“With the Tokyo Motor Show we will be introducing a new design concept; you can think of it as an evolution of theme of the RX-Vision,” Mazda Vice President for R&D Europe Matsuhiro Tanaka told Auto Express.
Looks like a their going to show an updated design next month.
Rumours are saying mazda is planning on releasing it on 2020 to mark Mazda's 100th anniversary
is it going to look anywhere near as impressive as the first concept?
Chase Brown
I hope it's proportioned a little better.
Anthony Jenkins
We need to stop and appreciate that we're in a renaissance of sports cars. Thank you based Mazda
Oliver Kelly
Come on now, I haven't fapped in 5 days, this isn't fair
Jayden Hughes
This we live in a time where even mid range hot hatches will do 60 in 6 seconds and handle better than a lot of past sports cars, it's ridiculous
Owen Mitchell
Dear mazda, I'm a poorfag. please let the price tag of the Rx-9 be low enough to allow me to buy a bag of rice once a month after my car payment.
Liam Ward
INB4 PEDESTRIAN SAFE FAT
Zachary Gutierrez
fuck yes Mazda showing Toyota the proper way to revive a classic
Easton Thomas
this the front looks like absolute ass
David Gutierrez
Hybrid rotary crossover. I feel it
Ayden Robinson
>rotary It's going to be a turbo 4 cylinder
Easton Reed
>Mazda >hybrid this is the company that has sworn a vow of allegiance to the internal combustion engine until the sun goes dark, I highly doubt Mazda will pull that bullshit
Aiden Powell
>this is the company that has sworn a vow of allegiance to the internal combustion engine until the sun goes dark
>RX >having cylinders What do you think the R stands for? Retard?
Bentley Allen
It stands for Retard, you know, the people who buy them
Daniel Long
It actually stands for rebuild
Jordan Morales
>Mfw it still eats apex seals like mr crummy eats shit on the downhill
Jaxon Davis
>Mazda showing Toyota the proper way to revive a classic
More like Mazda showing Japan the proper way to revive a classic
Of the big four, two are over engineered, pigfat, and outdated, and the other is a reskinned entry level BMW that Toyota could not care less about getting out the door.
Logan Ross
Who gives a shit about design, I want powertrain.
Jordan Russell
Toyota just really does seem to be doing this to shut people up about it, hence why BMW seems to be doing most of it.
Angel Nelson
>a time in the market where the fastest selling group of vehicles are crossovers/suvs and EVs
Henry Sanchez
What are these 4 classics, actually?
I assume you mean the FK8, RX-9, and the up-coming supra but what is the 4th?
Adam Hughes
The highest performing sportscars of 90's Japan, the RX7, GT-R, NSX, and Supra.
Ryder Perry
>BMW seems to be doing most of it.
Someone in the Toyota boardroom really does not like sports cars, which is probably why they have to pay other manufacturers to build sports cars for them, and why they're advertising the Camry as a sports car while pretending the GT86 doesn't exist.
Adrian Kelly
Wheres the 3000GT?
Adam Jenkins
Broken down leaking oil from 8 different places onto some white-trash driveway as usual
Ayden Richardson
Didn't it have the stock highest power output of them all, active aero, adjustable suspension, pretty advanced electronics for that time and a boat load of weight? The other had none of that except the boat load of weight part(except FD).
Ryan Rodriguez
they're going to show the world the true essence of the samurai engine
>we live in a time where even mid range hot hatches are heavy as fuck and there are barely any rwd cars and manuals are dying
wow what a golden age
Parker Murphy
>tfw gonna live the pic related dream
Nathaniel Howard
What transmission are they going to put on it? Does Mazda even make a dual clutch? Let's hope manual is at least an option.
Logan Wood
so rotary engines have fucking shit fuel economy at idle, right? What if it had a CVT and the engine is always pegged at 9k no matter how fast you're going?
Jackson Reyes
Yeah and those are hurting sedan sales. Meanwhile a Camaro with a rental tier V6 engine can keep up on a track with M cars
John Campbell
That picture is heartbreaking...
Evan Rogers
This picture gets me every time
Blake Johnson
I think they want most of the sports stuff to be under lexus, they did that, whatever it's called that came out recently. More of a GT I suppose bus still.
Didn't the GT-R, aside from the active aero, have most of the tech the 3000GT had? Plus it wasn't as notoriously unreliable.
Connor Cooper
Don't get me wrong I still love the GTO. Seeing one makes me feel like a kid again.
Austin Sanchez
Why does Mazda designers 2010+ always fuck up the rear
William Flores
Oh look, another shitty concept from Mazda that will get their RX-7 fanboy micropeens erect, promise it will be produced, only to realize they can't make anything remotely as good as the RX-7 ever again, abandon it for a few years, and then reintroduce another styling focused concept to start it all over again.
Fuck off mazda.
Gavin Phillips
The RX-7 is the automotive Half Life 3
Camden Watson
>2010+ RX-8 rear was ass not the good kind neither
Michael Ramirez
The back of the 16+ Mazda 6 looks pretty good to me.
Nolan Kelly
there will never be a new rotary
emissions regs killed it, its gone. just give up
Michael Diaz
7"
>t. RX-7 fanboy
Zachary Price
it'll be manual with a shit afterthought automatic 'option' like the RX-8 hopefully
Brody Phillips
here you go, i made it better
Samuel Bennett
...
Carter Allen
That liquid piston company came up with a new combustion cycle that made a rotary style engine with higher efficiency and no oil burn. They were good enough to get DARPA money. Not that this is applicable to the automotive world, but it shows there are improvements that can be made for the Dorito motor.
An improved rotary block combined with some front wheel EV system would be more than enough to keep the EPA happy. Better for the emissions figures, better for power, better traction and launch speed. One way or another everything will be heading that way.
Eli Ortiz
no none of that will happen
just give it up
Jace Richardson
cylindeR you big dummy.
Josiah Thomas
the whole front looks so long/wide, they could fit a 26b in there
Lucas Walker
That looks like total dogshit. Even if somehow they get a rotary onto market that can pass emissions and not eat apex seals if you look at it wrong, they are never going to make anything that looks anywhere as nice as the FD.
Lucas Lopez
That one has no choice, it will be a hybrid crossover eventually, so overengineered and pigfat by default.
Jordan Price
This.
Look at the Miata, of all of the cars built over the years it is the only one to stay true to its roots and it even weighs less than previous generations.
I'll believe it when I see it, until then, have some OC
Ryan Edwards
Nigga they have to have a partial zero emissions vehicle (pzev) in their lineup or else they can't sell any of their cars in California. Thank the calicucks for that one
Charles Wright
If ktm can still sell a 2 stroke in 2017 that passes emissions regs then Mazda sure as hell could design a rotary. It's probably not going to be cheap or easy but I'm sure it's possible
Brody Robinson
Theoretically there's no actual reason as to why the wankel rotary design couldn't be efficient as piston engines.
Ultimately it just comes down to whether Mazda can make a breakthrough and implement an advance ignition system.
Joseph Cook
mazda is literally the last car company making improvements to the gas engine and are going to ride it out till the end, once they reach that point their going to start incoporating hybrid tech from toyota
hcci+ small toyate hybrid battery= good performace and range. win win
At least their pushing through toyota and honda are throwing in towel early. subaru doesnt even know what the hell to do lol
Nathan Jackson
I think Mitsubishi should take a risk on making a revival of the Starion (with EVO 10 engine and underpinnings but RWD) and Nissan should bring back the S-chassis.
Zachary Adams
HNNNNNNNG
Xavier Howard
good manual's need too die vary outdated
Gavin White
>emissions regs killed it
... and so we went to war
Angel Ortiz
>Implying they didn't
David James
Worst case scenario they can just Volkswagen it
Aiden Anderson
...
Sebastian Fisher
I like theirs better. This looks too much like a camaro
Adrian Morgan
EVs are still less than 1% of auto sales in the US.
Jayden Morris
Because the batteries and charge times suck.
Leo Johnson
>new Supra >new RX-7 >Muscle cars revived
We living in the golden age boys. You better be living it up and having fun until the government Eclipses our asses and bans ICE's.
Jose Baker
what mazda needs to do is FINALLY go full aluminum with their rotary, like they were developing with their 16x
What mazda actually need to figure out is how to get the engine passed emission standards...
Kevin Baker
lasers and hcci
Matthew Butler
Yea right, rotaries are fucking dead. They've never been able to fix all the issues with it
Oliver Campbell
HCCI doesn't apply to rotary engines.
Landon Roberts
Just because Mazda hasn't been able to fix all of the rotaries problems in the past doesn't mean they aren't fixable at all.
Jason Gutierrez
That looks terrible
William Green
>HCCI doesn't apply to rotary engines. or maybe i was thinking of that thing, skyactiv?
Henry Clark
No you're thinking of HCCI. Skyactiv is just marketing, its what they brand all of their automotive technology that appears in their products from 2011 onwards. Hell they named their family of turbocharged diesel engines skyactiv.
Xavier Turner
Hell, it might even work better in a rotato.
Thomas Ramirez
this best be in jest
Liam Brown
Pics or lying.
Blake Carter
The Bolt is almost ideal, but the seats are hard and charging is slow. The Leaf doesn't have enough range. I think the Model 3 will break the barrier of mass adoption.
Dylan Sullivan
what if they make a rotato/piston hybrid
Jeremiah Sanders
>turn key >rotate into another dimension
Easton Bennett
I thought Mazda make an announcement that the rx9 was cancelled, were they meme-ing?
Ayden Young
>still less torque than an LS
Connor Clark
I think it's more of BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Robert Thomas
They never did. The only source was the "roadandtrack" site; which sensationalized some statements from people at Mazda to make a clickbait "The Rotary car is kill" article.
>You will never have two 8-rotor engines built into your car like the Crazy 8's from Hot Wheels
Jayden Carter
Car has never stopped development, they have had a group of people working on it for quite a while now. Mazda hasnt gone all out yet on it though thats going to happen when their truly ready to start getting it ready for production