/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

>I cant understand how longtime smt fan can stomach playing this thing.
>longtime smt fan
>has only played Nocturne and SJ

You all picked best girl instead of boring gay butler, right, guys?

Right?

The only tolerable old school SMT

good shit

It's the game that made me want to get into SMT but I still haven't played it.

>Nocturne and SJ
underperform smt game, nearly kill the series

who gives a fuck

Have a nice WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

me

You played IVA but not IV?

Any way to get rid of crackling/static-y sounds in the audio?
All the options I've tried other than the default has made it worse.

Please respond.

just forgot to list it
ive played everything except what i wrote, not just sj and 3

Yeah but it's real weird to say that you can't understand how a longtime fan could stomach IV when you haven't even played the SNES games

Cool, but nobody else cares. Why don't you contribute something meaningful, Mr. ESL?

why

How the fuck do i beat harihara? This bitch keeps on growing balls and my party isn't strong enough to kill one in one hit

IV takes after the first two games more than it does the games you've played in some ways
What's your problem with IV though

What a strange alignment chart, why law hero is neutral?

what the fuck is this page

why should we care about the character's hair

I think that's a hair chart user.

What level are you at?
AoE skills are good. Having at least two characters with both Amp and Boost of two different elements also helps.

low 50s for everyone

youtube.com/watch?v=8ek6JhhCT8I
i always knew both songs sounded alike

it fucking kicks ass though

Low to mid 50s is very doable. What's your setup?

>DeSu 2 OP pic
Shit OP. Shit thread. I hope this one dies as soon as possible.

I haven't used hunt skills much except for heat but its been all physical skills and void ice
Serph has some buffs and agi/bufu dyne
Heat has charge, some buffs, and most of the physical mantras, only went to agilao on him
Argilla just has healing since the revive and healing mantras take forever, only went to terazi
Gale has buffs, dark/light, zan/ziodyne (i don't think ma)
Cielo has debuffs, ailment stuff, and some healing, with some ziostuff

In my experience don't bother with buffs or debuffs. It's usually enough to have Argilla and Serph cast Ma-spells and Argilla heal from time to time. 3rd Party member is usually irrelevant and mostly passes in my experience.
I don't really know what else to say I never had trouble with Harihara.

Just about everything sucks, so i don't know where to start.. the most jarring thing for me is the artwork, as much as it breaks my heart to not see kaneko in it, i could have suspended my dissapointment with something that didnt look terrible. The dungeon crawling aspect of the game is shot to hell also basically, the areas all look like what you see in a third rate psp rpg where they were starting to do dungeons in 3d and had to make all the places small because of that (not sure if you know what i mean) but basically the areas are all small, feel like mini bites that you go through in 3 minutes while skirting enemies and they suck. The entire game also feels like a big fetch quest. From the gay quests, and the dumb clothing rack/dlc aspect of the game, to the relic thing the whole games has this feel of a bad psp jrpg to it. I also found it weird that literally all demons ive seen so far are just reskins with like 3 statline types that are identical. ( i dont mean like Mag based vs phys based, they literally have the exact same distributions except scaled up according to level) also dont know why the max stats are so huge this time. The story and writing and characters are awful, and by far the worst out of any smt and are completely uninteresting. I dont know who they had working on this but i wouldn't be surprised if you told me the whole game was outsourced. It feels nothing like an smt game aside from the combat system, which i guess was accpetable even though its essentially just hard by virtue of smirk until about minotaur, and then gets too easy. Would have been pretty hard to screw it up anyway.

I was doing combo null psych+ charge + psych aoe. It destroys all stones except psych one, so you just kill it with spells. Rest is easy

>the most jarring thing for me is the artwork, as much as it breaks my heart to not see kaneko in it, i could have suspended my dissapointment with something that didnt look terrible.
It's not like there are so many new demons that you're spending the whole time looking at guest art. The vast majority of demons in game are drawn by Kaneko and the characters look fine.
>dungeons
Yeah they aren't very good, they could have just gone back to first person dungeons like SJ instead of trying 3D dungeons like Nocturne and ending up with something worse than Persona.
>fetch quests, armor, dlc
That's pretty much all optional content. Unless you're Neutral, then you have to do most side quests.
>lack of demon differentiation
That is a bit of a problem, but is it actually significantly worse than other modern Megaten games?
>max stats are so huge
I don't really know, but that's not necessarily a problem.
>writing
I liked the setting, but would agree that the characters and such aren't terribly interesting.
>It feels nothing like an SMT game
It pulls A LOT of shit from the first two games, if anything Nocturne is the outlier.

What level should I be for fighting Babel in Devil Survivor? I got through Phase 1 and the Bel boss rush but in Phase 2 the spell it casts when changing weaknesses totally fucks me.

please

nobody knows what you're talking about
post a sample

What's wrong with desu2?

i was able to beat her with bufudyne+charged genocides with argilla on support

thanks

Is there any point in ng+ in dds1 or should i just move on to dds2?

If you have autism you can do ng+ to fight demifiend. Hardest smt fight.

anything else?
also what's the deal with those red/yellow/blue doors?

you have to get the corresponding color of key item (dont remember what it was, like a ring i think) and then you get to open them. I think they were held by bosses/certain fetch quests. Behind them is a bunch of good stuff usually like optional encounters/incense/hunting events. You should check a walkthrough thing.

Is there any reason Nemissa is getting her shit rocked at the airport in Soul Hackers? Both her and MC are level 20ish and I have pretty much the best gear on her. She dies in around 3 hits.

posts a screencap of stats

personacentral.com/e3-2017-badge-insert-design-features-13-sentinels-aegis-rim/

I guess Atlus will not announce Deep Strange Journey localization or even news about SMT HD this year.

EOfag here.
Get used to it.

>Get used to it
DSJ doesn't even have a concrete Japanese release date, and nothing is known about SMT HD yet. Apocalypse wasn't announced for English until a month after it was out in Japan. There's no reason to think either of these games are going to end up like EOV or whatever you're mad about.

>mechs

Sweet.

>high school

Every fucking time.

I bet you Atlus will avoid talking about SMT like the plague and tell people who ask that "Persona 5 just came out".

Of course, they aren't going to talk about a game they haven't confirmed localization for yet.

I'd assume it was seeing as NoE uploaded the trailer with a Pegi rating.

DeSu2 thread, sweet.

It's vanillaware, even if it is overused school setting, they are boung to make some nice with it. Although it is indeed weird that they picked a setting like that, they are more into the fantasy side of fiction in their works

Well it hasn't been confirmed, but since that's the case I imagine that SMTHD will be like Persona 5 and be confirmed relatively early. DSJ, on the other hand, may be more of a wait and see like Apocalypse.

ah. classic siiva

I feel like the more they wait the hard it is to sell people on a 3DS game this late.
Fire Emblem Echos was the first game to really suffer from it and I feel like Pokemon, that Oasis game, and SMTDSJ might also suffer.
Not that the 3DS is bad but more that people are still excited about having an HD handheld finally.

Does luck affect the Casino in Soul Hackers?
Trying the trick from the Pastebin, and I've reset about 15 times, and haven't won once.

high schooler hijacking a mech is not exactly a rare thing

Fumi

>Fire Emblem Echos was the first game to really suffer from it
How? The game sold fine for a remake.

People are still buying 3DS games.

youtube.com/watch?v=8osvyhd1owo
macco wasn't very good at varying his more metal sounding music

but damn if it's not catchy then i don't know what is

From what I've seen it hasn't been selling as well as they hoped, might also be because Fates was a fucking pile of shit too.

Bought echoes day one, it's my favorite Fire Emblem of the ones I've played so far. It's a huge improvement over the original.

So was Persona 3 that last time the series was really seen as a part of SMT and not its own thing?

I think vanilla P4 was also marketed as SMT

I mean in terms of how people view the series.

Persona 3 was less SMT than Persona 5

P5 got pretty SMTish at certain points (especially the end) but yeah mostly P3

P5 is really only SMT post Shido dungeon.

Golden literally had a literal megummy tensay

well it has demons which makes it more smt than 3 or 4

Aren't they just called shadows so kiddos don't get scared?

>so kiddos don't get scared?
Persona 5 has the same CERO rating as SMT, don't kid yourself.

But yes like Persona 3 and 4 the enemies are called Shadows for the most part, only referred to as demons when explaining that they have the form of demons. I just mean that fighting series demons and negotiating makes it more like SMT than 3 and 4 were.

I bought Devil Summoner Overclock today. I have no previous experience with this series. Was this a good one to pick up first? I'm going to start playing it tomorrow, but I still have the option to return it and get something else.

>Persona 5 has the same CERO rating as SMT, don't kid yourself.
they should pull another giten

It's not a bad entry point.

If you like SRPGs it’s a fine starting point. It’s not ‘mainline’ so to speak, but demons are demons u kno?

It's good, pretty much anything is a good entry point as long as it isn't one of the direct sequels. It's pretty different from mainline SMT or Persona, as it's an SRPG, but it's got demons and fusion.

>Anne's tits exposed and getting gangdevoured by demons
Sounds good to me.

don't forget explicit sex scenes

Sounds alright to me. I'll give it a go. Thanks guys.

It has Metatron be your texting buddy so it's already better than most SMT games.

>realize Nintendo's direct is 30 minutes
>unless they rapid show off games its going to be small as fuck
>tfw no SMT at all
I'd even play a quick cash grab SMT port at this point while waiting for SMTSwitch

Any update on that Nocturne unpack/repack tool?

>anything megaten related being announced at an event outside japan

user pls

A SJ localization confirmation would be nice

>yfw SMT gets an western focused title announced at E3 like that MH PS4 rumor

>it's a purseowner set in America

>open world
>action based combat
>art all done by americans
>ubisoft styled towers
>script by the last of us fuckers
>replaces the rest of the franchise because people eat that shit up

Atlus doesn't have the resources to make that kind of game.

PERSONA 1 REMAKE CONFIRMED

Sega owns them though. They could get the resources

Sega