac Young
>Remove role of commissioner and /merit/; create a 4CC Parliament comprised of all active managers + /aesco/ and run the cup democratically.
Okay that sounds like a lot of fun, but there's no way it wouldn't end horribly.
Leo Lee
Ved where
Logan Walker
fuck hockey btw
Parker Jenkins
How about just a PMQs once a week so we can yell at that baby for hiding from all of us?
Hunter Stewart
>fullbacks and 2CB
>3 CB and 1 DMF
>3 CB and 2 DMF
Which ones do you like and why?
Blake Ward
In other words, just like the cup now but more fun.
Evan Clark
what's hockey?
Carson Ward
It is the /vgl/. Who gives a shit when real drama is happening to the comp that really matters.
Ryan Gonzalez
I'm sad Clown as Captain isn't on anymore.
Tyler Roberts
pic related
Connor King
Lear is a shit commissioner, /merit/ is spineless, and comfy is garbage that shouldn't be hosted.
Mason Cook
don't know why you asked me in particular but I think each have their own merits, and I'd use different ones against different offenses. fullbacks will always be my favourite position though
both of these would be fun, i've got a few shitposts up my sleeve that would really appreciate a dedicated audience
Robert Moore
I'm not watching, how many bad calls did the refs make in favor of the penguins to get them 3 goals in 10 minutes?
Alexander Bennett
As a small market manager, I dont want to see my team removed just because a bunch of people do it for the memes or because they dont like me. Such a system cant be trusted to us autists.
Wyatt Phillips
This, but unironically. Lear already ragequit a bunch of Discords and fucked off from here. He should ragequit /merit/ and finish the job.
Cooper Martin
Hi Lear
Jayden Hill
Never heard of it.
Henry Perez
What makes you think I was being ironic?
Carson Edwards
This can be a future, managers can make shady deals to gang up on other managers they don't like and take them out of the cup.
Jaxson Morales
Has the Outies poll been posted yet?
Benjamin Thompson
3 CB 1 DMF 2 CMF (one of them gold) silver LWF/RWF 77 SS gold CF this is what wins summer
Oliver Smith
This would be interesting, and I'd embrace it as a sort of side-league done for fun, had it been suggested at a time of more peace.
Andrew Reed
>VGL
William Bailey
>tfw already planning my shady deals for Summer
Oliver Long
This would unironically improve the cup. It feels very /gsg/.
Andrew Roberts
>not fullbacks and 3 CBs
Jackson Howard
Who will you trust then?
Ryan Hernandez
>5atb I bet you run double CP and all destroyer midfield too
Ryan Watson
I bet you think gegenpress is OP too
Adam Hill
none of the fullbacks + 3 CB builds I've ever experimented with have shown promise.
Have their been any in 2017 that worked well so far?
Easton Reyes
no one cares about managers except other managers
Austin Howard
Well yeah but who the fuck do you think is sitting around posting in offseason /4ccg/
Colton Robinson
then keep it in /4ccg/ and out of the cup.
Nathaniel Watson
Excuse me but COULD Veeky Forums PLEASE GET NEW KITS FOR SUMMER HOLY FUCK thanks for your attention.
Josiah Martin
why don't you do it yourself fag
Jordan Mitchell
FUCKING FURRIES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Henry Cruz
/u/ ran it once against the wooden spoon of winter and trashed said wooden spoon. Then again so did a terrible [s4s] so that's not exactly an accomplishment
also I've experimented with a really really shitty height abuse silver CB defensive GKs poss long 5-3-2 that kind of worked but I'd execute myself on stream before ever submitting an export with defensive GKs or poss long 5-3-2 as the main tactic +2 with a silver central CB is ebin though
Joseph Evans
Nah, only 1 Destroyer (on the bench) and no Creative Playmakers
I haven't really experimented around with Advanced Instructions yet
Oliver Lopez
Gegen is German for "against". Why not call it againstpress? Or counter-press, or something that sounds good? Or does it sound cool because German?
Jaxson Howard
Veeky Forums should take the /vn/ kits.
Carson Jones
At least make the kits be decided by the Veeky Forums League as well because fucking shit enough of those P4 kits
Zachary Sanders
how did it make defensive GK even "sort of work"?
It sounds awful but also curious.
Camden Edwards
when did /u/ fight /an/ in 2017?
Oliver Rodriguez
It's just because it sounds cool and is easy for English speakers to pronounce. Seems to be why things like "zona mista" stay in their native language whilst "totaalvoetbal" gets translated.
Levi Lewis
Origin person.
Xavier Nguyen
Nuke Australia
Nicholas Long
There was talks of Shakes making something new way back after Veeky Forums promoted to Winter but then he got busy doing tons of aesthetics stuff for 4CC in general.
Should probably at least replace one. I don't got no time for it myself though and I'm bad at designing kits anyway.
Aiden Cook
Defensive Height Abuse GK, play either 3ATB or give fullbacks Build Up (or no play style) instead of Offensive Fullback. Fullbacks (or the 2nd and 3rd Center Back) stay back and protect against those garbage Height Abuse crosses. You can play 5-7 Defensive Line without worrying about through balls giving up 3-4 free goals. It's not like PES 16 where a Forward vs. a Goalkeeper is always a goal.
Brody Jenkins
Summer group stage, it's gonna be the match that keeps /u/ elite
Asher Garcia
Since there are a gorillion kit slots, you guys could do something like honoring the top 3 ranked Veeky ForumsL teams by getting their first kits in there, and maybe the fan favorite as the fourth extra one as well (if it didn't already rank in the top 3). That of course in addition to (a hopefully new) official main kit and the official second kit (which might as well stay as the Katawa Shoujo one because everyone knows about their general). Don't mind me just being a wild idea man
Gabriel Rivera
how does such a build actually attack though? It seems like you would have to rely on longball, but it's so alien that I wouldn't be surprised if I'm missing something.
Kayden Ortiz
the sliders I ran with mine were literally PES15 /cgl/'s p/l/c bullshit. I mean you *could* try bog standard c/s/c but from my experience it fucking sucks unless you're /u/ memeing and possession short 5atb anything is a lost cause
Xavier Hill
/fgog/ has the best VGL kit. Prove me wrong.
Protip: You can't.
Aaron Williams
...
Joseph Bell
We were aesthetic before, but it's time for all kids to get out of the pool.
Adult Shitposting Only.
Ian Howard
>it's time for all kids to get out of the pool. Or to get in. Wet loli tastes better.
Josiah Clark
>(which might as well stay as the Katawa Shoujo one because everyone knows about their general) If any kit's getting removed it's that one
Oliver Baker
>tfw already got all my testing done >no big rush before summer >will actually get to enjoy a tournament I manage in
Carter Myers
>testing Try it again tomorrow, it won't work
Cooper Walker
not hard to get all your testing done early when you only know how to run one tactic
Based on the last few threads, I put a number of different forms of government for the 4CC on a survey. Not as may responses as I hoped, but the results are interesting nonetheless. The site won't let me expand pic related, so I'll note the color by each option so you can make sense of the data. By order of preference:
1/blue) Keep commissioner in charge, replace Lear with new commissioner. 2/red) Remove role of commissioner, put /merit/ in charge as a fully democratic committee. 3/yellow) Remove role of commissioner and /merit/; create a 4CC Parliament comprised of all active managers + /aesco/ and run the cup democratically. 4/green) Keep commissioner in charge, keep Lear as commissioner.
Hudson Morris
ok so now we know what each color means but what why are their 4 versions of each colored bar?
what do the lines of text at the bottom that are cut off say in full?
Bentley Hall
people who selected x first, second, third, and fourth
Adam Reyes
this is why you pay attention in your intro stats class lads
Luke Walker
thanks for explaining.
Cooper Bell
The text that is cut off is the survey options. It goes from 1 on the left to 4 on the right. So, looking at the chart, "keep commissioner in charge, replace Lear with new commissioner" is the first option on the left, was the #1 choice on aggregate, and also the number 1 number 1 choice (see blue column).
William Price
Even though this poll is incredibly misleading and contains many fallacies, I can't believe Lear got Dragonfag to rig the poll for him.
Brandon Garcia
A poll isn't an argument. It can't "contain fallacies."
I tried to make it cover every conceivable option, so I don't see how it's misleading.
Xavier Reyes
I'm not the other user but it is very possible for polls to have issues or biases, which is what user means.
Carson Powell
I mean I know it's not an official poll, but you have to be very careful how you set up polls, the voting time, the options, and location of the poll are all factors that kinda skew this one.
