Spessmen on a Space Station - /ss13g/

Because we've effectively chased all of them off, nexis, cluster, pjb, bauds, sood, they've all decided to wash their hands of our codebase

>people who got burnt out on byond code and left
>>run off
>PJB
>implying

No other codebase this problem of people getting "burnt out on byond code". It's obvious they are being turned off by all the malicious people we have playing here.

How is the perfomernanceses on other codebases compared to here?

PJB is autistic, cluster is literally retarded, rip sood, rip bauds, rip nexis

>other codebases who merge everything regardless of quality or how out of place it is in spess
:thinking:

Performance you mean?
None of them compare, since clusterfack was the best optimization coder ss13 has ever seen.

okay cluster.

okay hothead
seriously, my fucking sides

Is there any other reason that our performance would be leagues ahead of anyone else when only one person has ever gone through the trouble of optimizing our code? Even now TG takes several minutes to process a station destroying bomb.

Talking about performance, as someone who stopped playing for about half a year and came back recently I'm amazed at how the modified goonlights are finally fast now.
I can even use a macro to activate a flashlight for perfectly synced strobing!

I will offer a hypothesis that people who can make some fairly robust code have a greater tendency to burn out on the shitpile that is BYOND.

>cluster is the only one who optimized code
>cluster was the best at it

I mean let's look at it rationally

>TG codebase
>existed for years
>has the largest amount of coders
>claimed to have the best optimized code ever
>a single person optimizes Veeky Forums and for the first time makes a 30fps server with lagless explosions
>TG ports all their changes and still aren't as good

Is there someone else? Was there someone better? You can see all the PRs on github with a single search

>shitty c*llabs still merge untested shit like borg tipping
>it wasn't even explained well
>merges it on a """testing""" basis, meaning that it'll just be forgotten and never reverted
>doesn't even make a poll on the server

N3X15, Cluster, PJB, bauds, and sood are all INACTIVE collaborators.
I'm walking about ACTIVE collaborators. The ones who have labeled/commented on shit in the past week.

hello??

please reply telling me who's responsible for this magical performance upgrade

It's not a performance change at all, they just made the lighting system tick more often. It makes lighting use a lot more cpu but makes lighting updates faster.

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so you're telling me i should rigger all the lights i can to a single trigger and macro it?

In which case there are ~2 "active" collaborators both of which are the ones people are complaining about

What is this retard logic

Are you retarded? It's not hard to comprehend.

>you must be retarded because you can't understand my autistic mind

It's not fucking hard to follow
>Veeky Forums is a baycode branch which is known for being laggy as fuck
>TG claimed to be the most optimized codebase in existence
>one guy cleans up the entire laggy fucking baycode codebase, makes the server 30fps instead of 10fps, and makes singularities/explosions lagless

How does this not immediately make them the best optimization coder in ss13?

>I can follow it so anyone else can!
>I swear, I'm not autistic!
>ANYONE can follow my logic!

I'm sorry that you're braindead

just make alkysine

>one guy
Okay cluster

If you weren't around during that time you shouldn't go pushing revisionist histories like that

>It was ALL ME I swear guys!
>Just ignore literally every other coder!

I'm not cluster but you can ask ANY of the coders. Or better yet you could look at github.
Poke through them PRs, half of his in 2015 were optimizations.

>If you weren't around during that time you shouldn't go pushing revisionist histories like that
>cluster is the sole reason Veeky Forums is optimized.
You keep telling yourself that cluster. Maybe one day you can circle jerk with PBJ and it won't be statutory rape.

Who else could you point to?

The thing about github is that it's a group effort. I'm sorry that your autistic mind can't grasp that concept.

So you cant find anyone else who worked on it, got it.

So the concept flew over your head just like I thought it would, got it.

The "concept" that someone else worked on it, but with no actual examples lmao

>He can't understand groups of people working together to accomplish a shared goal
I feel sorry for you, user.

>groups of people
>all the PRs are public
>he cant point out other people in that group

You're either illiterate, incompetent, or ignorant

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You made the claim cluster was the sole optimizer of Veeky Forums. Burden of proof lies on you there. I'm not going through the years of github to find every contribution by everyone to optimize shit. There are a lot. It should be easy for you to find proof of your claim since it's "cluster optimized everything"

also you are talking to different people. You seem to be missing that.

>proxypoll

These are just a SMALL number of examples
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/3209
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/3616
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/3616
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/4318
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/4405
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/4505
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/4531
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5006
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5155
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5226
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5273
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5315

You can search optimizations all you want, but you wont find any from anyone else until 2016 at the earliest and by then we were already optimized and running at 30fps

I would vote yes these days on an official server poll just out of spite because I've given up.

Where are all the cute nurses(male)

I want to try high RP servers like VORE but I'm finding it hard to get out of the light RP mindset.
How do I solve this?

Here's more
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5342
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5376
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5450
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5505
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5640
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5690
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5691
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5804
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/5954
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/6263
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/6722
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/6820

I believe the only one we had has quit playing a long time ago
The best you get will be the occasional person playing male nurse ironically, being either fat or with a beard

at least that borer killing faggot got rekt

???? Here's a guy who did a lot.
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/490
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/600
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/607
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/640
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/753
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/769
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/770
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/777
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/893
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/1009
Is eswordcat the greatest and ONLY optimizer of Veeky Forumsstation??? He must be!

Eswordthecat quit when our codebase was laggy as fuck and on the verge of dying at the end of 2014. If he was the best example that makes him awful.

Literally just search "optimize" on the git in closed PRs. There's a lot more people than just cluster over many years. Why do you suck clusters dick so hard?

ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&p=20080
HOLY H*CK

Because I directly remember when he made these optimizations and how you could NOTICEABLY see a difference after them.

not even 25%

Yeah look through exactly those, notice how many of them are actually optimizations instead of just containing the word optimize.

The only person who did any were PJB, and he was doing it on the lighting engine he added to the game which was laggy as fuck and got reverted for being laggy as fuck.

>and got reverted for being laggy as fuck
What are you talking about? We still have Goonlights.

How new are you? When baylights was added it was so laggy and caused the server to be so laggy pomf reverted it for months until PJB and cluster fixed it, only then did he let it be readded.

>Players who grief, greytide excessively, or just start being plain shit will be perma banned on the spot
>Rin still around

Truly causes one to ponder

You know that searches all comments in the PR too right? So if someone comments 'this is laggy optimize this', it gets counted as well.

I did. Like 4 or 5 of the PRs out of the many pages are not direct bugfixes related to optimization.

Look through it. There are hardly any PRs in that search that aren't directly related to bugfixes/performance.

Over 80% of them are not optimizations at all, and just contain someone saying the word optimize or optimized in the comments.

ERP allowed when

You have to be kidding, 50% of them dont even have the word optimize in the pull request title or opening comment

any tips to creating a waifu

fucking please don't?

1) Some sort of snowflake hairstyle
2) Shill yourself both in IC and OOC
3) Shill yourself in the thread constantly

blonde hair tends to do pretty well.

How come Morphs are so rarely done?

Make her a huge slut like angelite, thats the true path to victory

pastebin.com/GqX8qf26
Reminder that they never even got banned

Literally the admin's favorite

youtube.com/watch?v=sEKB7pi1mbc

that seems like an honest mistake tbqh

Is there a map of Bagelstation somewhere?

I haven't played in a few years and i'd like to check it out.

>Maint Station

>No proper corridors, only dimly lit maintenance tunnels
>The only bar is a ghetto bar
>Some of the less essential departments like Library and Chapel are in disrepair and the lights are mostly dead
>Some departments had to be hastily added on to the station, RnD is in a shuttle welded onto the side of the station, Botany is in a big maintenance hole which was expanded from what used to be a supply closet, etc
>escape pods are erratically placed and a bunch of them are heavily modified to serve another purpose such as toilets, but still launch
>the escape shuttles arrival smashes off a chunk of some extraneous maintenance

Once I injected a bunch of gold slime cores with plasma 20 seconds before the shuttle docked at CentComm. They didn't even kill anyone, yet I copped an hour ban plus a 1440 minute job ban.

>only tagged bug fixes are by the only collab left alive
>still following the rule of 'don't merge your own shit'

relatively new player; going to try flipping traitor and shit on.
Any good tidbits for a new antag?

DO NOT USE BOMBS OR PLASMA FLOOD

bomb or plasma flood

WHEN YOU MAP IT!

Don't act suspiciously.
Use black gloves to minimize prints.
Space/incinerate all evidence and tator shit you no longer need.
Have zero remorse and be on permanent guard. Everyone will be out to get you once they figure out the round type.
Avoid confrontations if possible, especially with Security, Assistants, and most of all, Cyborgs.
Do not underestimate sec armor. If people wear armor or helmet, target the limbs instead.
The AI will fuck you up at the first mistake you make.

>relatively new player
Maybe learn engineering and game mechanics to an advanced level before you attempt it.
Or get ready to be shit on by sec, it's your call.

Anything better than finding screenshots you forgot you took? Post some memories.

I lost ally my old screenshots, the oldest one is 2 years old only.

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>I clicked on it