>Have over one year of serious street racing experience
>Have upgraded TRD racing engine
>Upgraded suspension and various other modifications
>86 maintained by several experienced mechanics before and after nearly every race
>Taught and mentored by an autistic racing genius
>somehow nearly manages to lose to this kid in a a beat up stock 2 door 86 because he drove his mommy home from work every night.
The whole premise of Initial D is kinda silly, but come on, what was that shit?
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Shigeno is a hack and first stage was just a fluke.
>literally only wins a race because sweaty man puked.
>>somehow nearly manages to lose to this kid in a a beat up stock 2 door 86 because he drove his mommy home from work every night.
It's not about how much experience you have, it's about what you get out of the experiences you have.
You can learn more from having 1 experience than having 10 shit-speriences.
My personal theory is that it's all a dream. When Itsuki fell in the lake in stage 1 after trying to kiss that girl, he actually drowned, but was revived and is now in a coma. Everything after is just him dreaming that his best friend is continuing to succeed at everything.
Unless every source I can find is full of shit, his engine is far from stock. The modifications I am seeing would put the car at around ~180 at the crank. This car is pretty similarly modified and supposedly makes about 200 at the crank.
They said it was owned by his father who did rally, but they never said or showed anything more than that in the show.
I thought in the manga it doesn't explicitly state who wins
Plus this kid is clearly supposed to be way more talented than dagumi. Sorry if that upsets you
All manga writers lose creative freedom after it gets big enough to have an anime these days. You have to understand that the first initial D season was made after "stage 1" in the manga was over. They probably forced shigeno to extend his series way past what he wanted to write, just like literally every other popular manga writer.
It was never explicitly stated that the car had any modifications at all, though we could assume it has at least some basic ones due to his father's use of the car.
However, it's still an objectively inferior car.
It doesn't have an ultra-high performance racing engine. It doesn't have a turbo or supercharger, so it's not producing anywhere close to the power Takumi's is producing.
It doesn't have a carbon fiber hood or any other weight-saving mods like Takumi's car has.
It could have improved suspension of the stock, but with all the work Takumi's father and Project D have put into Takumi's car, this kid's suspension couldn't possibly be any better, and it unlikely to match it.
The whole thing about Initial D was that Takumi was beating other racers in what should have been better cars than his right from the beginning. They took away that handicap and expected it to still be hard for Takumi.
And there's a shitton more that's also wrong. The kid's driving style is fucking nonsense. They said he drove by using the brakes and the gas as little as possible so he wouldn't disturb his mother while she was sleeping in the car while he was driving down. I shouldn't have to tell you how not using the brakes and gas as hard as you can because it would wake someone up would cause you to be slower than someone who would.
Takumi has years of experience driving downhill on Akina as fast as he could. This kid didn't, because he was always limited by having to avoid waking up his mother. What's different between Takumi's tofu delivery and this kid and his mother was that Takumi only had the tofu when going up Akina, when he went downhill, he was returning after delivering the tofu and had nothing holding him back.
His only real advantage was that he knew the course well enough and perfected his racing lines. You could say he could take corners at a higher speed because he would be picking better lines. The limitation to this is that if you can't use that line if there's something obstructing your path.
So here's how the race should have gone:
>Takumi waits until the safest opportunity to pass
>Takumi uses his greater engine power to pass on a straight
>The kid cannot pass Takumi in a corner because Takumi's car obstructs his racing line
>The kid straying from that line would not allow him to pass because he would be giving up his only advantage
>gg no re
thanks for the spoiler you fucking nigger
Allegedly the Devil Z in Wangan Midnight is cursed (spoilers: it just had a bent chassis), but I'm convinced Takumi's AE86 was legitimately cursed. Most of Dagumi's victories only came to be after his opponents had near-fatal accidents. Mishfaiaringu Shisutemu man was the only one who was immune to the curse, and even killed the wretched car the first time.
It would have been better if Shinji drove a Supercharged AW11 at least it would have been more believable that he could bully Takumi in the corners with grip torque.
>will never get a spin-off of mishufairingu shishtem man as a hunter of the occult
>has to frag a $20000 racing engine in order to beat a 15 year old autistic kid
>giving a fuck about spoilers pass stage 3
>Iketani manages to get cucked again, this time by a 15 year old
its impossible that the kid would be driving his dad's rally car because it would be impossible to sleep in it like his mother did
>All manga writers lose creative freedom after it gets big enough to have an anime these days
At this point I'm pretty sure Shigeno originally wanted Takumi to lose that race (the whole symbolism of being beaten by a kid that is a carbon copy of how he was in the beginning), but it were the publishers that went full
>NO, we want /ourboi/ to stay undefeated through the whole thing
Possibly vs. Godhand too
>stay hydrated
The scene/chapter when Takumi tries to copy the one hand steer technique would have made a lot more sense if he had lost that race beforehand
fucking this
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>have years worth of serious street and circuit racing experience where you have won every single race
>have your FC upgraded with the best possible parts and set up with professionals who know what they are doing
>have your FC maintained with autistic level of care before and after every race
>spend all your free time carefully analyzing everything about your opponents and places where you race making Batman level plans and back-up plans to every single possibility of how the race may go
>on top of that you have superhuman reflexes and cool mind that allows you to put all those theories and analyses to action during your races (case of point his race against Rin Hojo)
>still somehow managed to lose to a kid that doesn't know or care about what he is doing who was driving his dad's 30 year old Corolla
The point of Tagumi vs Shinji race is to mirror Takumi vs Ryosuke earlier on, with the exception that Takumi wins here due to wearing the thickest plot armor known to man. Also passing the torch to the next generation is a recurring theme in Japanese storytelling including Initial D.
This is the plot of Metal Gear Solid VI
>don't worry dagumi you did not kill the engine
>we both trashed the car in all these years it just died
>we'll put a new race engine and fix the car
>oh and you're paying for it
>a new generation
Jesus fuck it's not that takumi was 40 years old
Japan's idea of "old" is somewhere around 25.
so besides that race where he blew his engine.
does takumi actually ever end up losing a race?
I only ever watched up to S4 and thought it was getting pretty gay that he hadn't lost yet.
like wtf doesn't the Japanese audience get bored of that shit? have a race drag on for 3 episodes to always just have the same outcome
>tfw you'll never have a mature 28 years old japanese waifu
Also consider that we all watched that show by streaming/downloading every single episode, so we watched it "on demand" multiple episodes per day...just think about the poor fuckers that had to wait days for the new episode full of expectations for the outcome of the race when actually it was all clear since the beginning.
Misfirginusystem guy didn't consider it a race, so technically he never lost one.
He fought some old guy in a s2000, and fucked up his suspension on the last corner, only to win because the old guy had to puke and stopped.
The last race he technically might have lost since he blew the engine before he crossed the finish line, but he still crossed it so it is okay I guess.
Isn't Takumi 19 at most by the end of the series?
Yes he was
yeah I know man like wtf. how can ppl put up with that shit.
same reason why I lost interest in that boxing anime. was fun but literally every fight was3 or 4 episodes where he ends up winning anyways.
don't forget that other retarded win against that yellow type r professional racer where literally a cat or something jumps in front at the last second making him slow down to then let takumi win
I remember that one, that was an asspull, but I don't think it was that egregious. It was cheap, but it could be chalked up to luck which a lot of Takumi's wins are really. The s2000 guy was the worst example since he could've just puked out the window , or in his car and win.
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A better question would be, when has Dagumi won a race that wasn't because of near-fatal circumstances, like the EK9 guy avoiding a rabbit or the Miata guy slamming his spoiler into a sign because he thought there was oncoming traffic?
> the Miata guy slamming his spoiler into a sign because he thought there was oncoming traffic?
wasn't that the mr2 guy or whoever that was bunta's rival in the old days?
Miata guy flipped because he tried to do the gutter trick that dagumi did.
it was the 7th pass iirc
and it was still a bullshit excuse for takumi to "win"
he means the nb miata guy with the gt wing, not the na miata guy from the start of 4th stage
>No one, no matter who they are, can beat him with just pure skill
>Can''t even beat him with a technique or gimmick
>Even if they resort to hitting him from behind, having him race a rain specialist while it's RAINING, leaping in front of him using a slope, having him race a pro racer, using a kei car, aerodynamic bodykits, even sending someone who's basically a carbon copy of him with almost the exact same car
>Even if it seems like he will lose, fate itself will let him win (God Hand having to vomit, The guy in the Type R having to avoid an animal on the road, guy with the NB having his spoiler break off)
>Literally the only person who beat Takumi via skill was his dad
>Who beat him with an old Vapereza he bought like a day before
Final stage should have ended with showing the 86 being repaired with a normal engine. The last scene would be Takumi driving back from tofu delivery in the Impreza. Then Bunta in the stock 86 shows up and ends up spanking Takumi on Akina again, cut to rage your dream.
To be fair, Bunta never needed to pay Takumi for his work, and Takumi eventually got the car for it.
He lost to the WRX on Akina.
>memorized course perfectly
>vs dagumi who wins a cat n mouse without even glancing at the tight dangerous track
No, it isn't.
Godhand didn't lose due to "driver sickness", he lost due to "strategic error".
Godhand's strategy for that race was to draw it out to mess with Takumi. Until that last pass, he was deliberately driving at a reduced speed while taking varying racing lines to make Takumi doubt himself and ruin Takumi's consistency. It was only at the end that he was actually trying to win. What he failed to account for in his strategy was his own capabilities and endurance under those conditions. He could have went for the goal on an earlier pass. He could have chosen to do that from the first pass. Instead, he caused his own defeat by not accounting for the limitations of his endurance.
>Who beat him with an old Vapereza he bought like a day before
I don't think he even bought it yet, I think we was just taking it for a test drive.
>stay hydrated god hand
>but with gatorade or something
See, this is the shit that makes Dagumi win.
>NA Miata flips because he couldn't do the gutter trick
>Nakazato loses because his turbo kicked in and slammed into a guardrail
>Keksuke loses because his turbo shat itself halfway through the race
>Shingo loses because he wanted to daburucurasu, despite being shown to have enough acceleration to catch up with him
>Kai loses because he spins out on leaves
>twice
>EK9 loses because an animal jumped out, making him open the inside line for dagumi to take
>sweaty S2K man lost because he had to puke
>NB Miata lost because he broke his wing and lost grip
>Dr. Spin lost because his tires lost grip
>Mako loses because she spun out thinking about tofuboy too much
>that S13 guy loses because he couldn't see in the fog
>>that S13 guy loses because he couldn't see in the fog
This guy? He and his S15 lost because he chose not to take the corners at full speed once they hit the fog, because he wanted to leave a margin of error to avoid a crash.
Takumi, of course, went in full speed and Fujiwara zoned ahead on two corners, then disappeared. The rest of it was just this guy desparately trying to catch up.
Single worst race in the entire series.
Did dagumie and keksuke ever race against each other after the first battle they have?
I've only watched up to 4th stage, it'd be nice to see the FD and AE86 go at it again.
Yeah, him. S13 or S15, both are equally extinct.
Come to think of it, the only people to have lost because they were slower were that giraffe kid from the Red Suns and that Tristan-lookalike with the Kei car. Both of them were rain races, too.
No because that would interfere with the plot armor of both of them.
>the only people to have lost because they were slower were that giraffe kid from the Red Suns and that Tristan-lookalike with the Kei car
Don't forget the Evo driver (the one who wasn't MISFIRINGU SHISHTEM dude), Takumi won fair and square against him too.
You mean that guy who looks like Steven Segal? And how did Misufaiaringu shisutemu guy lost the second time?
No, he lost the exact same way Ryousuke did, which is why Takumi was so disappointed with racing on Akina. He chose to take the lead too soon, tried to run away with the lead after doing so, compressed his tires due to pushing it too hard, and understeered due to front tires losing traction during the corner just before the finish line.
>And how did Misufaiaringu shisutemu guy lost the second time?
Strategic error. Holding back on any attempts to pass until late in the race, and not getting the chance to pass he thought he would have.
He explicitly stated during Kai's race that he held back on using the jumping method because he wanted a clean race.
Shit, so Sudo's entire racing tactic is simply having ONE chance to overtake, because he believes he will always pass at that point? It's the same reason why he considered the first race a loss, since he didn't pass him there either. Shit, he actually fucking handicapped himself.
We might be thinking of different races, the guy in the Evo was just not as good and Takumi realized he could out-brake him in every single corner.
Ah, you must be thinking of the two guys in the Evo VI or VII from 4th stage.
Yeah, they were just bad.
>Shit, so Sudo's entire racing tactic is simply having ONE chance to overtake, because he believes he will always pass at that point?
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Stay behind and study your opponent until you reach the safest, most surefire opportunity to pass.