Also the only crossover/suv in the top 100

>porsche skullfucks everyone with the GT2 RS

>look up that car

wtf i love bmw now

Why are people so obsessed with easily falsified, non standardized lap times on a track they'll never visit? Why obsess over lap times to begin with?

Are bmw fangirls really this butthurt?

butthurt because bmw built a faster suv 18 years ago? Lol.

>a faster suv

A faster road illegal show car.

Picb related is even faster.

Jesus man, I like BMW too but give it up.

the x5 is the same as the production x5 but with the S70 engine and stiffer suspension.
in 2017 we have pigfat muscle cars that wipe the floor with 90's supercars yet Alfa could not beat a 2 ton suv from 18 years ago, shame.

>Porsche makes the GT2 RS just for the Burgerking time
>Alfa BTFOs Porsche in other areas
>"Burgerking times aren't our priority"

I bet the X3M and X4M will btfo it on track just like the M3 does with Giulia.

Only alfa fags would be this retarded to compare family crossover lap times
Alfa cant build a sports car so they try to shine in literally useless classes lile saloons and crossovers out of desperation

Alfa wont be allowed to make actual sports cars because that would be infighting with Maserati and Ferrari

>excuses

...

Go compare Ferrari and Porsche times. Ferrari says they don't build them for Ring times, but rather with Fiorano times in mind. I do accept that Porsche is faster than Ferrari in many ways.

>muh soul

youtube.com/watch?v=BW4xJ6SMeH8

That is way better than any comparable shitbox from ANY other manufacturer

this is factually wrong

by better you mean uglier.

Ugly and shit

No I do not

>shit
>870 kg

>implying only weight matters

and that is only on the shitboxest trim

>implying other things matter

lol yeah because everything that comes out of italy is the prettiest, fastest, most reliable and best etc. even though it's utter shit in reality.
typical italikeks

>implying we're all UScucks

>people
italians are not people they're the niggers of europe. still can't trust them the same as us nigs

>naming a car quadrofaglio

gotta make sure ALL 4 seats are for fags, not only the driver

i dont like the italians, but dont forget the greek

t. never driven a Swift Sport

>hey man, it's just a S70 engine bro xddd
>S70 is actually a F1 engine
>that X5 probably needed a rebuild after the laps on the burgerring
BMW fags are THIS desperate.

Anyone can save weight if you have a Dacia tier interior with paper thin door cards.

>870 kg

The weight with all fluids and the driver is 970 kg, the real world figure.

Still impressive.

>saloons
>useless
fast saloons are the GOAT car

you realze the SSS is one of the most praised hatchbacks made? better than, for instance, a diesel fiat

Doesn't matter, it will still break down every other week. :^)

uhh, that seems reasonable for a 70kg driver and a tank of fuel

>S70 is actually a F1 engine
>probably needed rebuilding
Mclaren F1 is a road car you fucking retard.
Road car engine in a 2 ton SUV.
Alfa still could not beat it 18 years later.
KYS alfacucks

>>S70 is actually a F1 engine
Le Mans engine*

>handles well
>BUT is bottom of the barrel dacia tier crap in every other respect
I didn't know this was carthrottle. I'd bet your favorite car is a GT-R.

>still a prototype
>not even road legal
tiptopkek

you mean the suzuki that regulrly scores top in reliability and quality tests. And mr. Fiat should be quet about quality

No wonder it scores top in reliability. Using 20 year tech in the most simplistic and india-tier way.

The Swift isn't even in the same price bracket as the Punto/Fiesta/Clio/Corsa, it's literally in the same bracket as Dacia crap.
Yeah, it handles well, I'll give you that. The last one looked decent, this new one looks like a fucking blob.

>better driving than the Punto/Fiesta/Clio/Corsa pile of misery
>Much cheaper

wins every time. And literally only you would make reliability something bad

Are you seriously talking shit about a cheap, reliable, economical, light and ridiculously fun car?

And btw

>gentle reminder that Suzuki can't even into diesel engines
>they had to ask Fiat to use 1.3 Multijet units
At least they know who to ask for reliable engines :^)

Make it look decent like the old one.

>buying a diesel

The stelvio pre production test mule is not road legal too.
The X5 LM was not even turbocharged and the Stelvio Quadrifoglio still has better power to weight ratio yet it could not keep up with the 2 decade old E53, fail.

>being a torklet

>willingly gassing yourself and your fellow men

>The stelvio pre production test mule is not road legal too.
lol, always the same shit with you faggots

Just like the Giulia
>hurr durr, it was pre-production, doesn't counttttt

It's a production Stelvio with a rollcage. Curious you faggots didn't cry when Porsche used a rollcage on a fucking sedan, uh?

Probably cleaner than your car. And it won't kill as much polar bears.

guys i'm not even sure he is serious anymore

it's still not road legal though you stupid retard.

>smashed previous ring record for production cars
>somehow still gets shit on by Veeky Forums

Sure is sour grapes in here

they can't live with the fact something is faster than their babby

>b-but muh fastest suv

>reee if it uses a rollcage it isn't road legal
I'm keking so hard right now.

>Probably cleaner than your car
>says the guy frequently seen advocating rolling coal

Actually, I don't even roll coal. And even if I did, it won't do as much damage to the atmosphere as a stock petrol car because it will ALWAYS emit less CO2.
And btw, the cleaner a diesel runs the more NOx it produces, so in rolling coal you're actually emitting less nocive gases to the atmosphere. The soot will probably fuck up your lungs if you breathe it but won't fuck the ozone layer.

The record setting X5 LM which Hans Stuck drove was street legal though.
youtu.be/NtuVxi6hMqI

>Actually, I don't even roll coal.
Hence "advocating", dummy.

Quick, someone get a V12 from a TDF and stick it in a Stelvio, then run it on the burgerring.

VM motori multijet engines =/= Volkswagen dieselgate shit.

With that said, ask yourselves why Suzuki and many other brands bought Diesel engines from Fiat rather than Volkswagen.

Suzuki wanted to do that but they BTFO the krauts once they knew about their cheating engines.

>1.6 tdi
>5 gears
>250 nm
>the average 1.6 diesel from the competition (Honda, FCA) has 320+ nm and 6 gears manual + proper rear multi link instead of a cheap torsion beam

he said 309 km/h
that is 190 mph in an X5

The Stelvio still has better power to weight than the X5 LM. Fact.
X5 is the fastest SUV on the Ring, stop with these excuses.

I wonder how fast the stelvio would run on tires with the technology of 18 years ago (or the x5 on today's tires)

reminder that Alfa had specific tyres designed for the Giulia and Stelvio - road legal semi slicks with 60 treadwear rating.
Even supercars and the 911 GT2 RS had way less sticky 180 treadwear tyres

--> no

Modern day M series BMWs are such a fucking joke. Just kill the M series now.

>fake video
>somehow a true laptime

nope, Fiatcucks are delusional

BTFO ALREADY KEK

Does anyone here actually, unironically like modern Alfas? I think they look like shit, and they're likely the same garbage build quality they've always been. Literally nigger-tier Italian cars.

I swear these Alfa threads are just shilling for the new quadra fuck ugglio or whatever piece of trash those dickless spaghetti benders are pushing now.

The time was real but they did not film that lap, they fucked up trying to edit different takes from X laps.

Since the time is in tha chart in the op, then it’s official

>t. Used bmw 3 series driver

>t. Dodge Neon owner

I didn't know Colin chapman's ghost posted on Veeky Forums

>the time was real but they did not film that

boo hoo, sucks for them

>New Swift Sport has a turbo 1.4
>Old Swift Sport had a naturally aspirated 1.6, one of the very few hot hatches that wasn't running a homosexual turbo

Fuck this gay earth.

I still have yet to see anyone in Veeky Forums owns one...

modern M series is better than anything Alfas has ever built, nice try though.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

It is FWD shitbox aka rebadged Fiat FWD shitbox. Disgraceful to Alfa Romeo

How can pastaniggers recover from this?

Makes me wonder what the GT2 RS could do on semi-slicks.

THE CHAD ALFA OWNERS
THE VIRGIN BMW FANGAYS

you will get more pastaniggers/weeaboos/GMcucks on suicide watch.

>suv
who the fuck cares you benchracer scum
you'd buy a fwd minivan over gt86 just because it has faster 0-60 time

This

No Alfa ever built has been faster than the M4 GTS.
italicucks btfo

>Youhou I'm 91/100 with my 50k $ SUV !!!
well played retard

>Porsche makes the GT2 RS just for the Burgerking time
retard...
Porsche makes the GT2 RS just for sold them