Fox Body Mustang

320 isnt impressive for a 4.9L engine

you need over $1000 just in heads to get it somewhere

With nitrous maybe.

320hp is pretty fucking good out of a 3000lb car that cost $2k + $1k in engine parts but you can still bitch about how front heavy they admittedly totally are.

A $500 wet nitrous kit will take it to 400hp for dynos, drags and stoplights. It'll probably pop the head gasket sooner or later but then you have a reason to build it better when you fix it

>It'll probably pop the head gasket sooner or later but then you have a reason to build it better when you fix it

How about that splitting the block?

There supposed to do that

yeah too bad the only V8 Foxbody for 2k is a ratty automatic convertible that needs work

320hp isnt good for shit
its a godamn 4.9L engine

i cant believe people call it ugly
that can be called anything but not ugly

Foxbodies are one of the ugliest cars out there and easily the ugliest Mustang

Ehhhhhhh yeah, that can happen around 400hp but if you're slapping a 150# wet shot on a stock 302 you probably feel lucky

That's why the blocks are so cheap too! It just sucks to have to replace EVERYTHING

There's nothing whatsoever accurate about your post. With a little shopping you can find world class t5 5.0s for $2k or $2.5k that probably already are somewhat built. "Ratty" is subjective. Additionally, you know damn well HP per liter is a bullshit metric when what matters is overall weight and lots of foxes are 3000 pounds. Higher displacement engines get more torque at lower RPMs so they have the additional benefit of longer functional lifespans.

Taste is subjective but they are quintessentially 80s looking cars.

>NEWFAGAY
nice

it does matter

its a good measure of efficiency

only people who dont like hp/l are people who like shitty engines

and cool beans shitty 5 speed convertible Foxbodies

No one will know you're driving a classic mustang which is literally the only point of buying a classic mustang.

this
get a turd gen OP it looks better will handle better and the 350 is better than the 302

Except you can't get the 350 in manual and f-bodies are heavier and harder to work on than foxes

>foxes are inefficient and ugly
Goddamn you are such a virgin - and all body styles run about the same price

yup Fbodies are even cheaper

tho really if you only want to go fast and dont care about having a good car the best option is to buy a Foxbody shell and put a LS in it

Ford engines are garbage

dang

my boy got salty over facts and bringing out them high school tier insults

>cares about manual

high school confirmed

and no convertibles are a couple thousand cheaper than hatch which is a few thousand cheaper than the notch

>performance car
>autotragic

Boomer confirmed

a stock turd gen will also shit on any stock foxbody literally anywhere you take it, track, drag anywhere, except maybe your highschool parking lot

dang gotta love them top tier drag cars running stick shift

manual is slower than automatic

>convertibles are a couple thousand cheaper than hatch which is a few thousand cheaper than the notch
>mfw
You can literally buy a serviceable manual 5.0 in any body style 5.0 for under $3000 all day every day. You may have to travel further than your bus pass will take you but I doubt there's anywhere in the US that a day trip won't get you to one

lol

>if u travel 500+ miles you can hypothetically find one !!!

the fuck lmao

and nah all youre getting is a convertible or a complete ragged out shitter

Where are you finding these 30 year old cars that are still stock? Today, in 2017 when you look at the same priced foxes and f-bodies they both have lists of parts on the ads. Foxes have performance parts, f-bodies have parts that have had to been replaced because they failed.

>implying your shitbox 150hp V8 is fast enough that you need an automatic

Post literally any location in the continental US that doesn't have a hard top 5.0 for sale for $3000 or less within 250 miles. I dare you.

damage control/not an argument

manual is for retarded kids who think they are cool for clinging to old inferior tech

I bet you count wrecked cars and non running projects dont you lmao

funny how the local track is almost nothing but Foxbodies and you still cant find one for that cheap

couldnt find a single one in North Carolina

for Foxbody prices I could get a 4th gen Fbody anyway

Foxbody only good as a shell that you LS swap

I mean for real

Z28 for $3000

yeah but the engine bay on those is a bitch, especially compared to the turd gen

wew boys found a fucking piece of shit for $3000

I do agree that moden automatics are better than manuals, but you can't in your right mind say that those eighties three speed autotragics are better or faster than manuals. So stop clinging to old inferior tech.

but its better than a turd gen

Id still rather have an old turd gen Trans Am tho

theres these things called upgrades you can do to an auto

Whatcha want to know about them specifically?

I know pretty much everything that there is to know about the fox platform

>theres these things called upgrades you can do to an auto

Oh like make it as responsive and smart as modern autos and increase the amount of gears? What other real upgrades there are than making the box stronger and make it downshift when you put even 10% more throttle?

>mfw over 1000 foxbody pics between this computer and old laptop

wew, why am I like this

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have you never heard of a shift kit or anything of the like

ffs there are 5 second cars that run aTH400

>couldnt find a single one in North Carolina
Then you are apparently retarded

charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/1988-mustang-gt/6279337337.html
charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/84-mustang/6274718837.html (auto since you love it so much)
hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-gt-mustang-5-speed/6300551987.html
greensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/1989-mustang/6301838110.html
greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/1989-mustang-50-lx-lower-price/6303153809.html

>all but 2 are complete piles of shit most dont even run properly

yeah thanks for proving my point and spending 30 minutes to find garbage

So then you admit that not just one, but two meet your mysterious subjective criteria. At least now you know you're retarded

hardly

one is an automatic and the other is a ricer

can still get better Fbodies for less

so yeah once again thanks

You can get a nicer f-body that's not automatic?

superior

at least its not a third gen f body

conquest>mustang

automatic 4th gen LT1s are faster than manual Foxbodies and its a shit ton easier to find them not beat to shit

but ayy some of what you posted arent in good shape either

charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/1997-camaro-z28-6-speed/6264402662.html
winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/d/95-formula-firebird-need-gone/6281542906.html
greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/91-camaro-rs/6262642112.html
fayetteville.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-firebird/6280497303.html
richmond.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-chevy-camaro-rs-top/6303259895.html

too bad most of them have been junked and nobody looking into Mustangs and Camaros would consider one

>moving the goal posts
Stock? No shit because they're 4th gens. Do you want to compare apples to apples or do you want to race an SVT SN95?

booty hurt Foxfag detected

havent moved the goalposts at all

point is I can get a better car for Foxbody money

and yes bring up your Mustang that that costs $6-$20k depending on year

LS1 will kill it dollar for dollar

a sohc 4.6 mustang will shit on your pushcuck ls

I like the modular more than the LS and I like 4th gen Mustangs more than 4th gen Fbodies

but without a large amount of mods it cant do shit

I don't think op is trying to spend even $6,000 but if you think a $6,000 LS1 (bare minimum LS1 money) is going to drag a $1,000 blown 302 that's had $5,000 put into it you're beyond retarded.

lol i'm a big ls fanboy, but I have to say I prefer the iron block variations

>talking about SVT SN95
>brings up modified 302s

uhh wat

and I found a Z28 for $5600, WS6 for $5500, Z28 for $5500, Z28 for $4500, all 6 speed

those arent really LS tho

they good for cheap boosted power tho

yeah, I know there's no real concrete series name for them, and they use the same architecture with interchangable parts so they usually get lumped in

arent they just Vortecs

This is a fox body thread but fine, I concede that at the specific ~$6000 price point, stock for stock with exclusively SN95s vs 4th gen f bodies, the f bodies are probably faster. I bet you feel like you've won an argument now please fuck off.

you can get a better Fbody at nearly every price point since Foxbodies are overpriced

yeah but it's still a sloppy term because not all vortecs are ls based v8s, hell they even made inline 6s.anyway this is a foxbody thread and i'm rambling about gm so i'll post a foxbody

They certainly are appreciating in value much more markedly despite being so "ugly". I wonder why.

because people see someone slap a turbo vortec in one, run 7s and everyone thinks every foxbody is a racecar

gee probably because the newest ones are 24 years old and people who grew up with them want the hard to find originals?

is this a factory emblem?

no

no foxbody ever came with that (excluding the 1995 Cobra R)

holy shit they should have tho

is that indicative of a 351 cleveland swap?

well i didnt say fox, i kind of wanted to know if FORD made that emblem

windsor

well this is a Foxbody thread so it can be assumed

no they didnt

back when they had hipo 351s it was this

>getting anything other than the svo
>not just buying a thunderbird turbo coupe instead

yeah don't know why I said cleveland

would a dohc 4.6 be a better swap for a foxbody than an ls?

2.3 lima is the only swap to do
youtube.com/watch?v=Uf1ShwOousI

oh baby

not many people take the time to build the 2.3 right

5.0 Coyote swaps are godly, but also the 5.4l DOHC out of a Lincoln navigator is pretty amazing as well. Though the easiest swap for a fox is definitely a 351windsor or cleveland.

sorry would rather have a dohc v8

because they are scared because muh displacement and it being sohc, then they get their ass handed to them by it

the Lima was made by god himself

hmm

you can get one for a lot less than a LS (hell you can get a 5.4 DOHC for less than a LS)

doesnt take much to make good power with them either

probably

well its not the best FORD 4 banger, that would be the YB, much better head

how much massaging would it take to get one of those magnificent beasts into a classic ford, not a mustang but like a torino or galaxy?

it would be hard, the modular is bigger than a 460
the LS fits like a glove

yes but an ls in a ford in blasphemy, It can't be so large that it's bigger than one of the torino's engine bays

Galaxies are big

would be no problem

wouldnt be that hard since it can fit in a damn foxbody

its really all in the heads. sadly.
in a torino? why not build an actual 460? it would be cheaper

a DOHC Modular is over 100 lbs lighter and makes more power

yeah it's alot newer and in terms of power dohc is better than pushrods

yup

Ford knew that even back in the 60s

wait
makes more power than a built 460?
dude no. just no.

youtube.com/watch?v=4pbGyk3Sa7I

then technology happened and we have better heads now.
all old heads are scrap iron. even the tunnel port shit.

so a built 460 runs the same as a stock DOHC 4.6 with headers and intake

youtube.com/watch?v=kVp3s_1daEc&t=34s

talk about embarrassing for the 460

you know what disappoints me most about the malaise era, speaking of dohc, most of the big 3 had plans in the works for dohc v8s based on the architecture of their existing big blocks before emissions laws took over and they were scrapped, I honestly think we would've had a 1000hp production car by 1980 if they had been allowed to continually develop the way they had

yeah but shit wouldve been too expensive for most people

this supposedly made 700hp @ 8400 rpm from a 32 valve DOHC

my favorite of those crazy shit engines