>ED info: pastebin.com/zEufftYe Be aware, Thargs are currently grabbing ships out of witchspace and giving out complementary rectal probings, it is advised you shoot the fuck out of them whenever possible, or just go with it if that's your thing, I ain't tellin you how to live. Apparently the Ayylmaos are rumbling again, inquire within if this means goddamned thing or if its just Braben trying to scare up some more money.
It's a freighter my dude, If it was a scout ships I'd feel ya, but its not. I'd rather make it difficult to cockpit shot me and steal my shit.
Tyler Collins
Just add "space game general" next time, nobody will bitch and we will get players who aren't only here for ED/SC
Jace Ramirez
CIG makes scout and combat ships with ass views as well.
Juan Morales
Just make your own space general and leave this thread then.
Lucas Jenkins
fuck off and no.
Thomas Foster
We do not want players who are here for games other than ED and SC. Get that through your skull. This thread is about SC things and E:D things and if you want to talk about things that are not SC or E:D or related to SC and E:D directly, go to another thread or make your own. This is not space games general. The goal of a general is not to attract attention or move the thread or generate traffic, it is to discuss a particular game or in our case, pair of games. It is not to entertain you or to provide you with a platform to shill whatever other game you want to talk about. If you want a "space games general" make it, it will probably die because of lack of interest. There are only two reasons a general does not exist, either no one on Veeky Forums is interested in that game, or those interested are too lazy to make their own threads. If you want to talk about a thing, make a general for it, do not use /scg/ or /edg in your title, those tags belong to this thread and using them to push a thread that is not Star Citizen/Elite Dangerous General is an attempt to hijack and existing thread and shits up the catalogue. Maybe people will show up, maybe they will not.
Nathan Nelson
Fuck off
Hudson Long
Stop samefagging. A little bit of other space game discussion never hurt anyone. As long as it isn't EVE. That trash goes straight into compost pile.
In fact, having some action packed single player game while we desperately wait for new content in either of dad sims is pretty good, it could liven up the thread. Wish there were people badass enough to have played old Elite and Wing Commander series.
Zachary Butler
>"People who don't agree with me must be samefagging"
Either commit suicide or fuck off and make your own general.
Angel Johnson
Then make a competing general you double nigger. If it survives, more power to you. If it doesn't, move on. Don't try to force your ideas on this general.
Owen Perry
>We do not want players who are here for games other than ED and SC. >We do not want players who are here for games other than >We Purely arbitrary limit made by elitist and cultist and protected by pure inertia. We all know SC will need its own thread, it's too ambitious not to. We will be lucky if it start with 3.0. But /edg/ however will never support their own threads alone and SC won't be a game for years.
Until then we could at least attract more than SC and ED autist. Right now DUAL Universe is more of a game than both are youtube.com/watch?v=GVJyfKNeOao
We should be telling them they can discuss its development here as well
Cooper Thompson
How about you stop posting instead? Take your salt mines back to where they belong.
Learning about new space games instead of sitting in your echo chamber is better, there is reddit if you prefer the latter. At least most ED posts are practical, and discuss ship loadouts and get rich quick schemes.
Cooper Jackson
isnt the khartu supposed to have something lke this?
Blake Gutierrez
> every thread ending @750 posts for like a full year now
Nah we're good, go make a different thread or head on over to /v/
Angel Turner
I'm not samefagging, you little autist. This is the first time I've bothered to check this general in months, precisely because of people like you.
Christian Williams
DU is also just another ark/minecraft meme game with very little to do with this genre
Im sure its a fine game but it's not trying to fill the space that SC or ED are, its gunning for the casual survival basebuilding crowd and nothing else. Only similarity is that spaceships and space travel are part of it.
Levi Garcia
Your engrish is improving but still not passable.
Daniel Wright
Sorry, you got caught blast user, I didn't mean to accuse you of being a subhuman in
Noah Wood
Back on topic, I've been editing screenshots while I wait for my graphics card RMA to go through so that I can play again. What do you think?
Oliver King
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Joseph Ross
o7
Grayson Williams
Stop talking to yourself.
Andrew Campbell
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Elijah Turner
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Hunter Taylor
Breddy gud.
Elijah Reyes
The only recognizable autist is you here, that's like the third engrish nazi post I see
>ark/minecraft I was thinking the same until I saw the physics of their custom ships actually dealt with center of gravity and center of thrust. Unlike either Ark, Minecraft or almost every space "sim" until Space Engineer, SC and maybe ED.
It will be a bitch to keep player from finding a gamebreaking design but you have to applaud the possibilities. Minecraft isn't a bad game despite its nonexistent physics. If someone manage to add physics and keep it easy to use would be worldbreaking
Jace Thomas
Do you have to pay to have those?
Justin Nelson
yes unfortunately, scant few cosmetics have been given out very freely. i can only name the chrome christmas eagle off the top of my head.
Parker Ramirez
Based off of what they told us about Item 2.0 so far, who would win in a fight given equal skill from all players?
Fully crewed Constellation or 4 Sabres?
Connie gets the best gear, Sabres are all stock.
Jonathan Taylor
turrets are worthless at this time and there's no defined way on how they'll address that so i'd say the sabres would dismember a constellation.
Jackson Hughes
I would be disappointed if you could tell like that. You need to consider SKILLS and the TYPE of equipment, not just the QUALITY.
4 sabres is enough to have them occasionally retreat and recharge their shield, once the Constellation (military) shield is down a few torpedo could cripple it until it can't defend itself making it a massacre OR The Stella could focus enough firepower on Sabres with shitty pilot and kill them one by one faster than they can get through the shield. The sabre pilot could fail to drop their missiles at the right time and waste their precious missiles, while the Stella could abuse its vast load of "stock" missiles rather than conserve ammo. Also, maybe the Stella or Sabre gun are of a type that is severely limited against the current equipment of the opponent.
I don't want to be able to tell who will win But I want to hear about a Stella pilot managing to flee against 4 sabres, or a Sabres squadron saying they fled after loosing a Sabre or because it took too long to finish the Constellation.
Myself I would shit myself in the Stella and feel smug and superior aboard one of the Sabre
Josiah Cooper
>exposed cargo
It's like you want it to be blown up during engagement even if you manage to escape.
Kevin Walker
>don't know about shield If a shitty pirates attack can break the shield of a capital-sized transport that would be jarring
Pirate will want the ship intact to haul the cargo or ransom the ship Hostile will want to destroy the ship anyway, not just the cargo And allies who want this cargo will make sure to arrive before the shield is breached, or use more Starfarer more durable
Joseph Walker
>thats a capital ship Either capital ships are really small in SC or the scale is really off.
Colton Diaz
Pretty sure that's using the old model for several ship, like the Idris, but the Idris got THICK not really longer
See "Big gun of the UEE" video for that
Jaxson Walker
Scale can be confusing, me I just wonder if the central shaft of the HULL series can be crossed on foot, I remember hearing that it was planned
Ethan Long
I was coming from a place of if it is reasonable for a Connie to overcome those odds. The Sabres should wipe the Connie without much trouble, but it was described that multicrew would be able to push the ship beyond what it should be capable of.
Let's narrow the scope. Given an expert crew with top end equipment, how many stock amateur Sabres do you think a Connie could withstand?
Kevin Lee
>but it was described that multicrew would be able to push the ship beyond what it should be capable of.
Yes, they've been pushing that horseshit for years now. It won't happen.
Henry Harris
>It won't happen. Not trying to bait here. Why do you think this? inb4 not calling you a goon, just curious I reserve the right to call you a dad later.
Christopher Jenkins
They've claimed previously that a Constellation should be able to take on 3 Hornets, so thats a better metric than vs 4 Sabres.
What would be required for the Constellation to win that engagement? Enough shield and armor strength to tank weapons that instagib most single seaters, and enough DPS on potentially a single turret to contest a Hornet, because aiming its front guns isn't something you're going to be doing. Its ridiculous.
Benjamin Hill
>What would be required for the Constellation to win that engagement? Fair enough. Narrow it some more.
Let's say winning for the Connie means that it disables or destroys the opposing ships to parity. In other words, a draw where both sides kill each other goes to the Connie because the attacking force failed. Losing means engines are disabled or escape is no longer possible.
What does it take to overpower and capture an "alpha" Connie, intact? The conceits are, turrets work like they should and there is some boarding mechanic for the Sabres(iow, a path to win once the Connie is disabled.)
Justin Williams
Imagine a Farming simularor. Now give everyone guns, and ability to kill other "Farmers" in a multiplayer mode. Sounds idiotic?
Now take a sandbox game, about living in space. But give everyone unlimited acces to all kinds of weapons, and combat ships.
Not sure about you, but for me it sounds just as idiotic.
Henry Turner
>Imagine a Farming simularor. >Sounds idiotic? >for me it sounds just as idiotic
Ian Jones
Capture is not the same as "winning." If I'm in a single seater along with my buddies in single seaters, especially with no cargo, that ship isn't getting boarded. Its getting gibbed.
Both sides killing each other is a draw by very definition.
Point is that if you want a Connie to beat and kill multiple single seaters, its got to both be able to survive all the weapons of said single seaters (which aren't going to miss) and do enough DPS in a single turret arc to kill that single seater.
Ryan Bennett
>Capture is not the same as "winning." If I'm in a single seater along with my buddies in single seaters, especially with no cargo, that ship isn't getting boarded. Its getting gibbed. What other reason would you have to team up against a Connie other than it is running cargo that other people can't take solo? I don't think people are looking for Connies to be gunships, they would obviously have real cargo or exploration data worth taking to even mess with them.
Blake Cooper
Bounties, components from its twisted debris..
Better question is why you're planning on destroying a ship's engines to board it then trying to make off with its cargo in the same ship. You might notice a problem with that plan.
Mason Cook
> They've claimed previously that a Constellation should be able to take on 3 Hornets, so thats a better metric than vs 4 Sabres. >What would be required for the Constellation to win that engagement? Enough shield and armor strength to tank weapons that instagib most single seaters, and enough DPS on potentially a single turret to contest a Hornet, because aiming its front guns isn't something you're going to be doing. Its ridiculous.
Don't be so dismissive. Your argument is based on fighter staying capable of instagib some single seater. But we have no idea how shield/armor/power will scale, it don't have to be linear and they said they would increase the fire-rate of turrets if necessary. Plus the Hornet is an old fighter is an old ship, you are not supposed to take down modern and stella-sized ship with it.
The boarding mechanic is a complete mystery, but they never said you will board a ship using smaller one, or that all ship of a same size are as easy to board. Boarding a HULL-D might be easy, but not a Starfarer.
Ryder Clark
once you have the ship, defending it until you can repair it or transfer the cargo to another ship is just a matter of planning. It was kind of inferred in the path to win, but having support outside the attacking element is important. Taking the ship in one piece would always be the priority. Blowing it up for scraps is just a waste if you don't have to, and bounties don't require you to blow up the ship.
Ryan Perry
I never said that it had to be linear. Merely that the power increase from where it is now to where it would have to be for that to be feasible is insane.
3 Hornets attacking a Connie is ~4200dps. For reference, the Connie's current shield has 6000hp. These shots are not going to miss.
It makes the game less of a "I'm in a better ship so I have a pretty good edge, but its possible you could win" and more of a "fuck you I'm immortal"
Sebastian Thompson
If you can repair a ship engine up to working condition, but it take too long for your prey to flee (especially since they have to prepare for your boarding) There is no flaw with that plan
>drop prey shield down >attack its engine until it have no more power >prey is now defenseless >board faster than they can repair the engine >prey ship is yours >repair the engines using their own components, just enough to jump for real repair
But looking at how CIG is going, you'll probably never drop a ship shield this size without having a bomber and torpedo. CIG never promised to make it easy as shit to board, especially if selling a ship bring a lot of money
Zachary Hill
>But looking at how CIG is going, you'll probably never drop a ship shield this size without having a bomber and torpedo.
muh connie space superiority! captial ship level shielding!
John Murphy
What the fuck did they do to the RSI forums?? I go back on for the first time in a year and its some fucking reddit hybrid cancer with less categories.
There were a fuck ton of forums that just don't exist anymore? Why did they do this?
Cameron Powell
A Space engineers clone that actually has fun flight mechanics could be damn nice.
Cameron Howard
Didn't meant to say your error was linearity (only), it's that there's more than just "hp" and "dps" to consider.
Listening to your ridiculous assumption a connie would never be able to kill a Hornet (because "too fast" I bet?) but if the Hornet constantly have to move or die from a connies superior firepower, he have to stop shooting, add the (boosted) turrets and if all 3 hornets need to wing it the connie can have enough time to recharge its shield
Now you are being stupid. You are an idiot if you believe your are entitled to destroy connies sized ship with a fighter meant to destroy fighter and bombers. Learn basic game design
Dominic Sullivan
Are the Sabres loaded out specifically for fighting a large ship? Because seems like if they took down the Connie's shield then all launched S4 missiles they'd kill it even if turrets and multicrew were working.
Justin Wood
Oh, you're the illiterate BR
(you)
Liam James
Assuming they dont just give up on the simulation pretense and add magic bullshit buffs to ships just for having more people in it.
Logan Taylor
Like I said, just blowing up the ship is a waste if you don't have to. Whatever loadout, the attackers should have the discretion to not spam missiles one the target shields are down.
Caleb Anderson
hello toasterposter here Considering upgrading my graphics card to a gtx 1060. Could I run SC on lower settings with a gtx 1060 and an fx-6300?
William Bennett
cant speak for the CPU, but you can run SC on a 750 on medium, so I assume a 1060 would be ok too.
Aaron Williams
>750 on medium really? I'm running a 660 ti, which I think is a better card. I might be cpu bottlenecked on the game, and my am3+ chipset is a dead end. damn
Multi cannons will have one corrosive and the other incendiary. The burst lasers will both be thermal shock and the beam will be thermal vent. I used bi wave because I wanted the regen rate when broken. I want to be able to take on any ship I run into in the python. I haven't played in a while but I remember that I stopped playing when they chaged how heat works so SCB tank wasn't easily done anymore, so now that I've started playing again I have no idea how to actually use the SCB. I put on some heat sinks but I don't know if it'll be enough so any suggestions would be great.
Aaron Collins
Launch heatsink. Activate SCB. Repeat. SCB and shield stacking is as strong as ever.
Jason Bennett
Ok thanks, what do you think about the rest of the loadout?
John Martinez
>50% CPU utilization >65% GPU utilization >60-80% RAM utilization >Max of 30 FPS in SM why
Alexander Lee
Hardware is not currently the main bottleneck
Noah Wright
go fuck yourself cultist
John Morales
Hey guys, it's Montoya. Come join me in TEST!
Charles Powell
What is TEST squadron anyways? I hear about it a lot, but I don't actually know what they stand for or why they're a meme. Are they the guys that are Aurora only or something?
Jacob Green
No, the Aurora thing is just saying that we are open to anyone. You don't have to own any expensive ships to join; you can be part if TEST if you only own an Aurora.
Chase Adams
Well I never knew there was a group into child porn and auroras... I dont know what to say.. just wow...
Aaron Baker
I'm not going to brag but so far we have around 10GB on the TEST server. Actually it was Shiner's idea. A lot of people don't understand why he is a mod but it's because he's in charge of managing the TEST porn. It's invite only and the easiest way to not be allowed in is to ask about it.
If you are interested ask to speak to Shiner alone in the staff room when the Discord server is a little empty and if you've been a member for a while he'll give you access to the private boards on the forums.
Landon Butler
the aurora was my favorite starter ship thanks for ruining it
Caleb Bell
Shiner was that the trannie on Citizen of the Stars?
I used to be apart of Test; I was rather shocked when Shiner became part of the Citizen of the Stars; he would talk about molesting boys, and then when the whole looking like a girl thing happened and seeing him on CotS I was rather sad to see a child molester on there and CIG promoting it.
Connor Brooks
We don't allow child abuse. In all the pictures and videos we have on the private forums all the kids wanted it and were okay with it. None of the kids were harmed.
William Young
How do we know its not child abuse.Post proof so we can judge by ourselves.
Asher Martinez
I am not a sick fuck; goto Test Squadron if you want Cheese Pizza, ask Shiner from TEST; he is the pedophile.
Gavin Thomas
Dude is sick, just saying. There is a screw loose on the he/she. Its why I left; got tired of his cheese pizza talks. Then CIG promoting him on CotS is just sick. There is a reason why that video is and was being down voted.
David Reed
What is a 'mounting plate' in regards to joysticks?
Is it the bottom part?
Jonathan Carter
yes
Asher Flores
Thanks.
Any one have any Vkb sim joysticks, read they are really good.
Christopher Barnes
Jesus fuck. I'm no moralfag since I enjoy 2D loli stuff but I can't believe society allows this.
Luis Young
lemme guess KWA ?
Parker Parker
Who? I usually only lurk this thread for news about SC.
Isaiah Lee
I looked up what it was, don't lump me in with those "ironic weaboos" /v/ermin.
